NationStates Jolt Archive

People, both pro and anti gay-marriage, want one thing. To be left alone with their secured rights.

I say, why not strip EVERYONE from their rights? There! Gays won't complain about not having equal rights, and anti-gay marriage folk won't complain about gays screwing up the sanctatity of marriage because GUESS WHAT? There is no marriage anymore! Jokes on you!

If anyone, only the heteros would lose. Than the anti-gay marriage people would feel what it's like to not have the right to marry....oh! Just like gays!

The gays can live with it, like they have been since 1776.

All at the expense of 250+ million people of course....

Actually...I make a damn good argument....*ponders whether to take out the sarcasm tags*

Exactly! Ban everything, and no-one will ever be offended again!

And another thing, we should ban language too, so people won't be offended by others 'redefining' words like 'marriage'!

Exactly! Ban everything, and no-one will ever be offended again!

And another thing, we should ban language too, so people won't be offended by others 'redefining' words like 'marriage'!
ban guns too, we can't use them properly

ban the freedom of the press, they screw things up for the Armed Forces


Hell, ban America and rename ourselves to "50 Random British colonies"

Exactly! Ban everything, and no-one will ever be offended again!

And another thing, we should ban language too, so people won't be offended by others 'redefining' words like 'marriage'!
ban guns too, we can't use them properly

ban the freedom of the press, they screw things up for the Armed Forces


Hell, ban America and rename ourselves to "50 Random British colonies"

Brittain should be banned too.

Exactly! Ban everything, and no-one will ever be offended again!

And another thing, we should ban language too, so people won't be offended by others 'redefining' words like 'marriage'!
ban guns too, we can't use them properly

ban the freedom of the press, they screw things up for the Armed Forces


Hell, ban America and rename ourselves to "50 Random British colonies"

Brittain should be banned too.

Just Tony Blair, the British, and the Queen...and the Princes

(ok, now I'm joking here.... :roll: )

ban banning!

Exactly! Ban everything, and no-one will ever be offended again!

And another thing, we should ban language too, so people won't be offended by others 'redefining' words like 'marriage'!

"Marriage" and "holy matrimony", see definitions then compare and contrast. :idea:

Exactly! Ban everything, and no-one will ever be offended again!

And another thing, we should ban language too, so people won't be offended by others 'redefining' words like 'marriage'!

"Marriage" and "holy matrimony", see definitions then compare and contrast. :idea:

Ban them!

oooh. this is interesting. why don't we kill off all human life so that everything can start again? :roll:

Ban free speech to avoid arguments! :twisted:

Rather than ban everything, just nuke everything :twisted:

no, they shouldn't BAN marriage, they should just get rid of government marriage

If they must, change all government unions to...just that....government unions (or civil unions, whatever) and let the relgious folk have their marriages.
If religious people say that marriage is a union under god (which I can buy) then let the church(es) decide who's married
and notice, no sarcasm tags...I've thought about it a lot, and it makes sense...

Interesting theory.

Interesting theory.

Heh-heh...

"No, I didn't really marry her because marriage is banned in Colodia! No really! That's where I live! I'm not lying!"

Note: That's in the tone of good natured ribbing, Cuneo. :D

Interesting theory.

Heh-heh...

"No, I didn't really marry her because marriage is banned in Colodia! No really! That's where I live! I'm not lying!"

Note: That's in the tone of good natured ribbing, Cuneo. :D

:lol:

*ponders making an issue on this*

Exactly! Ban everything, and no-one will ever be offended again!

And another thing, we should ban language too, so people won't be offended by others 'redefining' words like 'marriage'!

Most redefinition can be eliminated by banning politics - have a dictionarycracy. :lol:

Most redefinition can be eliminated by banning politics - have a dictionarycracy. :lol:

Dictionacracy...yeah that works :lol:

Actually, I honestly wouldn't mind if the government didn't recognize marraige. It only brings burdens, and the biggest benefit I know of is that interspousial money transfers are tax-free. With a little tax trimming, marraige can be effectively removed as a government sanctioned institution.

oooh. this is interesting. why don't we kill off all human life so that everything can start again? :roll:

Excellent idea, I'll get right on it.

