NationStates Jolt Archive


The real danger of Race Mixing

SS DivisionViking
04-06-2004, 19:56
Its all a jewish plot to create another slave race like the greys!


http://mysterypage.alien.de/pics/grey6.jpg
Skeelzania
04-06-2004, 20:01
Yes, race-mixing is definatly wrong. SS division Viking is a prime example of how superior prue breeds are in intellect.
SS DivisionViking
04-06-2004, 20:05
Yes, race-mixing is definatly wrong. SS division Viking is a prime example of how superior prue breeds are in intellect.

oh the grey hybrids are clever enough, but they are completely subserviant to their jewish masters.
Superpower07
04-06-2004, 20:11
SSDV go back to 1945, you neo-nazi!

Oh and guess what's coming up?
60th anniv. of D-Day! The day you and your fuhrer's evil ambitions were stopped once and for all
Smeagol-Gollum
04-06-2004, 20:32
The very concepts of a "race", "pure race" and "mixed race" have been shown to be mythical by the latest genetic research, particularly studies based on mitochondrial DNA.

Then again, racism has never really been been based on any form of "science", merely hatred, bigotry, scapegoating and exploitation.
Letila
04-06-2004, 20:45
The very concepts of a "race", "pure race" and "mixed race" have been shown to be mythical by the latest genetic research, particularly studies based on mitochondrial DNA.

Then again, racism has never really been been based on any form of "science", merely hatred, bigotry, scapegoating and exploitation.

Exactly!

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Cogitation
04-06-2004, 20:46
SSDV go back to 1945, you neo-nazi!

Oh and guess what's coming up?
60th anniv. of D-Day! The day you and your fuhrer's evil ambitions were stopped once and for all

The picture of a mock-up "Roswell" alien leads me to beleive that SS DivisionViking is joking.

"Think about it for a moment." :P

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
FOunder and Delegate of The Realm of Ambrosia
Bodies Without Organs
04-06-2004, 20:47
The real danger of race mixing?

I actually thought this was going to be in reference to mixing horse racing and dog racing, following this story which appeared today on the BBC:

Dog beats odds to win horse race

A hound has beaten the odds- and a horse - to be named the fastest animal in the racing world.

Eight-year-old greyhound Simply Fabulous beat six-year- old racehorse Tiny Tim over two furlongs, or 400m, at Kempton Park, Middlesex, on Wednesday.

The race came before the main horse and dog racing events at Epsom Park and Wimbledon on Saturday.

Bookies made the horse 8-11 favourite with the dog, which had won 14 races from 35 starts, given evens.

A split-second contest had been predicted and punters were not disappointed with Simply Fabulous winning the race in 23.29 seconds against the horse's 24.63.

The greyhound crossed the finish line seven horse lengths ahead of Tiny Tim - or 15 dog lengths.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3768807.stm
Romanum Imperium
04-06-2004, 20:54
As there's only one human race, mixing it with some other race, say, pinguin or tarantula, would indeed wreak havoc ....
Spoffin
04-06-2004, 20:57
SSDV go back to 1945, you neo-nazi!

Oh and guess what's coming up?
60th anniv. of D-Day! The day you and your fuhrer's evil ambitions were stopped once and for all

The picture of a mock-up "Roswell" alien leads me to beleive that SS DivisionViking is joking.

"Think about it for a moment." :P

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
FOunder and Delegate of The Realm of AmbrosiaI honestly can't believe people are falling for this troll still.
Misalignment
04-06-2004, 20:59
race mixing is pointless... I tried to race my 10-speed against my buddy's camaro and lost every time... proof that cars are superior over bicycles in the race war :lol:
Japaica
04-06-2004, 21:02
Oh. So it's always the jews' fault, huh? :evil:
Soviet Haaregrad
04-06-2004, 21:28
SSDV go back to 1945, you neo-nazi!

