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I was thinking about it today, and I'd like to here your thoughts on these real-life relatsionhips between people I know. Obviosuly names are ommited.

14yo & 16yo

15yo & 17yo

14yo & 21yo

17yo & 24yo

17yo & 34yo

I was thinking about it today, and I'd like to here your thoughts on these real-life relatsionhips between people I know. Obviosuly names are ommited.

14yo & 16yo
About sex or involving losers.

15yo & 17yo
See above.

14yo & 21yo
Involving losers or a pervert.

17yo & 24yo
Involving losers or about sex.

17yo & 34yo
Just perverted.

I was thinking about it today, and I'd like to here your thoughts on these real-life relatsionhips between people I know. Obviosuly names are ommited.

14yo & 16yo

15yo & 17yo

14yo & 21yo

17yo & 24yo

17yo & 34yo

Anyone over the age of 18 is subject to the age of consent laws in your area. Me I don't care.

To young to do what?

The formula is "Half your age plus seven".

16/2 = 8 8+7 = 15
17/2 = 8.5 8.5+7 = 15.5
21/2 = 10.5 10.5+7 = 17.5
24/2 = 12 12+7 = 19
34/2 = 17 17+7 = 24

So...
#1 is fine
#2 depends
#3 is pedophilia
#4 is bad
#5 is very bad.

In Canada I believe 14 is the age of consent so all of these are legal, if not moral.

I was thinking about it today, and I'd like to here your thoughts on these real-life relatsionhips between people I know. Obviosuly names are ommited.

14yo & 16yo
About sex or involving losers.

15yo & 17yo
See above.

14yo & 21yo
Involving losers or a pervert.

17yo & 24yo
Involving losers or about sex.

17yo & 34yo
Just perverted.[/quote]

14yo & 16yo
No sex

15yo & 17yo
Sex

14yo & 21yo
No sex

17yo & 24yo
Lots and lots of sex

17yo & 34yo
No idea

The formula is "Half your age plus seven".

16/2 = 8 8+7 = 15
17/2 = 8.5 8.5+7 = 15.5
21/2 = 10.5 10.5+7 = 17.5
24/2 = 12 12+7 = 19
34/2 = 17 17+7 = 24

So...
#1 is fine
#2 depends
#3 is pedophilia
#4 is bad
#5 is very bad.

In Canada I believe 14 is the age of consent so all of these are legal, if not moral.Intresting formula...

Well I'm 16 at the moment and going out with some one who is 22 and I have never found it to be a problem, I think it just depends on the people but I don't really like the idea of 14yo & 21yo but its not too bad. I think 17yo & 34yo is much too big a gap.

Well I'm 16 at the moment and going out with some one who is 22 and I have never found it to be a problem, I think it just depends on the people but I don't really like the idea of 14yo & 21yo but its not too bad. I think 17yo & 34yo is much too big a gap.Doesn't that make your boyfriend a little sad though? I mean goign for high school girls is a tad lame.

14yo & 21yo


this is the only one that particularly worries me. though it depends a lot on what the people are like. some girls are grown up young.

incidentally, did anyone read 'love in the time of cholera', where the age gap was something like 14yo and 76yo?

14yo & 21yo


this is the only one that particularly worries me. though it depends a lot on what the people are like. some girls are grown up young.

incidentally, did anyone read 'love in the time of cholera', where the age gap was something like 14yo and 76yo?Or like Emperor Claudius and his 16 year old neice getting married.

it also depends on their nationality

i live in tucson and we have a high hispanic population and the women tend to date guys who are 5-7 years older than them. And in that culture it is perfectly fine. So i have no problem

I was also assuming in Rotovia's examples that the male was the older partner.
But perhaps that's not the case?
Do any of you feel differently when the woman is older? :wink:

Is 18 and 36 okay? :twisted:

Is 18 and 36 okay? :twisted:

If it's OK with them.

I was considering a 18 & 24 relationship... me being the 18 and he being the 24.

I think the only people the age difference should really matter to is the people involved. Nobody else's business but theirs really.

Is 18 and 36 okay? :twisted:

If it's OK with them.

Oh, at what age is it Ok if it's not Ok with them? :twisted:

Is 18 and 36 okay? :twisted:

If it's OK with them.

Oh, at what age is it Ok if it's not Ok with them? :twisted:

Well, it's usually illegal if they are either,
a) dead or
b) just born.

Otherwise go for your life...

Lets reverse the roles here... everyone assumes that the younger person in these relationships is female.

What if the younger person was male.

Would it still be perverted etc?

Lets reverse the roles here... everyone assumes that the younger person in these relationships is female.

What if the younger person was male.

Would it still be perverted etc?

Cabana boy...

Lets reverse the roles here... everyone assumes that the younger person in these relationships is female.

What if the younger person was male.

Would it still be perverted etc?

Cabana boy...

...or Cradle Snatcher... depends how young...

I was considering a 18 & 24 relationship... me being the 18 and he being the 24.

