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I just wanted to know if people supported the idea of a benovolent dictatorship and eugentscim. Since over the past few hours I have been riduculed for my stance on both topics.

I want a no-party system.

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I want a no-party system.

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not gonna happen

I want a no-party system.

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not gonna happen

It could.

For that matter a democracy could have no parties without being remarkably changed. Especially one that worked more like Germany's or France's system.

I just wanted to know if people supported the idea of a benovolent dictatorship and eugentscim. Since over the past few hours I have been riduculed for my stance on both topics.

Name one benevolent dictatorship.

What the hell is eugentscim?

I want a no-party system.

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"Beside him is a beautiful androgyne called SWITCH, aiming a large gun at Neo."--Script of The Matrix (I love The Matrix, but that is still funny.)
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I like big butts!
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not gonna happen

It could.

For that matter a democracy could have no parties without being remarkably changed. Especially one that worked more like Germany's or France's system.

Prove it.

There are many ways to better society besides through the chaos and partisanship inherent to a multi-party democracy. A benevolent semi-dictatorship such as Singapore would be the first to come to mind, though I am sure there are others.

There is nothing inherently superior about democracy, and a one party state does have some benefits:

*Awareness of where people belong

*A clear view of your duties

*A general feeling of unison

As well, there could be used a limited democracy, where individuals ran for election without political parties.

There are many ways to better society besides through the chaos and partisanship inherent to a multi-party democracy. A benevolent semi-dictatorship such as Singapore would be the first to come to mind, though I am sure there are others.

There is nothing inherently superior about democracy, and a one party state does have some benefits:

*Awareness of where people belong

*A clear view of your duties

*A general feeling of unison

As well, there could be used a limited democracy, where individuals ran for election without political parties.

Singapore has a very brutal law enforcers and a poor record on human rights. Ask the chinese there how it is.

There are many ways to better society besides through the chaos and partisanship inherent to a multi-party democracy. A benevolent semi-dictatorship such as Singapore would be the first to come to mind, though I am sure there are others.

There is nothing inherently superior about democracy, and a one party state does have some benefits:

*Awareness of where people belong

*A clear view of your duties

*A general feeling of unison

As well, there could be used a limited democracy, where individuals ran for election without political parties.

Singapore has a very brutal law enforcers and a poor record on human rights. Ask the chinese there how it is.

And those are bad things, why? "Oh, look...they shot the criminal... what a shame!" Is that what you're saying? IS IT?

There are many ways to better society besides through the chaos and partisanship inherent to a multi-party democracy. A benevolent semi-dictatorship such as Singapore would be the first to come to mind, though I am sure there are others.

There is nothing inherently superior about democracy, and a one party state does have some benefits:

*Awareness of where people belong

*A clear view of your duties

*A general feeling of unison

As well, there could be used a limited democracy, where individuals ran for election without political parties.

Singapore has a very brutal law enforcers and a poor record on human rights. Ask the chinese there how it is.

And those are bad things, why? "Oh, look...they shot the criminal... what a shame!" Is that what you're saying? IS IT?

No I'm saying that they are beating to death some practitioners of Falun Gong... about a hundred or so.

http://www.faluninfo.net/displayAnArticle.asp?ID=2541

I like the way on the poll that if I don't choose the one party system, I die. Maybe that says a lot about one party systems.

Mussolini, Castro, Franco all were very benovolent. And even Hitler to an extent. Well up until Stalingrad and El aimen.

Mussolini, Castro, Franco all were very benovolent. And even Hitler to an extent. Well up until Stalingrad and El aimen.
And the whole 'murdering citizens' bit too.

I just wanted to know if people supported the idea of a benovolent dictatorship and eugentscim. Since over the past few hours I have been riduculed for my stance on both topics.

Well, what you're proposing is indeed extreme, not to mention the fact that so far the only background reference you've supplied for your utopian ideal is Hitler, Mussolini, Castro and Franco. Not exactly sterling recommendations for "benevolent dictatorship".

