NationStates Jolt Archive


Christians Galore...

Catholic Europe
31-05-2004, 10:07
Well, we know that there are a lot of Christians on this site and, relating to a suggestion in another thread, I thought I'd make a poll to see how many of each type of domination there are.

N.B: As the poll only allows for very few options, and there are plenty of churches in Christianity, if your Church is not a poll option either choose the one most close to is or post what your denomination is.
Ryanania
31-05-2004, 10:08
I don't affiliate myself with a denomination, but I'll say Baptist, just because the first Church I went to was Baptist.
Catholic Europe
31-05-2004, 10:09
I don't affiliate myself with a denomination, but I'll say Baptist, just because the first Church I went to was Baptist.
Would you say that you were Christian?
NewXmen
31-05-2004, 10:15
Me I’m Buddhist, but leaning toward Christian Transhumanist. Once we work out what a Christian Transhumanist is.

http://www.transhumanism.org/index.php/WTA/more/2004/04/03/
Catholic Europe
31-05-2004, 10:15
Me I’m Buddhist, but leaning toward Christian Transhumanist. Once we work out what a Christian Transhumanist is.

http://www.transhumanism.org/index.php/WTA/more/2004/04/03/

Never heard of that denomination.
Greater Valia
31-05-2004, 10:18
maybe because its some newage cult or something.... anyways, im a southern methodist, but i have been to lots of churches (one was catholic)
Minotorpio
31-05-2004, 10:21
Me? I'm aethiest. Meh.
Catholic Europe
31-05-2004, 10:22
maybe because its some newage cult or something.... anyways, im a southern methodist, but i have been to lots of churches (one was catholic)

I take it you chose Methodist then.
Greater Valia
31-05-2004, 10:24
maybe because its some newage cult or something.... anyways, im a southern methodist, but i have been to lots of churches (one was catholic)

I take it you chose Methodist then.

ya, the catholic church was cool. it was a latin mass and that was neat. i wish i could have video taped it though. (i speak a smattering of latin btw)
Catholic Europe
31-05-2004, 10:26
ya, the catholic church was cool. it was a latin mass and that was neat. i wish i could have video taped it though. (i speak a smattering of latin btw)

Ooh, wow! You went to a traditional Catholic Church and heard Tridentine Mass! Wow! I want to go to one of them.
Conceptualists
31-05-2004, 10:27
maybe because its some newage cult or something.... anyways, im a southern methodist, but i have been to lots of churches (one was catholic)

I take it you chose Methodist then.

ya, the catholic church was cool. it was a latin mass and that was neat. i wish i could have video taped it though. (i speak a smattering of latin btw)

Well the Latin that I've heard you profess to know isn't exactly suitable for church.
Greater Valia
31-05-2004, 10:28
ya, the catholic church was cool. it was a latin mass and that was neat. i wish i could have video taped it though. (i speak a smattering of latin btw)

Ooh, wow! You went to a traditional Catholic Church and heard Tridentine Mass! Wow! I want to go to one of them.


yeah, it was a very surreal experience. there were also like 3,000 people there
Conceptualists
31-05-2004, 10:28
ya, the catholic church was cool. it was a latin mass and that was neat. i wish i could have video taped it though. (i speak a smattering of latin btw)

Ooh, wow! You went to a traditional Catholic Church and heard Tridentine Mass! Wow! I want to go to one of them.

Do you live in/near London? There are still a few churchs that do it.
Catholic Europe
31-05-2004, 10:29
yeah, it was a very surreal experience. there were also like 3,000 people there

Yes, a lot of Catholics (particuarly the older generations) were not happy at the loss of Tridentine Mass.

Where was this?
Greater Valia
31-05-2004, 10:29
yeah, it was a very surreal experience. there were also like 3,000 people there

Yes, a lot of Catholics (particuarly the older generations) were not happy at the loss of Tridentine Mass.

Where was this?

