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I recieved an E-mail forwarded by many, then to my sister, then to me. I, of course, forwarded it to what little addresses I had. However, I will now show the Message of the E-mail to you:

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Samuel Thompson wrote:

I don't believe in Santa Claus, but I'm not going to sue somebody for singing a Ho-Ho-Ho song in December.

I don't agree with Darwin, but I didn't go out and hire a lawyer when my high school teacher taught his theory of evolution.

Life, liberty or your pursuit of happiness will not be endangered because someone says a 30-second prayer before a football game. So what's the big deal? It's not like somebody is up there reading the entire book of Acts. They're just talking to a God they believe in and asking him to grant safety to the players on the field and the fans going home from the game. "But it's a Christian prayer," some will argue. Yes, and this is the United States of America, a country founded on Christian principles. And we are in the Bible Belt. According to our very own phone book, Christian churches outnumber all others better than 200-to-1. So what would you expect-somebody chanting Hare Krishna?

If I went to a football game in Jerusalem, I would expect to hear a Jewish prayer.

If I went to a soccer game in Baghdad, I would expect to hear a Muslim prayer.

If I went to a ping pong match in China, I would expect to hear someone pray to Buddha.

And I wouldn't be offended. It wouldn't bother me one bit. When in Rome...

"But what about the atheists?" is another argument. What about them? Nobody is asking them to be baptized. We're not going to pass the collection plate. Just humor us for 30 seconds. If that's asking too much, bring a Walkman or a pair of ear plugs. Go to the bathroom. Visit the concession stand. Call your lawyer. Unfortunately, one or two will make that call. One or two will tell thousands what they can and cannot do. I don't think a short prayer at a football game is going to shake the world's foundations.

Christians are just sick and tired of turning the other cheek while our courts strip us of all our rights. Our parents and grandparents taught us to pray before eating, to pray before we go to sleep. Our Bible tells us just to pray without ceasing. Now a handful of people and their lawyers are telling us to cease praying. God, help us. And if that last sentence offends you, well..........just sue me..

The silent majority has been silent too long.. It's time we let that one or two who scream loud enough to be heard, that the vast majority don't care what they want.. it is time the majority rules!

It's time we tell them, you don't have to pray.. you don't have to say the pledge of allegiance, you don't have to believe in God or attend services that honor Him. That is your right, and we will honor your right.. but by golly you are no longer going to take our rights away .. we are fighting back.. and we WILL WIN! After all the God you have the right to denounce is on our side!

God bless us one and all, especially those who denounce Him..

God bless America, despite all her faults.. still the greatest nation of all.....

God bless our service men who are fighting to protect our right to pray and worship God...

May 2004 be the year the silent majority is heard and we put God back as the foundation of our families and institutions.

Keep looking up.... In God WE Trust


If you agree with this, please pass it on. If not, delete it!!

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This is no attack against Extremist Athiests, Extremists Anti-Christians, just a Peaceful Message of Warn about how you have purposly gone beyound the line many times, and how our cheeks are already red with slaps. Still, not even these actions can stop our Words from being heard, nothing can stop our Beliefs, nothing can stop our God.

For, you see, we are Peaceful, allowed not harm to those by the Law's set forth by Lord God Almighty, for it would be for us to succum to the evil already taking over many of this World if we did bring forth harm.

Yet, you will never win. I assure you, no Victory but God's Victory, and if one or many or a few shall come from your actions, then Let God's Will be Done.

So far, God's Will is being done, and always shall. Continue with your attacks, Extremists whom dislike Christanity. We still welcome you with open arms. For Our God is Real, and MANY OF YOU have already experienced Warnings from Him that you ignore or deny.

Just keep on, please, we invite you, for our Silence to your attempts to restrain our Prayers to Lord God have not gone unnoticed, by us nor by Lord God Almighty.

For, no harm from us to you, only Freidnship from us to you. :)

Let Lord God's Supreme and Almighty Will be Done, for our will is puny to His.

