New comic based legislation what do you think of it?
Josh Dollins
29-05-2004, 06:12
http://www.cbldf.org/pr/archives/000181.shtml
I think people should not be able to sue and that the stores and publishers should be free to operate as they feel to. Some stores will put certain titles behind clerk shelf or in wrapper like porno mags etc. but they shouldn't have to. If I were a parent I'd just tell my kid not to go in that store not take him or her there and shop elsewhere I wouldn't sue over it, kids gonna see this stuff eventually anyway I dunno how about everyone else? At least they put a cap on it so it doesn't get outta hand.
Note I have to admite I'm a comic/manga fan so I'm a bit biased. :D
California Republicans. Sigh.
Ryanania
29-05-2004, 06:19
I understand that parents might not want their kids reading "Blood Hentai Oshiki-Oh Na" or whatever the hell those Japs are putting out these days, but it's not like these comics are being dropped down their chimney. In the case of comic books, parents should take responsibility and pay attention to what their kids are buying. American parents these days are really shitty.
http://www.cbldf.org/pr/archives/000181.shtml
I dunno how about everyone else? At least they put a cap on it so it doesn't get outta hand.
Note I have to admite I'm a comic/manga fan so I'm a bit biased. :D
Note: I have to admit that I didn't read the link...hell I didn't even open the link, but going just by what you said, Joshy, I mostly agree. The government should never play babysitter and people should be able to produce whatever they want (to an extent, of course- as long as they aren't hurting anyone...which brings into questions about cigarettes and guns, etc...I'm sure, but not anything needed to be answered here) I'm not sure exactly what to think about age requirement laws...but I have this nagging feeling that they're ok. At least as long as we have them we should enforce them right? keep anything that you have to be a certain age to buy behind the counter (except for beer which should be in the fridge of course) and ask for ID!!
I guess I feel this way because it takes blame off of the manufacturers...people blame Eminem for corrupting our youth- but his cds all come with that parental advisory sticker- it's not his fault if kids get their hands on it.
I do think, ultimately, it should be the parents job to set limits for their kids, but I also think it's unreasonable to expect parents to know everything their kid is doing...
edit: oh, and I'm definitely not a manga fan....
I'm gonna go read that link now and see if my post fits at all
so basically, my response boils down to I don't know
But leave Eminem alone...the more pissed off you get, the more he has to write about, and the more records he sells
edit2: hmmmm.....gurrrgle...yeah, set up a curtain with a sign that says "adult section, must be 18 to enter"
though I couldn't understand if they were gonna punish the manufacturer or the store owner or the employee...either way I don't like it....seems like it's just asking for trouble
UncleBob
29-05-2004, 06:42
This will never pass. Why? Cause the christian fundamentalists pushing it, don't own America. We do. And if they really think they're going to force this on us, I have something for them.
And my plan is based on what happened during prohibition.
Ryanania
29-05-2004, 06:46
This will never pass. Why? Cause the christian fundamentalists pushing it, don't own America. We do. And if they really think they're going to force this on us, I have something for them.
And my plan is based on what happened during prohibition.Again with the delusions of grandeur. I suppose you have sleeper cells all over the nation, ready to detonate comic bombs at your command.
Bacchical
29-05-2004, 06:48
"H.B. 4239, also called the “Parents’ Empowerment Act,” would allow the parent or guardian of a minor to sue in federal court anyone who knowingly disseminates any media containing “material that is harmful to minors” if the material is distributed in a way that “a reasonable person can expect a substantial number of minors to be exposed to the material and the minor, as a result to exposure to the material, is likely to suffer personal or emotional injury or injury to mental or moral welfare.” "
I literally had to hold myself back from smashing my monitor when I read this. Soft plastic people are winning again, and I'm sick of it. These people just continously waste our time and energy on bullshit laws - whatever happened to progress, I ask? You, you are not "Supermom". Stop. You are killing ideas, creativity, and society as a whole. Stop.