Oh and guess what's coming up?
60th anniv. of D-Day! The day you and your fuhrer's evil ambitions were stopped once and for all

Actually that was VE Day.

D-Day was merely the begining of the allies assault to begin the war in Western Europe.
Soviet Haaregrad
04-06-2004, 21:31
Race mixing is wrong!

Stop with the half elves and half orcs, they are a sin.
Catholic Europe
04-06-2004, 22:44
I can't work out whether you're messing around or not. :?
Spoffin
04-06-2004, 22:46
I can't work out whether you're messing around or not. :?The aliens should give you a hint.
Catholic Europe
04-06-2004, 22:48
I can't work out whether you're messing around or not. :?The aliens should give you a hint.

Well, you can never be sure with Nazi's and other racists...they talk so much bollocks when they're being serious you don't know when they're messing around.
Yugolsavia
05-06-2004, 00:52
Its all a jewish plot to create another slave race like the greys!

Congradulations your a f*cking moron.
Kahta
05-06-2004, 01:01
Looks like another racist is about to be DEATed.
Conceptualists
05-06-2004, 01:23
Looks like another racist is about to be DEATed.

Or maybe someone having a laugh.

Like it isn't obvious.
Ashmoria
05-06-2004, 01:24
The picture of a mock-up "Roswell" alien leads me to beleive that SS DivisionViking is joking.

"Think about it for a moment." :P

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
FOunder and Delegate of The Realm of Ambrosia

*thinks about it*
*nods*
Mentholyptus
05-06-2004, 01:33
Congradulations your a f*cking moron.

My thoughts exactly.

Ah, the joys of slaughtering the Nazi trolls. Debating them is like (to paraphrase someone on the Creation/Evolution thread) racing a dying walrus against a bullet train. Barely worth doing.
Mosaic Oa
05-06-2004, 01:36
You do know that most hard science scientists have been tainted by social agendas like social scientists?

You can't trust biologists anymore because they are too chicken to apply the genetic defect or disease tag to homosexuals. Homosexuality if truly caused by genetics would be a genetic defect like Down's Syndrome. A reproductive genetic condition which inhibits the natural reproduction. The West is obsessed with sex.

What else. . . Dogs come in different breeds and types it's proven by geneticists that certain breeds of dogs have genes that make them better at certain tasks than other breeds. This should apply to humans, too. But the social agenda of liberals demands that racial equallity be pushed onto the masses.
Conceptualists
05-06-2004, 01:39
Congradulations your a f*cking moron.

My thoughts exactly.

Ah, the joys of slaughtering the Nazi trolls. Debating them is like (to paraphrase someone on the Creation/Evolution thread) racing a dying walrus against a bullet train. Barely worth doing.

Except that I wouldn't call him a Nazi troll, but a faux-Nazi Troll (ie one who pretends to be a Nazi just to get attention)
Ashmoria
05-06-2004, 01:45
What else. . . Dogs come in different breeds and types it's proven by geneticists that certain breeds of dogs have genes that make them better at certain tasks than other breeds. This should apply to humans, too. But the social agenda of liberals demands that racial equallity be pushed onto the masses.

people arent bred like dogs, so it comes down to genetic diversity one human at time.
Mosaic Oa
05-06-2004, 01:52
Humans has selectively bred themselves. Look at all the diversity.

We have blacks that evolved in africa and are better suited for hotter conditions. We have the nordic type scandanavians who developed in cold climate and are better suited for the cold. We have eskimos who are shorter and stockier than humans every else to lose less body heat and survive in extremely cold climates.

We see this in cougars and other species which have become widespread.

Dogs and Wolves. . . both are genetically identical but we know that Wolves have bigger brains and are over all much smarter than any dog.

Cougars(rainforest variety), all over the Americas. One evolved to survive in North America and it's a lot larger than the one in South America but the South American Panther has spots is physically more suited for the jungle. Each one is superior to the other in that different environments.
Bodies Without Organs
05-06-2004, 01:55
Looks like another racist is about to be DEATed.