Additionally, who's gets to be the dictator and what standards are you basing your eugenics on?

I do. Since I am the founder of the party, and one of the few sane people on the planet. And the eugenics are based off of Huxley's "Brave New World" And excellent novel and a must read for any Alansyist.


I can't believe that most of you said you'd prefer death over dictatorship.
Freedom can't feed you. Liberity can't clouth you. And democracy won't free you.


:arrow: Freedom is Slavery

Yes, yes, I've read Huxley. Brave New World, After Many Summers Dies the Swan, The Devil's of Loudon, Grey Eminance and The Doors of Perception.

You do, of course, understand that Huxley wasn't advocating for a society like Brave New World, but warning against it?

As for your being at the top of this heap of humanity, I don't find you to be any more sane than any other individual who claims to know the way to true salvation and what's "best for humanity." You claim that democracy isn't freedom, but the you advocate for a much more obvious form of repression and slavery in the form of a dictatorship with you arbitrarily at the top and a plan of eugenics which, regardless of what else it might do, fundamentally robs sentient beings of their birthright of free association of genetic material. The fact that you support this contradiction argues that you are, in fact, insane and therefore not qualified to lead your paradise by your own guidelines.

All writters are insane. That encompasses myself. But sanity is decided by the majority. Necrofeliacs would be considered normal if everyone were a necrofeliac themself. Sanity is simply what the majority decides upon.

Brave New World was a great idea for a nation. The mass production of human beings isn't part of the party program...yet. Becuase my colleagues find it to radical. And they believe they will burn in hell for it.

You are a worthy opponet: intellectually. I don't find many in my middle school. Did I forget to mention I'm 13?

Well, again, then, you're insane because the majority has clearly decided that dictatorships and eugenics are not acceptable. For you to support them means you are insane and fit to control neither one.

I can't believe that most of you said you'd prefer death over dictatorship.
Freedom can't feed you. Liberity can't clouth you. And democracy won't free you.

There is an alternative, though. Anarcho-communism can feed, cloth, and free you as long as you are willing to do your part.

*Awareness of where people belong

*A clear view of your duties

*A general feeling of unison

We don't belong anywhere. Order should be discarded whenever it leads to unhappiness. As for duties, I have only one, to oppose all oppression.

There is nothing inherently superior about democracy, and a one party state does have some benefits:

Western democracy is a joke and really isn't much better than dictatorship. Looking at Chile, it did little to stop Pinochet.

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But they will, I assure you.

why did we bring eugenicism into this?

all it ever brought us was racist theories and abortion

Talk to AE, he's the one with the crack-pot theory that he's convinced will be "the next big thing."

But they will, I assure you.

Why would people give up happiness for some abstract duty to serve the state?

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Brave New World was a good book and could teach us alot about our current soicety and how we can improve it. I agree with him in ways, and in others I think (Alansyist Eurasia) is a lunatic. For a thirteen year old boy he's nuts. Over the years, I hope, he will liberialize and become more down to earth. Then he could become a great politician.
:roll: Tell us Alansyist furher about your party and it's current situation. I saw your website for the two weeks it was on the web.

A 13 year old with their own political party? Now that sounds like a lie.

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Well it started at my school. I began to preach against a tyranical teacher, and the students followed.
Of course by then I was already obsessed with politics. I recieved a copy of "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" by William Shirer. And later a biography on Mussolini. I was a "centrist" up until sixth grade or so. Then I decided radical change could only be brought about by radical ideas.
So I made a speech blaming the 9/11 attacks on Bush and the nation of Isarel and gained huge support. Unfourtantely my speech on ghettoisim and illiegal aliens did not go as well. :(

So I became involved in many fights and was booted out of the school. Now I go to a more civilized school that accepts my radical ideology. As an orator I would say I do well with the acting but the wording of the speeches is so-so. The enegey I exert when I speak draws people to me.

Including the most fanatical of the party heirarchy which counted 500 members. Until my dad told me to shut down the website, becuase he thought I would be blacklisted by the FBI or something.

