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I'm just bored.. lets have a conversation.. no spam or I'll DEAT your butt..

Lets start with.. well, you decide.. you can ask me any question and I will answer it as long as you don't ask me any thing that is off limits because I'm a mod.. Like who is [violet] or what is Max Barry's nation.. etc..

Just thought it might be a nice distraction... feel free to discuss any thing.. (within reason)

:D

How do you feel about piggies?

Who are you planning to vote for?

Why does god have a name?

Who are you planning to vote for?

Well, if you mean the American election, I can't vote, I'm a Canadian, but I support Kerry.. as for the Canadian elections, I had a real hard time feeling I could support any of them given they all suck.. But after some thoughtful moments and reading platforms etc.. I have decided to stick with my roots and I will be voting for the Federal Liberal party..

so.. how you going... having a good time been a mod.. tahts good

Why does god have a name?

Good question.. I don't believe in a "god" but that is a good question.. the answer is, I don't know..

Do you support Canada having a Brtish Queen?

Does Womblingdon have a chance?

Who are you planning to vote for?

Well, if you mean the American election, I can't vote, I'm a Canadian, but I support Kerry.. as for the Canadian elections, I had a real hard time feeling I could support any of them given they all suck.. But after some thoughtful moments and reading platforms etc.. I have decided to stick with my roots and I will be voting for the Federal Liberal party..

Ah yes, the lite-right.

so.. how you going... having a good time been a mod.. tahts good

Being a mod rather sucks in many ways.. it's quite stressful.. you filter a lot of complaints.. but I'm not sure what it is about it, you start to feel a sense of responsibility.. perhaps out of respect for what Max Barry has done. This site I like to call the "little miracle" because some times when you do things.. you end up with much more then you thought, as this site has turned out to be.

Well, if you mean the American election, I can't vote, I'm a Canadian, but I support Kerry.. as for the Canadian elections, I had a real hard time feeling I could support any of them given they all suck.. But after some thoughtful moments and reading platforms etc.. I have decided to stick with my roots and I will be voting for the Federal Liberal party..

I meant Canadian. But good for you, I'd vote Liberal anyday over Conservative or NDP. I wish I could vote (I'm too young).
I live in Alberta and it's hard for me to express my opinions here when the majority are Conservative hicks. :roll:

Why does god have a name?

Good question.. I don't believe in a "god" but that is a good question.. the answer is, I don't know..

I believe that everything possible, concepts, happening, colours, hair etc
together makes god, kind of like voltron, except instead of it forming an arse kicking robot, it forms an unpleasant series of evolutionary steps, each more abstract than the last.
Also, just like voltron, some people stole the idea, added lasers and techno music, wrote a complicated book on it, and sold it to the public at a reduced rate, along with bonus offers like 'salvation' and 'eternal happiness'.

.`. religion = Power Rangers

Do you support Canada having a Brtish Queen?

No, I say save the mad cow and get her picture off our money.. Although, we only show her respect now.. We actually signed away from the commonwealth in 1982..

Does Womblingdon have a chance?

You're going to have to expand on that? Haha, Have a chance at what?

Why does god have a name?

Good question.. I don't believe in a "god" but that is a good question.. the answer is, I don't know..

I believe that everything possible, concepts, happening, colours, hair etc
together makes god, kind of like voltron, except instead of it forming an arse kicking robot, it forms an unpleasant series of evolutionary steps, each more abstract than the last.
Also, just like voltron, some people stole the idea, added lasers and techno music, wrote a complicated book on it, and sold it to the public at a reduced rate, along with bonus offers like 'salvation' and 'eternal happiness'.

.`. religion = Power Rangers

Wow, I think on some level that was deep.. ;)

Do you support Canada having a Brtish Queen?

No, I say save the mad cow and get her picture off our money.. Although, we only show her respect now.. We actually signed away from the commonwealth in 1982..

errr..you may be thinking of the Constitution, afaik Canada is still a Commonwealth Nation.

why are all the mods liberal/socialist atheists?

moved

Do you support Canada having a Brtish Queen?

No, I say save the mad cow and get her picture off our money.. Although, we only show her respect now.. We actually signed away from the commonwealth in 1982..

errr..you may be thinking of the Constitution, afaik Canada is still a Commonwealth Nation.

The Governor General.. is the representative of the Queen.. Only the Governor General has the ability to dissolve Parliament..Now.. Since 1982 if the (as we call the GG now) "figure-head" tried to impose that upon Canada, our court would strike it down as un constitutional.. thus.. meaning the same thing dear.. :)

Do you support Canada having a Brtish Queen?

No, I say save the mad cow and get her picture off our money.. Although, we only show her respect now.. We actually signed away from the commonwealth in 1982..

errr..you may be thinking of the Constitution, afaik Canada is still a Commonwealth Nation.

The Governor General.. is the representative of the Queen.. Only the Governor General has the ability to dissolve Parliament..Now.. Since 1982 if the (as we call the GG now) "figure-head" tried to impose that upon Canada, our court would strike it down as un constitutional.. thus.. meaning the same thing dear.. :)

err.. *scrathces head*... yes I know this but we are still Commonwealth though sovereign.

why are all the mods liberal/socialist atheists?

Oh they're not. We even have a few mods in the military.. I think that most of the mods keep their political beliefs to themselves.. I believe only really Tactical Grace and myself who tend to spend a lot of time in the debates are so obvious.. and it just so happens we have liberal thinking socially.. This is General after all.. you can find yourself a few conservative mods in NS & II.. don't kid yourself.. Liberals tend to be I think more idealistic.. not that being idealistic is a bad thing, because it's a good thing.. but I think that is why you tend to encounter more liberal mods such as Tac & myself here.. because that is where we are drawn.. (I hope that made sense)

Do you support Canada having a Brtish Queen?

No, I say save the mad cow and get her picture off our money.. Although, we only show her respect now.. We actually signed away from the commonwealth in 1982..

errr..you may be thinking of the Constitution, afaik Canada is still a Commonwealth Nation.

The Governor General.. is the representative of the Queen.. Only the Governor General has the ability to dissolve Parliament..Now.. Since 1982 if the (as we call the GG now) "figure-head" tried to impose that upon Canada, our court would strike it down as un constitutional.. thus.. meaning the same thing dear.. :)

err.. *scrathces head*... yes I know this but we are still Commonwealth though sovereign.

Well, literally.. but it means nothing more then being a member of the UN, NATO... etc..

why are all the mods liberal/socialist atheists?

Oh they're not. We even have a few mods in the military.. I think that most of the mods keep their political beliefs to themselves.. I believe only really Tactical Grace and myself who tend to spend a lot of time in the debates are so obvious.. and it just so happens we have liberal thinking socially.. This is General after all.. you can find yourself a few conservative mods in NS & II.. don't kid yourself.. Liberals tend to be I think more idealistic.. not that being idealistic is a bad thing, because it's a good thing.. but I think that is why you tend to encounter more liberal mods such as Tac & myself here.. because that is where we are drawn.. (I hope that made sense)

yeah...... you forgot myrth

What do Mods like yourself do for enjoyment? :shock:

why are all the mods liberal/socialist atheists?

Oh they're not. We even have a few mods in the military.. I think that most of the mods keep their political beliefs to themselves.. I believe only really Tactical Grace and myself who tend to spend a lot of time in the debates are so obvious.. and it just so happens we have liberal thinking socially.. This is General after all.. you can find yourself a few conservative mods in NS & II.. don't kid yourself.. Liberals tend to be I think more idealistic.. not that being idealistic is a bad thing, because it's a good thing.. but I think that is why you tend to encounter more liberal mods such as Tac & myself here.. because that is where we are drawn.. (I hope that made sense)

yeah...... you forgot myrth

Bah, Myrth is new.. :P

What do Mods like yourself do for enjoyment? :shock:

I don't believe any of the mods are like myself, any more then I am like them.. We are all unique people.. but this mod likes to sleep..lol I'm a parent of two kids. However, since that's not possible.. I spend a lot of time here.. heh. I love politics, it's my passion.. always has been, law & politics.. thus my interest in foreign policy..

