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Wow, to be so obese as to cause a heart attack at three years old. Plus, according to the Common's Health Committee, obesity in the UK has increased by over 400% within the last 25 years and 3/4 of all adults are now either overweight or obese.

And it's not just in the UK, either. The International Obesity Task Force has reported that obesity rates have risen 10-40% across all the major countries of the EU within the last 10 years. Apparently no one is eating very healthy.

Enjoy Atkins Diet mania, EU. :D

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3752597.stm

No diet is a substitute for healthy eating. This, sadly, is what often happens when sedentary American culture is imported.

whooo!

There is a good side to the obesity rate in the US... the fat kids are no longer picked on ;) THERE'S TOO MANY OF US! MUAHAHAHA

DP

No diet is a substitute for healthy eating. This, sadly, is what often happens when sedentary American culture is imported.

Er, wait, so even though UK and EU citizens are adults capable of making their own decisions regarding diet and exercise, the fact that the obesity issue is world wide is STILL the fault of the US?

Ah, that's cleard that up. Thanks for that Tactical Grace, I no longer feel bad over my lack of posting on NS.

The result of our lethargic culture...

No diet is a substitute for healthy eating. This, sadly, is what often happens when sedentary American culture is imported.

:lol:

I was wondering if we were going to be blamed for that....

No diet is a substitute for healthy eating. This, sadly, is what often happens when sedentary American culture is imported.

:lol:

I was wondering if we were going to be blamed for that....

Did you mean "when" rather than "if"?

SHL

PS - I'd write more but I need my full fat ice cream break.

whooo!

There is a good side to the obesity rate in the US... the fat kids are no longer picked on ;) THERE'S TOO MANY OF US! MUAHAHAHA

*prods Raysia in the gut*


heheheheheheheheheh

something to notice.. as these statistics of obesity have been going up in the past 50 years, so have the amounts of corn syrup used...
be careful of that stuff..

And it's not just in the UK, either. The International Obesity Task Force has reported that obesity rates have risen 10-40% across all the major countries of the EU within the last 10 years. Apparently no one is eating very healthy.

i'm just surprised there's actually an organization called the International Obesity Task Force. that sounds so ridiculous. i'm envisioning a big operations room, and all of a sudden all these alarms go off and someone yells "FAT PEOPLE ARE INVADING IRELAND FOR THE POTATO CROP!!!!!!!!" as brave anti-obesity warriors load their weapons with Slim-Fast cartridges and jump on board a transport helicopter.

No diet is a substitute for healthy eating. This, sadly, is what often happens when sedentary American culture is imported.

So....even though it's COMPLETELY the decision of the person to eat what they want...you still blame America?


Sad...very sad...

No diet is a substitute for healthy eating. This, sadly, is what often happens when sedentary American culture is imported.
So....even though it's COMPLETELY the decision of the person to eat what they want...you still blame America?

Sad...very sad...
Not really. You see, while an individual appears to have free choice, the masses are often stupid. Give the masses an additional choice, one that is not good for them, and they may choose it. Why blame the ignorant masses for acting against their own interests? Better to guide them appropriately. In this case, that would mean limiting their ability to choose this particular lifestyle. Thus, the lifestyle is at fault, and not the people. Paternalistic logic, yes, but it is a valid way of looking at things.

No diet is a substitute for healthy eating. This, sadly, is what often happens when sedentary American culture is imported.
So....even though it's COMPLETELY the decision of the person to eat what they want...you still blame America?

Sad...very sad...
Not really. You see, while an individual appears to have free choice, the masses are often stupid. Give the masses an additional choice, one that is not good for them, and they may choose it. Why blame the ignorant masses for acting against their own interests? Better to guide them appropriately. In this case, that would mean limiting their ability to choose this particular lifestyle. Thus, the lifestyle is at fault, and not the people. Paternalistic logic, yes, but it is a valid way of looking at things.

So...in the end....your saying that it's a big man in a McDonalds skyscraper that own's the company is at fault? Instead of America?

Blame the booming economies :D

So...in the end....your saying that it's a big man in a McDonalds skyscraper that own's the company is at fault? Instead of America?
Well, the corporations, and the culture they have spawned. American culture =/= America, of course.

No diet is a substitute for healthy eating. This, sadly, is what often happens when sedentary American culture is imported.
So....even though it's COMPLETELY the decision of the person to eat what they want...you still blame America?

Sad...very sad...
Not really. You see, while an individual appears to have free choice, the masses are often stupid. Give the masses an additional choice, one that is not good for them, and they may choose it. Why blame the ignorant masses for acting against their own interests? Better to guide them appropriately. In this case, that would mean limiting their ability to choose this particular lifestyle. Thus, the lifestyle is at fault, and not the people. Paternalistic logic, yes, but it is a valid way of looking at things.

We are here today, to mourn the death of personal accountability.

So...in the end....your saying that it's a big man in a McDonalds skyscraper that own's the company is at fault? Instead of America?
Well, the corporations, and the culture they have spawned. American culture =/= America, of course.

:roll:

So...in the end....your saying that it's a big man in a McDonalds skyscraper that own's the company is at fault? Instead of America?
Well, the corporations, and the culture they have spawned. American culture =/= America, of course.America has a culture?

We are here today, to mourn the death of personal accountability.

total personal accountability went out the window when we proved that the majority of people will do something that they think will kill somebody just because a guy in a lab coat tells them that should.