Now I am planning on a great merge between the following parties:
Libertarian National Socialist Green Party
Union of Fascists
Communism Now (stalinist party)
The Falange

Well it started at my school. I began to preach against a tyranical teacher, and the students followed.
Of course by then I was already obsessed with politics. I recieved a copy of "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" by William Shirer. And later a biography on Mussolini. I was a "centrist" up until sixth grade or so. Then I decided radical change could only be brought about by radical ideas.
So I made a speech blaming the 9/11 attacks on Bush and the nation of Isarel and gained huge support. Unfourtantely my speech on ghettoisim and illiegal aliens did not go as well.

So I became involved in many fights and was booted out of the school. Now I go to a more civilized school that accepts my radical ideology. As an orator I would say I do well with the acting but the wording of the speeches is so-so. The enegey I exert when I speak draws people to me.

Including the most fanatical of the party heirarchy which counted 500 members. Until my dad told me to shut down the website, becuase he thought I would be blacklisted by the FBI or something.

I had a similar, though opposite, situation. We are like Neo and Smith.

Now I am planning on a great merge between the following parties:
Libertarian National Socialist Green Party
Union of Fascists
Communism Now (stalinist party)
The Falange

Some of the greatest enemies of anarchism.

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What do you mean :?: By "Opposite experince. I need elaboration.


And tell me a little about your personal history and political alignment. If it isn't to much of a waste of your time.

And tell me about your current political affilations.

What do you mean By "Opposite experince. I need elaboration.

I was once a centrist like you, but I had experiences like yours. However, I took the path of freedom, instead. You chose the path of oppression.

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I oppress only those who oppose the party and the concepts it presents.
I am a 13 year old boy I still have growing up to do. But I promise you, we will all love Big Brother.

Why do you veiw me as "oppersive" and "evil." No where does it say dictatorships have to be cruel and hateful.

I mainly want to expell all violence, hate, and sufferage in the world by destroying those who cause it.

I oppress only those who oppose the party and the concepts it presents.
I am a 13 year old boy I still have growing up to do. But I promise you, we will all love Big Brother.

Why? Why is Big Brother more important than happiness or freedom? Why should I sacrifice my self for an abstract concept?

Why do you veiw me as "oppersive" and "evil." No where does it say dictatorships have to be cruel and hateful.

All dictatorships are based on violent force because all government is based on violent force. In fact, they are worse than ordinary governments because they use force far more often.

I mainly want to expell all violence, hate, and sufferage in the world by destroying those who cause it.

You know who creates it? People with power. Almost every great atrocity has been caused by a government or corporation or similar organization.

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I promise peace, work and bread. Freedom won't give you any of these. And if you value your freedom over life itself. I respect you, but will condemn and perescute you for thought-crime.

I promise peace, work and bread. Freedom won't give you any of these. And if you value your freedom over life itself. I respect you, but will condemn and perescute you for thought-crime.

You didn't read 1984 very carefully, did you? The point was that life there was terrible. Freedom may not give me the means of life, but it allows me to enjoy them. If you got your way, no one outside the government would be happy. What I value is happiness for everyone. Freedom is necessary for that.

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I read the book three times, and can recite it by heart. And people outside the government will be happy. They will have soma, and they will lead blissful ignorant lives. I do disagree with the ministry of plenty. I will provide my people with the goods needed. As long as they love the party they will be treated with love. If not well.... :twisted:

Oh yeah since you like Big Butts are you into bbw. Personally I find those women gross. But you anarchists are pretty screwed up.

I read the book three times, and can recite it by heart. And people outside the government will be happy. They will have soma, and they will lead blissful ignorant lives. I do disagree with the ministry of plenty. I will provide my people with the goods needed. As long as they love the party they will be treated with love. If not well....

This should be obvious, but the books were both intended to portray unpleasant societies. Orwell wasn't saying that totalitarian dictatorships were a good thing, so you are seriously misinterpreting 1984.

