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Equal Treatment my arse.

Kanookistan
29-05-2004, 04:25
I've been hearing a lot of complaining from hardline feminists that women make, on average, $1.25 less an hour.

Heaven forbid you look at beauty pageants that are clearly subjectification of women, but they choose pay.

When women start paying for dinner, movie (and snacks), flowers etc. I can see why you'd want the extra cash. And when do I get to leave a sinking ship first? When do I get to vacate a burning building first? You can't have your pudding if you don't eat your meat people.
Spherical objects
29-05-2004, 04:28
I've been hearing a lot of complaining from hardline feminists that women make, on average, $1.25 less an hour.

Heaven forbid you look at beauty pageants that are clearly subjectification of women, but they choose pay.

When women start paying for dinner, movie (and snacks), flowers etc. I can see why you'd want the extra cash. And when do I get to leave a sinking ship first? When do I get to vacate a burning building first? You can't have your pudding if you don't eat your meat people.
http://www.geog.ucsb.edu/~jeff/earthgifs/world.gif

If physically stronger males cannot give physically weaker women eqaul rights and still not show some old-fashioned respect, the world is learning nothing.
Johnistan
29-05-2004, 04:29
I think it's just all a bunch of bullshit.
imported_Celeborne
29-05-2004, 04:29
If physically stronger males cannot give physically weaker women eqaul rights and still not show some old-fashioned respect, the world is learning nothing.

Horse pucky. My girl friend can take me in 2 out of 3 sword fights....Should she be opening doors for me ??? And paying for dinner ??
Kanookistan
29-05-2004, 04:30
I've been hearing a lot of complaining from hardline feminists that women make, on average, $1.25 less an hour.

Heaven forbid you look at beauty pageants that are clearly subjectification of women, but they choose pay.

When women start paying for dinner, movie (and snacks), flowers etc. I can see why you'd want the extra cash. And when do I get to leave a sinking ship first? When do I get to vacate a burning building first? You can't have your pudding if you don't eat your meat people.
http://www.geog.ucsb.edu/~jeff/earthgifs/world.gif

If physically stronger males cannot give physically weaker women eqaul rights and still not show some old-fashioned respect, the world is learning nothing.

My problem is with them wanting to be equal in privleges but not responsibilities.
UncleBob
29-05-2004, 04:33
I've been hearing a lot of complaining from hardline feminists that women make, on average, $1.25 less an hour.

Heaven forbid you look at beauty pageants that are clearly subjectification of women, but they choose pay.

When women start paying for dinner, movie (and snacks), flowers etc. I can see why you'd want the extra cash. And when do I get to leave a sinking ship first? When do I get to vacate a burning building first? You can't have your pudding if you don't eat your meat people.
http://www.geog.ucsb.edu/~jeff/earthgifs/world.gif

If physically stronger males cannot give physically weaker women eqaul rights and still not show some old-fashioned respect, the world is learning nothing.
If there is to be equality there must be equality in everything.
Equality between the genders does not mean that women get special privileges.
Women are quite capable of fending for themselves and if they aren't its becuase they are lazy and sit on their butts all day doing nothing but watching soaps and eating candy bars. While forcing men to be their slaves.
Amerigo
29-05-2004, 04:35
Equality is just a liberal pipe dream...

There never was and never can be equality... People are generally not equal. So why the hell are we trying to make everything equal?

Civic rights is one thing but total equality in every aspect of life is just bullshit.
UncleBob
29-05-2004, 04:36
I've been hearing a lot of complaining from hardline feminists that women make, on average, $1.25 less an hour.

Heaven forbid you look at beauty pageants that are clearly subjectification of women, but they choose pay.

When women start paying for dinner, movie (and snacks), flowers etc. I can see why you'd want the extra cash. And when do I get to leave a sinking ship first? When do I get to vacate a burning building first? You can't have your pudding if you don't eat your meat people.
http://www.geog.ucsb.edu/~jeff/earthgifs/world.gif

If physically stronger males cannot give physically weaker women eqaul rights and still not show some old-fashioned respect, the world is learning nothing.