I think the only people the age difference should really matter to is the people involved. Nobody else's business but theirs really.I don't think so, we have a duty to protect the young and impressionable from potentional sexual predators. That comes before the rights of a minor to enter a relationship.

I was considering a 18 & 24 relationship... me being the 18 and he being the 24.

I think the only people the age difference should really matter to is the people involved. Nobody else's business but theirs really.I don't think so, we have a duty to protect the young and impressionable from potentional sexual predators. That comes before the rights of a minor to enter a relationship.

Well understandibly it will be within a resonable limit, say after the legal age. If they're over it, then who cares?

In this country 16 is the age of consent, but sadly a proposed law was just culled which would make it legal for people between 12 and 16 to have consentual sex with those within 2 years of them. Too many people in this country didn't properly read about the law and thought it was just making the age of consent 12. The idea was that if a 14 and 15 year old have sex, perhaps sending them to jail ISN'T the best way of dealing with it. Dumbasses.

I have many relatives in the above age groups and from my own experience: it depends on the maturity of the individual. However, from what I see, more bad decisions are made if there is more than 12 months difference up to age 18. Between 18 and 25, three year differences are the maximum before there are major issues. After that, you are usually mature enough to handle nearly all situations.

I know of several relationships which to me are slightly dodgy

15-16 &about 30

15%25

there was also this 15 year old that slept with a 42 year old

What about 15 and 12. In this case the girl I know is the 12 year old.

Five years above whatever NAMBLA says.

Then you're okay.

14yo & 16yo - Whatever

15yo & 17yo - Whatever

14yo & 21yo - Awoooga! Perv Alert! Awoooga! Perv Alert! Awoooga! Perv Alert!

17yo & 24yo - Whatever

17yo & 34yo - A bit weird

14 and 21. I mean if they really love eachother fine, but that is strange.

Which is the guy and which is the girl?

I think 17&34 is a lot less weird than the 14 and 21. Ones between 2 adults, the others a kid and an adult.

Alright, everybody, instead of making generalizations about "oh it must be about the sex" or "oh they are losers" blahblahblah, did you ever consider maybe they actually love each other?

Don't go on about how you think love doesn't exist or whatever, other people do, I don't know about these relationships themselves, and I find it somewhat unlikely that people of that huge an age difference (for some of them) could love each other, but it's possible.

Any relationship is okay if the two truly love each other and understand the relationship....

Honestly, in my opinion, a 14 year old with anone older than 16 is super creepy, a 14 year old is still a child.

Once you get older though, it's sketchy, i go to university, and i know a lot of guys that are 25-26, and i dont think it would be that weird. It depends if they are your peers or not, i think. Fine if they are my fellow student, creepy if they were my boss or something.

I met a guy that was 28 the other night...i'm 19... :?

I don't think I've every gone after a girl who wasn't between a year or so younger or about 2 years or so older.

As for other people...eh, whatever floats yer boat.

Oh, and on the whole "sex below 18" dealey- in the US, 18 is when you can technically support yourself. Now, supporting yourself and a kid, I'm not sure, but it makes SOME semblance of sense, at least

I've been with someone twelve years my elder before. It was good.

*shares*

I went out with a lassie who was 15 when I was 19.
We broke up when I was 20 and she was 16.

From past experience I would say that chicks may look grown up when they're 15 but they're just as emotionally retarded as guys that age. They're just better at hiding it. For some reason women think that they're more mature than men, and that they become more mature more quickly. I don't buy it. Certainly, they physically develop more quickly, but the only thing that makes you mature is actual life experience. So I reckon going out with anyone under 20 when you aren't is a bad idea.

Incidentally, I never had sex with said teenage chicky and I dumped her because she was thick as shit. She cheated on me all the time and (with hindsight) clearly had no understanding of what a meaningful relationship actually was. At the time, I was so glad to have a girlfriend that I rather stupidly ignored the glaringly obvious for a looong time.

14yo & 21yo - Awoooga! Perv Alert! Awoooga! Perv Alert! Awoooga! Perv Alert!
lol, nicely done Grace.

Doesn't that make your boyfriend a little sad though? I mean goign for high school girls is a tad lame.
sorry about the slow reply. I guess I never thought of it that way. I dunno about the high school thing cause I'm in the UK. But we were friends first and then we just fell for each other so it never bothered me much at all.

14yo & 21yo - Awoooga! Perv Alert! Awoooga! Perv Alert! Awoooga! Perv Alert!
lol, nicely done Grace.
Yes very,...(wait for it)....Graceful

14yo & 21yo - Awoooga! Perv Alert! Awoooga! Perv Alert! Awoooga! Perv Alert!
lol, nicely done Grace.
Yes very,...(wait for it)....Gracefullol :lol:

Age is just a number...and a legal status.

This is based off of the legal standards in Oklahoma

14yo & 16yo legal (IMO too young for sexual relations)

15yo & 17yo legal

14yo & 21yo Can you say statutory rape?