Excuse me - SSDV wasn't the one doing the flaming by calling someone a "fecking moron": that was Yugolsavia...
Ashmoria
05-06-2004, 02:01
Humans has selectively bred themselves. Look at all the diversity.

We have blacks that evolved in africa and are better suited for hotter conditions. We have the nordic type scandanavians who developed in cold climate and are better suited for the cold. We have eskimos who are shorter and stockier than humans every else to lose less body heat and survive in extremely cold climates.

We see this in cougars and other species which have become widespread.

Dogs and Wolves. . . both are genetically identical but we know that Wolves have bigger brains and are over all much smarter than any dog.

Cougars(rainforest variety), all over the Americas. One evolved to survive in North America and it's a lot larger than the one in South America but the South American Panther has spots is physically more suited for the jungle. Each one is superior to the other in that different environments.

fine
so whats your point?
Mosaic Oa
05-06-2004, 02:03
If you believe in evolution, Darwin, and science and not religion you must keep an open mind. Old racists might be right. For example, Blacks could be less intelligent than other races. You must realise that nature doesn't create all races, species, or groups in a species equal.

But are secularists and the left wing brave enough to take their embrace of evolution further and say what can not be said?

Science doesn't make everyone equal. Science just proves man is just worth pocket change worth in minerals and water. But why are secularist so cocky? I would think they would be more subdued and modest.
Lawnmowerville
05-06-2004, 02:06
I always thought the biggest danger in race mixing was that the horses would step on the greyhounds...


I'll get me coat...
Letila
05-06-2004, 02:07
He's just angry because he's out of clorox to keep his pointy hat it's whitest.

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Mosaic Oa
05-06-2004, 02:09
I'm sorry but science does not support racial equallity. If you are a true anti-god secularist you can not say all races are equal with a straight face.

For all we know conditions in a certain region of the world created a race among humans that is just plain out better than the others. One more suited for survival, one that was smarter, etc.

You have to keep an open mind.
Ashmoria
05-06-2004, 02:22
i dont know about being an anti god secularist but as an athiest i say that all races are equal.

i dont see that one race being shorter than another on average negates equality. each race such as they exist, in that none exists in any "purity", has a wide diversity within it. "better" and "worse" exist one human at a time.
your science seems a little faulty, i dont seem to recall a science of "better" or "equality". standards of survival for conditions that existed 40,000 years ago would not seem to me to make a race "better" now.

it also seems to me that the "smartest" people on earth today are those societies that are pre-literate because they have to keep all knowlege in their heads or lose it. they know WAY more stuff than we who rely on books know.
Letila
05-06-2004, 02:22
I'm sorry but science does not support racial equallity. If you are a true anti-god secularist you can not say all races are equal with a straight face.

For all we know conditions in a certain region of the world created a race among humans that is just plain out better than the others. One more suited for survival, one that was smarter, etc.

You have to keep an open mind.

Race is a social concept. Someone can be one fourth black and they would still be considered black by most people.

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Moonshine
05-06-2004, 02:27
I'm sorry but science does not support racial equallity. If you are a true anti-god secularist you can not say all races are equal with a straight face.

For all we know conditions in a certain region of the world created a race among humans that is just plain out better than the others. One more suited for survival, one that was smarter, etc.

You have to keep an open mind.

I think it would be truly excellent if suncream manufacturers were to factor their product and test it "for dark/tan" or "for light/pale" skin, etc.

I also think there is only one human race.

I'm rather taking a shine to SS DivisionViking.

You, I wouldn't piss on if you were on fire.

Have a lovely day.
Mattopolia
05-06-2004, 02:39
Being multi-racial myself, this has been a very interesting conversation.
I would be willing to say that different people are suited better for doing different things (duh). But these tendencies do not flow along racial lines.
For instance:

I live in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan (extremely cold environment).
Although I am partially African American, I can put up with -20 degrees F
temperatures better than most people.

