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I am an American and I truly hated the French earlier this year. But doesn't a country have a right to disagree with us without us boycotting its goods?

The whole French-hating fad was among the most idiotic things I've ever witnessed. It was supposedly based on the fact that the French disagreed with the Iraq War, but based on all the stupid stereotypes that were thrown in, I think that some people on the American Right just needed something to hate.

Those ungrateful French showed their hatred (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040605/ap_on_re_eu/france_d_day_veterans_5) of America today:

PARIS - French officers pinned the Legion of Honor on the chests of 99 former American soldiers Saturday, thanking them at a pomp-filled military ceremony for helping to free Europe from Nazism 60 years ago.

...

Most of the recipients landed on Normandy's beaches on D-Day — others were pilots who backed the invasion with bombs, medics who treated the wounded, troops who landed elsewhere in France after the initial attack.

The government says it wanted to honor the 99 as representatives of all the Americans who helped liberate France from German occupation.

...

Air France flew the veterans to Paris free and the city's finest hotels are putting them up and throwing big parties. World War II-era American Jeeps sat on the sidewalk outside one hotel while a band played swing music and waiters served free champagne to the fighters and their families.

Yep, they really hate Americans over there.

The french can't defend themselves, I think that's a reason why people hate them.

The french can't defend themselves, I think that's a reason why people hate them.

So a country with nuclear warheads is defenseless?

I am an American and I truly hated the French earlier this year. But doesn't a country have a right to disagree with us without us boycotting its goods?

Our president is from Texas. According to him, whatever he says is right, IS THE LAW. That's the sad sad truth.

It's because the French are smarter than Americans. When Bush said that US intelligence says that Iraq has and is building weapons of mass destruction and that Hussein didn't let the UN inspectors into Iraq, Americans believed him but the French believed the intelligence reports.

In a recent Gallup poll, only 63% of adult Americans knew that the Allies were fighting against Germany during the D-Day invasion. 23% said they didn't know and 14% gave the wrong answer. Only 61% knew that the invasion occured in France. Americans are so stupid

In a recent Gallup poll, only 63% of adult Americans knew that the Allies were fighting against Germany during the D-Day invasion. 23% said they didn't know and 14% gave the wrong answer. Only 61% knew that the invasion occured in France. Americans are so stupid

What amazes me is that so few Americans, in my experience, know that the US was also fighting the French in North Africa during 1942.

Americans are so stupid

And all French people eat fancy cheese. I can generalize as well!

In a recent Gallup poll, only 63% of adult Americans knew that the Allies were fighting against Germany during the D-Day invasion. 23% said they didn't know and 14% gave the wrong answer. Only 61% knew that the invasion occured in France. Americans are so stupid

These statistics are only relevant if you can show that French people are not similarly ignorant. D-Day might not be a fair comparison either, because the French are probably more familiar with a relatively recent war fought on their soil.

The French are that, French. They make good food and wine, but suck at fighting.

The reason we disliked the French is because they said they were going in with us into Iraq and then at the UN said they wouldnt and stabbed us in the back. They also dishonered us at the Normandy beach by disgracing our memorial by removing all American flags and remembrance of that America landed there, and also President George W. Bush was born in Conneticut.

I dunno, I never did the whole "I hate french thing."

Though I did seriously piss off a good number of resturantes by forcably ordering french fries instead of freedom fries.

"I'd like some frenc fries"
**glares, comes back later with fries**
"Here are your freedom fries"
"I'm sorry, you must have the wrong order. I ordered french fries."
"Yes, here are your freedom fries."
"No no, you seem to be not hearing me well. I want french fries. Take those back and bring me my order of FRENCH fries."
"We don't serve french fries here."
"Says you do right here on the menu!"
"We changed it"
"What the hell?! THen why didn't you tell me when I was ordering!"
"Look, here's your order. If that's all, here's the check."
"I'm not paying."
"Sir, you ordered food-"
"Tell me what I ordered."
"Freedom fries."
"Ohhh, so this is all just a big misunderstanding! Ok, sorry, you must've heard me wrong. See, I ordered french fries"


And so on ;)

Americans are so stupid

These statistics are only relevant if you can show that French people are not similarly ignorant.

Note that 'ignorant' does not equal 'stupid'.

Our president is from Texas. According to him, whatever he says is right, IS THE LAW. That's the sad sad truth.

Hey, I resent stereotypes of Texans, me being born in Texas.