17yo & 24yo legal (16 is age of consent in Oklahoma)

17yo & 34yo legal (but seriously wrong)

i find all of these relationships ok except the 14 yr old and the 21 yr old. thas just no.

Monkeypimp: Are you in New Zealand?

Yes, I saw that law.
The thing with most of these laws, though, is that a) you have to write
them so that they can be understood by the lowest common
denominator (i.e. if they see "16" and "12" next to each other,
they'll cry out the word "Paedophile!"), and they won't read the
fine print, so to speak, in that it was originally intended to make it
so that females can be charged with like crimes.

For example, if a 16year old boy does it with a 14 year old girl, it's
statutory rape, regardless of willful intent. If a 16 year old girl
does it with a 14 year old boy, on the other hand, no-one has any
qualms with that (except maybe the parents).
Yet this bill would have changed that, so that the same rules apply to
both.
If anything, it seems to be more of an intended sexual equality
law. But if I've missed something, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Personally I'm against the juniors getting in to that, because I have
minors in my family - and if anyone does that to them, they answer to
me, and my family - and in general I think it's bad for society in
general, not to mention immoral. I'm not Christian or anything like
that, but without education on the subject, it's like handing a kid a
loaded gun. STDs, unwanted pregnancies, etc.
Then again, the same could be said for people of any age.

*sighs* noone has yet touched on the older woman younger male thing yet so I am going to... I have had relationships with men younger then me.. once or twice nearly a ten year difference.. Hell my darling now is younger then me... but there can be advantages for the older female younger male pairing.. depending on the age of the participants of course. and maturity level is usually a factor as well. Some young guys actually have it together enough that it interests an older woman, and older women with their life experience intrigues younger men.. *shrugs* as long as both parties are content and are not violating any laws..lol why not?

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i think turning around the genders helps to focus on the age thing better.
a 21 year old woman with a 14 year old boy is creepy. so is a 21 year old man with a 14 year old girl no matter how "mature" the 14 year old is.
a 34 year old woman with a 17 year old boy is creepy. so is the other way around
once you get to an adult age, its just perhaps fraught with danger. a 34 year old woman with an 18 year old man has many things to work out, but its none of our business how adults want to live their lives.

i have a friend who routinely dates men 20 years younger than she is (she is in her 40s). they dont seem to last a long time, but she sure seems to enjoy them while they last.

All of them are fine to me except the 14 and 21 year old. There are exceptions though, I mean if they really love each other, or the younger one is really (emotionally)mature...

It would be worse for a 21 year old woman to be going for a 14 year old boy, he'd be less likely to be physically an adult then the girl would be.

what the hell ever happened to abstinence?

There was a 29 year old at my office that bragged about having sexual relations with a 15 year old. I called the cops and fired him.

I agree with the 17 + 24 one.... I was 16 when I was with a 23 year old. That was erm..... fruitful. I've decided to stick closer to my age. I had a 9 month relationship with a 20 year old at the age of 17 (but he acts more immature than me), and now I'm with a 19 year old. I definitely think it's better to stay nearer your own age (even though I do like older guys).

14yo & 16yo= Mmm... Technically nothing wrong with it, but The 16 year old would have to be a loser and just looking for sex. Most 16 year olds wouldn't chase 14 year olds for a serious relationship. Then again, it could happen.

15yo & 17yo= Maybe a little bit of the above, but its less of an issue. Were I either one, it wouldnt worry me at those ages.

14yo & 21yo= NO. Thats just sick.

17yo & 24yo= Personally, I've seen this happen, a 17 year old girl I knew dated a 24 year old, and guess what? He dipped in and dumped her. It should be legal, but it never works out well.

17yo & 34yo= Can't speak from experience. I think though, that the 34 year old would be a lot more mature than a 24 year old and it would be more of a serious relationship. If a bit weird.

I knew somebody who was 60 and going out with a 27 year old woman :shock:

I was in a 16yo - 19yo relationship, but it ended very quickly cause the difference did worry me alittle, maybe in an another year or so which makes it

18 - 21 what do people think about that?

minor and adult is definatly wrong, and anything over 7 years difference is just about too much. unless its like over 30 or something. then its not so bad.

what the hell ever happened to abstinence?

It's always been a myth. :wink:

Dan Savage's latest column has some insight. I like his maxim about campsites. You can read his column weekly at The Onion AV Club (http://www.theonionavclub.com/).

I just started a new McJob due to the pressures of bills and our godawful job market. Mainly, I work with a bunch of 16- and 17-year-old girls. Myself, I'm a 29-year-old male. I recently found myself looking up "age of consent" laws on www.ageofconsent.com, and it says that the age of consent in my particular state is 16. Now, if the farfetched fantasy of many straight males were to occur, and one of the girls said "Take me home, I'd like to fuck you," something tells me I'd still get in a heap of legal trouble. What is the deal with teenage girls and the law?
Dirty Old Man

If your McJob isn't in a McSchool—if you're not a teacher or a coach—the law in your state is clear: You can fuck your young coworkers senseless, so long as the sex is consensual. But remember the first rule of sleeping with legal teenagers: Younger sex partners are like campsites, DOM. You should always leave 'em in better condition than you found 'em. Don't knock 'em up, don't give 'em STDs, and don't mislead 'em about the long-term possibilities (which are nil). Make sure they're having fun, be open and accommodating, and combat their youthful ignorance about sex by answering their questions.

