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Hey World! How Does YOUR Country Fare If USA Is Republican?

Garaj Mahal
31-05-2004, 07:36
Living right next door to the USA, we in Canada often feel a distinct chill in the relationship with our beloved cousins to the south when they go and elect a Republican administration.

Canada is the largest trading-partner the USA has, but Republicans seem to habitually forget that more easily than Democrats do. In decades past we had our squabbles with Democrat administrations too, but ever since Nixon it's nearly always under Republicans that Canada gets the shabbiest treatment.

I'd be happy to mention a few examples should anyone be curious, but first, lets hear opinions on this from NS folks in various parts of the world.

Also, I wonder this: When choosing a President, are Americans obliged to consider what the rest of the world might prefer rather than ONLY their own domestic populace? I think they are. Whomever is elected President of the U.S. affects everybody, so it's a more serious decision than merely a domestic one.

I mean no offence, but when a Republican government is elected it seems to send a loud message of "fuck you" to the rest of the planet. I'm *not* saying that's what Americans intend, but I honestly feel that's what much of the rest of the world hears.

All I'd ask is that the American people - who really *are* mostly good hearted and intelligent people - think of the rest of us during their next presidential election.
31-05-2004, 07:37
woah, like, double topic.
Garaj Mahal
31-05-2004, 07:40
woah, like, double topic.

Eh?
Greater Valia
31-05-2004, 07:42
i hate canada (im serious)
31-05-2004, 07:43
i hate canada (im serious)

me 2, and im seriously serious. french sux.
Greater Valia
31-05-2004, 07:43
the northern menace
Colodia
31-05-2004, 07:44
woah, like, double topic.

Eh?
BEST.CANADIAN.RESPONSE.EVER.

*ahem*

I think it'll affect my country, America, greatly. Wouldn't you think so?
Garaj Mahal
31-05-2004, 07:44
i hate canada (im serious)

What's that got to do with anything?
Colodia
31-05-2004, 07:44
Oh, and the poll makes no sense whatsoever....the answers and question are way off.
31-05-2004, 07:44
woah, like, double topic.

Eh?
BEST.CANADIAN.RESPONSE.EVER.

*ahem*

I think it'll affect my country, America, greatly. Wouldn't you think so?

eh?
The Most Glorious Hack
31-05-2004, 07:46
Also, I wonder this: When choosing a President, are Americans obliged to consider what the rest of the world might prefer rather than ONLY their own domestic populace? I think they are. Whomever is elected President of the U.S. affects everybody, so it's a more serious decision than merely a domestic one.

Not to be hostile, but...

When you elect your Prime Minister (or pick the party that picks the PM, I forget how it works at this hour) do you consider what Americans might think?

For that matter, does any country consider what America (or any other nation) thinks, or do they primarily focus on their own internal best interests?

I'm pretty sure that most people are voting based on domestic concerns over what other countries might think. And I don't really see anything wrong with that. I'm voting for the President of the USA; not Canada. Like most people, my primary concern is what will directly affect me, not other countries.

And pretty much anybody who's honest will say the same thing. It's not egoism or Ameri-centrism, it's human nature.
Garaj Mahal
31-05-2004, 07:48
Oh, and the poll makes no sense whatsoever....the answers and question are way off.

Sorry if it's unclear to you, but it's not meant for Americans anyway, The rest of the world will understand as it's very straightforward.
Colodia
31-05-2004, 07:52
Oh, and the poll makes no sense whatsoever....the answers and question are way off.

Sorry if it's unclear to you, but it's not meant for Americans anyway, The rest of the world will understand as it's very straightforward.
Hope your not trying to suggest something :wink:


Hmm...okay, I get it now. I read it as "It'll be better for the US if the US is Democratic/Republican".... :oops:
AntiPatriot Act Drones
31-05-2004, 07:52
ummm- in case you have not heard the world is global- democartic hell yes!!!!! :D 8)
Greater Valia
31-05-2004, 07:54
ummm- in case you have not heard the world is global- democartic hell yes!!!!! :D 8)


haha, i hope the rest of the world dies of ebola! hell yes!!! uh! :D 8)
AntiPatriot Act Drones
31-05-2004, 07:57
You go down too-- be prepared!!!
Quillaz
31-05-2004, 08:10
Garaj Mahal, which province do you live in? Also, who do you plan to vote for in the upcoming election?
Greater Valia
31-05-2004, 08:11
bah! the NYC police should go annex canada and be done with it!
Quillaz
31-05-2004, 08:12
bah! the NYC police should go annex canada and be done with it!

:shock: ...Did you think before you posted that?
Colodia
31-05-2004, 08:13
bah! the NYC police should go annex canada and be done with it!
Yeah....they could take the whole damn Canadian military, huh?


Canadian soldier: The NYPD are attacking!
Canadian soldier2: eh?
CS: I said, the NYPD are attacking?
CS2: EH?
CS: I sai-*gets shot*
CS2: Eh? *scratches head*


I needed that
Greater Valia
31-05-2004, 08:13
bah! the NYC police should go annex canada and be done with it!