Yeah, that sort of doublethink really does get to me.

The French are that, French. They make good food and wine, but suck at fighting.

cough. Napoleon. cough.
cough. Joan of Arc. cough.
cough. the resistance. cough.

Actually Saddam kicked the weapon inspectors out, I wonder why, and then wouldn't let them back in.

Actually Saddam kicked the weapon inspectors out, I wonder why, and then wouldn't let them back in.

And the relevance of this statement is what, exactly?

In a recent Gallup poll, only 63% of adult Americans knew that the Allies were fighting against Germany during the D-Day invasion. 23% said they didn't know and 14% gave the wrong answer. Only 61% knew that the invasion occured in France. Americans are so stupid

What amazes me is that so few Americans, in my experience, know that the US was also fighting the French in North Africa during 1942.

A couple of divisions of Foreign Legion troops do not a traitor nation make. The Foreign Legion fought on both sides of the war, Legion units also fought each other in the later parts of the Egypt campaign. France was a divided nation in WW2; not much else can be said about it.

What amazes me is that so few Americans, in my experience, know that the US was also fighting the French in North Africa during 1942.

A couple of divisions of Foreign Legion troops do not a traitor nation make. The Foreign Legion fought on both sides of the war, Legion units also fought each other in the later parts of the Egypt campaign. France was a divided nation in WW2; not much else can be said about it.

Did I say anything about France being a traitor nation?

The relevance of that posts pertained to a posts a few posts back when the person said " Saddam wouldn't let UN weapon inspectors in, as the person said that Pres. Bush said that, and then the person continued saying that the French read the intelligence reports.

The relevance of that posts pertained to a posts a few posts back when the person said "..."

Ah, I see, I must have skimmed over that post initially, and it was hard to see what it was connected to with the use of the quote facility. 'pologies.

What amazes me is that so few Americans, in my experience, know that the US was also fighting the French in North Africa during 1942.

A couple of divisions of Foreign Legion troops do not a traitor nation make. The Foreign Legion fought on both sides of the war, Legion units also fought each other in the later parts of the Egypt campaign. France was a divided nation in WW2; not much else can be said about it.

Did I say anything about France being a traitor nation?
Southern France, especially those in the Vichy government, were the most vial of traitors. The north was more or less loyal to the end.
French society was, as Medicci said, a divided country, as it was many times in the 20th century. To this day, it amazes me that Cardinal Rieuchelui was able to unite the country.

French society was, as Medicci said, a divided country, as it was many times in the 20th century. To this day, it amazes me that Cardinal Rieuchelui was able to unite the country.

"How can you be expected to govern a country that has 246 kinds of cheese?" - Charles de Gaulle

French society was, as Medicci said, a divided country, as it was many times in the 20th century. To this day, it amazes me that Cardinal Rieuchelui was able to unite the country.

"How can you be expected to govern a country that has 246 kinds of cheese?" - Charles de Gaulle

Of course - he also said:

"You may be sure that the Americans will commit all the stupidities they can think of, plus some that are beyond imagination. "

No wonder he didn't have that many friends in Washington....

French society was, as Medicci said, a divided country, as it was many times in the 20th century. To this day, it amazes me that Cardinal Rieuchelui was able to unite the country.

"How can you be expected to govern a country that has 246 kinds of cheese?" - Charles de Gaulle
Yeah, they still can't agree on a lot of things. Like society. Not everyone in France is a hairy, athiest prostitute. There are holdouts of rural, deeply religious, and agrarian families across France, and they resent their destruction. I guess one could say that the reason France hasn't ruptured as badly is because they have a lot of anti-Americanism. I mean, even if they don't hate the American people, they aren't really fond of Coke or English influences in their language.

i think the statement that france is defenceless is the dumbest thing ever. the whole BS about us saving them in WWII is crap may i remind everyone that we're the fuckers who came into WWII LATE and i mean LATE and expect everyone to bowdown to us. Hell Russia lost more poeple that anyone else in WWII and no one ever talks about their contribution. not to mention the fact we're in eternal debt to france for saving our ass's yes THEY SAVED US. anyone remember that little war were we became a nation. ya that was a win for only cause we had France if it wasnt form them we'd be all citizens of the UK. so any ass hole who calls them freedom fries can go fuck hims cause the isnt anything dumber than Freedom Fries.

so any ass hole who calls them freedom fries can go f--- hims cause the isnt anything dumber than Freedom Fries.