P.S.

Just in case some of you try to assault this message, let me say that no Christian is allowed to send forth Punishment of Falsness or Truth, only allowed Lord God to send such.

This means, in short, we cannot do harm to you, for we would be going lower than you have ever gone Extremists.

Nice letter

One could say the opposite.

That the country is far too religeous and far too repressive against the Atheists. Atheists have virtually no chance of being elected President. They are without power.

One could say the opposite.

That the country is far too religeous and far too repressive against the Atheists. Atheists have virtually no chance of being elected President. They are without power.


You just keep thinking that. :wink:

well that pretty much sums up what I've been thinking and trying to say for the last few years.

I recieved an E-mail forwarded by many, then to my sister, then to me. I, of course, forwarded it to what little addresses I had. However, I will now show the Message of the E-mail to you:

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i say bring it on! :D

God bless America, despite all her faults.. still the greatest nation of all.....


Yeah sure America the greatest nation you just keep thinking that...


God bless our service men who are fighting to protect our right to pray and worship God...

You mean their fighting against another riligion for oil in a place they shouldn't be. iraq, how are they fighting for your rights to protect and worship god. I don't she hordes of people standing outside a church having to be held of by armed men as they try to burn it down.


are May 2004 be the year the silent majority is heard and we put God back as the foundation of our families and institutions.
But surly if you put it back at the foundations of Athest famillys and instutions that athests use then thats discrimination.

I recieved an E-mail forwarded by many, then to my sister, then to me. I, of course, forwarded it to what little addresses I had. However, I will now show the Message of the E-mail to you:

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i say bring it on! :D
Agreed.

God bless America, despite all her faults.. still the greatest nation of all.....


Yeah sure America the greatest nation you just keep thinking that...


God bless our service men who are fighting to protect our right to pray and worship God...

You mean their fighting against another riligion for oil in a place they shouldn't be. iraq, how are they fighting for your rights to protect and worship god. I don't she hordes of people standing outside a church having to be held of by armed men as they try to burn it down.


are May 2004 be the year the silent majority is heard and we put God back as the foundation of our families and institutions.
But surly if you put it back at the foundations of Athest famillys and instutions that athests use then thats discrimination.


You must not be thinking clearly, take a nap.

God bless America, despite all her faults.. still the greatest nation of all.....


Yeah sure America the greatest nation you just keep thinking that...


God bless our service men who are fighting to protect our right to pray and worship God...

You mean their fighting against another riligion for oil in a place they shouldn't be. iraq, how are they fighting for your rights to protect and worship god. I don't she hordes of people standing outside a church having to be held of by armed men as they try to burn it down.


are May 2004 be the year the silent majority is heard and we put God back as the foundation of our families and institutions.
But surly if you put it back at the foundations of Athest famillys and instutions that athests use then thats discrimination.


now i do not admit to meing the grammar nazi, but wtf? whats an athest? and whats riligion? lol :lol:

God bless America, despite all her faults.. still the greatest nation of all.....


Yeah sure America the greatest nation you just keep thinking that...


God bless our service men who are fighting to protect our right to pray and worship God...

You mean their fighting against another riligion for oil in a place they shouldn't be. iraq, how are they fighting for your rights to protect and worship god. I don't she hordes of people standing outside a church having to be held of by armed men as they try to burn it down.


are May 2004 be the year the silent majority is heard and we put God back as the foundation of our families and institutions.
But surly if you put it back at the foundations of Athest famillys and instutions that athests use then thats discrimination.


now i do not admit to meing the grammar nazi, but wtf? whats an athest? and whats riligion? lol :lol:

and what is meing? :lol:

God bless America, despite all her faults.. still the greatest nation of all.....


Yeah sure America the greatest nation you just keep thinking that...


God bless our service men who are fighting to protect our right to pray and worship God...