14yo & 16yo

15yo & 17yo

14yo & 21yo

17yo & 24yo

17yo & 34yo

1. thats fine
2. thats fine too
3. eeek... thats a little weird... i go for older guys, but thats a bit crazy
4. the 17 year old will be 18 soon, almost a legal adult. not so bad. the age gap isnt too crazy.
5. get the 34 year old the hell away from that baby.

18 - 21 what do people think about that?
Sounds pretty normal.

That means me and my girlfriend (she is 1 year, 4 months, and 3 days older than me) are good to go. ;-)

Oh, and I am 18 in 6 days!

-eaten by the double post monster-

18 - 21 what do people think about that?
Sounds pretty normal.

cheers, how about the 16 - 19

was I right to end it?

18 - 21 what do people think about that?
Sounds pretty normal.
cheers, how about the 16 - 19

was I right to end it?
[Shrugs] It's OK for some, obviously not everyone. I guess at the end of the day, you have to look out for yourself.

Your friends that are dating the adults...no matter if they are female or male...just make sure the perv dating them dosen't hurt them

18 - 21 what do people think about that?
Sounds pretty normal.
cheers, how about the 16 - 19

was I right to end it?
[Shrugs] It's OK for some, obviously not everyone. I guess at the end of the day, you have to look out for yourself.

hmm she was just alittle to nieve and such
and I got sick of doing her biology homework

The formula is "Half your age plus seven".

16/2 = 8 8+7 = 15
17/2 = 8.5 8.5+7 = 15.5
21/2 = 10.5 10.5+7 = 17.5
24/2 = 12 12+7 = 19
34/2 = 17 17+7 = 24

So...
#1 is fine
#2 depends
#3 is pedophilia
#4 is bad
#5 is very bad.

In Canada I believe 14 is the age of consent so all of these are legal, if not moral.I'm 19, going out with a 17 year old... barely works, but it does :)

I'm 19, going out with a 17 year old... barely works, but it does :)

I am doing the same thing, except I (the male) am 17 and she is 19. And we are doing well. It has been rough lately, but we are still doing well. :D

I'm 19, going out with a 17 year old... barely works, but it does :)

I am doing the same thing, except I (the male) am 17 and she is 19. And we are doing well. It has been rough lately, but we are still doing well. :Dwhoa... you realize that doesn't go the same way in the other direction, right? If you're a guy, and you're with a 30 year old woman... as long as she's hot, no one's going to do anything but cheer you on :P

hmm my mate is 21 who is with a 37 year old woman who has a 15 year old daughter

hmm my mate is 21 who is with a 37 year old woman who has a 15 year old daughter...I don't even want to picture that... so many things wrong with that...

The major problem with a relationship outside your own age group is that you have so little in common. Unless at least one of you is pretty backward or the other pretty advanced you should be at different stages in your life and have had different life experiences. The first two examples are pretty close and although odd (2 years makes a lot of differance in maturity in the teens) are not exceptionally so. The differnace between the life of a 21 y.o. and a 14 y.o. is enough that this is certainly worth a looksee, most 14 y.o. people should be pretty much still dependant for many things on thier parents and just be begining to establish and independant identity while a 21y.o. should have a well established identitiy and not be dependant on their parents (and more, but this gives a idea of why this sort of thing is a problem, but individual cases may vary). The 24 y.o. 17 y.o. is less of a problem, they both should have somewhat well defined individual identities and are at a similar life stage, just establishing their own physical independance from their parents. Unless something is seriously off kilter with the 34 y.o. or the 17y.o. this is a strange combination - they should be appraoching life from entirely different viewpoints, they probably don't share musical tastes and just about everything from the culture of that produced the 34 y.o. is beyond the 17 y.o., what can they talk about?

a 34 year old woman with a 17 year old boy is creepy. so is the other way around


well i see what you mean, but a girl of 17 IS generally more mature than a boy of the same age.

having said that, i do find that particular age gap a strain on my comfort zone (but not as much as the 14-21 :shock: ).

It seems from what you're all saying that pretty much once the younger partner is over 18 it ceases to matter so much. granted a lot of folk still have development to do after that age but it's still a bit of a watershed.

well i see what you mean, but a girl of 17 IS generally more mature than a boy of the same age.
Physically, probably, mentally/emotionally, questionable. Someone said earlier that girls at that age are simply better at hiding their immaturity than boys. Figures, females tend to be more sensitive to people's perceptions and expectations . . . almost . . . chamelionic. :shock:

Physically, probably, mentally/emotionally, questionable. Someone said earlier that girls at that age are simply better at hiding their immaturity than boys. Figures, females tend to be more sensitive to people's perceptions and expectations . . . almost . . . chamelionic. :shock:

yeah. if they ARE more mature, it's not by much. i remember at school quite a few 17 year old girls attracting guys of 19/20 but i guess when guys are that age they might easily by fooled by the girls' appearance of maturity?

lol... 'chamelionic'? interesting insight into your perception of women there, TG :wink:

hmm she was just alittle to nieve and such
and I got sick of doing her biology homework

You silly boy. Come do my maths assignments!