Actually, I honestly wouldn't mind if the government didn't recognize marraige. It only brings burdens, and the biggest benefit I know of is that interspousial money transfers are tax-free. With a little tax trimming, marraige can be effectively removed as a government sanctioned institution.

Actually, there are other issues that marriage enters other than taxes. Power of attorney, inheritance, how things get split up if the relationship ends, children, debt, property, etc, etc. The government needs a way to keep track of such things, but it doesn't necessarily have to be called marriage, I suppose.

Marriage is just evil. It's just another way for someone to control you. I don't want to get murdered... um... married. If you plan to, don't. If you're already there, my sympathies. Just one man's opinion. 8)


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oooh. this is interesting. why don't we kill off all human life so that everything can start again? :roll:

Excellent idea, I'll get right on it.

"If earth were a rental. We so wouldn't get our bond back."

oooh. this is interesting. why don't we kill off all human life so that everything can start again? :roll:

Excellent idea, I'll get right on it.

"If earth were a rental. We so wouldn't get our bond back."
"If Earth was God's Science project....he is SO getting a D+"

I've been reading what everyone has been posting...and I believe we should ban all individuals who consider themselves "high" enough to ban others, thus eliminating banning all together. People will be happier with their situation when they realize nothing will ever improve it.

...of course, this banning bannists would result in a climatic time paradox that would blow the universe to shreads, and restart mankind all the way back to the stone age, but hay: Even the best medical pills have some side-effects.

As for nuking the world...I must say that their are quite a large number of far more cost effective methods of "pruning the hedges." all stupid people would be forced to wallow in their stupiditym preforming everyday, yet nessesary, tasks...whilst the intelecuals and geniuses (you and me), rule the universe with an iron fist! Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

"Shun magic! Shun the appearance of magic! Shun EVERYTHING! And then SHUN SHUNNING!!!!"
-Mir Yannik, Grand Inquisitor of Zork

"I may be a chicken...but I'll be laughing at your funeral..."
-Me :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

"The moon never sets on the Nepharious Empire!"

no, they shouldn't BAN marriage, they should just get rid of government marriage

If they must, change all government unions to...just that....government unions (or civil unions, whatever) and let the relgious folk have their marriages.
If religious people say that marriage is a union under god (which I can buy) then let the church(es) decide who's married
and notice, no sarcasm tags...I've thought about it a lot, and it makes sense...

And then it would be up to the individual churches which marriages they would like to sanction, and which ones not. Meaning some churches will, and some will not, conduct same-sex marriages. Just like it ought to be. And the government would only conduct civil unions, and open those (since it is now only a legal status) to all couples, hetero or homo. There. Now everyone has equal rights, which is what the gay people want. The anti-gay homophobe asswipe crowd gets what they want...their church will still be able to be homophobic jerks and deny gays the right to "marry." (at least in THEIR church)

Thus you have two seperate ceremonies, but only for those who want both. You have the state-sanctioned legal relationship, the "union." It makes no difference who the participants are, in the eyes of the government, provided all parties involved are so of their own free will, and are of legal age, and mental capacity to consent to the union.

Then you have the church-sanctioned "marriage." and it is up to whatever church to decide if the marriage is acceptable in their eyes.

No church can be persecuted or punished for failing to conduct a marriage they find disagreeable. No church shall be able to stop the government from sanctioning any union the church finds unacceptable. No church shall be able to stop two individuals from making a lifelong commitment to one another.

The church will no longer have influence over the lives of people who reject the church's authority in these matters, and who may not share the beliefs of that particular church.

This almost makes so much sense it is unbelieveable...which is why it will never happen.

There are those poisonous "religious" folk who will stop at nothing to control the lives of other people...particularly people who reject that church's authority.

i find the notion of homosexual marriage highly offensive

Actually, I honestly wouldn't mind if the government didn't recognize marraige. It only brings burdens, and the biggest benefit I know of is that interspousial money transfers are tax-free. With a little tax trimming, marraige can be effectively removed as a government sanctioned institution.