You mean their fighting against another riligion for oil in a place they shouldn't be. iraq, how are they fighting for your rights to protect and worship god. I don't she hordes of people standing outside a church having to be held of by armed men as they try to burn it down.


are May 2004 be the year the silent majority is heard and we put God back as the foundation of our families and institutions.
But surly if you put it back at the foundations of Athest famillys and instutions that athests use then thats discrimination.


now i do not admit to meing the grammar nazi, but wtf? whats an athest? and whats riligion? lol :lol:

and what is meing? :lol:

hoisted on my own petard! :D

I'm Dislexic okay. God, I thought everyone knew that by now, yes, what does mening mean.

I'm Dislexic okay. God, I thought everyone knew that by now, yes, what does mening mean.

ive never heard of you. but isnt dislexia where you read backwards?

I'm Dislexic okay. God, I thought everyone knew that by now, yes, what does mening mean.

ive never heard of you. but isnt dislexia where you read backwards?

Dyslexia (n): A term used to describe a condition in which an individual with normal vision is unable to properly interpret written language. Dyslexia is more common in males and is often first recognised as a reading difficulty in the first grade. Individuals can see and recognise letters but are unable to spell and write words. They have no impairment of object or picture identification. Dyslexia is not related to intelligence and in fact several famous scholars were thought to be dyslexic (for example Albert Einstein, Thomas Edison). The exact cause of dyslexia is unknown.

As for the letter... it's fine to be free to practice and express your own religion, just don't force it on others, like having "under God" in the Pledge, religious paraphanelia on public buildings etc.

I'm Dislexic okay. God, I thought everyone knew that by now, yes, what does mening mean.

ive never heard of you. but isnt dislexia where you read backwards?

Dyslexia (n): A term used to describe a condition in which an individual with normal vision is unable to properly interpret written language. Dyslexia is more common in males and is often first recognised as a reading difficulty in the first grade. Individuals can see and recognise letters but are unable to spell and write words. They have no impairment of object or picture identification. Dyslexia is not related to intelligence and in fact several famous scholars were thought to be dyslexic (for example Albert Einstein, Thomas Edison). The exact cause of dyslexia is unknown.

As for the letter... it's fine to be free to practice and express your own religion, just don't force it on others, like having "under God" in the Pledge, religious paraphanelia on public buildings etc.

:roll:

I'm Dislexic okay. God, I thought everyone knew that by now, yes, what does mening mean.

ive never heard of you. but isnt dislexia where you read backwards?

Dyslexia (n): A term used to describe a condition in which an individual with normal vision is unable to properly interpret written language. Dyslexia is more common in males and is often first recognised as a reading difficulty in the first grade. Individuals can see and recognise letters but are unable to spell and write words. They have no impairment of object or picture identification. Dyslexia is not related to intelligence and in fact several famous scholars were thought to be dyslexic (for example Albert Einstein, Thomas Edison). The exact cause of dyslexia is unknown.

As for the letter... it's fine to be free to practice and express your own religion, just don't force it on others, like having "under God" in the Pledge, religious paraphanelia on public buildings etc.

:roll:

Nice comeback. What was that supposed to mean, anyway?

I'm Dislexic okay. God, I thought everyone knew that by now, yes, what does mening mean.

ive never heard of you. but isnt dislexia where you read backwards?

Dyslexia (n): A term used to describe a condition in which an individual with normal vision is unable to properly interpret written language. Dyslexia is more common in males and is often first recognised as a reading difficulty in the first grade. Individuals can see and recognise letters but are unable to spell and write words. They have no impairment of object or picture identification. Dyslexia is not related to intelligence and in fact several famous scholars were thought to be dyslexic (for example Albert Einstein, Thomas Edison). The exact cause of dyslexia is unknown.

As for the letter... it's fine to be free to practice and express your own religion, just don't force it on others, like having "under God" in the Pledge, religious paraphanelia on public buildings etc.

:roll:

Nice comeback. What was that supposed to mean, anyway?

i dunno....... its just the way you talk about it its like its something to be despised and loathed

I'm Dislexic okay. God, I thought everyone knew that by now, yes, what does mening mean.

ive never heard of you. but isnt dislexia where you read backwards?

