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FAYETTEVILLE, Arkansas (AP) -- Michelle Duggar is all smiles after delivering her 15th child, but she may be ready for more, her family says.

Mother and child were doing well, although Michelle, 37, was feeling some discomfort because the birth was her second by Caesarean section, said her mother-in-law, Mary Duggar.

"She's a trouper. She's just all smiles," Mary Duggar said.

Jackson Levi Duggar was born at 10:52 a.m. Sunday, weighing 7 pounds 8 ounces and measuring 20 inches.



http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/South/05/25/fifteen.kids.ap/index.html

This woman is a machine

Maybe she should stop?

my goodness. how is she ever going to raise them all? :shock:

You think she would have figured out what caused that by now!

Maybe she should stop?

Haven't thought on that :lol:

i read about a woman in England who has 21 kids

Maybe she should stop?
Seriously....I wish we could explain to people how wrong this is and get them to stop without the government getting involved

youngest parents: 8 and 9 :shock:

i wonder what's the record for having the most number of births at one time by a mother. :?

8 and 9? jesus, is that the youngest on record?

No way. That would require high levels of misogynism.

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i read about a woman in England who has 21 kids

Disgusting. Must be Catholic. :lol:

Maybe she should stop?
Seriously....I wish we could explain to people how wrong this is and get them to stop without the government getting involvedThere's absolutely nothing wrong with it. They aren't going to be a burden on society because the father is a real estate agent and former state legislature. Investigate before you proclaim something bad.

Good for them, I say.

but think of the advantage they have in terms of evolution...
i mean, they're putting out 15 kids. assuming they all survive and even if they only have two kids apiece, the parents will still end up with 30 grandkids, their genetic material has a good chance of surviving for many generations...

but think of the advantage they have in terms of evolution...
i mean, they're putting out 15 kids. assuming they all survive and even if they only have two kids apiece, the parents will still end up with 30 grandkids, their genetic material has a good chance of surviving for many generations...Good point.

Someone should tell her it's a vagina, not a clown car!

Someone should tell her it's a vagina, not a clown car!Whoa, easy with that joke, it's an antique!

I feel bad for the father

Why? Both parents wanted a big family and are happy with it, and from how it looks (with his being a real estate agent and a former politician) I don't think they are in hard times because of their large family.

Someone should tell her it's a vagina, not a clown car!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Maybe she should stop?
Seriously....I wish we could explain to people how wrong this is and get them to stop without the government getting involvedThere's absolutely nothing wrong with it. They aren't going to be a burden on society because the father is a real estate agent and former state legislature. Investigate before you proclaim something bad.

Good for them, I say.

Being a parent, I have to wonder how you can possibly give each of 15 kids the personal attention they deserve. Who get the help with homework if six or seven of them run into isues? How can you be at that many school events if neccessary? How do you cover 15 college educations? How do you cope if one brings the flu home and 10 of them come down with it? Do 14 get shafted when the baby is teething? Or needs feeding?

The article states that she is home schooling the kids. 15 kids over that bredth of ages - how can you possibly present that many lessons at that wide a range of abilities and spend the time necessary to teach each of them properly? Consider that in your own school life if you only got 1/15th of the time you get in the way of lectures and personal help. Do you think you would have learned as much? At best she is running the proverbial one-room rural school house as used to exist. I don't think any will say that the students of those got the best education possible.

All I can say is that he better be one rich-assed real estate guy who can afford a lot of help. Otherwise the kids will surely be loved, but will not likely have received the individual attention and education needed to succeed on their own in life.

-Z-

yeah, i don't get how the home schooling woudl work. i mean, if you have a 10 year old and a 4 year old you're not going to teach them the same thing (i hope)

neuter her, her husband, and all her offspring. these creatures breed like morons and have no concept of the time and energy that is needed to raise a child well. no amount of money can provide the support a child really needs, which comes from good and attentive parenting, and no mother with 15 children is physically capable of giving all her progeny the attention they need. she and her husband should be imprisioned and their children permanently removed, since they are clearly mentally ill and shouldn't be responsible for raising kids.

but hey, that's only in a world where my opinions are dictators...in this world i say let em breed all they want, since all of their children are going to be handicapped from day 1 by their parents' selfishness and stupidity; thus my offspring and those of my friends will be able to dominate and use their offspring with even greater ease. ;)

Rrrright. I'll believe you and your offspring dominating when I see it...