Find out what you love to do and you'll never work a day in you life"

When will the war in the Congo and Chad finish and how?

When will the war in the Congo and Chad finish and how?

I'm not a magic 8 ball.. :lol:

I think that fighting has went on and off now for a very long time.. and because they have nothing to offer a 1st world nation.. it will keep going.. till some one like Bono tries to bring as much awareness to it that some thing is done.. Remember Rwanda.. :?

willl we be able to have signurature's and avatars when we move to jolt?

willl we be able to have signurature's and avatars when we move to jolt?

I don't know.. it's possible isn't it. I guess when we moved to Jolt we shall all know ;)

willl we be able to have signurature's and avatars when we move to jolt?

I don't know.. it's possible isn't it. I guess when we moved to Jolt we shall all know ;)


arent you supposed to know these things?

When will the war in the Congo and Chad finish and how?

I'm not a magic 8 ball.. :lol:

I think that fighting has went on and off now for a very long time.. and because they have nothing on any 1st world nation.. it will keep going.. till some one like Bono tries to bring as much awareness to it that some thing is done.. Remember Rwanda.. :?

I'm glad you mentioned Rwanda - Hutu militia residing in Chad are enganged in banditry against the local populace...

That entire region as suffered something like 4 million dead....not casualties.... but dead.....this is death on the scale of Cambodia....

There have been atrocious things done to people....a 9 year old girl who was crying because her father was being tortured had one eye popped and the other had molten plastic poured on it...

Anther girl aged 15 had a pistol inserted in her vangina and the weapon was discharged...

A 4 year old boy was found on a battlefield shot dead...the child had a weapon in his hands....

and this is nothing.

Now if we apply the logic of the need to remove dictators and other 'evil' why is there no US/Euro presence in that region?

What do Mods like yourself do for enjoyment? :shock:

I don't believe any of the mods are like myself, any more then I am like them.. We are all unique people.. but this mod likes to sleep..lol I'm a parent of two kids. However, since that's not possible.. I spend a lot of time here.. heh. I love politics, it's my passion.. always has been, law & politics.. thus my interest in foreign policy..

You like to sleep, h'm? Well perhaps you can give me some advice. How does one sleep when there is a massive load of homework and finals are approaching? And how does one find the time to do anything besides studying/working?
My interest in politics/global affairs started to arouse only after I joined this site. It's strange how I would always ignore the news because I thought it was boring, but now, I can't even end my day without reading/watching the news. So for that, I thank NS.

When will the war in the Congo and Chad finish and how?

I'm not a magic 8 ball.. :lol:

I think that fighting has went on and off now for a very long time.. and because they have nothing on any 1st world nation.. it will keep going.. till some one like Bono tries to bring as much awareness to it that some thing is done.. Remember Rwanda.. :?

I'm glad you mentioned Rwanda - Hutu militia residing in Chad are enganged in banditry against the local populace...

That entire region as suffered something like 4 million dead....not casualties.... but dead.....this is death on the scale of Cambodia....

There have been atrocious things done to people....a 9 year old girl who was crying because her father was being tortured had one eye popped and the other had molten plastic poured on it...

Anther girl aged 15 had a pistol inserted in her vangina and the weapon was discharged...

A 4 year old boy was found on a battlefield shot dead...the child had a weapon in his hands....

and this is nothing.

Now if we apply the logic of the need to remove dictators and other 'evil' why is there no US/Euro presence in that region?

Well, you have to understand the mind set.. the hawks in the United states are in power, they're about as interested in "liberation" as you are in probably wanting to shoot yourself right now ok. They count on the average voter not being aware.. never looking at the facts.. "taking their word for it" ... Look at the Sudan right now.. another Rwanda it's turning into as well.. but there is no reason to help.. America is not moving in that direction.. diplomacy is not the favoured method of the hawks.. "They're busy"

It reminds me of Babylon 5, The Vorlons and The Shadows.. it's one or the other.. so it seems.. *shrug*

When will the war in the Congo and Chad finish and how?

I'm not a magic 8 ball.. :lol:

I think that fighting has went on and off now for a very long time.. and because they have nothing on any 1st world nation.. it will keep going.. till some one like Bono tries to bring as much awareness to it that some thing is done.. Remember Rwanda.. :?

I'm glad you mentioned Rwanda - Hutu militia residing in Chad are enganged in banditry against the local populace...

That entire region as suffered something like 4 million dead....not casualties.... but dead.....this is death on the scale of Cambodia....

There have been atrocious things done to people....a 9 year old girl who was crying because her father was being tortured had one eye popped and the other had molten plastic poured on it...

Anther girl aged 15 had a pistol inserted in her vangina and the weapon was discharged...

A 4 year old boy was found on a battlefield shot dead...the child had a weapon in his hands....

and this is nothing.

Now if we apply the logic of the need to remove dictators and other 'evil' why is there no US/Euro presence in that region?

Well, you have to understand the mind set.. the hawks in the United states are in power, they're about as interested in "liberation" as you are in probably wanting to shoot yourself right now ok. They count on the average voter not being aware.. never looking at the facts.. "taking their word for it" ... Look at the Sudan right now.. another Rwanda it's turning into as well.. but there is no reason to help.. America is not moving in that direction.. diplomacy is not the favoured method of the hawks.. "They're busy"

It reminds me of Babylon 5, The Vorlons and The Shadows.. it's one or the other.. so it seems.. *shrug*

Steph...the US Can't be everywhere..so you can hardly blame us for "liberating" countries that have a dual-purpose that benefits our national interests?...Why isn't Canada sending in liberation forces eh?

The UN is made up of several power blocks.why is the US expected to go into Sudan?...where is the African Union?..should they not be the power most liable to desire peace in that region?...I'll tell you why, because either they are useless or are so corrupted themselves they don't care bout the Sudan.

On a liter nite Steph..you have my sympathy on the lack of sleep, been there, done that..have zero desire to go back to it..lol..how old are the tykes? Still infants or toddlers?

What I've always wanted to know is: are the mods actually in on all the secrets ([violet], Max Barry's nation etc.), or do they just pretend they know to make us jealous?

What I've always wanted to know is: are the mods actually in on all the secrets ([violet], Max Barry's nation etc.), or do they just pretend they know to make us jealous?

I suppose that's another mystery isn't it .. ;)

Steph, from my observations, for some reason you seem to cop more criticism than most mods.

Why do you think this is?

How do you react?

Heres a question for you.

During the Clinton administration, America experienced its greatest period of economic growth ever, due to what some feel, was a reversal of Reagan and Bush SR's "Trickle Down, or Voodoo" ecenomics...
Thus...aiming the TRUE tax cuts back to the poor.

My question is...

Do you feel that if Kerry does the same WHEN HE TAKES OFFICE....that America may experience much of the same?

Steph, from my observations, for some reason you seem to cop more criticism than most mods.

Why do you think this is?

How do you react?

Yes, it would appear so huh.. I think it's probably because I only moderate General basically. I'm also very active, as well as quite outspoken on my own political views out in the open. Most of the mods keep their political views to themselves. Perhaps I also get more flack then lets say Tactical Grace.. that might be because I'm a Game Mod and he's a Forum Mod.. I have the ability to delete people.. which causes some chaos. General is historically on this site the more "problem" area.. and this is where I am..