Dyslexia (n): A term used to describe a condition in which an individual with normal vision is unable to properly interpret written language. Dyslexia is more common in males and is often first recognised as a reading difficulty in the first grade. Individuals can see and recognise letters but are unable to spell and write words. They have no impairment of object or picture identification. Dyslexia is not related to intelligence and in fact several famous scholars were thought to be dyslexic (for example Albert Einstein, Thomas Edison). The exact cause of dyslexia is unknown.

As for the letter... it's fine to be free to practice and express your own religion, just don't force it on others, like having "under God" in the Pledge, religious paraphanelia on public buildings etc.

:roll:

Nice comeback. What was that supposed to mean, anyway?

i dunno....... its just the way you talk about it its like its something to be despised and loathed

Geez, it's just a word (albeit slightly misspelled, I believe, but then spelling skills have never been a prerequisite on this forum). Try reading a few books, then maybe you can use big words, too. :wink:

I'm Dislexic okay. God, I thought everyone knew that by now, yes, what does mening mean.

ive never heard of you. but isnt dislexia where you read backwards?

Dyslexia (n): A term used to describe a condition in which an individual with normal vision is unable to properly interpret written language. Dyslexia is more common in males and is often first recognised as a reading difficulty in the first grade. Individuals can see and recognise letters but are unable to spell and write words. They have no impairment of object or picture identification. Dyslexia is not related to intelligence and in fact several famous scholars were thought to be dyslexic (for example Albert Einstein, Thomas Edison). The exact cause of dyslexia is unknown.

As for the letter... it's fine to be free to practice and express your own religion, just don't force it on others, like having "under God" in the Pledge, religious paraphanelia on public buildings etc.

:roll:

Nice comeback. What was that supposed to mean, anyway?

i dunno....... its just the way you talk about it its like its something to be despised and loathed

Geez, it's just a word (albeit slightly misspelled, I believe, but then spelling skills have never been a prerequisite on this forum). Try reading a few books, then maybe you can use big words, too. :wink:

was attacking my personal character really called for?

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And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. St. Matthew Chapters 6:5-6

Feel free to pray - in private.

(And, BTW I am Buddhist, I live in Japan, and I would be worried to hear anyone "pray" to Buddha anywhere, much less in public...)

I'm Dislexic okay. God, I thought everyone knew that by now, yes, what does mening mean.

ive never heard of you. but isnt dislexia where you read backwards?

Dyslexia (n): A term used to describe a condition in which an individual with normal vision is unable to properly interpret written language. Dyslexia is more common in males and is often first recognised as a reading difficulty in the first grade. Individuals can see and recognise letters but are unable to spell and write words. They have no impairment of object or picture identification. Dyslexia is not related to intelligence and in fact several famous scholars were thought to be dyslexic (for example Albert Einstein, Thomas Edison). The exact cause of dyslexia is unknown.

As for the letter... it's fine to be free to practice and express your own religion, just don't force it on others, like having "under God" in the Pledge, religious paraphanelia on public buildings etc.

:roll:

Nice comeback. What was that supposed to mean, anyway?

i dunno....... its just the way you talk about it its like its something to be despised and loathed

Geez, it's just a word (albeit slightly misspelled, I believe, but then spelling skills have never been a prerequisite on this forum). Try reading a few books, then maybe you can use big words, too. :wink:

was attacking my personal character really called for?

No, but it was fun. (j/k) :lol:

Apologies. Sometimes I just can't help myself...

I'm Dislexic okay. God, I thought everyone knew that by now, yes, what does mening mean.

ive never heard of you. but isnt dislexia where you read backwards?

