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Wherever he goes, he's greeted by massive crowds of protesters. :lol:

What a great man to have as your leader. Glad I'm not American :roll:

We'll all be fine. Unless he gets re-elected. :?

If that ever happens, i'm moving to Canada. :D

All American Presidents are met by crowds of protestors, nowadays. It' spart of the job description.

--The Jovial States of Cogitation
"Laugh about it for a moment."
NationStates Self-Proclaimed Court Jester

Poor Guy. I kinda feel sorry for him really... :?

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Trix
Not a Moderator, Just a Negotiator
Newest RP Idea! (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=149102&highlight=)

All American Presidents are met by crowds of protestors, nowadays. It' spart of the job description.

--The Jovial States of Cogitation
"Laugh about it for a moment."
NationStates Self-Proclaimed Court Jesterno american President has ever had the amount of people on a global basis protest him in sheer numbers then Bush has ever before--Bush breaks all records in this regard

Poor Guy. I kinda feel sorry for him really... :?

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Trix
Not a Moderator, Just a Negotiator
Newest RP Idea! (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=149102&highlight=)I dont--I hope it causes him to commit suicide

All American Presidents are met by crowds of protestors, nowadays. It' spart of the job description.

--The Jovial States of Cogitation
"Laugh about it for a moment."
NationStates Self-Proclaimed Court JesterExactly.

Poor Guy. I kinda feel sorry for him really... :?

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Trix
Not a Moderator, Just a Negotiator
Newest RP Idea! (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=149102&highlight=)I dont--I hope it causes him to commit suicide

We can only hope.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3757625.stm

Wherever he goes, he's greeted by massive crowds of protesters. :lol:

What a great man to have as your leader. Glad I'm not American :roll:

Dangit Myrth I'm jealous. I'm ashamed to be an American.

Poor Guy. I kinda feel sorry for him really... :?

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Trix
Not a Moderator, Just a Negotiator
Newest RP Idea! (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=149102&highlight=)I dont--I hope it causes him to commit suicide

We can only hope.hes prolly too stupid to do even that right and he'd end up killing Cheney insted --but I could live with that too :P

Poor Guy. I kinda feel sorry for him really... :?

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Trix
Not a Moderator, Just a Negotiator
Newest RP Idea! (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=149102&highlight=)I dont--I hope it causes him to commit suicide

We can only hope.

Hehehe.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3757625.stm

Wherever he goes, he's greeted by massive crowds of protesters. :lol:

What a great man to have as your leader. Glad I'm not American :roll:

Dangit Myrth I'm jealous. I'm ashamed to be an American.

Don't worry, Cuneo. Everything will be fine once Kerry is elected. And Yes, there is no doubt in my mind that he will be.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3757625.stm

Wherever he goes, he's greeted by massive crowds of protesters. :lol:

What a great man to have as your leader. Glad I'm not American :roll:

Dangit Myrth I'm jealous. I'm ashamed to be an American.

Don't worry, Cuneo. Everything will be fine once Kerry is elected. And Yes, there is no doubt in my mind that he will be.what if Bush sponsores another terrorist assault on america as an october surprise?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3757625.stm

Wherever he goes, he's greeted by massive crowds of protesters. :lol:

What a great man to have as your leader. Glad I'm not American :roll:

Dangit Myrth I'm jealous. I'm ashamed to be an American.

Don't worry, Cuneo. Everything will be fine once Kerry is elected. And Yes, there is no doubt in my mind that he will be.what if Bush sponsores another terrorist assault on america as an october surprise?

He's probably working on having someone surgically altered to have 'captured' as Bin Laden :lol:

There probably won't be another terrorist attack till after the election. Terrorists just don't want Bush to get re-elected.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3757625.stm

Wherever he goes, he's greeted by massive crowds of protesters. :lol:

What a great man to have as your leader. Glad I'm not American :roll:

Dangit Myrth I'm jealous. I'm ashamed to be an American.