Rrrright. I'll believe you and your offspring dominating when I see it...

ok.

Maybe she should stop?
Seriously....I wish we could explain to people how wrong this is and get them to stop without the government getting involvedThere's absolutely nothing wrong with it. They aren't going to be a burden on society because the father is a real estate agent and former state legislature. Investigate before you proclaim something bad.

Good for them, I say.
? I don't care if it's Bill Gates. We don't need to keep increasing the population growth rate the way we have been. Maybe The family can support them, in theory, but the world can't for long. I think 4 kids is the max that should be culturally acceptable. Personally, I favor replacement levels.
edit: Since we keep living longer and longer, even at replacement levels the population will grow. (but not the growth rate)

Maybe she should stop?
Seriously....I wish we could explain to people how wrong this is and get them to stop without the government getting involvedThere's absolutely nothing wrong with it. They aren't going to be a burden on society because the father is a real estate agent and former state legislature. Investigate before you proclaim something bad.

Good for them, I say.
? I don't care if it's Bill Gates. We don't need to keep increasing the population growth rate the way we have been. Maybe The family can support them, in theory, but the world can't for long. I think 4 kids is the max that should be culturally acceptable. Personally, I favor replacement levels.

besides, which, these 15 kids WILL be a burden on society, because they will not have been raised in anything approaching a healthy manner. they will never get the attention they need, and they will grow up thinking it's good to have 15 kids...so when one of them DOESN'T land a rich husband she will still pump out a baker's dozen of her own rugrats, which the rest of us will then have to support.

these people never think long term, and their selfishness is disgusting. at least they're hurting their own kids the most, so there is some justice to it.

Dang she musta hopped on the good foot and did the bad thing until her ankle broke.

Dang she musta hopped on the good foot and did the bad thing until her ankle broke.
hahahahaha, well put.

Being a parent, I have to wonder how you can possibly give each of 15 kids the personal attention they deserve. Who get the help with homework if six or seven of them run into isues? How can you be at that many school events if neccessary? How do you cover 15 college educations? How do you cope if one brings the flu home and 10 of them come down with it? Do 14 get shafted when the baby is teething? Or needs feeding?

The article states that she is home schooling the kids. 15 kids over that bredth of ages - how can you possibly present that many lessons at that wide a range of abilities and spend the time necessary to teach each of them properly? Consider that in your own school life if you only got 1/15th of the time you get in the way of lectures and personal help. Do you think you would have learned as much? At best she is running the proverbial one-room rural school house as used to exist. I don't think any will say that the students of those got the best education possible.

All I can say is that he better be one rich-assed real estate guy who can afford a lot of help. Otherwise the kids will surely be loved, but will not likely have received the individual attention and education needed to succeed on their own in life.

-Z-
Another good point that I was thinking of earlier, but forgot when I wrote my last post. My parents only have one other kid, and we had plenty of time conflicts already.
And what if one of the kids wanted to have a friend over? It's not faaaairrr....I want to have a friend over too....Before you know it, 26 kids at your house...
You can't very well sit down and have a nice family dinner with 17 people.

edit: actually, I just found out that her oldest kid is only like 15 or 16...so it should be 30 kids at the house, not just 26

Geesh...someone should post a "Do not reopen this decade" sign over that woman's private parts..what are they trying to do?..create their own electorate?

Geesh...someone should post a "Do not reopen this decade" sign over that woman's private parts..what are they trying to do?..create their own electorate?

Well we might see eye to eye on some things but on this we do....

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FAYETTEVILLE, Arkansas (AP) -- Michelle Duggar is all smiles after delivering her 15th child, but she may be ready for more, her family says.

Mother and child were doing well, although Michelle, 37, was feeling some discomfort because the birth was her second by Caesarean section, said her mother-in-law, Mary Duggar.