How do I react? Well.. I use to worry if some one complained about me.. I would want input from the other mods.. "Did I do some thing wrong" Then after a while I started to notice that the mod hating/complainers on the most part are always either the same people, or some one who broke the rules and really don't have a leg to stand on. The majority of people on this site don't break the rules. So, I now just say.. "you're breaking the rules or you're not" and take it from there.. if some one wishes to give me a hard time about that seems to be their problem, not mine. :)

Steph, from my observations, for some reason you seem to cop more criticism than most mods.

Why do you think this is?

How do you react?

Yes, it would appear so huh.. I think it's probably because I only moderate General basically. I'm also very active, as well as quite outspoken on my own political views out in the open. Most of the mods keep their political views to themselves. Perhaps I also get more flack then lets say Tactical Grace.. that might be because I'm a Game Mod and he's a Forum Mod.. I have the ability to delete people.. which causes some chaos. General is historically on this site the more "problem" area.. and this is where I am..

How do I react? Well.. I use to worry if some one complained about me.. I would want input from the other mods.. "Did I do some thing wrong" Then after a while I started to notice that the mod hating/complainers on the most part are always either the same people, or some one who broke the rules and really don't have a leg to stand on. The majority of people on this site don't break the rules. So, I now just say.. "you're breaking the rules or you're not" and take it from there.. if some one wishes to give me a hard time about that seems to be their problem, not mine. :)

My sons would say...what was it..oh yeah..."You go girlfriend"?....me...I just say "give em hell" hun.

Heres a question for you.

During the Clinton administration, America experienced its greatest period of economic growth ever, due to what some feel, was a reversal of Reagan and Bush SR's "Trickle Down, or Voodoo" ecenomics...
Thus...aiming the TRUE tax cuts back to the poor.

My question is...

Do you feel that if Kerry does the same WHEN HE TAKES OFFICE....that America may experience much of the same?

Yes, I believe looking at Kerry he would appear to be a "Clinton" Democrat. The right is trying VERY hard to make him look like a flip flopping liberal democrat. Yet, most news has now exposed the RNC and the Bush/Cheney ticket have been lying about Kerry's record, misquoting him etc.. trying to make some thing he did 20 years ago look like last year..lol It's funny to watch when you know better..

To the point, yes, I believe the Clinton/Gore administration was an extremely good one. Sure they made a few mistakes, ones that didn't get any one killed though... From an ecomonic stand.. they certainly knew how to balance a budget. and get the Republicans to agree. Go figure.. Yes, I believe this is the Kerry the American people will be getting, yet more so, I believe Kerry is a man of honor.. a little boring..lol but he has honor and you can see he's a mans. man, a real fighter. Would do your country good.

When will the war in the Congo and Chad finish and how?

I'm not a magic 8 ball.. :lol:

I think that fighting has went on and off now for a very long time.. and because they have nothing on any 1st world nation.. it will keep going.. till some one like Bono tries to bring as much awareness to it that some thing is done.. Remember Rwanda.. :?

I'm glad you mentioned Rwanda - Hutu militia residing in Chad are enganged in banditry against the local populace...

That entire region as suffered something like 4 million dead....not casualties.... but dead.....this is death on the scale of Cambodia....

There have been atrocious things done to people....a 9 year old girl who was crying because her father was being tortured had one eye popped and the other had molten plastic poured on it...

Anther girl aged 15 had a pistol inserted in her vangina and the weapon was discharged...

A 4 year old boy was found on a battlefield shot dead...the child had a weapon in his hands....

and this is nothing.

Now if we apply the logic of the need to remove dictators and other 'evil' why is there no US/Euro presence in that region?

Well, you have to understand the mind set.. the hawks in the United states are in power, they're about as interested in "liberation" as you are in probably wanting to shoot yourself right now ok. They count on the average voter not being aware.. never looking at the facts.. "taking their word for it" ... Look at the Sudan right now.. another Rwanda it's turning into as well.. but there is no reason to help.. America is not moving in that direction.. diplomacy is not the favoured method of the hawks.. "They're busy"

It reminds me of Babylon 5, The Vorlons and The Shadows.. it's one or the other.. so it seems.. *shrug*

Steph...the US Can't be everywhere..so you can hardly blame us for "liberating" countries that have a dual-purpose that benefits our national interests?...Why isn't Canada sending in liberation forces eh?

The UN is made up of several power blocks.why is the US expected to go into Sudan?...where is the African Union?..should they not be the power most liable to desire peace in that region?...I'll tell you why, because either they are useless or are so corrupted themselves they don't care bout the Sudan.

Well the Sudan is another example and one that might interest the US as part of the tragedy there (beside another famine) is that the Arabs are fighting the Black Sudanese...its Islam v Christianity.....

I can only say though that the Congo and Chad makes Rwanda look like a school ground spat...

Salishe - you are right. America is acting for itslef in the most self serving way. Maybe if there is intervention in these places the US might gain back alot of what she has lost in the last 25 years....

Well the Sudan is another example and one that might interest the US as part of the tragedy there (beside another famine) is that the Arabs are fighting the Black Sudanese...its Islam v Christianity.....

I can only say though that the Congo and Chad makes Rwanda look like a school ground spat...

Salishe - you are right. America is acting for itslef in the most self serving way. Maybe if there is intervention in these places the US might gain back alot of what she has lost in the last 25 years....[/quote]

But I reiterate...why is the US the only power expected to go off galloping? Why not berate the African Union..over 30 nations that could go into Sudan...Why not the EU..they are closer...both have the capability to send in troops...why not berate India or Australia..why do you expect the US to go off on every tin-pot dictator when the rest of the world sits on their asses?

Well the Sudan is another example and one that might interest the US as part of the tragedy there (beside another famine) is that the Arabs are fighting the Black Sudanese...its Islam v Christianity.....

I can only say though that the Congo and Chad makes Rwanda look like a school ground spat...

Salishe - you are right. America is acting for itslef in the most self serving way. Maybe if there is intervention in these places the US might gain back alot of what she has lost in the last 25 years....

But I reiterate...why is the US the only power expected to go off galloping? Why not berate the African Union..over 30 nations that could go into Sudan...Why not the EU..they are closer...both have the capability to send in troops...why not berate India or Australia..why do you expect the US to go off on every tin-pot dictator when the rest of the world sits on their asses?

Because its the US that has set itself up as the planets 'Boy Scout' as it were...

And the fact is that the US really does not contribute much in the way of troops to the UN than other nations....which (given the escapades in Iraq) is probably a good thing....

Does Womblingdon have a chance?

You're going to have to expand on that? Haha, Have a chance at what?

Womblingdon, I note you're online .. do you have any idea what he might mean?

Well the Sudan is another example and one that might interest the US as part of the tragedy there (beside another famine) is that the Arabs are fighting the Black Sudanese...its Islam v Christianity.....

I can only say though that the Congo and Chad makes Rwanda look like a school ground spat...

Salishe - you are right. America is acting for itslef in the most self serving way. Maybe if there is intervention in these places the US might gain back alot of what she has lost in the last 25 years....

But I reiterate...why is the US the only power expected to go off galloping? Why not berate the African Union..over 30 nations that could go into Sudan...Why not the EU..they are closer...both have the capability to send in troops...why not berate India or Australia..why do you expect the US to go off on every tin-pot dictator when the rest of the world sits on their asses?

Because its the US that has set itself up as the planets 'Boy Scout' as it were...

And the fact is that the US really does not contribute much in the way of troops to the UN than other nations....which (given the escapades in Iraq) is probably a good thing....