*sighs* noone has yet touched on the older woman younger male thing yet so I am going to... I have had relationships with men younger then me.. once or twice nearly a ten year difference.. Hell my darling now is younger then me... but there can be advantages for the older female younger male pairing.. depending on the age of the participants of course. and maturity level is usually a factor as well. Some young guys actually have it together enough that it interests an older woman, and older women with their life experience intrigues younger men.. *shrugs* as long as both parties are content and are not violating any laws..lol why not?

I think the difference here, while the creepiness factor is still in place, is that a 14 year old boy cannot get pregnant, while a 14 year old girl can. There is still the HUGE potential for exploitation, which is the point, but it tends to be looked upon as less harmful to the minor in question when it is a boy, or less likely to ruin the rest of his life. Besides, it's much rarer as well. Usually in the context of older/younger relationships, the female is the younger. At that age, they're not legally considered able to give consent, and their maturity level isn't developed to the point at which they can make a well thought out decision. This applies to males and females. The law is there to protect them from people who would take advantage of this.

yes, that's why we have these laws. but when silver say 'Some young guys actually have it together enough that it interests an older woman' she's not talking about 14 years olds but about adult younger man/ older woman relationships, which is totaly different (we all seem pretty much in agreeement that the 14/21 gap is wrong no matter what gender the younger party).

hmm she was just alittle to nieve and such
and I got sick of doing her biology homework
<immaturity>Heh, "biology"</immaturity>
Seriously though, age doesn't make much difference to me, unless we're talking one minor with someone twenty or more years older than them, or prepubescent with anyone over the age of 12 (cause thats the true pedophiles IMO). Keep in mind this is for purely non-sexual relationships, for sexual, only creepy ones are the 14/21 and the 17/30-something. Course I'm probably in a bad location to comment, my state names everthing after a guy who married a 20 year old in his 60s

I dont really thing that age matters...Unless of coars its something like a 40 year old married to somebody who is 13...I saw that on Maury one time...It was aweful.

I'm 17 and I want to date my 30 year old biology teacher. She's so hot.

I'm 17 and I want to date my 30 year old biology teacher. She's so hot.

you're not in Balwearie are you? :P

I'm 17 and I want to date my 30 year old biology teacher. She's so hot.

you're not in Balwearie are you? :P

I have no idea what that is...but no I am there

But I will fuck her.

The worst relationship I know of, was a 14 year old boy, who went out, with a 26 year old woman, apparently they had sex, but you know, rumors...

The worst relationship I know of, was a 14 year old boy, who went out, with a 26 year old woman, apparently they had sex, but you know, rumors...

When I was 14, I would have loved to have sex with a good looking 26 year old woman.

a 34 year old woman with a 17 year old boy is creepy. so is the other way around


well i see what you mean, but a girl of 17 IS generally more mature than a boy of the same age.

having said that, i do find that particular age gap a strain on my comfort zone (but not as much as the 14-21 :shock: ).

It seems from what you're all saying that pretty much once the younger partner is over 18 it ceases to matter so much. granted a lot of folk still have development to do after that age but it's still a bit of a watershed.

it does matter, but its no longer any of our business. they have to work it out as adults. or not.

I'm 17 and I want to date my 30 year old biology teacher. She's so hot.

hey if she's single, ask her out as soon as you graduate and are 18.
see what happens

The worst relationship I know of, was a 14 year old boy, who went out, with a 26 year old woman, apparently they had sex, but you know, rumors...

When I was 14, I would have loved to have sex with a good looking 26 year old woman.
Who says she was good looking, basically, what happened, was he went to a nightclub, got in though it was over 18's only, and got pissed, woke up next morning in the same bed a this 26 year old woman, and then did it agin.

I'm 17 and I want to date my 30 year old biology teacher. She's so hot.

hey if she's single, ask her out as soon as you graduate and are 18.
see what happens

I just might. I would become a god.

The worst relationship I know of, was a 14 year old boy, who went out, with a 26 year old woman, apparently they had sex, but you know, rumors...

When I was 14, I would have loved to have sex with a good looking 26 year old woman.
Who says she was good looking, basically, what happened, was he went to a nightclub, got in though it was over 18's only, and got pissed, woke up next morning in the same bed a this 26 year old woman, and then did it agin.

Basically what I'm saying is, I wouldn't mind having sex with the 26 year old as long as she wasn't repulsive.

The worst relationship I know of, was a 14 year old boy, who went out, with a 26 year old woman, apparently they had sex, but you know, rumors...