"She's a trouper. She's just all smiles," Mary Duggar said.

Jackson Levi Duggar was born at 10:52 a.m. Sunday, weighing 7 pounds 8 ounces and measuring 20 inches.
I heard on a newshow about a woman that had seventeen kids. In fact, come to think of it, my one grandma had ten children.


http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/South/05/25/fifteen.kids.ap/index.html

This woman is a machine

whoa! I just hope they can handle all those kids it could be a real mess for the kids and the parents. You know I've noticed most people don't have kids or at least not many anymore which is sad I myself think 3 is a good number sure as heck don't wanna go past 6 kids or so my father grew up in a family of 8 (2 parents 6 kids) and said that was fine but most I've seen past that is a nightmare.

Not true some of the kids will soon be grown (the 16 year old etc.) and of course the dad works hopefully making enough and of course that is why wealth redistribution supported by both major parties is wrong. I have to say this is crazy but it can be done lets hope they pull through

Maybe she should stop?
Seriously....I wish we could explain to people how wrong this is and get them to stop without the government getting involvedThere's absolutely nothing wrong with it. They aren't going to be a burden on society because the father is a real estate agent and former state legislature. Investigate before you proclaim something bad.

Good for them, I say.
? I don't care if it's Bill Gates. We don't need to keep increasing the population growth rate the way we have been. Maybe The family can support them, in theory, but the world can't for long. I think 4 kids is the max that should be culturally acceptable. Personally, I favor replacement levels.
edit: Since we keep living longer and longer, even at replacement levels the population will grow. (but not the growth rate)The world can support everyone on the planet just fine. The reason people starve is because they don't have money. So there goes that theory.

Maybe she should stop?
Seriously....I wish we could explain to people how wrong this is and get them to stop without the government getting involvedThere's absolutely nothing wrong with it. They aren't going to be a burden on society because the father is a real estate agent and former state legislature. Investigate before you proclaim something bad.

Good for them, I say.
? I don't care if it's Bill Gates. We don't need to keep increasing the population growth rate the way we have been. Maybe The family can support them, in theory, but the world can't for long. I think 4 kids is the max that should be culturally acceptable. Personally, I favor replacement levels.
edit: Since we keep living longer and longer, even at replacement levels the population will grow. (but not the growth rate)The world can support everyone on the planet just fine. The reason people starve is because they don't have money. So there goes that theory.ummm...no, so there goes that theory...Read some Daniel Quinn...I personally don't like him, but at least he makes you think.
Besides, don't you think it's easier to feed 3 people than 17?
Besides...I was complaining about the increase in population growth (and thus population) not just the current population levels...and no matter who you are, you can't say that the earth can support our forever increasing population...at some point, it'll all collapse

More wives to take care of more of the kids?

the scary part is that this poor woman has been pregnant for 16 years!
she has not had an uninterrupted nights sleep for 15 years
i saw her on TV and she looked pretty good. how does she keep her sanity?
she said she plans to have more kids yet

the scary part is that this poor woman has been pregnant for 16 years!
she has not had an uninterrupted nights sleep for 15 years
i saw her on TV and she looked pretty good. how does she keep her sanity?
she said she plans to have more kids yet

Gee..it must be nice to be so self-indulgent..37..15 kids..she's never had an oppurtunity to NOT be pregnant...one after another poppin em out. If it weren't for the fact that her husband is independently wealthy somehow I don't think her husband would indulge her continued insistence on creating babies so much a farm.

the scary part is that this poor woman has been pregnant for 16 years!
she has not had an uninterrupted nights sleep for 15 years
i saw her on TV and she looked pretty good. how does she keep her sanity?
she said she plans to have more kids yet

One word: Make-up. Lots and lotsa makeup.