In addition, I suggest you watch The Matrix and consider your comment on "blissfully ignorant lives". You might learn something. On the other hand, you might decide that Agent Smith is a cool guy.

Oh yeah since you like Big Butts are you into bbw. Personally I find those women gross. But you anarchists are pretty screwed up.

It depends on how you define BBW. I prefer plump women with big butts, wide hips, and well defined curves, but I'm not the SSBBW(supersize BBW, generally over 250 pounds) type or anything.

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Ummm...both 1984 and Brave New World are Dystopias IE anti-utopias IE REALLY CRAPPY PLACES TO LIVE. And the authors made sure you knew it. That was the point for the books' existence. As for your "student revolution" I find it hard to believe that anyone, especially in a middle school, can instantly develop that much support, especially someone as crazy as you.

Exactly, Fauquier. I spent a whole semester explaining why government and capitalism were bad, and was threatened once by the police stationed at my school, without significant results. I guess I'll know if anarchism has taken root next year, but the anarchy symbol with "fag" scratched over it isn't encouraging.

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Advantages of benevolent dictatorship:
* You save on the massive amounts of money and time spent on propaganda prior to each election, thereby allowing the government, as well as the media and the masses, to focus on issues that actually matter.
* You don't need to have all those would-be politicians who end up not getting elected, allowing everybody who is not directly contributing to the government to be useful somewhere else.
* Government decisions can be made immediately, instead of having to convene and discuss and debate and amend and vote on every trivial issue.

Disadvantages of benevolent dictatorship:
* Good luck finding a benevolent dictator.

My student revolution involved twenty of my fellow classmates. We urinated on the walls of the school (which I was almost given a legal record for) And called the teachers sadistic tyrants. I launched my website. And my dad made me shut it down. But over two weeks I had two thousand hits and five hundred official members. Obvisouly you jelly like liberails and ignorant conservatives are not nearly as charismatic as us fascists and communists.

My student revolution involved twenty of my fellow classmates. We urinated on the walls of the school (which I was almost given a legal record for) And called the teachers sadistic tyrants. I launched my website. And my dad made me shut it down. But over two weeks I had two thousand hits and five hundred official members. Obvisouly you jelly like liberails and ignorant conservatives are not nearly as charismatic as us fascists and communists. :D

My student revolution involved twenty of my fellow classmates. We urinated on the walls of the school (which I was almost given a legal record for) And called the teachers sadistic tyrants. I launched my website. And my dad made me shut it down. But over two weeks I had two thousand hits and five hundred official members. Obvisouly you jelly like liberails and ignorant conservatives are not nearly as charismatic as us fascists and communists. :D

Perhaps, but we do tend to be better spellers...

Oh, and, um, good job with the peeing on things. :roll:

My student revolution involved twenty of my fellow classmates. We urinated on the walls of the school (which I was almost given a legal record for) And called the teachers sadistic tyrants. I launched my website. And my dad made me shut it down. But over two weeks I had two thousand hits and five hundred official members. Obvisouly you jelly like liberails and ignorant conservatives are not nearly as charismatic as us fascists and communists.

Ignoring the fact that "liberal" originally meant something similar to the Libertarian party, your claims make no sense. Why would an extreme authoritarian call teachers tyrants?

Also, I am an anarcho-communist, and I can tell you that it is not a form of dictatorship.

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This idiot transvestite of a teacher made us run all day for gym class non-stop. She publicly humilated students and malcisouly went after people who disliked the school. She hated men more than anything on earth. She was a bitter, divorced teacher. I gained support becuase everyone hated her. I used her as a scape goat to gain power. Oh, yes "tyrant" is a word I used to portray her sadisim and cruelty. Not the political sense of the word.

This idiot transvestite of a teacher made us run all day for gym class non-stop. She publicly humilated students and malcisouly went after people who disliked the school. She hated men more than anything on earth. She was a bitter, divorced teacher. I gained support becuase everyone hated her. I used her as a scape goat to gain power. Oh, yes "tyrant" is a word I used to portray her sadisim and cruelty. Not the political sense of the word.