Out of interest: you do know what the French call what you Americans call "French Fries", don't you?

Actually, this is a good reason to hate the French:
http://www.factsofisrael.com/en/files/saddam-and-chirac-75.jpg

http://www.factsofisrael.com/blog/archives/000622.html

so any ass hole who calls them freedom fries can go f--- hims cause the isnt anything dumber than Freedom Fries.

Out of interest: you do know what the French call what you Americans call "French Fries", don't you?

yep "les frites"

Actually Saddam kicked the weapon inspectors out, I wonder why, and then wouldn't let them back in.and people continue to believe Bush's lies, despite all evidence to the contrary. Here's one piece of evidence that Bush's claim that Saddam didn't let the weapon inspectors back in was more of his usual BS

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/11/19/otsc.robertson/index.html

More are easy to find, though it would help to remember just about any news story coming out of Iraq from November 2002 until March 2003. Does the name Hans Blix mean anything to anyone?

I am an American and I truly hated the French earlier this year. But doesn't a country have a right to disagree with us without us boycotting its goods?

I think, that . . . Bush told us to hate them?

Personally, I think Americans hate the french for the samre reason they make fun of Canada, for fun.

I mean sure America and France has had bad relations, but there are no real boycotts, and people are still traveling to Paris on vacation. its nothing that serious. As for the freedom fries, many americans took that as a joke.

As for the freedom fries, many americans took that as a joke.

Indeed:

If "French fries" = "freedom fries", then "French" = "freedom".

What an honour bestowed on the people of France, to be considered synonymous with freedom itself.

I guess I just hate the French because they hate me. It's not exactly a confidence-building moment when someone posts an anti-American article in poor English with a few extra 'e's tacked onto some of the words.

But I have a theory going that the more similar two entities are, the more they hate each other. After all, France and the United States both view themselves as beacons to the world -- the former in culture and sophistication, the latter in liberty and freedom. It also explains why Australians seem to hate the United States. Same founder, obesity problem, bully pulpit...even the beginnings of colonial resentment! Think about it.

Last I checked, which was two months ago when one of my friends left for France, and one month ago, when he came back, the french arn't all like "OMGWTF Americans I h8 u all!!!"



Actually, they were a lot more polite then Americans usually are :p

Beecurse tehy err snooty!

Oh, great another topic full of hate for the French. :roll: The real reason that the USA has something against the French: They need someone to hate, to blame the problems of the world on and take the pressure off them. It's really that simple.

Oh, great another topic full of hate for the French. :roll: The real reason that the USA has something against the French: They need someone to hate, to blame the problems of the world on and take the pressure off them. It's really that simple.

The French are that, French. They make good food and wine, but suck at fighting.

cough. Napoleon. cough.
cough. Joan of Arc. cough.
cough. the resistance. cough.

1. Defeated at Waterloo and exiled til death in 1821.
2. Burnt at the Stake.
3. De Gaulle fled to Britain and returned after the fighting was over.

Yes...indeed.

People are being ignorant about German strategy in WW2. The fact is, is that the Allies (Britain, France, ect...) had every reason to beleive that communist Russia was going to be attacked -not them. This was of course, because of Hitler's great hate for communism, they felt Stalin was first and he would not dare fight a war on two fronts. Of course, they did. After a fast invasion of Belgium, they completely bypassed the Maginot (SP?) Line (heavily fortressed line defending the part of France bordering Germany.) Because the Germans quickly moved to France, they could not muster much resistance before the German "Blitzkreig" (lightning war) broke through enemy lines to Paris. With the head of the goverment cut off, it was difficult to mount a counterattack, and the French were crushed. Under different circumstances, the French may very well have driven the Germans back. Also, whatever happened to the Russians? They were the ones who took Berlin for christ's sake. Not to mention that the huge strategic importance of the Battle Of Stalingrad made it the battle that more or less saved the world.

P.S. I WATCH THE HISTORY CHANNEL TOO MUCH

Not to mention that the huge strategic importance of the Battle Of Stalingrad made it the battle that more or less saved the world.

Stalingrad was indeed a turning point, but I would stress that Hitler still could easily have won WW2 as late as the Battle of the Bulge.

Also...The History Channel is not reliable on many issues. I would do some research before using TV as evidence.

The French are that, French. They make good food and wine, but suck at fighting.

cough. Napoleon. cough.
cough. Joan of Arc. cough.
cough. the resistance. cough.