My problem is with them wanting to be equal in privleges but not responsibilities.
Women who stay at my house have to work.
Just ask my neice when she came over and thought she wouldn't have to do a single thing just becuase she was a girl.
Ha. I made her mow the grass, cut the weeds, wash dishes, and move the engine out of the car we was working on.
Forgot what else I had her do. I know it was a long list cause I made the list due to her saying she didn't have to do any work just becuase she was a girl.
She ended up doing more work than everyone else. That taught her a thing or two about equality.
Katganistan
29-05-2004, 04:44
I've been hearing a lot of complaining from hardline feminists that women make, on average, $1.25 less an hour.

Heaven forbid you look at beauty pageants that are clearly subjectification of women, but they choose pay.

When women start paying for dinner, movie (and snacks), flowers etc. I can see why you'd want the extra cash. And when do I get to leave a sinking ship first? When do I get to vacate a burning building first? You can't have your pudding if you don't eat your meat people.
http://www.geog.ucsb.edu/~jeff/earthgifs/world.gif

If physically stronger males cannot give physically weaker women eqaul rights and still not show some old-fashioned respect, the world is learning nothing.

My problem is with them wanting to be equal in privleges but not responsibilities.
Women who stay at my house have to work.
Just ask my neice when she came over and thought she wouldn't have to do a single thing just becuase she was a girl.
Ha. I made her mow the grass, cut the weeds, wash dishes, and move the engine out of the car we was working on.
Forgot what else I had her do. I know it was a long list cause I made the list due to her saying she didn't have to do any work just becuase she was a girl.
She ended up doing more work than everyone else. That taught her a thing or two about equality.

No, it just taught her a lot about her Uncle.
Mental Hospital
29-05-2004, 04:49
women's rights are great to the extant, that women should have equal RIGHTS to something, but the facts that statistically women make less is irrelevent. HOW is it my fault as a man, that most women choose lower paying job that relate to things they know? I'm not about to pay a house keeper $30/hr like my old man(father) makes as a millwright to clean the house(like I did when i lived at home) or BS like that. Equal right whether it be womens or blacks right should be extended to the point that no rights are granted one way or the other.

<edit - relalized my old man makes more than $20/h as a full ticketed millwrite, plus note he works on average 50+hr weeks)
Draconistarum
29-05-2004, 05:03
I've been hearing a lot of complaining from hardline feminists that women make, on average, $1.25 less an hour.

Heaven forbid you look at beauty pageants that are clearly subjectification of women, but they choose pay.

When women start paying for dinner, movie (and snacks), flowers etc. I can see why you'd want the extra cash. And when do I get to leave a sinking ship first? When do I get to vacate a burning building first? You can't have your pudding if you don't eat your meat people.
http://www.geog.ucsb.edu/~jeff/earthgifs/world.gif

If physically stronger males cannot give physically weaker women eqaul rights and still not show some old-fashioned respect, the world is learning nothing.

My problem is with them wanting to be equal in privleges but not responsibilities.
Women who stay at my house have to work.
Just ask my neice when she came over and thought she wouldn't have to do a single thing just becuase she was a girl.
Ha. I made her mow the grass, cut the weeds, wash dishes, and move the engine out of the car we was working on.
Forgot what else I had her do. I know it was a long list cause I made the list due to her saying she didn't have to do any work just becuase she was a girl.
She ended up doing more work than everyone else. That taught her a thing or two about equality.

You made her take the engine out of a car? Did she have to do it alone? I do not remember an engine being something one person could lift alone.
Cannot think of a name
29-05-2004, 05:11
You made her take the engine out of a car? Did she have to do it alone? I do not remember an engine being something one person could lift alone.
My old roommate (a chick) swapped three engines between two VW bugs in an afternoon. She would also do all the repairs on my car (a 914).