I understand that parents might not want their kids reading "Blood Hentai Oshiki-Oh Na" or whatever the hell those Japs are putting out these days, but it's not like these comics are being dropped down their chimney.
I've actually seen that happen. :P
Anyway, this is of concern because the recent free-trade agreement between the USA and Australia might mean that if this passes, than I'm not going to be able to get ahold of my manga, which is imported from the US.
Where's your first amendment now?
UncleBob
29-05-2004, 06:48
This will never pass. Why? Cause the christian fundamentalists pushing it, don't own America. We do. And if they really think they're going to force this on us, I have something for them.
And my plan is based on what happened during prohibition.Again with the delusions of grandeur. I suppose you have sleeper cells all over the nation, ready to detonate comic bombs at your command.
LMAO. You really must be stupid.
When alchohol is banned, you set up speak easies.
When they penalize stores for selling porn, then you start giving away pron on the streets unbagged and unwrappred so everyone can see their contents.
Bacchical
29-05-2004, 06:53
This will never pass. Why? Cause the christian fundamentalists pushing it, don't own America. We do. And if they really think they're going to force this on us, I have something for them.
And my plan is based on what happened during prohibition.Again with the delusions of grandeur. I suppose you have sleeper cells all over the nation, ready to detonate comic bombs at your command.
LMAO. You really must be stupid.
When alchohol is banned, you set up speak easies.
When they penalize stores for selling porn, then you start giving away pron on the streets unbagged and unwrappred so everyone can see their contents.
That got me thinking. The more stress we put on sex, the wilder it should become. And the better chance I can get laid. Perhaps there's something to this bull after all.
UncleBob
29-05-2004, 06:58
This will never pass. Why? Cause the christian fundamentalists pushing it, don't own America. We do. And if they really think they're going to force this on us, I have something for them.
And my plan is based on what happened during prohibition.Again with the delusions of grandeur. I suppose you have sleeper cells all over the nation, ready to detonate comic bombs at your command.
LMAO. You really must be stupid.
When alchohol is banned, you set up speak easies.
When they penalize stores for selling porn, then you start giving away pron on the streets unbagged and unwrappred so everyone can see their contents.
That got me thinking. The more stress we put on sex, the wilder it should become. And the better chance I can get laid. Perhaps there's something to this bull after all.
There you go. Free porn for everyone.
To hell with all these antiamerican christian fundamentalist sobs.
We do it just to spite them. And giving away free porn is a protected form of political protest so they can't arrest you on acount of you are doing to protest an illegal law.
Ryanania
29-05-2004, 06:59
This will never pass. Why? Cause the christian fundamentalists pushing it, don't own America. We do. And if they really think they're going to force this on us, I have something for them.
And my plan is based on what happened during prohibition.Again with the delusions of grandeur. I suppose you have sleeper cells all over the nation, ready to detonate comic bombs at your command.
LMAO. You really must be stupid.
When alchohol is banned, you set up speak easies.
When they penalize stores for selling porn, then you start giving away pron on the streets unbagged and unwrappred so everyone can see their contents.And I said that you're having delusions of grandeur. Judging by the quality of your posts in other threads, I'd estimate your age at about 11 years old, so you won't be setting up anything. Speaking of which, isn't it past your bedtime?
Ryanania
29-05-2004, 07:00
I understand that parents might not want their kids reading "Blood Hentai Oshiki-Oh Na" or whatever the hell those Japs are putting out these days, but it's not like these comics are being dropped down their chimney.Where's your first amendment now?Not in Australia.
UncleBob
29-05-2004, 07:01
This will never pass. Why? Cause the christian fundamentalists pushing it, don't own America. We do. And if they really think they're going to force this on us, I have something for them.
And my plan is based on what happened during prohibition.Again with the delusions of grandeur. I suppose you have sleeper cells all over the nation, ready to detonate comic bombs at your command.
LMAO. You really must be stupid.
When alchohol is banned, you set up speak easies.