:shock: ...Did you think before you posted that?


yes i did, i did, yes. canadian bacon is teh best movie evar!!!!
Quillaz
31-05-2004, 08:21
Colodia, not all Canadians say "eh?" That like saying all Americans are like George Bush.
Greater Valia
31-05-2004, 08:23
Colodia, not all Canadians say "eh?" That like saying all Americans are like George Bush.


damn northern menace!
Colodia
31-05-2004, 08:23
Colodia, not all Canadians say "eh?" That like saying all Americans are like George Bush.
I know, I can have fun, eh?
Quillaz
31-05-2004, 08:25
Colodia, not all Canadians say "eh?" That like saying all Americans are like George Bush.
I know, I can have fun, eh?

Yes, you may have your fun. As long as you don't decide to invade Iraq while you're at it. :wink:
Quillaz
31-05-2004, 08:26
Colodia, not all Canadians say "eh?" That like saying all Americans are like George Bush.


damn northern menace!

Damn straight!
Greater Valia
31-05-2004, 08:27
Colodia, not all Canadians say "eh?" That like saying all Americans are like George Bush.


damn northern menace!

Damn straight!

wait a sec! you have no army!
Quillaz
31-05-2004, 08:28
wait a sec! you have no army!

But we have the oil. And without the oil, the US will crumble.
Greater Valia
31-05-2004, 08:30
wait a sec! you have no army!

But we have the oil. And without the oil, the US will crumble.

venezuela is our largest oil partner :) and if we wanted it bad enough there would be no canada. (hey, what happened to your military? it was pretty good around WWI)
Quillaz
31-05-2004, 08:33
venezuela is our largest oil partner and if we wanted it bad enough there would be no canada. (hey, what happened to your military? it was pretty good around WWI)

So what you're saying is that if we cut off all of the oil we supply the US, nothing would happen? Oh, by the way, what happened to your democracy? It was pretty good around pre-Bush era.
Greater Valia
31-05-2004, 08:34
venezuela is our largest oil partner and if we wanted it bad enough there would be no canada. (hey, what happened to your military? it was pretty good around WWI)

So what you're saying is that if we cut off all of the oil we supply the US, nothing would happen? Oh, by the way, what happened to your democracy? It was pretty good around pre-Bush era.

no, i think you missunderstood. i meant we would invade to protect our assets(sp?)
Quillaz
31-05-2004, 08:39
no, i think you missunderstood. i meant we would invade to protect our assets(sp?)

Your assets? Last time I checked, Canadian oil didn't belong to the US. And if you decide to invade Canada, I think the whole world would have something to say about that. Oh wait, nevermind, Bush would just go ahead and do it anyway.
You're so damn smart, GV! :lol:
CanuckHeaven
31-05-2004, 08:40
venezuela is our largest oil partner and if we wanted it bad enough there would be no canada. (hey, what happened to your military? it was pretty good around WWI)

So what you're saying is that if we cut off all of the oil we supply the US, nothing would happen? Oh, by the way, what happened to your democracy? It was pretty good around pre-Bush era.

no, i think you missunderstood. i meant we would invade to protect our assets(sp?)
We'll burn down your White House again!! :roll:
31-05-2004, 08:44
wait a sec! you have no army!

But we have the oil. And without the oil, the US will crumble.

if we just take canada, doesnt that solve both problems?
New Fuglies
31-05-2004, 08:47
wait a sec! you have no army!

But we have the oil. And without the oil, the US will crumble.

if we just take canada, doesnt that solve both problems?

ya might have a bit of trouble with all that radioactive ash though :twisted:
Quillaz
31-05-2004, 08:47
if we just take canada, doesnt that solve both problems?

Sure, until of course the rest of the world gets on your ass.
31-05-2004, 08:48
the rest of the world can suck my dick.
Quillaz
31-05-2004, 08:53
the rest of the world can suck my dick.
Do all Americans act this way or is it just this one? :roll:
Ianna
31-05-2004, 08:56
Well, I'm certainly all for some good, wholesome War of 1812 reenactment!

That said, and bearing in mind the fact that I am no military scholar, I am under the impression that it has, for the most part, simply faded away from disuse. Most of the soldiers are under the U.N. as peacekeepers, or off in Bosnia digging up mines, or in Afghanistan being shot by Americans, or other such things. We had some pretty wicked-cool stuff back in the '50s, like the Avro Arrow, which could outperform pretty well anything that was on the market already and could even bring down the coveted U2, but that was cancelled for mysteeeerious reasons, and we went under the U.S. defence umbrella shortly after. Rather odd, that.
CanuckHeaven
31-05-2004, 08:56
the rest of the world can suck my dick.
Do all Americans act this way or is it just this one? :roll:
Don't feed the trolls.
Quillaz
31-05-2004, 09:02
CanuckHeaven, which province do you live in and who do you plan to vote for in the upcoming election?
Greater Valia
31-05-2004, 09:03
hey hey hey now! if all you "canadians" will just accept that you're inferior to the great american empire, then the occupation and mass genocide will be all the more bearable.
31-05-2004, 09:08
no, i think you missunderstood. i meant we would invade to protect our assets(sp?)