1. Defeated at Waterloo and exiled til death in 1821.
2. Burnt at the Stake.
3. De Gaulle fled to Britain and returned after the fighting was over.

Yes...indeed.

what a pathetic attempt to discredit those people

1. pretty much conquored europe. emperor of france.
2. fought for and succeeded in having a king crowned. a saint in catholicism. merciful to the english soldiers who wanted to kill her
3. president two times of france and a true rebel to the corrupted french government at the time. you conservatives throw the word "patriot" around alot. this man was a true patriot

Not to mention that the huge strategic importance of the Battle Of Stalingrad made it the battle that more or less saved the world.

Stalingrad was indeed a turning point, but I would stress that Hitler still could easily have won WW2 as late as the Battle of the Bulge.

Also...The History Channel is not reliable on many issues. I would do some research before using TV as evidence.

They won the Battle of the Bulge. It was a tactical disaster for the Allies. It didn't help much.

We're never too pissed to give the statue back...

We're never too pissed to give the statue back...
we could always give France back to the Germans

ain't gonna happen, right?

Not to mention that the huge strategic importance of the Battle Of Stalingrad made it the battle that more or less saved the world.

Stalingrad was indeed a turning point, but I would stress that Hitler still could easily have won WW2 as late as the Battle of the Bulge.

Also...The History Channel is not reliable on many issues. I would do some research before using TV as evidence.

They won the Battle of the Bulge. It was a tactical disaster for the Allies. It didn't help much.

The Germans lost that battle...ran out of oil.

Good god, what are American schools teaching you kids!!!!!

The French are that, French. They make good food and wine, but suck at fighting.

cough. Napoleon. cough.
cough. Joan of Arc. cough.
cough. the resistance. cough.

1. Defeated at Waterloo and exiled til death in 1821.
2. Burnt at the Stake.
3. De Gaulle fled to Britain and returned after the fighting was over.

Yes...indeed.

what a pathetic attempt to discredit those people

1. pretty much conquored europe. emperor of france.
2. fought for and succeeded in having a king crowned. a saint in catholicism. merciful to the english soldiers who wanted to kill her
3. president two times of france and a true rebel to the corrupted french government at the time. you conservatives throw the word "patriot" around alot. this man was a true patriot

1. An Emperor who got his ass whipped by an "inferior" force.
2. No actual proof she existed other than religious say-so. (often debated amongst historians)
3. Well GW Bush is President and liberals across America love making accusations that he dodged service in Vietnam. De Gaulle actually fled France to avoid fighting Hitler. Yet somehow De Gaulle is a hero for fleeing yet Bush is scum? You lot need to get your priorities straight.

Zey storle all ouer horses~!

Not to mention that the huge strategic importance of the Battle Of Stalingrad made it the battle that more or less saved the world.

Stalingrad was indeed a turning point, but I would stress that Hitler still could easily have won WW2 as late as the Battle of the Bulge.

Also...The History Channel is not reliable on many issues. I would do some research before using TV as evidence.

They won the Battle of the Bulge. It was a tactical disaster for the Allies. It didn't help much.

The Germans lost that battle...ran out of oil.

Good god, what are American schools teaching you kids!!!!!

I'm not American. If I was American, I'd say that the Allies won. :lol:

In all seriousness. The Allies took massive casualties, and the Germans blew up every bridge in the area. The result- Germans overall winners despite withdrawal.

Not to mention that the huge strategic importance of the Battle Of Stalingrad made it the battle that more or less saved the world.

Stalingrad was indeed a turning point, but I would stress that Hitler still could easily have won WW2 as late as the Battle of the Bulge.

Also...The History Channel is not reliable on many issues. I would do some research before using TV as evidence.

They won the Battle of the Bulge. It was a tactical disaster for the Allies. It didn't help much.

The Germans lost that battle...ran out of oil.

Good god, what are American schools teaching you kids!!!!!

I'm not American. If I was American, I'd say that the Allies won. :lol:

In all seriousness. The Allies took massive casualties, and the Germans blew up every bridge in the area. The result- Germans overall winners despite withdrawal.

The Germans did not win. They did not achieve their objectives. Had they won, Germany would have ended the war within 6 months...

The aim of that operation was to give German scientists to finish the A-Bomb. This would have been achieved by Christmas 1944 and the V2 could have delivered it to London, Moscow and Paris.