Dyslexia (n): A term used to describe a condition in which an individual with normal vision is unable to properly interpret written language. Dyslexia is more common in males and is often first recognised as a reading difficulty in the first grade. Individuals can see and recognise letters but are unable to spell and write words. They have no impairment of object or picture identification. Dyslexia is not related to intelligence and in fact several famous scholars were thought to be dyslexic (for example Albert Einstein, Thomas Edison). The exact cause of dyslexia is unknown.

As for the letter... it's fine to be free to practice and express your own religion, just don't force it on others, like having "under God" in the Pledge, religious paraphanelia on public buildings etc.

:roll:

Nice comeback. What was that supposed to mean, anyway?

i dunno....... its just the way you talk about it its like its something to be despised and loathed

Geez, it's just a word (albeit slightly misspelled, I believe, but then spelling skills have never been a prerequisite on this forum). Try reading a few books, then maybe you can use big words, too. :wink:

was attacking my personal character really called for?

No, but it was fun. (j/k) :lol:

Apologies. Sometimes I just can't help myself...

your cheekyness does not ammuse me in the slightest

Now, I don't live in America, but I must express doubt that
1. US Christianity is under threat
2. US Christians are mostly peaceful

God bless America, despite all her faults.. still the greatest nation of all.....


Yeah sure America the greatest nation you just keep thinking that...


God bless our service men who are fighting to protect our right to pray and worship God...

You mean their fighting against another riligion for oil in a place they shouldn't be. iraq, how are they fighting for your rights to protect and worship god. I don't she hordes of people standing outside a church having to be held of by armed men as they try to burn it down.


are May 2004 be the year the silent majority is heard and we put God back as the foundation of our families and institutions.
But surly if you put it back at the foundations of Athest famillys and instutions that athests use then thats discrimination.


You must not be thinking clearly, take a nap.

That'll teach them. :roll:

Now, I don't live in America, but I must express doubt that
1. US Christianity is under threat
2. US Christians are mostly peaceful


i must express doubt that

1. snobish foreigners know anything about american christianity
:roll:

Now, I don't live in America, but I must express doubt that
1. US Christianity is under threat
2. US Christians are mostly peaceful


i must express doubt that

1. snobish foreigners know anything about american christianity

:roll:

Strong arguments.

Seeing as everyone else is doing it :roll: :roll: :roll:

Really helping your point their, say all foregners are snobbish, yep, I live in a farm in yorkshire, very snobbish.

Seeing as everyone else is doing it :roll: :roll: :roll:

Really helping your point their, say all foregners are snobbish, yep, I live in a farm in yorkshire, very snobbish.

bah! arent all foreigners snobish? (this applies to everyone in the world)

EDIT: not just americans, but no matter where you live

Now, I don't live in America, but I must express doubt that
1. US Christianity is under threat
2. US Christians are mostly peaceful


i must express doubt that

1. snobish foreigners know anything about american christianity

:roll:

Strong arguments.

m'kay...... and?

Wow… tangents. I should begin by saying that I am an American Christian. That way everyone is clear that I am neither a foreigner that is somehow unworthy of discussing the grand old USA, nor an atheist bound and determined to destroy people’s ability to pray (that’s wrought with sarcasm, in case that wasn’t clear—it bugs me that people express the opinion here that only American Christians can or should discuss American Christianity.) That said, I have a few things to say:
1. American Christianity is not being threatened by anyone but those inside its ranks. It is immorality that causes the weak of faith to leave the churches, and that creates secularism. Let us remember that few and far between are the immigrants that came to our country godless, especially compared to those that through lapsed faith became such.
2. Praying is a God-given right, but praying out loud for all to hear at a secular event is not. If everyone would like to pray before the football game that’s fine. If people don’t want to have to be a part of that that don’t believe in God, or simply have different beliefs in God, that’s okay. This country was not founded in Christianity. It was founded on Unitarianism, which doesn’t necessarily even believe that God exists (although many of its members do, or at least did at the time.) The U.S. is a theist nation whose morality comes out of Judeo-Christian heritage. That doesn’t give anyone the right to subject non-believers to open acts of prayer.
3. Furthermore, an appeal to the majority doesn’t justify anything. Just because there are more Christians than other faiths doesn’t mean that the many have privilege beyond the few. Our laws state that all are equal in the eyes of the nation, which means should one person be offended by what is said they have recourse to complain about it.
I’m sorry to say it, because I believe that prayer is a good and healthy thing, but public prayer (at least in the case of people being non-voluntarily subjected to prayer) is a violation of the rights of non-believers.