Really doesn't contribute much?...I see our troops spread out from the Balkans to Korea and back again..if not logistics, outright combat troops..the planes flying the no-fly zone..if I'm not mistaken were heavily slanted to American planes..

Oh..I see...because other nations don't give a damn bout the Sudan that implies that we should be "required" to go in there? Just what does that say bout the other worlds' power blocs?

Well the Sudan is another example and one that might interest the US as part of the tragedy there (beside another famine) is that the Arabs are fighting the Black Sudanese...its Islam v Christianity.....

I can only say though that the Congo and Chad makes Rwanda look like a school ground spat...

Salishe - you are right. America is acting for itslef in the most self serving way. Maybe if there is intervention in these places the US might gain back alot of what she has lost in the last 25 years....

But I reiterate...why is the US the only power expected to go off galloping? Why not berate the African Union..over 30 nations that could go into Sudan...Why not the EU..they are closer...both have the capability to send in troops...why not berate India or Australia..why do you expect the US to go off on every tin-pot dictator when the rest of the world sits on their asses?

Because its the US that has set itself up as the planets 'Boy Scout' as it were...

And the fact is that the US really does not contribute much in the way of troops to the UN than other nations....which (given the escapades in Iraq) is probably a good thing....

Really doesn't contribute much?...I see our troops spread out from the Balkans to Korea and back again..if not logistics, outright combat troops..the planes flying the no-fly zone..if I'm not mistaken were heavily slanted to American planes..

Oh..I see...because other nations don't give a damn bout the Sudan that implies that we should be "required" to go in there? Just what does that say bout the other worlds' power blocs?

I said in conjunction with the UN. As in peacekeepers.....

Well the Sudan is another example and one that might interest the US as part of the tragedy there (beside another famine) is that the Arabs are fighting the Black Sudanese...its Islam v Christianity.....

I can only say though that the Congo and Chad makes Rwanda look like a school ground spat...

Salishe - you are right. America is acting for itslef in the most self serving way. Maybe if there is intervention in these places the US might gain back alot of what she has lost in the last 25 years....

But I reiterate...why is the US the only power expected to go off galloping? Why not berate the African Union..over 30 nations that could go into Sudan...Why not the EU..they are closer...both have the capability to send in troops...why not berate India or Australia..why do you expect the US to go off on every tin-pot dictator when the rest of the world sits on their asses?

Because its the US that has set itself up as the planets 'Boy Scout' as it were...

And the fact is that the US really does not contribute much in the way of troops to the UN than other nations....which (given the escapades in Iraq) is probably a good thing....

Really doesn't contribute much?...I see our troops spread out from the Balkans to Korea and back again..if not logistics, outright combat troops..the planes flying the no-fly zone..if I'm not mistaken were heavily slanted to American planes..

Oh..I see...because other nations don't give a damn bout the Sudan that implies that we should be "required" to go in there? Just what does that say bout the other worlds' power blocs?

I said in conjunction with the UN. As in peacekeepers.....

The reason being is at no time are US military personnel to be under the authority of any other sovereign military..the US has repeatedly refused to place US troops under officers not of the US, which the UN typically does with other nation's troops....for example..in Somalia, crucial time was blown due to the fact we had to work with the Pakistanis who had the assets to retrieve the Rangers in and round Mogadishu, the 10th Mountain was providing security..but we had to kiss ass with the Pakistanis in order to get transport..

I said in conjunction with the UN. As in peacekeepers.....

The reason being is at no time are US military personnel to be under the authority of any other sovereign military..the US has repeatedly refused to place US troops under officers not of the US, which the UN typically does with other nation's troops....for example..in Somalia, crucial time was blown due to the fact we had to work with the Pakistanis who had the assets to retrieve the Rangers in and round Mogadishu, the 10th Mountain was providing security..but we had to kiss ass with the Pakistanis in order to get transport..

Thank you. And thats not entirely true. Nato.

I said in conjunction with the UN. As in peacekeepers.....

The reason being is at no time are US military personnel to be under the authority of any other sovereign military..the US has repeatedly refused to place US troops under officers not of the US, which the UN typically does with other nation's troops....for example..in Somalia, crucial time was blown due to the fact we had to work with the Pakistanis who had the assets to retrieve the Rangers in and round Mogadishu, the 10th Mountain was providing security..but we had to kiss ass with the Pakistanis in order to get transport..

Thank you. And thats not entirely true. Nato.

Vonn..it's been a few years since I last bothered to review NATO TO & E, but I believe even there that US personnel are not placed under direct non-US authority

I said in conjunction with the UN. As in peacekeepers.....

The reason being is at no time are US military personnel to be under the authority of any other sovereign military..the US has repeatedly refused to place US troops under officers not of the US, which the UN typically does with other nation's troops....for example..in Somalia, crucial time was blown due to the fact we had to work with the Pakistanis who had the assets to retrieve the Rangers in and round Mogadishu, the 10th Mountain was providing security..but we had to kiss ass with the Pakistanis in order to get transport..

Thank you. And thats not entirely true. Nato.

Vonn..it's been a few years since I last bothered to review NATO TO & E, but I believe even there that US personnel are not placed under direct non-US authority

Well I have been to exercises back in the day (as a guest) that had non US commanders.....to be honest I think its a moot point.

hang on...let me TM you on a different matter...

but on this issue....of Sudan.....its tragic...and let me say that I am equally appalled that no other countries are trying to deal with the situation there ....and the Congo....

I said in conjunction with the UN. As in peacekeepers.....

The reason being is at no time are US military personnel to be under the authority of any other sovereign military..the US has repeatedly refused to place US troops under officers not of the US, which the UN typically does with other nation's troops....for example..in Somalia, crucial time was blown due to the fact we had to work with the Pakistanis who had the assets to retrieve the Rangers in and round Mogadishu, the 10th Mountain was providing security..but we had to kiss ass with the Pakistanis in order to get transport..

Thank you. And thats not entirely true. Nato.

Vonn..it's been a few years since I last bothered to review NATO TO & E, but I believe even there that US personnel are not placed under direct non-US authority

Well I have been to exercises back in the day (as a guest) that had non US commanders.....to be honest I think its a moot point.

hang on...let me TM you on a different matter...

but on this issue....of Sudan.....its tragic...and let me say that I am equally appalled that no other countries are trying to deal with the situation there ....and the Congo....

There is a presidential order (number escapes me at the moment) that explicitly forbids US forces from being commanded by non-US officers during peacekeeping/peace enforcement operations.

As for the Sudan, in addition to the reasons already provided as to why Western military powers have not gotten involved. The Lords Resistance army utilizes child soldiers as shock troopers in their war with the government through terror strikes and guerrilla attacks.

Almost every military commander I have spoken too or read about, including those that have faced child soldiers, are extremely hesitant to place their combat forces in a situation where they would be forced to engage and terminate 10 year olds. The psychological conditioning of soldiers to kill upon command still is subservient to basic human nature to protect the young.

Secondly, the terrain that the conflict is located in would prevent the US or the UK from adequately deploying air superiority forces. They would be forced to engage in a Vietnam style clearing with very corrupt and inefficient local military units (The Ugandan military is not exactly stellar).

Edit: Spelling and such

why are all the mods liberal/socialist atheists?

Oh they're not. We even have a few mods in the military.. I think that most of the mods keep their political beliefs to themselves.. I believe only really Tactical Grace and myself who tend to spend a lot of time in the debates are so obvious.. and it just so happens we have liberal thinking socially.. This is General after all.. you can find yourself a few conservative mods in NS & II.. don't kid yourself.. Liberals tend to be I think more idealistic.. not that being idealistic is a bad thing, because it's a good thing.. but I think that is why you tend to encounter more liberal mods such as Tac & myself here.. because that is where we are drawn.. (I hope that made sense)

yeah...... you forgot myrth

Bah, Myrth is new.. :P

Hey! :evil:

Question:if Bush allows another 911 type assault on american soil will it help him get re-elected cause of peoples fears or will it backlash against him like it did in Spain?