Who the heck is her doctor?!!! :shock: Doesn't she know that having that many children can cause a condition the enlarges dangerously enlarges the heart? And what about baby blues? Besides which her hormone levels have got to be off the charts! That's just the physical problems mentally and emotionally she has got to be tripping. She has to play mother and teacher to fifthteen children ranging in age group from daycare to highschool. What the heck is that like? Wait a minute is she a Catholic living in the midwest inside a cult? She isn't? :? Strange... Anyway my mom freaked out with just the five of us, she'd have murdered us all if there had been ten more! People! Destroying the world cause they can't keep their legs closed. Man she'll be the poster mom for the Pro-life movement before you know it. :roll:

I see nothing wrong with this woman having 15 kids, as long as she can support them and give them the care they need. The world's not going to end just because one woman brought 15 people into it.

I see nothing wrong with this woman having 15 kids, as long as she can support them and give them the care they need. The world's not going to end just because one woman brought 15 people into it.

But that is just it..it is highly doubtful that she does give each and every one of those 15 children the adequate attention, love, and care necessary

I see nothing wrong with this woman having 15 kids, as long as she can support them and give them the care they need. The world's not going to end just because one woman brought 15 people into it.

But that is just it..it is highly doubtful that she does give each and every one of those 15 children the adequate attention, love, and care necessary

Do you know this woman personally? It is unfair to judge a person's child rearing abilities unless we have witnessed some aspect of her parenting. It is possible for this woman to have enough room in her heart to give enough attention to her children.

Maybe she should stop?
Seriously....I wish we could explain to people how wrong this is and get them to stop without the government getting involvedThere's absolutely nothing wrong with it. They aren't going to be a burden on society because the father is a real estate agent and former state legislature. Investigate before you proclaim something bad.

Good for them, I say.

Being a parent, I have to wonder how you can possibly give each of 15 kids the personal attention they deserve. Who get the help with homework if six or seven of them run into isues? How can you be at that many school events if neccessary? How do you cover 15 college educations? How do you cope if one brings the flu home and 10 of them come down with it? Do 14 get shafted when the baby is teething? Or needs feeding?

The article states that she is home schooling the kids. 15 kids over that bredth of ages - how can you possibly present that many lessons at that wide a range of abilities and spend the time necessary to teach each of them properly? Consider that in your own school life if you only got 1/15th of the time you get in the way of lectures and personal help. Do you think you would have learned as much? At best she is running the proverbial one-room rural school house as used to exist. I don't think any will say that the students of those got the best education possible.

All I can say is that he better be one rich-assed real estate guy who can afford a lot of help. Otherwise the kids will surely be loved, but will not likely have received the individual attention and education needed to succeed on their own in life.

-Z-
Well, they must find a way to be educated. My grandma had ten kids. One of them engineers subway systems. He's worked on the subways in Seoul, Daegjong, and Washington DC.

i read about a woman in England who has 21 kids

Disgusting. Must be Catholic. :lol:

LOL

So true

She's going to die at a young age. Pregnancy is for obvious reasons extremely hard on the body. Once or twice might not cause too many problems, but 15, that must take 30 years off your life!

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She's going to die at a young age. Pregnancy is for obvious reasons extremely hard on the body. Once or twice might not cause too many problems, but 15, that must take 30 years off your life!

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I keep saying on here that my grandma had ten kids. Anyhow, she lived to be 82. On top of that, she had a stroke, several bouts of pneumonia, and open heart surgery back in the sixties, when it was new.

The most by a mother is 69 kids.

The most by a mother is 69 kids.
The most by a living mother is 50. It's some woman in Chile.

Maybe she should stop?
Seriously....I wish we could explain to people how wrong this is and get them to stop without the government getting involvedThere's absolutely nothing wrong with it. They aren't going to be a burden on society because the father is a real estate agent and former state legislature. Investigate before you proclaim something bad.

Good for them, I say.

Being a parent, I have to wonder how you can possibly give each of 15 kids the personal attention they deserve. Who get the help with homework if six or seven of them run into isues? How can you be at that many school events if neccessary? How do you cover 15 college educations? How do you cope if one brings the flu home and 10 of them come down with it? Do 14 get shafted when the baby is teething? Or needs feeding?