Actually, there are other issues that marriage enters other than taxes. Power of attorney, inheritance, how things get split up if the relationship ends, children, debt, property, etc, etc. The government needs a way to keep track of such things, but it doesn't necessarily have to be called marriage, I suppose.

Yes! And by so stating these other benefits of marriage, yiu are making the case FOR gay marriage. Because these are the rights gay couples have been denied since the founding of this country.

Ditto!

Adam and Eve...not Adam and Steve!

"The moon never sets on the Nepharious Empire."

i find the notion of homosexual marriage highly offensive

Glad to hear it. Perhaps there is something YOU believe in...something important to YOU...that someone ELSE finds offensive. so you YOU be banned from having that which is important to YOU because someone ELSE finds it offensive?

Ditto!

Adam and Eve...not Adam and Steve!

"The moon never sets on the Nepharious Empire."

What about Lillith? :cry:

My last post was refering to Greater Valia...just to clear that up...

"The moon never sets on the Nepharious Empire."

Actually, there are other issues that marriage enters other than taxes. Power of attorney, inheritance, how things get split up if the relationship ends, children, debt, property, etc, etc. The government needs a way to keep track of such things, but it doesn't necessarily have to be called marriage, I suppose.

Yes! And by so stating these other benefits of marriage, yiu are making the case FOR gay marriage. Because these are the rights gay couples have been denied since the founding of this country.

Er, yup - that was the point =) I may not completely agree with you on everything Labrador, but on this I agree wholeheartedly.

i find the notion of homosexual marriage highly offensive

Sucks to be you then.

Ditto!

Adam and Eve...not Adam and Steve!

"The moon never sets on the Nepharious Empire."

Jesus Christ...at least come up with your own original argument!

Fine, so it was Adam and Eve.
Okay, let's run with that for a sec, shall we?

So you have Adam and Eve.
They had three sons, Seth, Cain, and Abel.
Cain killed Abel.
We do not know if Abel reproduced before Cain killed him.
Assume he did.

We do not know iff there were any daughters from Adam and Eve. If there were, we do not know their names.

However, we have exactly FOUR potential male breeders...Adam, Seth, Cain, and Abel. That's it.

If there were no daughters...then which of the three (Seth, Cain, or Abel) committed incest with their own mother to procreate the human race? Since it could not be Adam, we already established only Seth, Cain and Abel as being the only offspring of Adam and Eve.

If there WERE daughters (and we jst don't know their names, since the Bible did not consider women to be important enough to mention) then which of the four...Adam, Seth, Cain, or Abel...committed incest with his own daughter or his own sister to procreate the human race?

Answer that, phucker! :twisted:

Ditto!

Adam and Eve...not Adam and Steve!

"The moon never sets on the Nepharious Empire."

Jesus Christ...at least come up with your own original argument!

Fine, so it was Adam and Eve.
Okay, let's run with that for a sec, shall we?

So you have Adam and Eve.
They had three sons, Seth, Cain, and Abel.
Cain killed Abel.
We do not know if Abel reproduced before Cain killed him.
Assume he did.

We do not know iff there were any daughters from Adam and Eve. If there were, we do not know their names.

However, we have exactly FOUR potential male breeders...Adam, Seth, Cain, and Abel. That's it.

If there were no daughters...then which of the four committed incest with their own mother to procreate the human race?

If there WERE daughters (and we jst don't know their names, since the Bible did not consider women to be important enough to mention) then which of the four...Adam, Seth, Cain, or Abel...committed incest with his own daughter or his own sister to procreate the human race?

Answer that, phucker! :twisted:

why are you so hateful? wooh! :?

Ditto!

Adam and Eve...not Adam and Steve!

"The moon never sets on the Nepharious Empire."

Jesus Christ...at least come up with your own original argument!

Fine, so it was Adam and Eve.
Okay, let's run with that for a sec, shall we?

So you have Adam and Eve.
They had three sons, Seth, Cain, and Abel.
Cain killed Abel.
We do not know if Abel reproduced before Cain killed him.
Assume he did.

We do not know iff there were any daughters from Adam and Eve. If there were, we do not know their names.