Couple more comments about the end of the letter:
Greatest nation is certainly subjective, and shows a great deal of ethnocentrism. Why is America the greatest nation? Her poor still starve in the streets, she cannot conduct elections whose results are not tampered with, and she forces her will upon the rest of the world by force. Furthermore, our service men and women are not fighting for our ability to pray in public. Perhaps the writer of the email has forgotten why we went to Iraq, but it was because our government was convinced that the Iraqi regime had “weapons of mass destruction” (which they did not) and posed an imminent threat (which now seems unlikely). This seems to already be revisionist history. In truth, our God-loving president LIED to us and the world (which, as I recall, is a big no-no in the 10 commandments). I really do hope that America is converted to a deeper faith in all that is good and right. I really hope our leaders especially are converted to goodness, not greed and want for power. I’d love to see prayer end the evils of abortion, euthanasia, and capital punishment. Keep praying. But don’t try to force your faith upon others. This is, after all, a secular nation based on the ideal of freedom, and your freedom to exercise your faith ends when it conflicts with the freedom of atheists to not be subjected to prayer.
I’m sorry I can’t support the cause, my Christian friends. God bless all of you that believe in him nonetheless.

Wow… tangents. I should begin by saying that I am an American Christian. That way everyone is clear that I am neither a foreigner that is somehow unworthy of discussing the grand old USA, nor an atheist bound and determined to destroy people’s ability to pray (that’s wrought with sarcasm, in case that wasn’t clear—it bugs me that people express the opinion here that only American Christians can or should discuss American Christianity.) That said, I have a few things to say:
1. American Christianity is not being threatened by anyone but those inside its ranks. It is immorality that causes the weak of faith to leave the churches, and that creates secularism. Let us remember that few and far between are the immigrants that came to our country godless, especially compared to those that through lapsed faith became such.
2. Praying is a God-given right, but praying out loud for all to hear at a secular event is not. If everyone would like to pray before the football game that’s fine. If people don’t want to have to be a part of that that don’t believe in God, or simply have different beliefs in God, that’s okay. This country was not founded in Christianity. It was founded on Unitarianism, which doesn’t necessarily even believe that God exists (although many of its members do, or at least did at the time.) The U.S. is a theist nation whose morality comes out of Judeo-Christian heritage. That doesn’t give anyone the right to subject non-believers to open acts of prayer.
3. Furthermore, an appeal to the majority doesn’t justify anything. Just because there are more Christians than other faiths doesn’t mean that the many have privilege beyond the few. Our laws state that all are equal in the eyes of the nation, which means should one person be offended by what is said they have recourse to complain about it.
I’m sorry to say it, because I believe that prayer is a good and healthy thing, but public prayer (at least in the case of people being non-voluntarily subjected to prayer) is a violation of the rights of non-believers.

Well, here's an interesting paradox....
I am an athiest. Have been for years. I am not bothered at all by a prayer before a sporting event, high school graduation, etc.
I even bow my head out of respect for the other peole around me!
It doesn't hurt me in the least. I even think the practice should remain in
place until the majority of Americans become atheists!

I like your arguments, Ancona. You show that not all Christians are bad or narrow-minded people (I've known this for a while, now, but to have it shown is better still).

I have no problem with people praying to a deity, but it doesn't need to be a massive public intercession, surely? Can not the individual just pray in their own heads?
I'm no Christian - more an ecclectic who borrows from a variety of tradiitions - I'm looking into strands of Buddhism at present - and tries to see the similarities between them all. I don't like the idea of religious devisiveness, nor do I like the idea of using something that is intended for the betterment of humanity as a political tool.