Being a mod rather sucks in many ways...

Amen to that, I used to be a mod at another site, but I imagine that was nothing compared to the zillions of threads you must lock/delete, many region griefers to kill, and multis to track. Hats off to you

Question:if Bush allows another 911 type assault on american soil will it help him get re-elected cause of peoples fears or will it backlash against him like it did in Spain?

the backlash in Spain was due to Anzar's government blaming ETA....and the popoulace knew they were lying....

Will I ever get Foxxinnia back? God-Damn it.

Question:if Bush allows another 911 type assault on american soil will it help him get re-elected cause of peoples fears or will it backlash against him like it did in Spain?

She's Canadian....

but as an American, I suspect it will backlash on Bush.

As Bush said before,

"Fool me once...shame on....shame on you. Fool me twice...shame on....shame on you, no...shame on....*mutters*"

Steph, I have a question. What happened to The Smoking Man?

Just in case anyone doesn't know what I'm talking about here (although I'm quite sure that Stephistan does), I'll post the things which concern me.

In this thread, [click] (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=138246&highlight=)The Smoking Man claims to be retiring. His tone is... depressed, to say the least.

In this thread [click] (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=142410&highlight=), he is back, and says he has given up smoking. (The Non-Smoking Man??) However, by this thread [click] (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=149903&start=0), he is smoking again quite happily. Obviously, there has been a marked slacking off in the conspiracy theories since the last major one which is now quite a long time ago... were you really so naive as to think that we wouldn't notice these changes?

My question therefore is what have you done with The Real Smoking Man, and who is controling him now?

Steph- What are your thoughts on the American Civil War? The Confederate States of America?
Drop me a TG, and we can debate if you think the Confederacy was wrong or evil and some way... or if you think the war was about slavery.
Actually, anyone willing to discuss this drop me a TG. I just want to know what the Canadian thinks :P

Will I ever get my origanal country back?

I'm a man without a country!

Wait a minute! I've already posted this!
AHH!

Will I ever get my original country back?

even i can answer that, NO

Just in case anyone doesn't know what I'm talking about here (although I'm quite sure that Stephistan does), I'll post the things which concern me.

In this thread, [click] (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=138246&highlight=)The Smoking Man claims to be retiring. His tone is... depressed, to say the least.

In this thread [click] (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=142410&highlight=), he is back, and says he has given up smoking. (The Non-Smoking Man??) However, by this thread [click] (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=149903&start=0), he is smoking again quite happily. Obviously, there has been a marked slacking off in the conspiracy theories since the last major one which is now quite a long time ago... were you really so naive as to think that we wouldn't notice these changes?

My question therefore is what have you done with The Real Smoking Man, and who is controling him now?

Well, I'm not Stephi, but my favorite shadow conspiracy is always The Liberal Jew Run Media. Perhaps they kidnapped him and are forcing him to eat matzoh?

Will the NS forums ever be as fast as every other site?

and...Will you ever answer my telegram? :(

Will the NS forums ever be as fast as every other site?
Thats like a magic 8-ball question I think.

Is it true that you live in a house made entirely out of turtles?

Since you are working on your masters in PoliSci:
What university?
How far along are you on your degree?
MS or MA?
What branch of PS is most interesrting to you?
What is your thesis on?

Amerigo is a land of contrast

Question for Stephistan, why did you start a Q&A thread?

Oh this thread lived.. haha, who'd a thunk it.

Ok, well seems I have a lot of questions to answer. I will try to get to them all..

I'll even try to do them in order.. :lol:

First one to TRA:

Question:if Bush allows another 911 type assault on american soil will it help him get re-elected cause of peoples fears or will it backlash against him like it did in Spain?

This would totally work in Bush's favour. The country would again rally around the President just like they did after 9/11, despite at the time his very low numbers , the still disputed election of 2000 and with no clear mandate given to him by the people. Yet, they rallied and his numbers went through the roof. Judging by the American mentality.. I suspect the same thing would happen again. Of course Bush would instill so much fear into the average American again that they would be too afraid to vote for any one but him. That is what I think.

Question for Stephistan, why did you start a Q&A thread?

I started it the other night cause I was bored.. now you made me wreck the order of the questions.. :lol:

Question for Stephistan, why did you start a Q&A thread?

I started it the other night cause I was bored.. now you made me wreck the order of the questions.. :lol:

I see. Well, I am the causer of chaos. :twisted:

Steph, I have a question. What happened to The Smoking Man?

I have a funny feeling we haven't seen the last of "The Smoking Man" ;)

Will the NS forums ever be as fast as every other site?

and...Will you ever answer my telegram? :(

Yes! They will hopefully speed up when we move to Jolt.. I don't always answer my telegrams.. I get too many of them. Sorry.

Steph...the US Can't be everywhere..so you can hardly blame us for "liberating" countries that have a dual-purpose that benefits our national interests?...Why isn't Canada sending in liberation forces eh?

The UN is made up of several power blocks.why is the US expected to go into Sudan?...where is the African Union?..should they not be the power most liable to desire peace in that region?...I'll tell you why, because either they are useless or are so corrupted themselves they don't care bout the Sudan.


I don't think anyone expects the US to be everywhere. However putting peacekeepers in place requires the top member of the security council to get involved and push for it. The US has not even tried to do that. Nor have the other members - who I hold equally accountable. Which is to say - I have a few fingers pointing on this issue, including at our own government. Even though we haven't the manpower right now to contribute much what with our ongoing commitment in Kabul, Haiti, as well as our other UN missions - our government should at least be doing some pushing on this issue.


As to where the African countries might be, in some cases they are having their own dificulties right now, and in other cases - they might just be following their laws and waiting for a mandate from the UN. Or do you think that Kenya is about to invade the Sudan unilateraly in order to stop the war? No? Me either. Unlike the US - who can pretty much waltz into any country with relative military impunity thanks to their technological advantage - these other countries need to have a mandate and support if they are to have any chance of succes at keeping warring factions apart. After all - it was largely African troops that tried to help out Dallaire in Rwanda, despite getting hamstrung by the security council.

Useless? corrupt? uncaring? Those attributes can be pointed in lots of directions around this world in this instance.

-Z-

Steph, I have a question. What happened to The Smoking Man?

I have a funny feeling we haven't seen the last of "The Smoking Man" ;)Oh, I don't believe you can keep him locked up forever. Forum 7 may be secure, but some day he'll get out.

Is there a Stephistan Appreciation Club?
Can I join? :D

Since you are working on your masters in PoliSci:
What university?
How far along are you on your degree?
MS or MA?
What branch of PS is most interesrting to you?
What is your thesis on?

I'm actually working on my Ph.D, I'm not going to give out too much personal info on an Internet forum.. I live in Ottawa.. so you can probably figure I go to one of two universities.. I'm in my last year (which I have deferred till next year).. I'm writing my Dissertation. I am most interested in foreign affairs. I am working on the Palestine/Israeli conflict/peace process.

Is there a Stephistan Appreciation Club?
Can I join? :D

The best way people can show "appreciation" to any of the moderators is to just follow the rules.. that's all we want. We ask no more then that. :)

I'm actually working on my Ph.D, I'm not going to give out too much personal info on an Internet forum.. I live in Ottawa.. so you can probably figure I go to one of two universities.. I'm in my last year (which I have deferred till next year).. I'm writing my Dissertation. I am most interested in foreign affairs. I am working on the Palestine/Israeli conflict/peace process.