When I was 14, I would have loved to have sex with a good looking 26 year old woman.
Who says she was good looking, basically, what happened, was he went to a nightclub, got in though it was over 18's only, and got pissed, woke up next morning in the same bed a this 26 year old woman, and then did it agin.

Basically what I'm saying is, I wouldn't mind having sex with the 26 year old as long as she wasn't repulsive.
If you say so.

Don't tell me you wouldn't.

Don't tell me you wouldn't.
depends what she looked like how how much i'd had to drink.

BUMP

This thread reminds me of how much my name sounds like Lolita.

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I'm 17 and I want to date my 30 year old biology teacher. She's so hot.You might want to date her, but she'd have to pretty screwed up to want to date you, in which case are you sure you want to date her?

really good point, squi... a 30 year old woman really would have some issues if she wanted to date a 17 year old guy.. or 18, for that matter.
i know i'm 15, and i've found that most highschoolers are incredibly hard to date... although there are plenty good exceptions. so if a 30 year old woman wanted to be with a 17/18 year old, it'd be really.... uhh... crazy.

makes me think of that song by the police.. "don't stand so close to me". haha

I agree with above.

This thread reminds me of how much my name sounds like Lolita.


Lol! actually, it always make me think of 'Attila'.

I never paid attention to your name, i just called you big bums, (From your sig.)

I feel that if a person is older than you by a major % of your age its wrong. Also If your in highschool, date only your class level. If your in college STAY THE HELL OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL. :evil: And of course if your out of college, any one in school still unless they went back to school later, You should only look but not touch anyone younger than you. Me and my girlfriend are the same age 18 so Im within my own rules. But thats just how I feel.

I was thinking about it today, and I'd like to here your thoughts on these real-life relatsionhips between people I know. Obviosuly names are ommited.

14yo & 16yo

15yo & 17yo

14yo & 21yo

17yo & 24yo

17yo & 34yo
Ok. with most of those I would say it seems reasonable, but one is questionable and another is just plain wrong. the questionable? 14 and 21. the wrong? give ya 3 guesses...
I say the deal with the 21 to 14 is questionable because a relationship should be based on the mental compatability. I'm 20 and I have a 15 year old girlfriend. Not cause I'm sick or perverted, but because one would never know she was 15 if she didn't tell you. She is very mature for her age and we love eachother. At the same time, there are occurances where the situation is different. Other girls aren't usually that mature. So that is why I say questionable. It depends on the 14 year old...
Another important thing to consider is that for about 2000 years before America and even for the first century of the USA's existance, it was considered the norm for a 14 year old girl to marry a 30 year old man. the reason was because that man would be already set up in life and prepared to support her properly. Also note that those relationships rarely ended in divorce. Think on that in comparison to today's standards. Divorce rates have never been higher.
Just a few thoughts. Thank you.
**This has been another entirely useless post from the desk of Dana Gray...**

I feel that if a person is older than you by a major % of your age its wrong. Also If your in highschool, date only your class level. If your in college STAY THE HELL OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL. :evil: And of course if your out of college, any one in school still unless they went back to school later, You should only look but not touch anyone younger than you. Me and my girlfriend are the same age 18 so Im within my own rules. But thats just how I feel.
First off, I might note this relationship. Lorretta Lynne was 14 when she married her 21 year old husband. They stayed together their entire life, had lots of babies and had one of the best marriages a person could ask for. Their love was true. so what was that you where saying?

Another important thing to consider is that for about 2000 years before America and even for the first century of the USA's existance, it was considered the norm for a 14 year old girl to marry a 30 year old man. the reason was because that man would be already set up in life and prepared to support her properly. Also note that those relationships rarely ended in divorce. Think on that in comparison to today's standards. Divorce rates have never been higher.

Considering that at that time they would have drawn a great deal of scorn for having divorced in that highly religious and moral society, not to mention that it would leave the woman pretty much destitute, I can see why divorce rates were so low....

Not saying I agree or disagree.. that's just the first thing I thought of.

I feel that if a person is older than you by a major % of your age its wrong. Also If your in highschool, date only your class level. If your in college STAY THE HELL OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL. :evil: And of course if your out of college, any one in school still unless they went back to school later, You should only look but not touch anyone younger than you. Me and my girlfriend are the same age 18 so Im within my own rules. But thats just how I feel.
First off, I might note this relationship. Lorretta Lynne was 14 when she married her 21 year old husband. They stayed together their entire life, had lots of babies and had one of the best marriages a person could ask for. Their love was true. so what was that you where saying?

I really dont care. If your half her age when she was born it is totaly unaceptable. Age gaps are disgusting when we are talking about people this young. I have no problem about a 24 yr old and a 31 yr old, I maen more power to ya. But if you can honistly say that you were able to walk and talk befor your girl/boyfrind was even born, you should not even be looking at this person. You, are 1/3 of her life older than her, not to mention you are 2 age milestones older than her, how can you look at that number and be unperverted. I dont care about Maturity, Law is Law and morals are morals. You may not see yourself as disgusting and desterbed but thats what you are.