I, too, note that, from what I've seen from the outside of your country - yeah, I'm a foreigner, but NO I'm not a snob. In fact, that perception cuts BOTH ways, and it can be erroneous both ways, too. The amount of American tourists I've "heard before I've seen", as it were, even though it's 200 metres away, just amazes me! :lol: but back to the topic - that it appears to be harder to become president if you're not Christian.

One could say the opposite.

That the country is far too religeous and far too repressive against the Atheists. Atheists have virtually no chance of being elected President. They are without power.
The country is repressive against atheists? How so? If the people don't want an atheist as President, that is their democratic choice, but is there anything in the Constitution that prevents an atheist from becoming the President?

Thank you for posting this. I will send it to people I know.

One could say the opposite.

That the country is far too religeous and far too repressive against the Atheists. Atheists have virtually no chance of being elected President. They are without power.
The country is repressive against atheists? How so? If the people don't want an atheist as President, that is their democratic choice, but is there anything in the Constitution that prevents an atheist from becoming the President?I agree with Lozia. We are seeing a classic case of tyranny by majority, and that's the only reason there have only been white male christians in the oval office.

I hate the bigotry of you people. We ought to have our own voice!

One could say the opposite.

That the country is far too religeous and far too repressive against the Atheists. Atheists have virtually no chance of being elected President. They are without power.
The country is repressive against atheists? How so? If the people don't want an atheist as President, that is their democratic choice, but is there anything in the Constitution that prevents an atheist from becoming the President?I agree with Lozia. We are seeing a classic case of tyranny by majority, and that's the only reason there have only been white male christians in the oval office.

I hate the bigotry of you people. We ought to have our own voice!Uh, how is it a fair democratic system if it isn't a majority vote? You act like you are the only ones whose rights are being infringed on. Perhaps it's beyond your comprehension to understand that:
>Maybe we don't agree with the theory of evolution.
>Perhaps we do believe in something more important than self-indulgence and materialism.
>It's possible to dislike (excuse me: HATE) to turn on the TV and to be bombarded with "Temptation Island", "Howard Stern", and various History Channel programs with conspiracy theorists saying the Bible was written by little green men.

Get the point? You may think that there is nothing after life and that you have to get all your kicks in before you die, but some of us (excuse me: most of us) disagree.

One could say the opposite.

That the country is far too religeous and far too repressive against the Atheists. Atheists have virtually no chance of being elected President. They are without power.
The country is repressive against atheists? How so? If the people don't want an atheist as President, that is their democratic choice, but is there anything in the Constitution that prevents an atheist from becoming the President?I agree with Lozia. We are seeing a classic case of tyranny by majority, and that's the only reason there have only been white male christians in the oval office.

I hate the bigotry of you people. We ought to have our own voice!Uh, how is it a fair democratic system if it isn't a majority vote? You act like you are the only ones whose rights are being infringed on. Perhaps it's beyond your comprehension to understand that:
>Maybe we don't agree with the theory of evolution.
>Perhaps we do believe in something more important than self-indulgence and materialism.
>It's possible to dislike (excuse me: HATE) to turn on the TV and to be bombarded with "Temptation Island", "Howard Stern", and various History Channel programs with conspiracy theorists saying the Bible was written by little green men.

Get the point? You may think that there is nothing after life and that you have to get all your kicks in before you die, but some of us (excuse me: most of us) disagree.ARE YOU PHUCKING FOLLOWING ME!?!

One could say the opposite.

That the country is far too religeous and far too repressive against the Atheists. Atheists have virtually no chance of being elected President. They are without power.
The country is repressive against atheists? How so? If the people don't want an atheist as President, that is their democratic choice, but is there anything in the Constitution that prevents an atheist from becoming the President?I agree with Lozia. We are seeing a classic case of tyranny by majority, and that's the only reason there have only been white male christians in the oval office.