Ah. Apologies. I though somewhere you said masters.
No worries on the second question (I almost didn*t post it for that exact reason).
Thanks.

Have you ever smoked da reefer?

/don't have to answer.

What's your favorite book

/other than Jennifer Government

What's your favorite beer?

/Mmmm... beer

Have you ever smoked da reefer?

/don't have to answer.

What's your favorite book

/other than Jennifer Government

What's your favorite beer?

/Mmmm... beer

I'm 35 years old.. I think just about every one by my age has smoked a joint or two in their day.. :lol:

Favourite book.. hmm tough one, so many to pick from. I have always enjoyed reading Alvin Toffler.. he has a few books out.. but "The Third Wave" sticks out for me.

I don't really like beer.. if I have to, I suppose a Bud..lol I prefer white wine.

How do you become a mod?

Steph...the US Can't be everywhere..so you can hardly blame us for "liberating" countries that have a dual-purpose that benefits our national interests?...Why isn't Canada sending in liberation forces eh?

The UN is made up of several power blocks.why is the US expected to go into Sudan?...where is the African Union?..should they not be the power most liable to desire peace in that region?...I'll tell you why, because either they are useless or are so corrupted themselves they don't care bout the Sudan.


I don't think anyone expects the US to be everywhere. However putting peacekeepers in place requires the top member of the security council to get involved and push for it. The US has not even tried to do that. Nor have the other members - who I hold equally accountable. Which is to say - I have a few fingers pointing on this issue, including at our own government. Even though we haven't the manpower right now to contribute much what with our ongoing commitment in Kabul, Haiti, as well as our other UN missions - our government should at least be doing some pushing on this issue.


As to where the African countries might be, in some cases they are having their own dificulties right now, and in other cases - they might just be following their laws and waiting for a mandate from the UN. Or do you think that Kenya is about to invade the Sudan unilateraly in order to stop the war? No? Me either. Unlike the US - who can pretty much waltz into any country with relative military impunity thanks to their technological advantage - these other countries need to have a mandate and support if they are to have any chance of succes at keeping warring factions apart. After all - it was largely African troops that tried to help out Dallaire in Rwanda, despite getting hamstrung by the security council.

Useless? corrupt? uncaring? Those attributes can be pointed in lots of directions around this world in this instance.

-Z-


And incidentally Salishe, before you bash third world nations for not doing enough under UN mandate, perhaps you should take a look at the current figures of involvement by country: (http://www.un.org/Depts/dpko/dpko/contributors/CountriesSummaryApril2004.pdf)

Most western countries that can afford to help choose not to under the auspices of the UN. And yes - right now I have to include Canada in that list because the bulk of our deployments lately have been either in the Balkans (under the NATO umbrella), or in Afghanistan.

But when people complain that the UN is tootheless, bear in mind that it's because our leaders choose to make it that way by refusing to step to the plate!

Some noteable examples of total personel deployed with UN missions:

USA: 562
UK: 550
Canada: 227
France: 509
Germany:309
Russia: 325

Now let's look at the poor african (and other) countries stepping up to the plate:

Ethiopia: 1,822
Ghana: 2,790
Kenya: 1,826
Mali: 298
Morocco: 858
Namibia: 868
Nepal: 2,290
Niger: 364
Nigeria: 3,398
Senegal: 1,037
South Africa: 1460
Togo: 385
Tunisia: 510
Zambia: 933

All of these countries with enough economic problems of their own that they could reasonably excuse themselves from participation. All of them making all of us look like chumps in this regard. Ethiopia alone contributes more under the UN umbrella than the entire permanent membership of the Security council. ETHIOPIA ! One of the poorest countries in the world.

You can label them all as "useless and corrupt and uncaring" if you like. But the facts sure as hell don't bear you out.

-Z-

How do you become a mod?

I was appointed based on being noticed by the other moderators and I guess for the style in which I post and for having a level head so I hear.. ;)

As a mod, who do you despise most? :lol:

and

Which Canadian Party do you support?

Please don't say me or I'll cry

As a mod, who do you despise most? :lol:

Please don't say me or I'll cry

Hehe, not you. However, as a mod.. I don't think that is a fair question for me to answer.

Sorry, I'm back, Do you ever visit #nationstates_general?

Sorry, I'm back, Do you ever visit #nationstates_general?

I support The Liberal Party of Canada

and...

I use to go.. haven't been in a while though. (re: #ns_g)

Yeah, question for the psychotic Canadian liberal...

I can fly. Wanna see?

Yeah, question for the psychotic Canadian liberal...

I can fly. Wanna see?

No flaming now Slags.. heh ;)

I wanna see!

Can I go out and play with Slag please Steph?

(Want political affiliation are others in your family?)

(Want political affiliation are others in your family?)

Well I was brought up in a rather Liberal household.. However, in Canada we don't register for a party.. we have a truly secret ballot.. so I don't know who they voted for , for sure. My husband & I are both pretty liberal.. socially any way.. I tend to lean a little more to being a fiscal moderate conservative though.

Yeah, question for the psychotic Canadian liberal...

I can fly. Wanna see?

No flaming now Slags.. heh ;)MOD FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hehehe

Yeah, question for the psychotic Canadian liberal...

I can fly. Wanna see?

No flaming now Slags.. heh ;)MOD FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hehehe

So much for all the neo-cons accusing all the mods of being liberals.. :lol:

(Want political affiliation are others in your family?)

Well I was brought up in a rather Liberal household.. However, in Canada we don't register for a party.. we have a truly secret ballot.. so I don't know who they voted for , for sure. My husband & I are both pretty liberal.. socially any way.. I tend to lean a little more to being a fiscal moderate conservative though.

Hey! you forgot two!

We have a six year old boy, which is to say a confirmed anarchist perpetually repressed by the family government in his attempts to have the four major food groups redefined as juice, chocolate, candy, and kraft dinner.

And we have a baby: a member of the Democratic Movement of "Feed me! Change me! Play with me!" attention whores....

:lol:

But we'll make sure that they are brought up to care for their fellow (wo)man, to doubt all statements by career politicians, and to make up their own minds on things..... and that would seem to preclude their ever joining the legions of Rush Limbaugh followers!

:wink:

-Z-

(Want political affiliation are others in your family?)

Well I was brought up in a rather Liberal household.. However, in Canada we don't register for a party.. we have a truly secret ballot.. so I don't know who they voted for , for sure. My husband & I are both pretty liberal.. socially any way.. I tend to lean a little more to being a fiscal moderate conservative though.

Hey! you forgot two!

We have a six year old boy, which is to say a confirmed anarchist perpetually repressed by the family government in his attempts to have the four major food groups redefined as juice, chocolate, candy, and kraft dinner.

And we have a baby: a member of the Democratic Movement of "Feed me! Change me! Play with me!" attention whores....

:lol:

But we'll make sure that they are brought up to care for their fellow (wo)man, to doubt all statements by career politicians, and to make up their own minds on things..... and that would seem to preclude their ever joining the legions of Rush Limbaugh followers!

:wink:

-Z-Family politics and political prisioners.

So if your children moved to America and joined the Republicans you wouldn't mind? :shock:

So if your children moved to America and joined the Republicans you wouldn't mind? :shock:

If that is the worst thing they ever do in their life.... I can live with it!

:lol:

Oh this thread lived.. haha, who'd a thunk it.

Ok, well seems I have a lot of questions to answer. I will try to get to them all..

I'll even try to do them in order.. :lol:

First one to TRA:

Question:if Bush allows another 911 type assault on american soil will it help him get re-elected cause of peoples fears or will it backlash against him like it did in Spain?