What women get paid in the workplace (which is measured vs. what men who do the same job, btw) has nothing to do with wether or not you pay for the movie. If they do the same job, they deserve the same money. Quite trying to apply public policy based on stand-up comedy routines.

And unless you yourself is paying a woman less than you would a man, no it isn't your fault and no matter how paranoid you want to be, no one is saying it is. Awareness is another matter.
Banhammer
29-05-2004, 05:15
i think the pay should be equal, then employers have less incentive to hire females, therefore i get the job :D
Incertonia
29-05-2004, 05:31
You made her take the engine out of a car? Did she have to do it alone? I do not remember an engine being something one person could lift alone.
My old roommate (a chick) swapped three engines between two VW bugs in an afternoon. She would also do all the repairs on my car (a 914).

What women get paid in the workplace (which is measured vs. what men who do the same job, btw) has nothing to do with wether or not you pay for the movie. If they do the same job, they deserve the same money. Quite trying to apply public policy based on stand-up comedy routines.

And unless you yourself is paying a woman less than you would a man, no it isn't your fault and no matter how paranoid you want to be, no one is saying it is. Awareness is another matter.And besides, doesn't that movie logic mean that gay men are at the greatest advantage while lesbians are doubly hurt? Think of the lesbians, man!!!!!!!!!!!
Ryanania
29-05-2004, 05:32
If physically stronger males cannot give physically weaker women eqaul rights and still not show some old-fashioned respect, the world is learning nothing.

Horse pucky. My girl friend can take me in 2 out of 3 sword fights....Should she be opening doors for me ??? And paying for dinner ??You and your girlfriend swordfight? I guess that's one way of settling your arguments...
Cannot think of a name
29-05-2004, 05:33
You made her take the engine out of a car? Did she have to do it alone? I do not remember an engine being something one person could lift alone.
My old roommate (a chick) swapped three engines between two VW bugs in an afternoon. She would also do all the repairs on my car (a 914).

What women get paid in the workplace (which is measured vs. what men who do the same job, btw) has nothing to do with wether or not you pay for the movie. If they do the same job, they deserve the same money. Quite trying to apply public policy based on stand-up comedy routines.

And unless you yourself is paying a woman less than you would a man, no it isn't your fault and no matter how paranoid you want to be, no one is saying it is. Awareness is another matter.And besides, doesn't that movie logic mean that gay men are at the greatest advantage while lesbians are doubly hurt? Think of the lesbians, man!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:
Johnistan
29-05-2004, 05:34
Sword fight? Like what with wooden swords?

But that's just as much skill as in strength.
Kwangistar
29-05-2004, 05:36
I've been hearing a lot of complaining from hardline feminists
Thats not hardline feminists, those are basically any feminists at all.

The hardliners are the "All sex is rape" pro-abortion uber-liberal ones.
Ryanania
29-05-2004, 05:36
Sword fight? Like what with wooden swords?

But that's just as much skill as in strength.Not if you're using claymores.
Johnistan
29-05-2004, 05:38
Sword fight? Like what with wooden swords?

But that's just as much skill as in strength.Not if you're using claymores.

I know. Females have can have sufficient body strength to operate a claymore.
Ryanania
29-05-2004, 05:39
Sword fight? Like what with wooden swords?

But that's just as much skill as in strength.Not if you're using claymores.

I know. Females have can have sufficient body strength to operate a claymore.I know some. They scare me.
Johnistan
29-05-2004, 05:41
There's this one really jacked black girl that wants to fight apparently. I want to fight her, but it'd kinda look weird in the eyes of everyone.

White guy vs. black girl

Sounds like something in a trailer park.
Ryanania
29-05-2004, 07:05
There's this one really jacked black girl that wants to fight apparently. I want to fight her, but it'd kinda look weird in the eyes of everyone.

White guy vs. black girl

Sounds like something in a trailer park.For the love of God, don't fight a girl. That's one of the most time-honored rules of Western society.
UncleBob
29-05-2004, 07:07
I've been hearing a lot of complaining from hardline feminists that women make, on average, $1.25 less an hour.