I hate the bigotry of you people. We ought to have our own voice!

you are funny

I agree with Lozia. We are seeing a classic case of tyranny by majority, and that's the only reason there have only been white male christians in the oval office.

I hate the bigotry of you people. We ought to have our own voice!Uh, how is it a fair democratic system if it isn't a majority vote?

a 'representative democratic' system that isn't representative is not democratic either. if you are going to have representatives, then they should roughly be representative of the population as a whole - at least on average. otherwise you just have a sham democracy.

You act like you are the only ones whose rights are being infringed on. Perhaps it's beyond your comprehension to understand that:
>Maybe we don't agree with the theory of evolution.

the theory of evolution isn't the sort of thing that can be reasonably disagreed on. disagreeing with the theory of evolution just makes you ignorant, stupid, or a liar.

*puzzled look at the screen*

the guy seemed kinda over the top upset about football game prayers.

i dont get it, but then ive never been much on football

no one is taking away anyones right to pray, read the bible, go to church, believe in god. that would just be wrong. and unamerican

i dont see why you need governments blessing on your beliefs. that is in essence what youre talking about, if the state doesnt reinforce your belief that god cares about who wins a football game by sponsoring a prayer at that game, somehow your belief is diminished?

if the some self-aggrandizing judge is forced to remove a monument to the 10 commandments that he spent tax money to build and erect, then somehow your own faith is put into question?

if we took "in god we trust" off our money, you would stop trusting god? why would you ever want the government to decide how you believe? how shallow IS your faith that you need the goverment to reinforce it at every turn??

One could say the opposite.

That the country is far too religeous and far too repressive against the Atheists. Atheists have virtually no chance of being elected President. They are without power.
The country is repressive against atheists? How so? If the people don't want an atheist as President, that is their democratic choice, but is there anything in the Constitution that prevents an atheist from becoming the President?I agree with Lozia. We are seeing a classic case of tyranny by majority, and that's the only reason there have only been white male christians in the oval office.

I hate the bigotry of you people. We ought to have our own voice!
Please explain how I am a bigot?

I wouldn't have a problem seeing a female as President. pray tell me though, what is wrong with white male Christians?

Who is being a bigot? You?

What tryanny?

You choose to be an atheist, deal with it.

do people even realize there are people trying to reinstitute the slavery of women and other things in the bible, including advocating KILLING anyone who doesn't agree and secretly taking over the government to do so? christian reconstructionists? its not a conspiracy theory folks, its real and they're closer than you'd think: http://www.religioustolerance.org/reconstr.htm

i wouldn't have as much of a problem saying prayers to someone else's God is it just wasn't so incredibly negative and constantly being forced on everyone else that god is a man, jesus is the only savior, do like we say or at best you'll suffer in hell for eternity and at worst we'll kill you outright.

this country was founded on ideals of religious tolerance and there is NO REASON why any SPECIFIC god should be publicly evoked in mixed religious company like school, courts, games, etc... when something much more inclusive such as "your higher power" could be said. NONE. keep your god to your self.


">Perhaps we do believe in something more important than self-indulgence and materialism.
>It's possible to dislike (excuse me: HATE) to turn on the TV and to be bombarded with "Temptation Island", "Howard Stern", and various History Channel programs with conspiracy theorists saying the Bible was written by little green men"

Christians aren't the only ones that believe in something more than self-indulgence. They most definitely have not cornered the market on morality, puh-lease. CLEARLY with all of the priests raping kids and unnecessary wars being fought in the name of "God" lots of christians don't really care about being good people. There is such a thing as moral atheism, principled atheism...people who do good just for the sake of doing it because its the right thing to do and not because someone in authority told them to. Furthermore, there are a lot of other religions besides Christianity that you must admit are just as equally possible of being true and believe in other things besides materialism etc. Plenty of atheists and people from other religions don't like turning on the tv cause of all the wack crap that's on there too. And plenty of christians love the junk on tv.