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Who would Jesus Bomb?

Gods Bowels
01-06-2004, 18:12
I saw this bumper sticker and liked it right away.

Made me wonder what the Christians for the war thought about it.

So you Christians for the war... what do you think about that statement?
Berkylvania
01-06-2004, 18:18
I'm sorry, while this is amusing in a blasphemous way, I still vote for:

WWJD: What Would Jenna Drink?
Letila
01-06-2004, 18:28
Kenkopia
01-06-2004, 18:29
That's just silly. Theoretically if you were a good christian, and followed the example of Jesus, then you wouldn't really bomb anyone, would you?
Free Soviets
01-06-2004, 18:30
jesus would bomb dirty foreigners that refused to speak english
Letila
01-06-2004, 18:32
For Star Trek fans it's: What Would Janeway Do?

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Free Soviets
01-06-2004, 18:37
Stirner
01-06-2004, 23:15
Who would Allah bomb?
Gods Bowels
03-06-2004, 19:03
thats what I'm saying.... Bush says he is Christian right? but then he decides to bomb and kill people? is he really following his christian values by goign to war right?
Lunatic Goofballs
03-06-2004, 19:13
Who would Allah bomb?

Malls and busses, apparently. :?
Ahkmaros
03-06-2004, 19:20
No-one. As far as i can see, from the example of Jesus and all the early Christians, all Christians (i'm not one) should be complete pacifists. The early Christians (as far as i know) didn't try and undermine the Roman empire, even though it was killing them off. So, if Christians are attacked, they shouldn't respond, just lay down and take it (like Jesus- sort of), their going to heaven anyway. Also "blessed are the cheese makers."

This is why the Christian right talks rubbish-they often take their arguments from the old testament (eye for an eye etc) which is really Jewish-and should have less weight than the new testament (which is about their messiah).

To deviate slightly from the point, and to pick up on Stirner's point, the concept of the Jihad is too frequently taken the wrong way. A jihad is a purely defensive concept designed (presumably) to stop mass persecution of Muslims. Muslim rules of war declare women, children, all clergy and trees to be non-combatents (i.e. shouldn't be attacked). The problem is that Islam has no central figure, which means the extremists can just declare one.
Greyenivol Colony
03-06-2004, 19:23
Who would Allah bomb?

Allah has no physical form so i think He'd have trouble with the targetting and such.

i feel sorry for jesus, he's probably rolling in his grave at the state of some of his followers, i mean, he never asked to have a religion..
Machiavellian Dream
03-06-2004, 19:23
To deviate slightly from the point, and to pick up on Stirner's point, the concept of the Jihad is too frequently taken the wrong way. A jihad is a purely defensive concept designed (presumably) to stop mass persecution of Muslims. Muslim rules of war declare women, children, all clergy and trees to be non-combatents (i.e. shouldn't be attacked). The problem is that Islam has no central figure, which means the extremists can just declare one.

Current Jihads are in violation of Islamic law for only a direct descendant of Mohammed who possesses Mohammed's sword can initiate a Jihad.
Eutoria
03-06-2004, 19:31
Jesus died so we could live without worrying about going to Hell so much.

If Jesus saw our people being slaughtered by others, He would be saddened greatly. He would also understand our need to defend ourselves. He might not pick up the gun Himself, but He would not damn us for doing so.

If Jesus saw other people being oppressed and tortured by their ruler, He would be saddened greatly. He would also understand our desire to bring those people freedom. He might not pick up the gun Himself, but He would not damn us for doing so.

I think that those who do not follow Jesus should not comment on what He would do, because though none of us really know, those who follow Him might have a better idea.
Machiavellian Dream
03-06-2004, 19:35
I think that those who do not follow Jesus should not comment on what He would do, because though none of us really know, those who follow Him might have a better idea.

But if we cannot be allowed to determine 'what Jesus would do', then all the wars in His name have been in vain, in falsehood.
Doomduckistan
03-06-2004, 19:38
This depends-

Is Jesus God?
If so, are we talking about NT God or OT God? The Old Testament God I can see letting us bomb people in his name- NT? Nah. New Testament God is mostly a pacifist.
If not, then as NT God.
Insane Troll
03-06-2004, 19:40
Jesus would bomb the infidels!!!

Take that, infidels!
New Genoa
04-06-2004, 01:44
Barbara Streissand
The Atheists Reality
04-06-2004, 01:47
most certainly people like me :shock:
Laskin Yahoos
04-06-2004, 01:49
Jesus would finish what Daddy started: smite all sodomizers! :wink:
Eridanus
04-06-2004, 01:49
Ahhh that's lame. I like "OOPS my Karma ran over your Dogma!" so much better.
Berkylvania
04-06-2004, 01:59
Given the Christian church's fixation with wine being the blood of Christ and such, I think the better question is:

Who Would Jesus Get Bombed With?

The answer is, of course, Jenna Bush and Paris Hilton, cause every savior of man needs a couple of cheap floozies hanging on his arm to give him street cred.
Tactical Grace
04-06-2004, 04:24
Given the Christian church's fixation with wine being the blood of Christ and such, I think the better question is:

Who Would Jesus Get Bombed With?

The answer is, of course, Jenna Bush and Paris Hilton, cause every savior of man needs a couple of cheap floozies hanging on his arm to give him street cred.
:lol: Oh man, that made my day! :lol:
Summania
04-06-2004, 04:45
Gods Bowels
04-06-2004, 16:06
I love the "My Karma ran over your Dogma" sticker!