However, we have exactly FOUR potential male breeders...Adam, Seth, Cain, and Abel. That's it.

If there were no daughters...then which of the four committed incest with their own mother to procreate the human race?

If there WERE daughters (and we jst don't know their names, since the Bible did not consider women to be important enough to mention) then which of the four...Adam, Seth, Cain, or Abel...committed incest with his own daughter or his own sister to procreate the human race?

Answer that, phucker! :twisted:

Um, relax? He was, like, joking and stuff.

Ditto!

Adam and Eve...not Adam and Steve!

"The moon never sets on the Nepharious Empire."

Jesus Christ...at least come up with your own original argument!

Fine, so it was Adam and Eve.
Okay, let's run with that for a sec, shall we?

So you have Adam and Eve.
They had three sons, Seth, Cain, and Abel.
Cain killed Abel.
We do not know if Abel reproduced before Cain killed him.
Assume he did.

We do not know iff there were any daughters from Adam and Eve. If there were, we do not know their names.

However, we have exactly FOUR potential male breeders...Adam, Seth, Cain, and Abel. That's it.

If there were no daughters...then which of the four committed incest with their own mother to procreate the human race?

If there WERE daughters (and we jst don't know their names, since the Bible did not consider women to be important enough to mention) then which of the four...Adam, Seth, Cain, or Abel...committed incest with his own daughter or his own sister to procreate the human race?

Answer that, phucker! :twisted:

Um, relax? He was, like, joking and stuff.

No. I was NOT joking. And, Greater Valia (and Nepharious Philosopher)...one could ask YOU BOTH the same question...why are YOU so hateful??

Ditto!

Adam and Eve...not Adam and Steve!

"The moon never sets on the Nepharious Empire."

Jesus Christ...at least come up with your own original argument!

Fine, so it was Adam and Eve.
Okay, let's run with that for a sec, shall we?

So you have Adam and Eve.
They had three sons, Seth, Cain, and Abel.
Cain killed Abel.
We do not know if Abel reproduced before Cain killed him.
Assume he did.

We do not know iff there were any daughters from Adam and Eve. If there were, we do not know their names.

However, we have exactly FOUR potential male breeders...Adam, Seth, Cain, and Abel. That's it.

If there were no daughters...then which of the four committed incest with their own mother to procreate the human race?

If there WERE daughters (and we jst don't know their names, since the Bible did not consider women to be important enough to mention) then which of the four...Adam, Seth, Cain, or Abel...committed incest with his own daughter or his own sister to procreate the human race?

Answer that, phucker! :twisted:

Um, relax? He was, like, joking and stuff.

No. I was NOT joking. And, Greater Valia (and Nepharious Philosopher)...one could ask YOU BOTH the same question...why are YOU so hateful??

at least we somebody reads our messages it doesnt seem like someone was screeming at their monitor while they were writing it

Ditto!

Adam and Eve...not Adam and Steve!

"The moon never sets on the Nepharious Empire."

What about Lillith? :cry:

And Lilith doesn't throw any monkey wrench into my argument, since there is no offspring of Adam and Lilith!
So my argument still stands. Which one committed incest? :twisted:

Ditto!

Adam and Eve...not Adam and Steve!

"The moon never sets on the Nepharious Empire."

Jesus Christ...at least come up with your own original argument!

Fine, so it was Adam and Eve.
Okay, let's run with that for a sec, shall we?

So you have Adam and Eve.
They had three sons, Seth, Cain, and Abel.
Cain killed Abel.
We do not know if Abel reproduced before Cain killed him.
Assume he did.

We do not know iff there were any daughters from Adam and Eve. If there were, we do not know their names.

However, we have exactly FOUR potential male breeders...Adam, Seth, Cain, and Abel. That's it.

If there were no daughters...then which of the four committed incest with their own mother to procreate the human race?

If there WERE daughters (and we jst don't know their names, since the Bible did not consider women to be important enough to mention) then which of the four...Adam, Seth, Cain, or Abel...committed incest with his own daughter or his own sister to procreate the human race?

Answer that, phucker! :twisted:

Um, relax? He was, like, joking and stuff.