My point: different people are better suited for doing different things, some are better at concrete thought
some are better at abstract thought

some are suited for colder environments :lol:
some are suited for warmer environments

But this does not flow along racial lines. It all depends on the circimstances of individuals. You could say that black people are suited for warmer environments because most blacks live in comparitively warmer areas (explaining why they are better suited). But, using myself as an example, who was born and raised in the Canadian Shield, am suited much better for a colder climate
Bodies Without Organs
05-06-2004, 02:42
I'm sorry but science does not support racial equallity. If you are a true anti-god secularist you can not say all races are equal with a straight face.

Mosaic, you seem to be claiming that only "anti-God secularists" can be true scientists, but science can provide no evidence either for or against the existence of God. From whence does this antitheist position come?
Mattopolia
05-06-2004, 02:53
GOD BLESS bodies without organs!

(Oh my goodness. I said (gulp), G-O-D!)
Moonshine
05-06-2004, 02:55
I live in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan (extremely cold environment).
Although I am partially African American, I can put up with -20 degrees F
temperatures better than most people.


Well, temperature and radiation are two different things. The ability to take the heat is not the same as the ability to not get skin cancer. Personally I don't know for a fact whether someone with African heritage has a stronger resistance to the negative effects of the sun's radiation or not. All I do know is that darker-skinned people (or rather, their ancestors) generally come from sunnier climates than lighter-skinned people.

Hence, why I think it would be excellent if suncream manufacturers were to test this. The end result, if my hunch is right, would surely be better for everyone? Not all hair is the same, so not everyone buys the same shampoo. Not all skin is the same...
Bodies Without Organs
05-06-2004, 02:57
GOD BLESS bodies without organs!

Thank you. Good to put my philosophy MA to use every couple of years.
Mosaic Oa
05-06-2004, 03:02
I saying that most god hating secularists, atheists, agnostics and overall left wingers are hypocrites!!!

They use science as a reason to ignore religion, reject morallity, and poke holes in religion but they won't embrace it fully!!! Most atheists should be racists, should be ultimately logical. They shouldn't cop out and look at humanism.

Most left wingers use science but don't understand or care for it. Just see it as a tool for using against the enemy and getting people on their side to fight for the widespread embrace of more illogical behavior.

Science can't prove people are equal. Science points to homosexuality being wrong, etc.

True ATHEIST, TRUE SCIENCE BASED SECULARIST WOULD HAVE THESE BELIEFS!!!

1) Should be open to racial superiority and racial inferiority.
2) Should support slavery. It's a Darwinian practice. The strong using the weak. The strong preying on the weak.
3) Should believe homosexuality is wrong. Should consider homosexuality a disease because it's not efficient. Sexual behavior defect. Could threaten the species. . .
4) Should support cloning.
5) Should support absolute monogamy. Maximizes the genetic combinations in nature. Increases chances of survival. Nature will choose which genes survive by killing them off. Polygamy is not as good.
6) Can not justify anything with love because love is only a chemical reaction in the brain, a evolutionary trait meants to give us social bonds when we didn't know much about science. It's an illogical justification for anything. Feelings are opiates to the masses like religion is.

I can go on and on.
New Kingman
05-06-2004, 03:02
whats with the picture of michael jackson?
Ashmoria
05-06-2004, 03:07
interesting but WRONG

if you look at the athiest rule book you'll find none of those requirements. maybe you should lobby for it at the next meeting, see how it goes over.
Bodies Without Organs
05-06-2004, 03:07
True ATHEIST, TRUE SCIENCE BASED SECULARIST WOULD HAVE THESE BELIEFS!!!