Atlanta
Catholic Europe
31-05-2004, 10:30
Atlanta

Ah...okay. Do they have a big Catholic population in Atlanta?
Greater Valia
31-05-2004, 10:32
Atlanta

Ah...okay. Do they have a big Catholic population in Atlanta?

i guess..... i dunno. i went with my freind when i was very young (8 or 9)
Catholic Europe
31-05-2004, 10:33
i guess..... i dunno. i went with my freind when i was very young (8 or 9)

Oh, okay.


Anyway, people vote in the poll!
Greater Valia
31-05-2004, 10:33
i guess..... i dunno. i went with my freind when i was very young (8 or 9)

Oh, okay.


Anyway, people vote in the poll!

do you live in america?
Catholic Europe
31-05-2004, 10:35
do you live in america?

No, I live in London.
Greater Valia
31-05-2004, 10:36
do you live in america?

No, I live in London.

huh, are there lots of catholics there?
Catholic Europe
31-05-2004, 10:38
huh, are there lots of catholics there?

Yes, quite a few.
Rexandale
31-05-2004, 10:40
As an atheist and a thinker, I fail to understand how a religion so divided on the smallest points has any chance of being the true religion.
Conceptualists
31-05-2004, 10:40
huh, are there lots of catholics there?

Yes, quite a few.

There should be a few places for Latin Mass then. Try Farm Street.
Greater Valia
31-05-2004, 10:40
As an atheist and a thinker, I fail to understand how a religion so divided on the smallest points has any chance of being the true religion.

thats what makes us so great!
Catholic Europe
31-05-2004, 10:42
There should be a few places for Latin Mass then. Try Farm Street.
You see the thing is I am 17 and live in Thorton Heath.

Where is Farm Street?
Conceptualists
31-05-2004, 10:45
Conceptualists
31-05-2004, 13:32
There should be a few places for Latin Mass then. Try Farm Street.

You see the thing is I am 17 and live in Thorton Heath.

Where is Farm Street?


I don't live in London, but I have a lot of friends who do (and they like the Latin Mass so go there).

Latin Mass is brilliant, it is so beautiful, and it really doesn't take too long to understand what the words are.

Try here:
http://www.jesuit.org.uk/parishes/farmstreet.htm
Somewhere
31-05-2004, 13:58
For me it's Anglican (Church of England to be precise), but I don't suppose it counts because I only bother going because my parents make me.
Berkylvania
31-05-2004, 19:02
Religious Society of Friends (The Quakers).

We're never on any polls. :cry:
Kwangistar
31-05-2004, 19:06
I'm a Catholic.

I heard a Latin mass when I went to Flordia (Tampa specifically, IIRC).
Berkylvania
31-05-2004, 19:42
As an atheist and a thinker, I fail to understand how a religion so divided on the smallest points has any chance of being the true religion.

How insulting to imply that a theist can not be a thinker! The reason religion is divided is because spirituality is a highly personal endeavor. Everyone has their own conceptions of it and, like snowflakes, no two are ever identical. Religious groups form because of an inherant human need for society and peer groups. The fellowship of those who think close to what you believe far outweighs any minor difference of opinion you may have on particulars. To broadly condemn a school of thought simply because there are multiple interpretations is similar to saying all ice cream must be faulty because some people like chocolate and some people like vanilla.
Promenea
31-05-2004, 22:08
To broadly condemn a school of thought simply because there are multiple interpretations is similar to saying all ice cream must be faulty because some people like chocolate and some people like vanilla.

The problem is that no one claims that chocolate is the one true ice cream. Religion attempts to answer moral and philosophical questions with factual responses, while you are defending it as an opinion.

A man can say, with firm belief and conviction, that his hand is made entirely of custard. Most people would reply, "That's preposterous." However, the instant he says, "Oh, that's my opinion," the reply becomes, "Well, I guess you're entitled to it." A peculiar double standard.

Religion is either fact, in which case it should stand up under scrutiny as such, or opinion, in which case it should stop trying to pass itself off as fact. I'm sorry, but your analogy is flawed.