Fortunately, the Germans lost the battle.

We're never too pissed to give the statue back...
we could always give France back to the Germans

ain't gonna happen, right?
Ah, well that--wait. That isn't even related, is it?

We're never too pissed to give the statue back...
we could always give France back to the Germans

ain't gonna happen, right?
Ah, well that--wait. That isn't even related, is it?
was your earlier post related? :wink:

We're never too pissed to give the statue back...
we could always give France back to the Germans

ain't gonna happen, right?
Ah, well that--wait. That isn't even related, is it?
was your earlier post related? :wink:
Why don't you slow yourself down, try to figure out what you're trying to say and get back to me.

Not to mention that the huge strategic importance of the Battle Of Stalingrad made it the battle that more or less saved the world.

Stalingrad was indeed a turning point, but I would stress that Hitler still could easily have won WW2 as late as the Battle of the Bulge.

Also...The History Channel is not reliable on many issues. I would do some research before using TV as evidence.

They won the Battle of the Bulge. It was a tactical disaster for the Allies. It didn't help much.

The Germans lost that battle...ran out of oil.

Good god, what are American schools teaching you kids!!!!!

I'm not American. If I was American, I'd say that the Allies won. :lol:

In all seriousness. The Allies took massive casualties, and the Germans blew up every bridge in the area. The result- Germans overall winners despite withdrawal.

The Germans did not win. They did not achieve their objectives. Had they won, Germany would have ended the war within 6 months...

The aim of that operation was to give German scientists to finish the A-Bomb. This would have been achieved by Christmas 1944 and the V2 could have delivered it to London, Moscow and Paris.

Fortunately, the Germans lost the battle.

Though, the Allied Objective was to have the Rhineland under control by Christmas. They didn't accomplish their objective either.

We're never too pissed to give the statue back...
we could always give France back to the Germans

ain't gonna happen, right?
Ah, well that--wait. That isn't even related, is it?
was your earlier post related? :wink:
Why don't you slow yourself down, try to figure out what you're trying to say and get back to me.
Me? Fats? Unpissible!

*slows down*

I stand by my words

We're never too pissed to give the statue back...
we could always give France back to the Germans

ain't gonna happen, right?
Ah, well that--wait. That isn't even related, is it?
was your earlier post related? :wink:
Why don't you slow yourself down, try to figure out what you're trying to say and get back to me.
Me? Fats? Unpissible!

*slows down*

I stand by my words
So let me try to understand you. I point out that no matter how pissed we get at the French, we never talk about returning the statue they gave us and we use as a symbol-something indicative of the connection France and the US share, and you retort that we don't talk about 'giving the French' (something we don't posess) 'back to the Germans' (who don't want the French) as some form of rebuttle that somehow invalidates....yeah, nope. Still don't see what you're hoping for.

[So let me try to understand you. I point out that no matter how pissed we get at the French, we never talk about returning the statue they gave us and we use as a symbol-something indicative of the connection France and the US share, and you retort that we don't talk about 'giving the French' (something we don't posess) 'back to the Germans' (who don't want the French) as some form of rebuttle that somehow invalidates....yeah, nope. Still don't see what you're hoping for.
You know what I mean when I say that, don't try to kill it. Instead, try to argue it.

[So let me try to understand you. I point out that no matter how pissed we get at the French, we never talk about returning the statue they gave us and we use as a symbol-something indicative of the connection France and the US share, and you retort that we don't talk about 'giving the French' (something we don't posess) 'back to the Germans' (who don't want the French) as some form of rebuttle that somehow invalidates....yeah, nope. Still don't see what you're hoping for.
You know what I mean when I say that, don't try to kill it. Instead, try to argue it.
Try to argue WHAT????? WHAT THE HELL IS YOUR POINT??????????

Anyway, did'nt the French help you lot get independance from the British, The US might not even exist without France!!!

[So let me try to understand you. I point out that no matter how pissed we get at the French, we never talk about returning the statue they gave us and we use as a symbol-something indicative of the connection France and the US share, and you retort that we don't talk about 'giving the French' (something we don't posess) 'back to the Germans' (who don't want the French) as some form of rebuttle that somehow invalidates....yeah, nope. Still don't see what you're hoping for.
You know what I mean when I say that, don't try to kill it. Instead, try to argue it.
Try to argue WHAT????? WHAT THE HELL IS YOUR POINT??????????
That if we try to give the Statue of Liberty back, a symbol of freedom, we might as well give back France to Germany. Since we're throwing away symbols of freedom.

