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If/When scientists discover the actual mathematic/scientific principle which created the universe:

Do you think some bizzare cult will spring up worshipping this as 'God'?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :?

Of course. And within the equation or whatever, they'll undoubtedly find a biblical phrase, and use that as "proof".

If/When scientists discover the actual mathematic/scientific principle which created the universe:

Do you think some bizzare cult will spring up worshipping this as 'God'?

This would be a lot less bizarre than most of the other cults out there who worship their imaginary friends. I guess it really depends on what you define a "god" to be, and whether it is worthy of worship.

If you determine that your god is the cause of the Universe and you will worship it regardless of what it is, your logically bound to worship whatever principle we eventually discover to be this cause.

If/When scientists discover the actual mathematic/scientific principle which created the universe:

Do you think some bizzare cult will spring up worshipping this as 'God'?

first of all: science will probably never be able to 'discover' such a principle as in order to 'discover' this principle they would need empirical data from before the universe was created or from outside the universe, which is by definition impossible.

secondly: scientists never discover things, they develop theories that try to describe certain parts the world. if you let a scientist 'discover' things then that would mean the scientists suddenly found a theory that holds absolute truth, which is believed to be impossible in modern philosophy. the idea that scientists merely discovered the laws of nature has been abandoned by philosophy in the 19th century i think.

and last remark: There are allready enough nutcasses out there that try to give god a place in science.

Physical laws only exist within the universe. To create the universe they'd have to exist outside it. The universe just is. Causation isn't a relevent concept. I don't see how anything could "cause" it. It doesn't help to say god caused it because the theist has the same problem when you ask "what created god?"

Interesting ponderance.

I think if/when science might prove the creation of the Univerise, people will worship that as "God," just as anyone would worship God. It's all in a matter of "proof" for some people; however, you'd still have your religious sect of those believing in the Biblical God and those believing in the scientific God.

i, for certain, will not worship mortal mongrels.

Physical laws only exist within the universe. To create the universe they'd have to exist outside it. The universe just is. Causation isn't a relevent concept. I don't see how anything could "cause" it. It doesn't help to say god caused it because the theist has the same problem when you ask "what created god?"

Sort of wrong, sort of right.

There are theories that are supported by (a very small amount of) evidence that there are things outside our universe and how those things caused the universe as we know it to come into place.

Sort of wrong, sort of right.

There are theories that are supported by (a very small amount of) evidence that there are things outside our universe and how those things caused the universe as we know it to come into place.

Not to mention the fact that, as we further our understanding of our universe through quantum mechanics, evidence for multiple universes coexisting either in tandem or unique structures becomes more explicit. Therefore, to say that there is "nothing outside of our universe" is becoming less and less popular all the time.

However, this doesn't rule out the existance of God or continuation, as both of these concepts, by definition, opperate parallel to physical existance.