This would totally work in Bush's favour. The country would again rally around the President just like they did after 9/11, despite at the time his very low numbers , the still disputed election of 2000 and with no clear mandate given to him by the people. Yet, they rallied and his numbers went through the roof. Judging by the American mentality.. I suspect the same thing would happen again. Of course Bush would instill so much fear into the average American again that they would be too afraid to vote for any one but him. That is what I think.this is scarey then because it would mean that once again Bush has a strong motive to allow another major terrorist attack

:lol:

It is a cute baby, if that really is a picture of it, in whereever it was. :?

Don't you think your babies cute Steph, dontcha. :lol:

Yeah, question for the psychotic Canadian liberal...

I can fly. Wanna see?

No flaming now Slags.. heh ;)

STOP DUCKING THE ISSUE!

I CAN FLY! WANNA SEE!?

Yeah, question for the psychotic Canadian liberal...

I can fly. Wanna see?

No flaming now Slags.. heh ;)

STOP DUCKING THE ISSUE!

I CAN FLY! WANNA SEE!?

I can't wait.. fly.. fly... fly... :D

:lol:

It is a cute baby, if that really is a picture of it, in whereever it was. :?

Don't you think your babies cute Steph, dontcha. :lol:

This is our most current pic posted of our daughter "Holly"

http://members.rogers.com/zeppo_marx/images/lj2004/wookies.jpg

and this is our son Jacob (but we call him Jake)

http://members.rogers.com/zeppo_marx/images/lj2004/sitballs.jpg

and yes, I make fabulous babies.. :)

That is SO cool :D
Or should I say "they"? :P

Will the NS forums ever be as fast as every other site?

and...Will you ever answer my telegram? :(

Yes! They will hopefully speed up when we move to Jolt.. I don't always answer my telegrams.. I get too many of them. Sorry.

Ok, then i'll ask what I said in the telegram. What are all of Cuneo Island's puppets. I think we have a right to know, to prevent any further lies. :wink:

Will the NS forums ever be as fast as every other site?

and...Will you ever answer my telegram? :(

Yes! They will hopefully speed up when we move to Jolt.. I don't always answer my telegrams.. I get too many of them. Sorry.

Ok, then i'll ask what I said in the telegram. What are all of Cuneo Island's puppets. I think we have a right to know, to prevent any further lies. :wink:

As a mod I can not give out that information. I can expose puppets of people who use them to try and trick people or who use them to agree with themselves in threads. People who use puppets to fool people (other then in regional politics) I can expose. I, however, see no reason atm to expose who Cuneo's puppets are or aren't, unless you can show me a reason that I should.

Is there a Stephistan Appreciation Club?
Can I join? :D

The best way people can show "appreciation" to any of the moderators is to just follow the rules.. that's all we want. We ask no more then that. :)

But she does like it a lot if people send me money...

Is there a Stephistan Appreciation Club?
Can I join? :D

The best way people can show "appreciation" to any of the moderators is to just follow the rules.. that's all we want. We ask no more then that. :)

But she does like it a lot if people send me money...

Hahaha, yes, "The Save The Endangered Myrth Fund"..lol

Well the Sudan is another example and one that might interest the US as part of the tragedy there (beside another famine) is that the Arabs are fighting the Black Sudanese...its Islam v Christianity.....

I can only say though that the Congo and Chad makes Rwanda look like a school ground spat...

Salishe - you are right. America is acting for itslef in the most self serving way. Maybe if there is intervention in these places the US might gain back alot of what she has lost in the last 25 years....

But I reiterate...why is the US the only power expected to go off galloping? Why not berate the African Union..over 30 nations that could go into Sudan...Why not the EU..they are closer...both have the capability to send in troops...why not berate India or Australia..why do you expect the US to go off on every tin-pot dictator when the rest of the world sits on their asses?
Perhaps because yours is the only country that drapes pursuit of its national interest in the language of "liberating the oppressed" and being the "beacon of freedom" for the world? Come on, put your jack-boot where your mouth is and "democratise" a country that has neither oil, nor affects Israel in any way, nor threatens to swamp y'all with refugees.

Well the Sudan is another example and one that might interest the US as part of the tragedy there (beside another famine) is that the Arabs are fighting the Black Sudanese...its Islam v Christianity.....

I can only say though that the Congo and Chad makes Rwanda look like a school ground spat...

Salishe - you are right. America is acting for itslef in the most self serving way. Maybe if there is intervention in these places the US might gain back alot of what she has lost in the last 25 years....

But I reiterate...why is the US the only power expected to go off galloping? Why not berate the African Union..over 30 nations that could go into Sudan...Why not the EU..they are closer...both have the capability to send in troops...why not berate India or Australia..why do you expect the US to go off on every tin-pot dictator when the rest of the world sits on their asses?
Perhaps because yours is the only country that drapes pursuit of its national interest in the language of "liberating the oppressed" and being the "beacon of freedom" for the world? Come on, put your jack-boot where your mouth is and "democratise" a country that has neither oil, nor affects Israel in any way, nor threatens to swamp y'all with refugees.

I just want to comment that the quote above was nothing I personally said.. , some one messed up their quote tags ;)

Well the Sudan is another example and one that might interest the US as part of the tragedy there (beside another famine) is that the Arabs are fighting the Black Sudanese...its Islam v Christianity.....

I can only say though that the Congo and Chad makes Rwanda look like a school ground spat...

Salishe - you are right. America is acting for itslef in the most self serving way. Maybe if there is intervention in these places the US might gain back alot of what she has lost in the last 25 years....

But I reiterate...why is the US the only power expected to go off galloping? Why not berate the African Union..over 30 nations that could go into Sudan...Why not the EU..they are closer...both have the capability to send in troops...why not berate India or Australia..why do you expect the US to go off on every tin-pot dictator when the rest of the world sits on their asses?
Perhaps because yours is the only country that drapes pursuit of its national interest in the language of "liberating the oppressed" and being the "beacon of freedom" for the world? Come on, put your jack-boot where your mouth is and "democratise" a country that has neither oil, nor affects Israel in any way, nor threatens to swamp y'all with refugees.

I just want to comment that the quote above was nothing I personally said.. , some one messed up their quote tags ;)
My apologies. -- I was a bit careless correcting incomplete tags in Salishe's post.
Setting the record straight: the quote attributed to Stephistan properly belongs to Vonners.

Well the Sudan is another example and one that might interest the US as part of the tragedy there (beside another famine) is that the Arabs are fighting the Black Sudanese...its Islam v Christianity.....

I can only say though that the Congo and Chad makes Rwanda look like a school ground spat...

Salishe - you are right. America is acting for itslef in the most self serving way. Maybe if there is intervention in these places the US might gain back alot of what she has lost in the last 25 years....

But I reiterate...why is the US the only power expected to go off galloping? Why not berate the African Union..over 30 nations that could go into Sudan...Why not the EU..they are closer...both have the capability to send in troops...why not berate India or Australia..why do you expect the US to go off on every tin-pot dictator when the rest of the world sits on their asses?
Perhaps because yours is the only country that drapes pursuit of its national interest in the language of "liberating the oppressed" and being the "beacon of freedom" for the world? Come on, put your jack-boot where your mouth is and "democratise" a country that has neither oil, nor affects Israel in any way, nor threatens to swamp y'all with refugees.

I just want to comment that the quote above was nothing I personally said.. , some one messed up their quote tags ;)
My apologies. -- I was a bit careless correcting incomplete tags in Salishe's post.
Setting the record straight: the quote attributed to Stephistan properly belongs to Vonners.