The article states that she is home schooling the kids. 15 kids over that bredth of ages - how can you possibly present that many lessons at that wide a range of abilities and spend the time necessary to teach each of them properly? Consider that in your own school life if you only got 1/15th of the time you get in the way of lectures and personal help. Do you think you would have learned as much? At best she is running the proverbial one-room rural school house as used to exist. I don't think any will say that the students of those got the best education possible.

All I can say is that he better be one rich-assed real estate guy who can afford a lot of help. Otherwise the kids will surely be loved, but will not likely have received the individual attention and education needed to succeed on their own in life.

-Z-
Well, they must find a way to be educated. My grandma had ten kids. One of them engineers subway systems. He's worked on the subways in Seoul, Daegjong, and Washington DC.

And the other nine?

Assuming she is still alive - ask Grandma next time you see her if she could have handled five more and home schooled them all to boot, plus payed for them all to go to college at today's prices.

She'll probably tell you to give your head a shake.

Not saying that they will all fail in life. I mean, at the very least this situation will force them to be independant. Just not saying that I consider this to be the ideal environment in which to raise children. I think that some will get shortchanged, and especially if one or two are simply the sort of kids that need a bit more guidance and care than most in order to really succeed.

-Z-

Damn, don't these people have a TV? They need a hobby or a lobotomy or something.

Maybe she should stop?
Seriously....I wish we could explain to people how wrong this is and get them to stop without the government getting involvedThere's absolutely nothing wrong with it. They aren't going to be a burden on society because the father is a real estate agent and former state legislature. Investigate before you proclaim something bad.

Good for them, I say.

Being a parent, I have to wonder how you can possibly give each of 15 kids the personal attention they deserve. Who get the help with homework if six or seven of them run into isues? How can you be at that many school events if neccessary? How do you cover 15 college educations? How do you cope if one brings the flu home and 10 of them come down with it? Do 14 get shafted when the baby is teething? Or needs feeding?

The article states that she is home schooling the kids. 15 kids over that bredth of ages - how can you possibly present that many lessons at that wide a range of abilities and spend the time necessary to teach each of them properly? Consider that in your own school life if you only got 1/15th of the time you get in the way of lectures and personal help. Do you think you would have learned as much? At best she is running the proverbial one-room rural school house as used to exist. I don't think any will say that the students of those got the best education possible.

All I can say is that he better be one rich-assed real estate guy who can afford a lot of help. Otherwise the kids will surely be loved, but will not likely have received the individual attention and education needed to succeed on their own in life.

-Z-
Well, they must find a way to be educated. My grandma had ten kids. One of them engineers subway systems. He's worked on the subways in Seoul, Daegjong, and Washington DC.

And the other nine?

Assuming she is still alive - ask Grandma next time you see her if she could have handled five more and home schooled them all to boot, plus payed for them all to go to college at today's prices.

She'll probably tell you to give your head a shake.

Not saying that they will all fail in life. I mean, at the very least this situation will force them to be independant. Just not saying that I consider this to be the ideal environment in which to raise children. I think that some will get shortchanged, and especially if one or two are simply the sort of kids that need a bit more guidance and care than most in order to really succeed.

-Z-
The other nine did fine. My dad taught business before he died. I have two aunts: one works as a professor at the local college (St. Boniventure, if you've heard of it), and the other is a housewife living fine. My uncles are all fine. One's at a tile factory, one worked for AT&T before he retired, and one was the head of that county's welfare department. I forgot what the other's did, as they all comfortably retired.
As for my grandma, she sadly passed away a few years back. But you do have a point, because now that I think about it, she didn't have one every year. By the time of the last few kids, the eldest were already in college. And they were certainly not homeschooled, either. But I'm just saying, they can get equal attention and education.
And I know they got equal attention. Each of them loved their mother dearly, and when she went into the nursing home, most of them were there every day to help her.

Just think of it this way, she can pump out all the kids she wants, have her own basketball team or football team if she wanted to, and if she can't support them, the Government will pay for them. Why not? They pay for all of the illegals that come over.

She said she wants more....I heard that on the morning radio news show.....

She lives in Arkansas, I should've guessed