Now im..(Too young to fall in love, too young to fall in lo-ove)
Much too young.....(Too young to fall in love, too young to fall in lo-ove)
Im too young.......(Too young to fall in love, too young to fall in lo-ove)


Little Moltley Crue for ya.....

I'm 17 and I want to date my 30 year old biology teacher. She's so hot.

hey if she's single, ask her out as soon as you graduate and are 18.
see what happens

There's a teacher at my school who asks out his ex pupils all the time, just as they leave.

That means me and my girlfriend (she is 1 year, 4 months, and 3 days older than me) are good to go. ;-)

Oh, and I am 18 in 6 days!

Oooooooo...... you like the mature ladies? :wink:

That means me and my girlfriend (she is 1 year, 4 months, and 3 days older than me) are good to go. ;-)

You too the time to figure that out? :shock:

There's a teacher at my school who asks out his ex pupils all the time, just as they leave.

heh heh. and do they say yes?

There's a teacher at my school who asks out his ex pupils all the time, just as they leave.

heh heh. and do they say yes?


For the love of God and/or money I hope not....we had a teacher who always wanted to have one of the rooms that had the ampitheator style seating...lets think, old man + Unifrom Skirts + pretty girls + Ampotheator = OMGZ NO35!!!!

I feel that if a person is older than you by a major % of your age its wrong. Also If your in highschool, date only your class level. If your in college STAY THE HELL OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL. :evil: And of course if your out of college, any one in school still unless they went back to school later, You should only look but not touch anyone younger than you. Me and my girlfriend are the same age 18 so Im within my own rules. But thats just how I feel.
First off, I might note this relationship. Lorretta Lynne was 14 when she married her 21 year old husband. They stayed together their entire life, had lots of babies and had one of the best marriages a person could ask for. Their love was true. so what was that you where saying?

I really dont care. If your half her age when she was born it is totaly unaceptable. Age gaps are disgusting when we are talking about people this young. I have no problem about a 24 yr old and a 31 yr old, I maen more power to ya. But if you can honistly say that you were able to walk and talk befor your girl/boyfrind was even born, you should not even be looking at this person. You, are 1/3 of her life older than her, not to mention you are 2 age milestones older than her, how can you look at that number and be unperverted. I dont care about Maturity, Law is Law and morals are morals. You may not see yourself as disgusting and desterbed but thats what you are.
ok, so you think. You don't care about maturity? Guess what, I'm not the only guy who does this. I can say for a fact that 90% of guys out there, no matter their age, will look at a 14 year old and think she's hot if she's hot. Most of them will play it off and act otherwise, but the truth that all know is that these girls ARE attractive. The reason for the age laws is cause they are not believed old enough to make their own descisions. That is also bull.
Take my girlfriend for instance. She lives with her mother and Step father. Her stepfather has attempted to rape her twice, once with her mother's help. Her mother beats her regularly. She spends her life running from her mother until she calms down enough that she can sleep. When we send someone there((Thats right, we've both tried all the various legal ways)) they find out who her mother is and turn the other way. As a result, Eriko is probably more mature then most 25 year olds. I can relate to her.
So you say "But if you can honistly say that you were able to walk and talk befor your girl/boyfrind was even born, you should not even be looking at this person". Do you reallize that that is only a 2 year difference maximum? I don't know about you((I'm not even sure about my age of starting)), but I know that my nephew was walking at about 9 months, and talking at just over a year. And no, I don't mean da-da and ma-ma either.
Furthermore, if it's alright for a 30 year old to date a 20 year old, I'd say it's alright for a 20 year old to date a 15 year old. especially one as mature as Eriko.

Another important thing to consider is that for about 2000 years before America and even for the first century of the USA's existance, it was considered the norm for a 14 year old girl to marry a 30 year old man. the reason was because that man would be already set up in life and prepared to support her properly. Also note that those relationships rarely ended in divorce. Think on that in comparison to today's standards. Divorce rates have never been higher.

Considering that at that time they would have drawn a great deal of scorn for having divorced in that highly religious and moral society, not to mention that it would leave the woman pretty much destitute, I can see why divorce rates were so low....

Not saying I agree or disagree.. that's just the first thing I thought of.
good point. But another thing you might note is that these moral standards started to go down just as the age laws began. coincidence?

First of All, Im very sorry to hear about her situation and I hope for you and her that you can find some way of solving this problem as quickly as posible. I can see that a very excentric, very unfortunite situation exists, and I agree that your situation merrits acceptance.

Ok Ill admit that Some 14 yr olds are Atractive, Shit my highschool is full of them, But do you realize that its guys like you that totally fuck over guys like me? I mean honistly What highschool girl is going to go out with a high school guy if she can have some older guy? If I were to pull something like you I would have to date A middle schooler, and thats just pediphilic. Really I would just like a chance at a girl of my own age, but no, Its always some College guy. I was extreamly lucky with my girlfriend because I was there at the right time, but I have many friends that get rejected time and time again by a girl having a 20 somthing boy friend.
And DOnt you guys have a whole stockpile of your own women? What about them? I would love to trade you on a 1 for 1 basis but guess what, That aint going to happen.