... Though I doubt it was the creator's intent for his thread to become a debate.
Berkylvania
31-05-2004, 22:30
Berkylvania
31-05-2004, 22:30
Berkylvania
31-05-2004, 22:31
Berkylvania
31-05-2004, 22:31
The problem is that no one claims that chocolate is the one true ice cream. Religion attempts to answer moral and philosophical questions with factual responses, while you are defending it as an opinion.

Of course I defend religion as an opinion. At the end of the day, that's all that can be said in it's defence. I can offer reasons and rationales and what have you, but if one isn't inclined to agree with me, I can't make them. I can not prove the existance of God just as the existance of God can not be proven. Therefore, it all comes down to one's opinion based on one's own spiritual journey.

Additionally, not all religions claim to be the one true "ice cream." While some do, anyone who claims to know the ultimate answer and truth about anything should be viewed with a certain skepticisim.

Religion is the personification of faith, the outward trappings of an inner spiritual quest, nothing more. Faith, in and of itself, does not rest on factualities. It would be nice if it did, if we knew for a fact that God existed and that when we die we continue in some form, but we don't and if we did, what would we need faith for? It's wrong to force an alien criteria on a subject that does not depend upon it, like saying a football player is "out" because he used his hands to hold the ball and didn't run the basis. Religion is highly personal conjecture and the only factual basis it requires is an individual level of comfort.


A man can say, with firm belief and conviction, that his hand is made entirely of custard. Most people would reply, "That's preposterous." However, the instant he says, "Oh, that's my opinion," the reply becomes, "Well, I guess you're entitled to it." A peculiar double standard.

Not a double standard at all. So long as the man doesn't go around saying, "Because my hand is made of custard, bow down to me and follow the custard hand or I will kill you," there doesn't seem to be a problem or a double standard. People can have whatever subjective opinions they wish.


Religion is either fact, in which case it should stand up under scrutiny as such, or opinion, in which case it should stop trying to pass itself off as fact. I'm sorry, but your analogy is flawed.

I agree to an exent. Not that my analogy is flawed, because it still stands. Religion isn't "fact" in the sense of the word we're all most comfortable with. There is no "proof," there is, perhaps, evidence, but not enough to claim religion is scientific law. You seem to have a very narrow concept of religion.
Promenea
31-05-2004, 22:43
I wish private messaging were enabled on this board; I'd like to continue this, but I don't want to draw focus away from the topic at hand. I'll settle for ending the debate before we get too embroiled. Please don't think I'm avoiding your questions.
Catholic Europe
01-06-2004, 08:16
I wish private messaging were enabled on this board; I'd like to continue this, but I don't want to draw focus away from the topic at hand. I'll settle for ending the debate before we get too embroiled. Please don't think I'm avoiding your questions.

Then why don't you just start a new thread on it?!

Anyway, BUMP.
Catholic Europe
01-06-2004, 10:13
BUMP...one last time.
Dragons Bay
01-06-2004, 10:14
Has this thread digressed again?
Catholic Europe
01-06-2004, 10:17
Has this thread digressed again?

Probably.
Catholic Europe
01-06-2004, 10:17
Has this thread digressed again?

Probably.
Macaroni_from_Hell
01-06-2004, 11:19
You left out 'atheist', it's not really near any of the givven options
Catholic Europe
01-06-2004, 11:49
You left out 'atheist', it's not really near any of the givven options

Well, that's because this thread is solely to find out what denominations the Christians of NS belong to.
BelFierste
01-06-2004, 13:37
I went to latin mass in Rome a few years back, and there were literally thousands of people there. It was the feast of All Saints, and there was a huge parade around St. Peter's Square with banners with picture of all the saints on them. It was amazing.
GNU-Linux
01-06-2004, 16:11
You left out 'atheist', it's not really near any of the givven options

Well, that's because this thread is solely to find out what denominations the Christians of NS belong to.

You could have just put a "non-christian" option, (that way non-christians can see the poll results without having to hit "view results".
Catholic Europe
03-06-2004, 16:55
You could have just put a "non-christian" option, (that way non-christians can see the poll results without having to hit "view results".

But then other options wouldn't have been available even though they were directly related to this thread. :?