Yes, that is my understanding as well. Thanks!

Another question...why, oh why, Delila!

Another question...why, oh why, Delila!

Did I mention I never said I would make an effort to answer stupid questions.. but in your case I made a speical effort.. :P

Yeah, question for the psychotic Canadian liberal...

I can fly. Wanna see?

No flaming now Slags.. heh ;)

STOP DUCKING THE ISSUE!

I CAN FLY! WANNA SEE!?

Ducking the Issue??

hmmm ok...well I am at a mates house for the wekend.

Tonight I am gonna cook dinner.

I have a duck. What would you do to it to cook it.

and yes, I make fabulous babies.. :)

Sure take all the credit. :lol:

and yes, I make fabulous babies.. :)

Sure take all the credit. :lol:


I'll gladly give her all the credit! the more you see of what a woman goes through to make a baby - the more you feel the need to call your mom and apologize.

Of course - they make us pay for it by going insane for a couple of months and having us repaint the house... but that is still getting off easy imho.

-Z-

Another question...why, oh why, Delila!

Did I mention I never said I would make an effort to answer stupid questions.. but in your case I made a speical effort.. :P

Thank you. :P

Serious question though, what did you name your baby in the end? And are you aware that your baby became a member on FUA?

Steph How do you get your Hair so Shiny, and Silky and managable.

Also It smells good.

Another question...why, oh why, Delila!

Did I mention I never said I would make an effort to answer stupid questions.. but in your case I made a speical effort.. :P

Thank you. :P

Serious question though, what did you name your baby in the end? And are you aware that your baby became a member on FUA?

You mean this baby? (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=hollystan)

It's nice to see you are planning for her NS future.

Will the NS forums ever be as fast as every other site?

and...Will you ever answer my telegram? :(

Yes! They will hopefully speed up when we move to Jolt.. I don't always answer my telegrams.. I get too many of them. Sorry.

Ok, then i'll ask what I said in the telegram. What are all of Cuneo Island's puppets. I think we have a right to know, to prevent any further lies. :wink:

As a mod I can not give out that information. I can expose puppets of people who use them to try and trick people or who use them to agree with themselves in threads. People who use puppets to fool people (other then in regional politics) I can expose. I, however, see no reason atm to expose who Cuneo's puppets are or aren't, unless you can show me a reason that I should.

Well, I've been telegramming Angelic Peoples. And it would be kindof weird if that was his puppet. Can you just tell me that one?

Grrr. You missed mine.

HI Steph...

How's motherhood?

Bump so Steph can answer everyones questions.

Bump so Steph can answer everyones questions.

you mean your question :D

Bump so Steph can answer everyones questions.

you mean your question :D

You saw right through me.

Why are people so into people's personal lives and figuring out if they are liars. Is it some sort of game?

Why are people so into people's personal lives and figuring out if they are liars. Is it some sort of game?

Sorry Cuneo, but i'm a curious little bugger.

Another question...why, oh why, Delila!

Did I mention I never said I would make an effort to answer stupid questions.. but in your case I made a speical effort.. :P

Thank you. :P

Serious question though, what did you name your baby in the end? And are you aware that your baby became a member on FUA?

You mean this baby? (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=hollystan)Aw, thats SOOO sweet! Are you gonna save that for her til she gets old enough to play? :lol: :lol:

Why have the mods started DEATing people without warnings?

Why have the mods started DEATing people without warnings?

We don't. It depends on what the person did.. if it's serious enough, they don't get a warning.. most people get lots of warnings though before deleted.

Why have the mods started DEATing people without warnings?

We don't. It depends on what the person did.. if it's serious enough, they don't get a warning.. most people get lots of warnings though before deleted. Actually I only have one instance to site, so I apologize if I made it sound like this is a regular occurrence. Foxxinnia recieved a warning for flooding from The SLAGlands just about a day after he was founded. He was recently deleted without being given any sort of warning. I saw his last few posts, and they were nothing different from his usual material. I just would like an explanation for his deletion and the lack of a warning.

When will the war in the Congo and Chad finish and how?

I'm not a magic 8 ball.. :lol:

I think that fighting has went on and off now for a very long time.. and because they have nothing on any 1st world nation.. it will keep going.. till some one like Bono tries to bring as much awareness to it that some thing is done.. Remember Rwanda.. :?

I'm glad you mentioned Rwanda - Hutu militia residing in Chad are enganged in banditry against the local populace...

That entire region as suffered something like 4 million dead....not casualties.... but dead.....this is death on the scale of Cambodia....

There have been atrocious things done to people....a 9 year old girl who was crying because her father was being tortured had one eye popped and the other had molten plastic poured on it...

Anther girl aged 15 had a pistol inserted in her vangina and the weapon was discharged...

A 4 year old boy was found on a battlefield shot dead...the child had a weapon in his hands....

and this is nothing.

Now if we apply the logic of the need to remove dictators and other 'evil' why is there no US/Euro presence in that region?

the sad thing about those four million dead is that that's more than the entire population of Chad (at least as of 1999, lol that's the most recent info I have, haha, kinda sad, huh?)

Is Steph just ignoring this thread now?

When will the war in the Congo and Chad finish and how?

I'm not a magic 8 ball.. :lol:

I think that fighting has went on and off now for a very long time.. and because they have nothing on any 1st world nation.. it will keep going.. till some one like Bono tries to bring as much awareness to it that some thing is done.. Remember Rwanda.. :?

I'm glad you mentioned Rwanda - Hutu militia residing in Chad are enganged in banditry against the local populace...

That entire region as suffered something like 4 million dead....not casualties.... but dead.....this is death on the scale of Cambodia....

There have been atrocious things done to people....a 9 year old girl who was crying because her father was being tortured had one eye popped and the other had molten plastic poured on it...

Anther girl aged 15 had a pistol inserted in her vangina and the weapon was discharged...

A 4 year old boy was found on a battlefield shot dead...the child had a weapon in his hands....

and this is nothing.

Now if we apply the logic of the need to remove dictators and other 'evil' why is there no US/Euro presence in that region?

the sad thing about those four million dead is that that's more than the entire population of Chad (at least as of 1999, lol that's the most recent info I have, haha, kinda sad, huh?)
Heh-heh, Chad's population is 7.5 mln, but, yeah, whoever thinks there's a Hutu milisha (I love this word!) in Chad is horribly confuzzled :lol:

I Require HairCare Tips!!!

How long till Joltification?

Why do you think NS is less fun than it used to be? :?

Why do you think NS is less fun than it used to be? :?

Cough*Server*Cough :lol:

Cough*Server*Cough :lol:

Little phlegm there? :lol:

Cough*Server*Cough :lol:

Little phlegm there? :lol:

Yes, excuse me...*Cough*The new issues are crap and i've caught the dismissing disease*Cough* Man, I should go see a doctor. :lol:

this is a chat thread which under the rules posted by the MODS is illegal. SO as far as I can tell this does not belong here, It should be on IRC and furthermore, If it is here does that mean its ok for me to start a chat thread too? that wont get deleated?

FOR some reason I dont think so :roll:

Wow major Ignorance there. There are like 3 other of these threads that have been started and they hanv'nt been locked. But they also arent as popular.

this is a chat thread which under the rules posted by the MODS is illegal. SO as far as I can tell this does not belong here, It should be on IRC and furthermore, If it is here does that mean its ok for me to start a chat thread too? that wont get deleated?

FOR some reason I dont think so :roll:

Since when are chat threads illegal? Stupid word game threads are, but actual conversations and debates are rather the point of why we're all here isn't it?

Ok Steph!

Where is my Rawanda comment! ;)

Ok coffee drinker or tea?

What type of drink? :P