Your assets? Last time I checked, Canadian oil didn't belong to the US. And if you decide to invade Canada, I think the whole world would have something to say about that. Oh wait, nevermind, Bush would just go ahead and do it anyway.
You're so damn smart, GV! :lol:
The last time I checked, the right to elect the President of the USA belonged to the USA alone. Perhaps the Canadians should consider the precious feelings of the world populace before making any decision as to whether or not to sell oil!
CanuckHeaven
31-05-2004, 09:09
CanuckHeaven, which province do you live in and who do you plan to vote for in the upcoming election?
Ontario and of course I am voting.
Quillaz
31-05-2004, 09:09
hey hey hey now! if all you "canadians" will just accept that you're inferior to the great american empire, then the occupation and mass genocide will be all the more bearable.

:lol: *Raises right arm* Hail Hit...er...Bush!
Greater Valia
31-05-2004, 09:10
no, i think you missunderstood. i meant we would invade to protect our assets(sp?)

Your assets? Last time I checked, Canadian oil didn't belong to the US. And if you decide to invade Canada, I think the whole world would have something to say about that. Oh wait, nevermind, Bush would just go ahead and do it anyway.
You're so damn smart, GV! :lol:

quit deluding yourself; the world doesnt care about you
CanuckHeaven
31-05-2004, 09:18
no, i think you missunderstood. i meant we would invade to protect our assets(sp?)

Your assets? Last time I checked, Canadian oil didn't belong to the US. And if you decide to invade Canada, I think the whole world would have something to say about that. Oh wait, nevermind, Bush would just go ahead and do it anyway.
You're so damn smart, GV! :lol:

quit deluding yourself; the world doesnt care about you
And we are glad :-)
Quillaz
31-05-2004, 09:21
The last time I checked, the right to elect the President of the USA belonged to the USA alone. Perhaps the Canadians should consider the precious feelings of the world populace before making any decision as to whether or not to sell oil!

Of course! You don't see any of us Canadians interfering with your elections. I don't really understand what you mean.

If we do not sell our oil, our economy will be shattered.
Quillaz
31-05-2004, 09:22
CanuckHeaven, which province do you live in and who do you plan to vote for in the upcoming election?
Ontario and of course I am voting.

For...?
Quillaz
31-05-2004, 09:23
quit deluding yourself; the world doesnt care about you

Right. Tell me that when WW3 is destroying the Earth piece by piece.
Greater Valia
31-05-2004, 09:28
quit deluding yourself; the world doesnt care about you

Right. Tell me that when WW3 is destroying the Earth piece by piece.

k
CanuckHeaven
31-05-2004, 09:32
CanuckHeaven, which province do you live in and who do you plan to vote for in the upcoming election?
Ontario and of course I am voting.

For...?
Paul Martin's Team
Quillaz
31-05-2004, 09:35
Paul Martin's Team

Good man. If wish I could vote (I'm underage). And I'm also living in Alberta, so almost everybody here votes Conservative. :?
CanuckHeaven
31-05-2004, 09:37
Paul Martin's Team

Good man. If wish I could vote (I'm underage). And I'm also living in Alberta, so almost everybody here votes Conservative. :?
WOW that really makes you a minority out there eh?
Quillaz
31-05-2004, 09:40
WOW that really makes you a minority out there eh?

Unfortunately so. But be careful, people may start to make fun of you because you said "eh."
CanuckHeaven
31-05-2004, 09:46
WOW that really makes you a minority out there eh?

Unfortunately so. But be careful, people may start to make fun of you because you said "eh."
I really am too old to care eh, and besides that would be their problem. 8)
Carlemnaria
31-05-2004, 10:03
i have to aggree with garaj mahal (there's a cool band by that name btw)
if the u.s. doesn't want to be responsible to the rest of the world it shouldn't be trying to be world dictator.

in mundane life i live in the u.s. but in my heart carlemnaria (and the world of lananara) is more "my country" then the u.s. ever has been or ever likely will be, even if both exist only on the net and in my head.

in carlemnaria we define evil as to knowingly cause avoidable harm, and even the lananaran interplanetary federation or the galactic u.n. of which it is a member, has yet to witness any force more harmful or destructive then the aggressiveness of gratuitous conventionality, not that neo-cons are in any ration sense of the word conservative of anything. and please not that i said gratuitious, as not all conventionalities are, and there's nothing wrong with shairing your ancestors defaults in the abscence of more pressing direct and immediate considerations, the problem comes in substituting the one for the other when there are!

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