Still, I would love to hear Shrub answer the question of "who would Jesus bomb?", but then again with all the mindless following of his words, maybe I don't.
04-06-2004, 16:12
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Eli
04-06-2004, 16:17
for starting this thread



Bombs Away.
San haiti
04-06-2004, 16:22
Jesus died so we could live without worrying about going to Hell so much.

If Jesus saw our people being slaughtered by others, He would be saddened greatly. He would also understand our need to defend ourselves. He might not pick up the gun Himself, but He would not damn us for doing so.

If Jesus saw other people being oppressed and tortured by their ruler, He would be saddened greatly. He would also understand our desire to bring those people freedom. He might not pick up the gun Himself, but He would not damn us for doing so.

I think that those who do not follow Jesus should not comment on what He would do, because though none of us really know, those who follow Him might have a better idea.
Hey, which part of "thou shalt not kill" dont you understand? There isnt a big asterisk next to it with a note saying "unless you really really want to, and make sure you confess it all in the morning.".

Also "turn the other cheek", if you get attacked, dont fight back, thats the whole point.

Not being a christian myself, i've always wondered how right wing christians hold the two ideas in their head without any indications of a contradiction and without becoming schizophrenic.
San haiti
04-06-2004, 16:22
Jesus died so we could live without worrying about going to Hell so much.

If Jesus saw our people being slaughtered by others, He would be saddened greatly. He would also understand our need to defend ourselves. He might not pick up the gun Himself, but He would not damn us for doing so.

If Jesus saw other people being oppressed and tortured by their ruler, He would be saddened greatly. He would also understand our desire to bring those people freedom. He might not pick up the gun Himself, but He would not damn us for doing so.

I think that those who do not follow Jesus should not comment on what He would do, because though none of us really know, those who follow Him might have a better idea.
Hey, which part of "thou shalt not kill" dont you understand? There isnt a big asterisk next to it with a note saying "unless you really really want to, and make sure you confess it all in the morning.".

Also "turn the other cheek", if you get attacked, dont fight back, I thought that was the whole point.

Not being a christian myself, i've always wondered how right wing christians hold the two ideas in their head without any indications of a contradiction and without becoming schizophrenic.
No-Dachi Yo
04-06-2004, 16:27
Jesus died so we could live without worrying about going to Hell so much.

If Jesus saw our people being slaughtered by others, He would be saddened greatly. He would also understand our need to defend ourselves. He might not pick up the gun Himself, but He would not damn us for doing so.

If Jesus saw other people being oppressed and tortured by their ruler, He would be saddened greatly. He would also understand our desire to bring those people freedom. He might not pick up the gun Himself, but He would not damn us for doing so.

I think that those who do not follow Jesus should not comment on what He would do, because though none of us really know, those who follow Him might have a better idea.
Hey, which part of "thou shalt not kill" dont you understand? There isnt a big asterisk next to it with a note saying "unless you really really want to, and make sure you confess it all in the morning.".

Also "turn the other cheek", if you get attacked, dont fight back, thats the whole point.

Not being a christian myself, i've always wondered how right wing christians hold the two ideas in their head without any indications of a contradiction and without becoming schizophrenic.

As it will contradict thier lust for power and wealth of course. You really think that those princples apply when it means an increase in power over others. Anyways, they aren't the ones doing the killing - they have thier "soldiers" to do that for them.

Their morals are subjective and fluid to suit thier own needs, just as all should be. And I am not talking just cons here - i mean liberals, commies, fascists - i mean, think what you like, but by God do not question us or the laws and morals we set as boundaries for you.
No-Dachi Yo
04-06-2004, 16:29
Filamai
04-06-2004, 16:50
I think that those who do not follow Jesus should not comment on what He would do, because though none of us really know, those who follow Him might have a better idea.

But if we cannot be allowed to determine 'what Jesus would do', then all the wars in His name have been in vain, in falsehood.

But every one of them was.
Eutoria
04-06-2004, 18:18
Jesus died so we could live without worrying about going to Hell so much.

If Jesus saw our people being slaughtered by others, He would be saddened greatly. He would also understand our need to defend ourselves. He might not pick up the gun Himself, but He would not damn us for doing so.

If Jesus saw other people being oppressed and tortured by their ruler, He would be saddened greatly. He would also understand our desire to bring those people freedom. He might not pick up the gun Himself, but He would not damn us for doing so.

I think that those who do not follow Jesus should not comment on what He would do, because though none of us really know, those who follow Him might have a better idea.
Hey, which part of "thou shalt not kill" dont you understand? There isnt a big asterisk next to it with a note saying "unless you really really want to, and make sure you confess it all in the morning.".

Also "turn the other cheek", if you get attacked, dont fight back, I thought that was the whole point.

Not being a christian myself, i've always wondered how right wing christians hold the two ideas in their head without any indications of a contradiction and without becoming schizophrenic.

Thou shalt not kill is in the first testament, along with "eye for an eye".


Also, guys, Christianity didn't start the wars. Christianity was used as an excuse to start the wars.
Misalignment
04-06-2004, 18:33
to get back to the bumpersticker thing I was always a big fan of "My other car is a POS too"
SparrowKap
04-06-2004, 20:01
My current favorite is "I love to fart."