No. I was NOT joking. And, Greater Valia (and Nepharious Philosopher)...one could ask YOU BOTH the same question...why are YOU so hateful??

at least we somebody reads our messages it doesnt seem like someone was screeming at their monitor while they were writing it

Does it make you feel so much better that someone actually reads your venemous, hateful spew?

Ditto!

Adam and Eve...not Adam and Steve!

"The moon never sets on the Nepharious Empire."

Jesus Christ...at least come up with your own original argument!

Fine, so it was Adam and Eve.
Okay, let's run with that for a sec, shall we?

So you have Adam and Eve.
They had three sons, Seth, Cain, and Abel.
Cain killed Abel.
We do not know if Abel reproduced before Cain killed him.
Assume he did.

We do not know iff there were any daughters from Adam and Eve. If there were, we do not know their names.

However, we have exactly FOUR potential male breeders...Adam, Seth, Cain, and Abel. That's it.

If there were no daughters...then which of the four committed incest with their own mother to procreate the human race?

If there WERE daughters (and we jst don't know their names, since the Bible did not consider women to be important enough to mention) then which of the four...Adam, Seth, Cain, or Abel...committed incest with his own daughter or his own sister to procreate the human race?

Answer that, phucker! :twisted:

Um, relax? He was, like, joking and stuff.

No. I was NOT joking. And, Greater Valia (and Nepharious Philosopher)...one could ask YOU BOTH the same question...why are YOU so hateful??

at least we somebody reads our messages it doesnt seem like someone was screeming at their monitor while they were writing it

Does it make you feel so much better that someone actually reads your venemous, hateful spew?

feel better? what? why do i write venemous hateful spew? if you ask me, the tone and wording of your message sounds like youre the one writing the venemous hateful spew.

bump

Ditto!

Adam and Eve...not Adam and Steve!

"The moon never sets on the Nepharious Empire."

Jesus Christ...at least come up with your own original argument!

Fine, so it was Adam and Eve.
Okay, let's run with that for a sec, shall we?

So you have Adam and Eve.
They had three sons, Seth, Cain, and Abel.
Cain killed Abel.
We do not know if Abel reproduced before Cain killed him.
Assume he did.

We do not know iff there were any daughters from Adam and Eve. If there were, we do not know their names.

However, we have exactly FOUR potential male breeders...Adam, Seth, Cain, and Abel. That's it.

If there were no daughters...then which of the four committed incest with their own mother to procreate the human race?

If there WERE daughters (and we jst don't know their names, since the Bible did not consider women to be important enough to mention) then which of the four...Adam, Seth, Cain, or Abel...committed incest with his own daughter or his own sister to procreate the human race?

Answer that, phucker! :twisted:

Um, relax? He was, like, joking and stuff.

No. I was NOT joking. And, Greater Valia (and Nepharious Philosopher)...one could ask YOU BOTH the same question...why are YOU so hateful??

at least we somebody reads our messages it doesnt seem like someone was screeming at their monitor while they were writing it

Does it make you feel so much better that someone actually reads your venemous, hateful spew?

feel better? what? why do i write venemous hateful spew? if you ask me, the tone and wording of your message sounds like youre the one writing the venemous hateful spew.

Yeah? Well, I'M doing it to make a point. YOU'RE doing it because you really ARE hateful.
I'm just feeding you a spoonful of your own medicine. don't taste so good, does it?

Ditto!

Adam and Eve...not Adam and Steve!

"The moon never sets on the Nepharious Empire."

Jesus Christ...at least come up with your own original argument!

Fine, so it was Adam and Eve.
Okay, let's run with that for a sec, shall we?

So you have Adam and Eve.
They had three sons, Seth, Cain, and Abel.
Cain killed Abel.
We do not know if Abel reproduced before Cain killed him.
Assume he did.

We do not know iff there were any daughters from Adam and Eve. If there were, we do not know their names.

However, we have exactly FOUR potential male breeders...Adam, Seth, Cain, and Abel. That's it.

If there were no daughters...then which of the four committed incest with their own mother to procreate the human race?