Your Nefiew is extreamly talented and give his parrents my reguards.

First of All, Im very sorry to hear about her situation and I hope for you and her that you can find some way of solving this problem as quickly as posible. I can see that a very excentric, very unfortunite situation exists, and I agree that your situation merrits acceptance.

Ok Ill admit that Some 14 yr olds are Atractive, Shit my highschool is full of them, But do you realize that its guys like you that totally f--- over guys like me? I mean honistly What highschool girl is going to go out with a high school guy if she can have some older guy? If I were to pull something like you I would have to date A middle schooler, and thats just pediphilic. Really I would just like a chance at a girl of my own age, but no, Its always some College guy. I was extreamly lucky with my girlfriend because I was there at the right time, but I have many friends that get rejected time and time again by a girl having a 20 somthing boy friend.
And DOnt you guys have a whole stockpile of your own women? What about them? I would love to trade you on a 1 for 1 basis but guess what, That aint going to happen.

Your Nefiew is extreamly talented and give his parrents my reguards.

Heh heh... I can see the conversation now:

"Hey, guys, some guy I met on the internet with bad spelling and an unusually high regard for your daughter wanted me to tell you hi!"

Ahhh... good times.

Oh give me a break, I dont exactly see a spell check and I wrote most of these messages during class. And I ment that I respect that his nephew's ability to talk and walk by the age of just a year, and what daugter?

mmm you know what i just remembered.. paul mccartney and heather mills.

ohhh yeah.

>_<

First of All, Im very sorry to hear about her situation and I hope for you and her that you can find some way of solving this problem as quickly as posible. I can see that a very excentric, very unfortunite situation exists, and I agree that your situation merrits acceptance.

Ok Ill admit that Some 14 yr olds are Atractive, Shit my highschool is full of them, But do you realize that its guys like you that totally f--- over guys like me? I mean honistly What highschool girl is going to go out with a high school guy if she can have some older guy? If I were to pull something like you I would have to date A middle schooler, and thats just pediphilic. Really I would just like a chance at a girl of my own age, but no, Its always some College guy. I was extreamly lucky with my girlfriend because I was there at the right time, but I have many friends that get rejected time and time again by a girl having a 20 somthing boy friend.
And DOnt you guys have a whole stockpile of your own women? What about them? I would love to trade you on a 1 for 1 basis but guess what, That aint going to happen.

Your Nefiew is extreamly talented and give his parrents my reguards.
**Nods** Yup, we do tend to take them away. Then again, how old are you. I might be able to hook you up with one of my slaves((Not what you think))...
Girls look for older guys automatically. the reason is they mature faster then guys both mentally and physically. But you know what, just be a good guy in Highschool. You won't get many during highschool((the good people never do)) but afterwords the girls won't stop coming to you!

Well Im 18, im graduating Highschool in about half-a-week. I am a good guy. I dont drink, I dont do drugs, I dont smoke, I dont go to parties, so I have fully experienced the lack of interest, shit, My only girlfriend I ever had broke up with me without telling me why. I didnt do anything that would have merited what she did to me. So ya now shes goin out with a guy, sorry, ass. This guy, who is in college, chaised one of my friends around the room with a knife the first time we meet him. So ya I guess the future holds good things but im not seeing the goodness quite yet.

14yo & 16yo

15yo & 17yo

14yo & 21yo

17yo & 24yo

17yo & 34yo

1. that's not too bad
2. still not too bad
3. my sis and her bf started dating when she was 14 and he was 21... it's a little wrong there... well, really wrong.
4. the same age gap, but with slightly older people, it's not quite as bad, but still a little... yeah..
5. that's just fucked up.

me 17 she 31. Got a lot of shit from parents etc. didnùt stop a damn thing, lots of you conservative religious "moral" dicks need to stay out of ,y life and govern your own damn kids.

everything worked out fine...lay off with the whole "sex being bad" or preverted, itùs natural for a guy my age or younger.

Well your just a lucky bastard. We have been talking about the girl being young. Your just one guy who happens to have reversed the situation. But seriously, shes 31?? What line of work is she in, not that it matters. She is Physicaly old enough to be your mother.

...itùs natural for a guy my age or younger.

So by inference it's unnatural for males over seventeen? You ought to get out more...



What line of work is she in, not that it matters.

If it doesn't matter, why ask?

because it may show why she would date a 17yr old. Some lines of work drive women REAL low. SOmetimes teaching and other profesions tend to allow the mind to accept this situation.

because it may show why she would date a 17yr old. Some lines of work drive women REAL low. SOmetimes teaching and other profesions tend to allow the mind to accept this situation.

Assuming that is true then "not that it matters" is obviously erroneous, isn't it?

What I need is a name change. It really would help. I'm tired of everyone giggling.

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Change your Picture and Laughs will stop. and I put not that it matters to try not to offend the post's Author by saying the only reason shes with him is because of her line of work.

Are we done??