Don't worry, Cuneo. Everything will be fine once Kerry is elected. And Yes, there is no doubt in my mind that he will be.what if Bush sponsores another terrorist assault on america as an october surprise?

He's probably working on having someone surgically altered to have 'captured' as Bin Laden :lol:or he could be keeping the real one on ice somewhere :o

There probably won't be another terrorist attack till after the election. Terrorists just don't want Bush to get re-elected.yeah they do--hes their best recruiter

Wishing death upon someone. How liberal of you. :roll:

Wishing death upon someone. How liberal of you. :roll:

It's for the good of mankind.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3757625.stm

Wherever he goes, he's greeted by massive crowds of protesters. :lol:

What a great man to have as your leader. Glad I'm not American :roll:

Dangit Myrth I'm jealous. I'm ashamed to be an American.

Don't worry, Cuneo. Everything will be fine once Kerry is elected. And Yes, there is no doubt in my mind that he will be.'

Hopefully.

On the topic of actual protests, the fact of the matter is that yes, especially in Western Europe and other places, he will be greeted with protests. Heck, if he went to Boston, he'd probably get some protesters.

Another notable fact is that when he went on a tour of Eastern Europe, he was greeted with clapping and jubilation. People who have lived under the jackboot of an evil dictator - and are now experiencing Democracy - obviously take a different view about removing such dictators than those on the other side of the continent, who have been removed from dictators for a generation, at least - more even, if you discount Spain and Portugal.

Wishing death upon someone. How liberal of you. :roll:

It's for the good of mankind.

Sort of like how removing a certain dictator who killed over a million of his own people is for the good of that country.

The Iraqis certainly don't seem to fond of their 'liberator.'

i blame most of what is happening on society's crumble of values and morals if only there was one person to command them all in a good and honest way then the world would be at peace but no everyone has to go off and be retarded i mean america is one of the few countries you can talk bad about your goverment and then not get sniped while getting a dr. pepper at the vending machine over your view .. either way its not that he is a bad president because he is a wonderful one in my eyes its just that everyone else has no respect for what he has the balls to go off and do

Yeah, it's part of the job description. I may not be a Bush supporter, Myrth, but every leader faces opposition.

I dont--I hope it causes him to commit suicide

What a horrible thing to say!

Wishing death upon someone. How liberal of you. :roll:

It's for the good of mankind.

Sort of like how removing a certain dictator who killed over a million of his own people is for the good of that country.

Nice way to pull figures out of your arse.

Removing a dictatorship is one thing, taking out 10,000 civilians and defying the international community in the process is another.

Wishing death upon someone. How liberal of you. :roll:

It's for the good of mankind.

The good of mankind is never furthered by death, Myrth. How many despots, dictators and tyrannical murderers have used that exact same argument in the past to justify their attrocities. Indeed, doesn't Bush sort of use this line of thinking to condone his own actions?

He's wrong and I disagree with practically everything he's done, but I most certainly do not wish death on him. I think you're allowing your hatred of the man's policies to cloud your judgement as a human being. By wishing death on him, you prove yourself to be no better than him or a terrorists.

All in all, very disappointing to hear this coming from a moderator.

The Iraqis certainly don't seem to fond of their 'liberator.'

Not yet. Time will tell what they think once things settle down.

*Puts on a Mod coat without anyone noticing*

"Right you lot, this stops now, i'll have no more Bush talking today! It just isn't fair ok? And i could get alot worse very soon. So drop it, now...."

*Does the stop-o-talko-bouto-bush-o-motion*

Trix
Self-Promoted Mod for the duration

*Takes of Mod coat and runs off....*

Nice way to pull figures out of your arse.

Removing a dictatorship is one thing, taking out 10,000 civilians and defying the international community in the process is another.

And one death is just as wrong as 10,000 or a million. Rationalize it however you want, but at the end of the day you are practicing the same tactics as he is and which you claim to despise.