If there WERE daughters (and we jst don't know their names, since the Bible did not consider women to be important enough to mention) then which of the four...Adam, Seth, Cain, or Abel...committed incest with his own daughter or his own sister to procreate the human race?

Answer that, phucker! :twisted:

Um, relax? He was, like, joking and stuff.

No. I was NOT joking. And, Greater Valia (and Nepharious Philosopher)...one could ask YOU BOTH the same question...why are YOU so hateful??

at least we somebody reads our messages it doesnt seem like someone was screeming at their monitor while they were writing it

Does it make you feel so much better that someone actually reads your venemous, hateful spew?

feel better? what? why do i write venemous hateful spew? if you ask me, the tone and wording of your message sounds like youre the one writing the venemous hateful spew.

Yeah? Well, I'M doing it to make a point. YOU'RE doing it because you really ARE hateful.
I'm just feeding you a spoonful of your own medicine. don't taste so good, does it?

sheesh, but you always post like that. hateful, mean, and and........ something bad!

Yeah? Well, I'M doing it to make a point. YOU'RE doing it because you really ARE hateful.
I'm just feeding you a spoonful of your own medicine. don't taste so good, does it?

sheesh, but you always post like that. hateful, mean, and and........ something bad!

Really now? Maybe it's because people like you PROVOKE me into it, by being so damn intolerant and hateful yourselves!!

Yeah? Well, I'M doing it to make a point. YOU'RE doing it because you really ARE hateful.
I'm just feeding you a spoonful of your own medicine. don't taste so good, does it?

sheesh, but you always post like that. hateful, mean, and and........ something bad!

Really now? Maybe it's because people like you PROVOKE me into it, by being so damn intolerant and hateful yourselves!!


i could say the same for you. and i highly doubt that somebody would come up to on the strret and say something "intollerant and hateful" to you.

Ditto!

Adam and Eve...not Adam and Steve!

"The moon never sets on the Nepharious Empire."

Jesus Christ...at least come up with your own original argument!

Fine, so it was Adam and Eve.
Okay, let's run with that for a sec, shall we?

So you have Adam and Eve.
They had three sons, Seth, Cain, and Abel.
Cain killed Abel.
We do not know if Abel reproduced before Cain killed him.
Assume he did.

We do not know iff there were any daughters from Adam and Eve. If there were, we do not know their names.

However, we have exactly FOUR potential male breeders...Adam, Seth, Cain, and Abel. That's it.

If there were no daughters...then which of the four committed incest with their own mother to procreate the human race?

If there WERE daughters (and we jst don't know their names, since the Bible did not consider women to be important enough to mention) then which of the four...Adam, Seth, Cain, or Abel...committed incest with his own daughter or his own sister to procreate the human race?

Answer that, phucker! :twisted:

Um, relax? He was, like, joking and stuff.

No. I was NOT joking. And, Greater Valia (and Nepharious Philosopher)...one could ask YOU BOTH the same question...why are YOU so hateful??

at least we somebody reads our messages it doesnt seem like someone was screeming at their monitor while they were writing it

Does it make you feel so much better that someone actually reads your venemous, hateful spew?

feel better? what? why do i write venemous hateful spew? if you ask me, the tone and wording of your message sounds like youre the one writing the venemous hateful spew.

Yeah? Well, I'M doing it to make a point. YOU'RE doing it because you really ARE hateful.
I'm just feeding you a spoonful of your own medicine. don't taste so good, does it?

sheesh, but you always post like that. hateful, mean, and and........ something bad!

woah! like... quote pyramid! crazy dude!

I hereby officially ban the universe. Violators will be exiled to Calabi-Yau Space.

There, that solves everything.

Actually, I honestly wouldn't mind if the government didn't recognize marraige. It only brings burdens, and the biggest benefit I know of is that interspousial money transfers are tax-free. With a little tax trimming, marraige can be effectively removed as a government sanctioned institution.

Actually, there are other issues that marriage enters other than taxes. Power of attorney, inheritance, how things get split up if the relationship ends, children, debt, property, etc, etc. The government needs a way to keep track of such things, but it doesn't necessarily have to be called marriage, I suppose.
True.