Heaven forbid you look at beauty pageants that are clearly subjectification of women, but they choose pay.

When women start paying for dinner, movie (and snacks), flowers etc. I can see why you'd want the extra cash. And when do I get to leave a sinking ship first? When do I get to vacate a burning building first? You can't have your pudding if you don't eat your meat people.
http://www.geog.ucsb.edu/~jeff/earthgifs/world.gif

If physically stronger males cannot give physically weaker women eqaul rights and still not show some old-fashioned respect, the world is learning nothing.

My problem is with them wanting to be equal in privleges but not responsibilities.
Women who stay at my house have to work.
Just ask my neice when she came over and thought she wouldn't have to do a single thing just becuase she was a girl.
Ha. I made her mow the grass, cut the weeds, wash dishes, and move the engine out of the car we was working on.
Forgot what else I had her do. I know it was a long list cause I made the list due to her saying she didn't have to do any work just becuase she was a girl.
She ended up doing more work than everyone else. That taught her a thing or two about equality.

You made her take the engine out of a car? Did she have to do it alone? I do not remember an engine being something one person could lift alone.
No. I helped her just to make sure she did it.
UncleBob
29-05-2004, 07:09
I've been hearing a lot of complaining from hardline feminists that women make, on average, $1.25 less an hour.

Heaven forbid you look at beauty pageants that are clearly subjectification of women, but they choose pay.

When women start paying for dinner, movie (and snacks), flowers etc. I can see why you'd want the extra cash. And when do I get to leave a sinking ship first? When do I get to vacate a burning building first? You can't have your pudding if you don't eat your meat people.
http://www.geog.ucsb.edu/~jeff/earthgifs/world.gif

If physically stronger males cannot give physically weaker women eqaul rights and still not show some old-fashioned respect, the world is learning nothing.

My problem is with them wanting to be equal in privleges but not responsibilities.
Women who stay at my house have to work.
Just ask my neice when she came over and thought she wouldn't have to do a single thing just becuase she was a girl.
Ha. I made her mow the grass, cut the weeds, wash dishes, and move the engine out of the car we was working on.
Forgot what else I had her do. I know it was a long list cause I made the list due to her saying she didn't have to do any work just becuase she was a girl.
She ended up doing more work than everyone else. That taught her a thing or two about equality.

No, it just taught her a lot about her Uncle.
What are you trying to say?
By forcing to do some work, I made her into a much better person.
Dakini
29-05-2004, 07:31
hmm... well let's see. since i got a job, i've been insisting on paying for an outing with my bf (i try to chip in and i'll pay here and there, but he's the one who always has the job and i'm in school...) however, he won't let me take him out for a night of drinking, or pool, or to the movies. i paid for everything with my ex.
i'll usually get to a door first and try to hold it open... and then he'll wait until i go through before he will so it doesn't really work...

and let's not forget all the unpaid work that women have to do. women work more hours than men if you count paid work as well as unpaid work, and we still get paid much less.

in any case, you're an ass if you think that a woman with the same level of education, the same amount of experience who holds the same position as a man deserves to be paid less because men pay for dates more than women in your opinion.
29-05-2004, 07:33
hmm... well let's see. since i got a job, i've been insisting on paying for an outing with my bf (i try to chip in and i'll pay here and there, but he's the one who always has the job and i'm in school...) however, he won't let me take him out for a night of drinking, or pool, or to the movies. i paid for everything with my ex.
i'll usually get to a door first and try to hold it open... and then he'll wait until i go through before he will so it doesn't really work...

and let's not forget all the unpaid work that women have to do. women work more hours than men if you count paid work as well as unpaid work, and we still get paid much less.

in any case, you're an ass if you think that a woman with the same level of education, the same amount of experience who holds the same position as a man deserves to be paid less because men pay for dates more than women in your opinion.
don't discount all the unpaid work that men often do.