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Go here and watch. (http://www.fahrenheit911.com/trailer/)

It'll be released on June 25, and I'm already looking into buying advance tickets.

What, is Truffaut not good enough for you kids today?

Yes I want to see this... definitely. I might not agree with all of it but its sure to be worth the few bucks and the time.

That trailer isn't very good though. Disjointed and odd and I wouldn't go see it except that I've heard other things about it.

fine..... betray your country

fine..... betray your countryWhere's the smiley? You're supposed to put a smiley after a comment like that, unless you're just an asshole or something.

fine..... betray your country

lol, who are you talking to?

Oh man, President Bush is one of the funniest guys ever.

I loved the end of the trailer with the "hey, watch this drive." That man has a comedy goldmine.

But I'd never see the movie in a million years. No, make that a quintillion years.

fine..... betray your country

lol, who are you talking to?

the hell do you think im talking to?

Be nice, it isn't really that hard.

Go here and watch. (http://www.fahrenheit911.com/trailer/)

It'll be released on June 25, and I'm already looking into buying advance tickets.
It is going to be released in the US? By Miramax or another distributor?

Should be a very informative movie. I am looking forward to seeing it.

Lion's Gate is the distributor, and I imagine they stand to make a load of cash from the deal, as do the Weinsteins. It's scheduled to open June 25.

I'm in two minds about Mike Moore.

On the one hand I agree with alot of what he's got to say, but on the other he's innacurate in alot of areas, where he really should be 100% correct in the facts.

I'll see the film (I enjoyed BFC).

Oh and BTW Greater Valia, I'm from oz, alot of these ppl are from other nations. And I don't see how seing a film is tantamount to treason.... of course I'm no expert on american law, but I seem to remember something about the 1st ammendment....

For reference, is it just me or does Michael Moore sound like Peter from Family Guy? Just a thought.

It looks entertaining enough... I wonder how much the facts are streched though...

It looks entertaining enough... I wonder how much the facts are streched though...
as stretched as Michael Moore himself

Thus far, the early reviews I've read haven't picked any details apart. I'm sure that someone will come up with something, but everything I've heard thus far jibes with what I've read in the media over the last 3 years.

fine..... betray your country

lol, who are you talking to?

the hell do you think im talking to?

Learn how to write in proper English then come back and we'll talk.

I saw it today, I wasn't impressed.

Who gives a crap if there's an anti-Bush video out there? It's a waste of creative energy.

Lion's Gate is the distributor, and I imagine they stand to make a load of cash from the deal, as do the Weinsteins. It's scheduled to open June 25.

*makes a note of the name and adds it to the list*

Exactly what kind of list are you making there, New Auburnland? Hmmm?

"You can make people do anything if they're afraid"

Even go see an inflammatory, pseudo-documentary made by an insane hack out to get a few bucks.

You know--I keep hearing these attacks on Moore, and he does come in for some criticism because he's exaggerated in BFC and Roger and Me--but thus far no one--not even the early screeners at Cannes--has come out and complained about a single point of fact in this film. It's all personal attacks.

That says to me that opponents are scared of this film, not because it's full of lies, but because it isn't.

You know--I keep hearing these attacks on Moore, and he does come in for some criticism because he's exaggerated in BFC and Roger and Me--but thus far no one--not even the early screeners at Cannes--has come out and complained about a single point of fact in this film. It's all personal attacks.

That says to me that opponents are scared of this film, not because it's full of lies, but because it isn't.

http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html

Surely you've seen that by now.

fine..... betray your country

All tyranny needs to take foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.

and

Enlighten the people generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like evil spirits at the dawn of day.

Thomas Jefferson >>>>> Greater Valia

Michael Moore doesn't betray his country. He may be the last true American left. Sheeple such as you betray this country, GV.

You know--I keep hearing these attacks on Moore, and he does come in for some criticism because he's exaggerated in BFC and Roger and Me--but thus far no one--not even the early screeners at Cannes--has come out and complained about a single point of fact in this film. It's all personal attacks.

That says to me that opponents are scared of this film, not because it's full of lies, but because it isn't.

http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html

Surely you've seen that by now.

Oo, I can post links too!