You seem to be labouring under the misapprehension that science can tell us something about ethical values. It can tell us about what is, not what should be.
Mattopolia
05-06-2004, 03:08
My point was that abilities (particulary intelligence) do not flow (perfectly) along racial lines.

note: Intelligence can not be clearly defined. There are multiple types of intelligences. Even comparing different species. Humans may seem smarter, but do you see millions of horses or bunnies charging at each other, fighting to the death!? No, you don't, which is to their advantage. However humans have been killing each other in mass numbers through recorded history, which is most definately not to our advantage. So that gives horses and bunnies some ground to make a statement about superiority.

note (again): I'm not saying that bunnies and/or horses are superior species.
Ashmoria
05-06-2004, 03:10
i like your point, mattopolia
Mosaic Oa
05-06-2004, 03:14
People use science to justify certain social agendas.

If you are an atheist, ethics get in the way of efficiency. IF YOU EMBRACE Atheism, YOU MUST EMBRACE LOGIC and Science fully!!!

If you embrace atheism which uses the shortcomings of science to justify a disbelief if god and the paranormal then you must use science and logic in all your decisions.

You have to be more hardcore than a communist or you are a hypocrite.

Science and Logic supercede ETHICS. Ethics can not be validated by science, they are simply made up rules made to keep people from getting angry.

If science can't prove god exists and can't prove ethics are the correct rules to follow then you shouldn't believe in ethics. Ethics are unquantifiable.
Ashmoria
05-06-2004, 03:15
wow im glad i dont have to go by your rules
Moonshine
05-06-2004, 03:17
My point was that abilities (particulary intelligence) do not flow (perfectly) along racial lines.

note: Intelligence can not be clearly defined. There are multiple types of intelligences. Even comparing different species. Humans may seem smarter, but do you see millions of horses or bunnies charging at each other, fighting to the death!? No, you don't, which is to their advantage. However humans have been killing each other in mass numbers through recorded history, which is most definately not to our advantage. So that gives horses and bunnies some ground to make a statement about superiority.

note (again): I'm not saying that bunnies and/or horses are superior species.

:lol:

I like you already.
Bodies Without Organs
05-06-2004, 03:17
Ethics can not be validated by science, they are simply made up rules made to keep people from getting angry.

later edited to say -

Ethics are unquantifiable.

True ATHEIST, TRUE SCIENCE BASED SECULARIST WOULD HAVE THESE BELIEFS!!!

...list of ethical judgements...

Speaks for itself, no?

Goodnight, troll. Don't bang your head on the underside of the bridge when you leave.
Moonshine
05-06-2004, 03:18
People use science to justify certain social agendas.


Yes, some people do. Don't they?
Mosaic Oa
05-06-2004, 03:19
I'm just saying that if you are a humanist, atheist, secularist odds are you are just as stupid and illogical as the bible thumping idiot you trash.

If you are an atheist who support the gay agenda and racial equallity you are just as dumb as a Bible thumping redneck who sticks god up your ass.
Smeagol-Gollum
05-06-2004, 03:26
I can go on and on.

Is the only accurate statement you made in a lengthy post.
Mattopolia
05-06-2004, 03:43
About the comments that were made on love and homosexuality, and all the statements that may apply.

Let's try and think logically now. Why do we continue to live? Why not just kill yourself? Besides religious bindings, I think we can say happiness. If everyone thought like that then the world would be completely chaotic, there would be a complete state of war, oh, and wouldn't it be lovely to be a slave. Let's use America as an example. America, (I think we can generally agree on this) is one of history's greatest cultures(I'm not saying it is/was without it's flaws). America was not brought up on these principles minus slavery, which is another story. If there had never been slavery in the United States, there would not have been the economic stress that tore the country in two and killed 600,000 people in the Civil War. Today, America (once again, not without it's flaws) is generally prosperous and has many social freedoms and civil rights.

Let's look at another culture with different ideologies; Nazi Germany. As for the philosophy of racism, adn the strong preying ont he weak; well, we can see were that got them. Humankind lost over 50,000,000 people in World War Two. Millions of civilions, (including people in Nazi Germany who were consistantly bombed). They were crushed in the end. We can see were that got us.