When they penalize stores for selling porn, then you start giving away pron on the streets unbagged and unwrappred so everyone can see their contents.And I said that you're having delusions of grandeur. Judging by the quality of your posts in other threads, I'd estimate your age at about 11 years old, so you won't be setting up anything. Speaking of which, isn't it past your bedtime?]
You just can't comprehend my great strategic brilliance cause of that pathetically puny brain of yours. Which you destroyed even more with all that ecstasy you took at all those raves you been attending.
Ryanania
29-05-2004, 07:02
This will never pass. Why? Cause the christian fundamentalists pushing it, don't own America. We do. And if they really think they're going to force this on us, I have something for them.
And my plan is based on what happened during prohibition.Again with the delusions of grandeur. I suppose you have sleeper cells all over the nation, ready to detonate comic bombs at your command.
LMAO. You really must be stupid.
When alchohol is banned, you set up speak easies.
When they penalize stores for selling porn, then you start giving away pron on the streets unbagged and unwrappred so everyone can see their contents.And I said that you're having delusions of grandeur. Judging by the quality of your posts in other threads, I'd estimate your age at about 11 years old, so you won't be setting up anything. Speaking of which, isn't it past your bedtime?]
You just can't comprehend my great strategic brilliance cause of that pathetically puny brain of yours. Which you destroyed even more with all that ecstasy you took at all those raves you been attending.HAHAHAHA! Thank you for proving my point.
UncleBob
29-05-2004, 07:04
This will never pass. Why? Cause the christian fundamentalists pushing it, don't own America. We do. And if they really think they're going to force this on us, I have something for them.
And my plan is based on what happened during prohibition.Again with the delusions of grandeur. I suppose you have sleeper cells all over the nation, ready to detonate comic bombs at your command.
LMAO. You really must be stupid.
When alchohol is banned, you set up speak easies.
When they penalize stores for selling porn, then you start giving away pron on the streets unbagged and unwrappred so everyone can see their contents.And I said that you're having delusions of grandeur. Judging by the quality of your posts in other threads, I'd estimate your age at about 11 years old, so you won't be setting up anything. Speaking of which, isn't it past your bedtime?]
You just can't comprehend my great strategic brilliance cause of that pathetically puny brain of yours. Which you destroyed even more with all that ecstasy you took at all those raves you been attending.HAHAHAHA! Thank you for proving my point.
Ah ha. So you admit to taking ecstasy at raves.
do you also admit to being guilty of date rape with the use of rape drugs?
Just as I thought. I knew you was a criminal dilinquent.
Ryanania
29-05-2004, 07:07
Ha! This guy went from being annoying to being comic relief.
Ryanania
29-05-2004, 07:08
Ha! This guy went from being annoying to being comic relief.
Bacchical
29-05-2004, 07:08
Now, let's try to figure which one never got his porn fix growing up...perhaps the one making date rape jokes...
UncleBob
29-05-2004, 07:12
Now, let's try to figure which one never got his porn fix growing up...perhaps the one making date rape jokes...
What makes you so sure that was a joke and not a serious accusation?
Bacchical
29-05-2004, 07:19
Now, let's try to figure which one never got his porn fix growing up...perhaps the one making date rape jokes...
What makes you so sure that was a joke and not a serious accusation?
Fine. Start a topic about date rape, and get the hell out of this discussion.
All right, all right. Now, maybe Ryanania is right that Bob is a deranged lunatic. And maybe Bob is right about Ryan, though I doubt that.
But let's not bicker and argue about who is crazier than who...this is supposed to be a thread about pornography and US Legislation...
Free Outer Eugenia
29-05-2004, 07:30
filthy fecking fascists :x
Ascensia
29-05-2004, 07:32
Aren't there already laws against selling sexually or otherwise explicit material to minors? I know I had to whip out my ID to buy my copy of Diablo II a couple years back, are the people selling comic books just stupider and less vigilant about breaking the law?