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/wackoattacko/

You know--I keep hearing these attacks on Moore, and he does come in for some criticism because he's exaggerated in BFC and Roger and Me--but thus far no one--not even the early screeners at Cannes--has come out and complained about a single point of fact in this film. It's all personal attacks.

That says to me that opponents are scared of this film, not because it's full of lies, but because it isn't.

http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html

Surely you've seen that by now.And that link has exactly what to do with Fahrenheit 9/11? I thought so.

People like Micheal Moore and Micheal Savage are both "trolls" in real life. Too bad so many people take them seriously.

Well, Kwangi, if it's such pointless drivel, then why is everyone so hot in the buscuit to make sure it's not seen?

Well, Kwangi, if it's such pointless drivel, then why is everyone so hot in the buscuit to make sure it's not seen?

Well, Kwangi, if it's such pointless drivel, then why is everyone so hot in the buscuit to make sure it's not seen?

You know--I keep hearing these attacks on Moore, and he does come in for some criticism because he's exaggerated in BFC and Roger and Me--but thus far no one--not even the early screeners at Cannes--has come out and complained about a single point of fact in this film. It's all personal attacks.

That says to me that opponents are scared of this film, not because it's full of lies, but because it isn't.

http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html

Surely you've seen that by now.And that link has exactly what to do with Fahrenheit 9/11? I thought so.

Sorry, I misunderstood what you were saying.

Sorry, I misunderstood what you were saying.No problem. Sorry I was snarky there.

I don't even have to watch it to know that I'm going to hate it, I hate that guy.

So nine people think I'm a commie, huh? Oh well--viewers still outpace non-viewers.

Can't seem to play it. :cry:

Yeah, I'll go see it!

Well, today was the first day it was supposed to be available--it was available last night and their servers got creamed, so you can imagine what happened to them today. We all know what happens to overloaded servers, don't we. :lol:

fine..... betray your country

Too late; Bush and his zombies beat me to it.

Well, today was the first day it was supposed to be available--it was available last night and their servers got creamed, so you can imagine what happened to them today. We all know what happens to overloaded servers, don't we. :lol:


i vote NS as having one of the worst overloaded servers on the entire planet

its good this movie is coming out before the election so people can see what a terrorist Bush really is

You know--I keep hearing these attacks on Moore, and he does come in for some criticism because he's exaggerated in BFC and Roger and Me--but thus far no one--not even the early screeners at Cannes--has come out and complained about a single point of fact in this film. It's all personal attacks.

That says to me that opponents are scared of this film, not because it's full of lies, but because it isn't.

http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html

Surely you've seen that by now.

Oo, I can post links too!

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/wackoattacko/

good link Berk, very informative.

i vote NS as having one of the worst overloaded servers on the entire planet
Hehe, there are PCs out there with more RAM than the forum server. :lol:

i vote NS as having one of the worst overloaded servers on the entire planet
Hehe, there are PCs out there with more RAM than the forum server. :lol:
practically anything that has RAM has more of it than this server

what's it about?

Go watch the trailer and see. :lol:

mike moore sux.
<---- not a republican.

mike moore sux.
<---- not a republican.

high five!

if you think you will like Moore's film, you really need to check this (http://www.protestwarrior.com/video/wolverines_trailer/video_download.html) out.

You know--I keep hearing these attacks on Moore, and he does come in for some criticism because he's exaggerated in BFC and Roger and Me--but thus far no one--not even the early screeners at Cannes--has come out and complained about a single point of fact in this film. It's all personal attacks.

That says to me that opponents are scared of this film, not because it's full of lies, but because it isn't.

What's more.. (no pun intended) if there were huge gaps that could be seen as outright lies.. don't you think the right has it in for Michael Moore? It's not like they don't have the money. See, what he does may not be in order of the way it happened.. He's trying to make a point.. using clips of all things that HAVE happened. You know there are many conspiracy theory sites out there. The man is just making a movie from his perspective.. Just think how wonderful the world would be if you put as much time in finding the lies in a Moore movie as you could put into your own government.

However, if Michael Moore was outright lying.. he'd still be in court fending off being sued for BFC. It is America after all. I think that speaks volumes..