Were would you rather live? Take you pick:

America: Enjoying personal freedoms (and a Big Mac)

or

Nazi Germany: Enjoying bombs falling on your head, being shipped out to a pointless war, and oh... I hope your not Jewish.
Ashmoria
05-06-2004, 03:46
*thinking*
ill go with the big mac
Mattopolia
05-06-2004, 03:55
How old are you, Ashmoria?
Ashmoria
05-06-2004, 04:11
ill be 47 in a couple weeks
ok ill forgo the big mac, its bad for my ateries
Aryan Supremacy
05-06-2004, 04:36
My point was that abilities (particulary intelligence) do not flow (perfectly) along racial lines.

note: Intelligence can not be clearly defined. There are multiple types of intelligences. Even comparing different species. Humans may seem smarter, but do you see millions of horses or bunnies charging at each other, fighting to the death!? No, you don't, which is to their advantage. However humans have been killing each other in mass numbers through recorded history, which is most definately not to our advantage. So that gives horses and bunnies some ground to make a statement about superiority.

note (again): I'm not saying that bunnies and/or horses are superior species.

Ummm, yes you de see horses and bunnies fighting to the death. Its not to their advantage, they have no advantage since humans hold their destiny in our hands. Just like white people hold the future of blacks in our hands.
Mattopolia
05-06-2004, 04:44
East Asians produce vast amounts of products that white nations depend on. The Middle East has their oil. Latin Americans are moving into the U.S. by the millions. I don't think white people hold their own future in their own hands.

(note: Humanity is interdpendent.)
BackwoodsSquatches
05-06-2004, 05:09
As there's only one human race, mixing it with some other race, say, pinguin or tarantula, would indeed wreak havoc ....

What?? didnt you ever see Spiderman??
Mattopolia
05-06-2004, 05:14
"Penguin man, pengiun man, can do whatever a penguin can!"
imported_Berserker
05-06-2004, 06:59
SSDV go back to 1945, you neo-nazi!

Oh and guess what's coming up?
60th anniv. of D-Day! The day you and your fuhrer's evil ambitions were stopped once and for all

The picture of a mock-up "Roswell" alien leads me to beleive that SS DivisionViking is joking.

"Think about it for a moment." :P

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
FOunder and Delegate of The Realm of Ambrosia
I seem to remember something about SS simply rping a Nazi or some such.
imported_Berserker
05-06-2004, 07:15
imported_Berserker
05-06-2004, 07:19
I live in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan (extremely cold environment).
Although I am partially African American, I can put up with -20 degrees F
temperatures better than most people.


Well, temperature and radiation are two different things. The ability to take the heat is not the same as the ability to not get skin cancer. Personally I don't know for a fact whether someone with African heritage has a stronger resistance to the negative effects of the sun's radiation or not. All I do know is that darker-skinned people (or rather, their ancestors) generally come from sunnier climates than lighter-skinned people.

Hence, why I think it would be excellent if suncream manufacturers were to test this. The end result, if my hunch is right, would surely be better for everyone? Not all hair is the same, so not everyone buys the same shampoo. Not all skin is the same...
The color of the skin rises from a higher concentration of melanin (sp?), an evolutionary reaction to protect from the intense sunlight (not heat, that's what sweat glands are for, as dark colors absorb heat) at lower latitudes.
As man moved farther north, into the European continent, the darkness of the skin became unneeded and possibly harmful, as certain vitamins (D I believe) were not formed due to the reduced sunlight being blocked.
After a while of natural selection (skin no longer needing to be as dark in order to protect from the sun) the skin tone lightened.

Theortically this process would continue today, however society and "civilization" (humans run less and less off of base instinct), are now the dominant factors in mate selection, so it is impossible to predict just what path evolution will follow next.