No wait, that wasn't my original point. *tries to think it up while keeping you busy with this*

Hm... I'm mad at the French because they had potential, and chose not to use it. What potential? The potential to be partners in the American domination of the world.

They assisted in our revolution, we inspired theirs. They were dragged into WWI, we bailed them out. They were conquered in WWII, we supported their guerillas and helped free them from German rule. They couldn't stand against revolutionaries in their Vietnamese colony, we sent tons of aid. By all logic, we should be the best of friends, but we're not. Something got jammed up their arses and they don't seem to want to pull it out.

[So let me try to understand you. I point out that no matter how pissed we get at the French, we never talk about returning the statue they gave us and we use as a symbol-something indicative of the connection France and the US share, and you retort that we don't talk about 'giving the French' (something we don't posess) 'back to the Germans' (who don't want the French) as some form of rebuttle that somehow invalidates....yeah, nope. Still don't see what you're hoping for.
You know what I mean when I say that, don't try to kill it. Instead, try to argue it.
Try to argue WHAT????? WHAT THE HELL IS YOUR POINT??????????
That if we try to give the Statue of Liberty back, a symbol of freedom, we might as well give back France to Germany. Since we're throwing away symbols of freedom.

No wait, that wasn't my original point. *tries to think it up while keeping you busy with this*
Nah, lost intrest. Have a lolli-
http://perrin.socsci.unc.edu/baby/aug03/lollipop.jpg

That kid is blonde. He might be a Nazi! NEVER TAKE CANDY FROM A NAZI! :shock: :shock: [/sarcasm]

don't mind if I do....


*sells candy on the blackmarket*

Vous(Americains) Allez bete. Je Vous-Veux a mourir.

Ok, maybe not that extreme. But really, the american hate of france is retarded. They have participated in more of our wars than not, Rev. war, ww1, ww2, korea, Desert Storm, Somalia(I know thats not a war, but they sent guys), compared to 1812, vietnam, and Gulf War Deux.

The French are that, French. They make good food and wine, but suck at fighting.

cough. Napoleon. cough.
cough. Joan of Arc. cough.
cough. the resistance. cough.

1. Defeated at Waterloo and exiled til death in 1821.
2. Burnt at the Stake.
3. De Gaulle fled to Britain and returned after the fighting was over.

Yes...indeed.

what a pathetic attempt to discredit those people

1. pretty much conquored europe. emperor of france.
2. fought for and succeeded in having a king crowned. a saint in catholicism. merciful to the english soldiers who wanted to kill her
3. president two times of france and a true rebel to the corrupted french government at the time. you conservatives throw the word "patriot" around alot. this man was a true patriot

1. An Emperor who got his ass whipped by an "inferior" force.
2. No actual proof she existed other than religious say-so. (often debated amongst historians)
3. Well GW Bush is President and liberals across America love making accusations that he dodged service in Vietnam. De Gaulle actually fled France to avoid fighting Hitler. Yet somehow De Gaulle is a hero for fleeing yet Bush is scum? You lot need to get your priorities straight.

1. Define "inferior" force to me. In Waterloo he takes on the english, 120000 man i believe, with an army of 70000 man. And he was going to win if the prussians didn't show up at the decive moment.

3. I am belgian and our king at that time, leopold III i believe (i'm not that good at kings, they tend to piss me off), refused to flee to england just as any 'good old patriot' has to do according to you. He spent the entire war in a german 'prison' and after the war he got put asside by the belgian people because of it. When you are the leader of a country you have the responsibility to lead and insipire the combatants and therefor you may not fall in enemy hands as this prevents you from leading them and crushes the moral. Bush on the other hand was not the leader of a country back then...

The complete military history of France (http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.html)

And, I personally don't hate any French until they give me a reason, and it's usually due to an accusation of cheating in Medal of Honor. *shrug*

Also, in relation to the Nazi strategy... I think Rommel probably could have won the war almost by himself if he had ALOT more gas for his tanks. Throw some Luftwaffe in for good measure.
*note* I'm not pro-Nazi either.

Lookie! It's a dead horse!

C'mon guys, let's beat the hell out of it!

:roll:

My take on this is, the US and French hate each other because it is often painful to look in the mirror.

And now, I lock this for trolling.

Tactical Grace
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