I agree with you, Stephistan. It's similar to the lack of factual attack thrown against Paul O'Neill and Richard Clarke (I know Zepp has issues with Clarke, but hear me out) when their books came out last year. Both books had to be vetted by the White House and neither was attacked on any factual ground--it was all personal attacks against the men themselves. Why? Because they've got nothing. Same thing here with Moore, I think, unless they're just holding their fire for some reason.

I agree with you, Stephistan. It's similar to the lack of factual attack thrown against Paul O'Neill and Richard Clarke (I know Zepp has issues with Clarke, but hear me out) when their books came out last year. Both books had to be vetted by the White House and neither was attacked on any factual ground--it was all personal attacks against the men themselves. Why? Because they've got nothing. Same thing here with Moore, I think, unless they're just holding their fire for some reason.

Well, Kwangi, if it's such pointless drivel, then why is everyone so hot in the buscuit to make sure it's not seen?

No clue. It would be rather pointless anyway, as most of the people who actually believe Micheal Moore would have had their positions regardless or whether he was around or not, so its pointless to really go "OMFG DON'T SEE MICHEAL MOORE" as some people do.

Well, Kwangi, if it's such pointless drivel, then why is everyone so hot in the buscuit to make sure it's not seen?

No clue. It would be rather pointless anyway, as most of the people who actually believe Micheal Moore would have had their positions regardless or whether he was around or not, so its pointless to really go "OMFG DON'T SEE MICHEAL MOORE" as some people do.

But Kwangistar, the film's been out for months now, and no one has attacked it factually--what's the holdup? It took NRA supporters less than a week to "debunk" Bowling for Columbine. Why is it that every attack on this film isn't on the film, but is on Moore himself? Is it because he's got this one right and they've got nothing to attack him on? What is it?

Like Larry Flynt, Michael Moore, Is a great american patriot who should be revered

But Kwangistar, the film's been out for months now, and no one has attacked it factually--what's the holdup? It took NRA supporters less than a week to "debunk" Bowling for Columbine. Why is it that every attack on this film isn't on the film, but is on Moore himself? Is it because he's got this one right and they've got nothing to attack him on? What is it?

I dunno. I myself haven't seen the movie, its not even out at the local theater. As far as I know, it was only recently shown at Cannes, meaning that it hasn't been opened to the general public - yet. People attacking the movie F 9/11 by attacking Moore aren't right, at least if they use definitive language. (Saying that it is something rather than it is likely something.) My guess is the reason it hasn't been attacked factually is that those who would attack it factually would wait till its released openly to do so.

It opens in the US June 25, but I guess my point is that it was seen at Cannes, and contrary to popular belief, not everyone there loved it, evn though it won the Palme D'Or, so I would have thought that if there was something bogus about it, it would have come out already--there would be whispers at least. And yet, nothing.

To be honest, pretty much everything that's in the trailer is stuff I've read about already and known for a while. I'd be willing to bet that the powerful thing about this movie isn't what it informs people about--it's the way the timeline will come together that puts everything that's happened in the last 3 years into prespective.

I want to see this movie. I don't agree with Michael Moore's views, but I find it very refreshing to hear a decently well formulated opinion from a view other than my own.

If you are against what he says (which I am), I think that's all the more reason to watch it. How were you planning to refute what someone else that watches that film says if you don't know anything about it yourself?

Bowling for Columbine was an excellent movie, although I disagree with him, as I am pro-guns.

I will most likely disagree with the vast majority of this Farenheit 9/11 (except the Patriot Act, for that one reason alone it would be enough for me to hate the Bush administration... even though that's not the only reason), but it should be interesting, and I will make it a point to go see it. I'm assuming it will be released in Canada, since Canada usually gets all of America's movies.

Oh, as a final note, to the guy who thinks Michael Moore sounds like Peter on Family Guy, I agree with you :)

It opens in the US June 25, but I guess my point is that it was seen at Cannes, and contrary to popular belief, not everyone there loved it, evn though it won the Palme D'Or, so I would have thought that if there was something bogus about it, it would have come out already--there would be whispers at least. And yet, nothing.

To be honest, pretty much everything that's in the trailer is stuff I've read about already and known for a while. I'd be willing to bet that the powerful thing about this movie isn't what it informs people about--it's the way the timeline will come together that puts everything that's happened in the last 3 years into prespective.Michael Moore is the john the Baptist of our times