*Puts on a Mod coat without anyone noticing*

"Right you lot, this stops now, i'll have no more Bush talking today! It just isn't fair ok? And i could get alot worse very soon. So drop it, now...."

*Does the stop-o-talko-bouto-bush-o-motion*

Trix
Self-Promoted Mod for the duration

*Takes of Mod coat and runs off....*

*throws tomatos at him.*

double post

*Wipe tomato off and puts Mod coat back on*

"Stop that NOW! Immature NSers! I'm trying to do you all a favour. Drop this wholw subject now!"

*Takes coat off, and watches thread...*

Wishing death upon someone. How liberal of you. :roll:

It's for the good of mankind.

The good of mankind is never furthered by death, Myrth. How many despots, dictators and tyrannical murderers have used that exact same argument in the past to justify their attrocities. Indeed, doesn't Bush sort of use this line of thinking to condone his own actions?

He's wrong and I disagree with practically everything he's done, but I most certainly do not wish death on him. I think you're allowing your hatred of the man's policies to cloud your judgement as a human being. By wishing death on him, you prove yourself to be no better than him or a terrorists.

All in all, very disappointing to hear this coming from a moderator.

I do not make such statements lightly.

Wishing death upon someone. How liberal of you. :roll:

It's for the good of mankind.

Sort of like how removing a certain dictator who killed over a million of his own people is for the good of that country.

Nice way to pull figures out of your arse.

Removing a dictatorship is one thing, taking out 10,000 civilians and defying the international community in the process is another.
Sometimes, when certain members of the International Community threaten to veto any use of force against a brutal dictator, it has to be ignored.

The number issue is iffy. Estimates range from "only" a few hundred thousand to well over a million. I picked in the high end of the spectrum -although no matter which numbers you chose to believe, he certainly racks up a horrible amount of deaths given the size of his country.

Nice way to pull figures out of your arse.

Removing a dictatorship is one thing, taking out 10,000 civilians and defying the international community in the process is another.

And one death is just as wrong as 10,000 or a million. Rationalize it however you want, but at the end of the day you are practicing the same tactics as he is and which you claim to despise.

Who is to say that those 10,000 people needed to die to remove Saddam from power?

Bush won't get re-elected. His numbers in the polls are falling consistently. Unless he captures Bin Landen or makes major breakthroughs in terror he won't get re-elected...I hope

Wishing death upon someone. How liberal of you. :roll:

It's for the good of mankind.

Sort of like how removing a certain dictator who killed over a million of his own people is for the good of that country.

Nice way to pull figures out of your arse.

Removing a dictatorship is one thing, taking out 10,000 civilians and defying the international community in the process is another.
Sometimes, when certain members of the International Community threaten to veto any use of force against a brutal dictator, it has to be ignored.

Certain members? Try all but a few members.

Who is to say that those 10,000 people needed to die to remove Saddam from power?

Who is to say you have the right to wish death on someone? I think I've made my dislike of Bush and his actions in Iraq well known in this forum, but I also dislike, "It's right because I do it," arguments and this seems to be exactly what you're advocating. 10,000 deaths is wrong. 1 death is wrong. Death is not quantitative.

Grrr!

*Jumps up and down*

Certain members? Try all but a few members.
In terms of population of those countries, yes.

In terms of governments and leaders, then no. France was the only one sticking out their neck and saying they'd veto anything. Even Germany and Russia were willing to let a vote go through and, if the resolution passed, send troops.

I do not make such statements lightly.

You shouldn't make them at all. Making them removes any moral justification you may have had for making them in the first place.

The truth is, the majority of Americans don't care about how many Iraqis die. They care about how many Americans die. If Bush just pulls all the troops out and forgets about the whole thing, he will gain more support. I don't agree that's how it should be, but that's how it will be. The majority of us(us meaning americans) don't care if some new Iraqi military group takes over, as long as no more of "us" gets hurt. It's the cold, true fact of our rich, spoiled lives.