We are here today, to mourn the death of personal accountability.

total personal accountability went out the window when we proved that the majority of people will do something that they think will kill somebody just because a guy in a lab coat tells them that should.
wuh? :?:

total personal accountability went out the window when we proved that the majority of people will do something that they think will kill somebody just because a guy in a lab coat tells them that should.
wuh? :?:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

Well curse those darn Americans for spreading their sedenttary lifestyle. It amazes me that noone has yet pointed out that one of the major componets of the increase in obesity worldwide is H2O. Back in the good old days people had to go out and carry their water from the nearest source and hope it wasn't going to give them any of the excellent wieght loss tools like dysentary or cholera (a mild case of dysentary is good for losing 2 kilos no problem, a serious case can leave you thin enough to call Kate Moss a fatso). Now that the US has spread its sedentary lifestyle of not having to carry 10 kilos of water per person per day arround, peole are not getting the exercise they used to. Darn those Americans.

The causes of world wide obesity are an abudance of food and shifting from colorie burning agricultural jobs to less energy consuming industrial jobs. (watch phraseology, I rejected concepts like strenuous or physically demanding because they are not necessarily true.) Transportation is also a big factor, being able to take a bus the 20 KM to the city instead of walking it makes people fatter, but not as much as food and work. Urbanization is also a significant factor. McDonalds and TV are not significant factors worldwide and probably not even in the US.

No diet is a substitute for healthy eating. This, sadly, is what often happens when sedentary American culture is imported.Why do you think the US is the center of the world?

No diet is a substitute for healthy eating. This, sadly, is what often happens when sedentary American culture is imported.
Why do you think the US is the center of the world?
It isn't. Its culture is hegemonic, unfortunately.

No diet is a substitute for healthy eating. This, sadly, is what often happens when sedentary American culture is imported.
Why do you think the US is the center of the world?
It isn't. Its culture is hegemonic, unfortunately.

stop it

No diet is a substitute for healthy eating. This, sadly, is what often happens when sedentary American culture is imported.
You can't blame something on culture. Its lifestyle. Over here in Australia we haven't got half the things you Americans have (huge pretzels, cream filled doughnuts, Taco Bell, I could go on forever) but the point is that we got an obesity problem too.
Cos o lifestyle, not importing culture. The world is getting slack, and fat.

America has a culture?
heh heh. "Its funny cos its so true", Homer Simpson.

No diet is a substitute for healthy eating. This, sadly, is what often happens when sedentary American culture is imported.
Why do you think the US is the center of the world?
It isn't. Its culture is hegemonic, unfortunately.

stop it

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhh

What're you saying Valia?

You can't blame something
that something being fat people that is.

No diet is a substitute for healthy eating. This, sadly, is what often happens when sedentary American culture is imported.
Why do you think the US is the center of the world?
It isn't. Its culture is hegemonic, unfortunately.

stop it

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhh

What're you saying Valia?

hes blaming british obesity on the imported american culture

If you become fat, it's usually your fault. Not some country or culture. It's *your* fault. (Children don't count in this argument; if children ar fat it's usually the parents' fault). People should learn to take responsiblity for their own lives.

No diet is a substitute for healthy eating. This, sadly, is what often happens when sedentary American culture is imported.
Why do you think the US is the center of the world?
It isn't. Its culture is hegemonic, unfortunately.Well, if the US is to blame for every single problem on Earth, as you seem to think, wouldn't that make it the center of the world?

Im american and not fat... :?

Well, if the US is to blame for every single problem on Earth, as you seem to think, wouldn't that make it the center of the world?
Huh. And you think I am generalising? :roll:

whooo!

There is a good side to the obesity rate in the US... the fat kids are no longer picked on ;) THERE'S TOO MANY OF US! MUAHAHAHA

hahahah RMT is fat!!!

If you become fat, it's usually your fault. Not some country or culture. It's *your* fault. (Children don't count in this argument; if children ar fat it's usually the parents' fault). People should learn to take responsiblity for their own lives.


couldn't have said it better myself. Unless you have some obesity disease, STFU. I have one word for you....Atkins. Don't like being fat? Eat healthy. Nuff said

Well, if the US is to blame for every single problem on Earth, as you seem to think, wouldn't that make it the center of the world?
Huh. And you think I am generalising? :roll:I never said you were generalising I merely said that you always seem to find a way to blame the US for absolutely everything.

That's funny, I live in the UK and I only have like 7% fat as my entire body weight, and believe me, that is NOT fat.

No diet is a substitute for healthy eating. This, sadly, is what often happens when sedentary American culture is imported.

So....even though it's COMPLETELY the decision of the person to eat what they want...you still blame America?


Sad...very sad...
If people are too stupid to make sensible choices for themselves about their own health why should the rest ot the world run around wasting money on saving their asses. Let the fatties reap the rewards of their own lack of self control.

maybe a tax should be placed on junk food to stop people eating so much?

maybe a tax should be placed on junk food to stop people eating so much?
Heh, just try getting that through in the US . . .

it would make a whole ton of money off the fat people, that's for sure.

The Westernized countries have an obesity problem simply because they have become underchallenged, period. All their needs can be met without any serious physical effort. On top of that, just to make matters worse, everything indicates a serious self-control issue on their part. Meaning that they virtually have none. And so they end up indulging in all that may provide short term bliss at the expense of their future well-being.

Well, if the US is to blame for every single problem on Earth, as you seem to think, wouldn't that make it the center of the world?
Huh. And you think I am generalising? :roll:I never said you were generalising I merely said that you always seem to find a way to blame the US for absolutely everything.

I'd like to see what TG has to say on this.
(because I agree)

maybe a tax should be placed on junk food to stop people eating so much?

no no, we don't want them to stop eating so much...if somebody is so fundamentally stupid that they will eat themselves to death then we need to speed up the process so they die before producing equally flawed offspring.

my proposal is that every person have to sign a waiver on their health insurance, so that if they get sick as a result of their own stupidity (read: eating too much because damn that fried chicken is just too good) then they will get zero benefits and zero help from insurance or government. disability benefits should likewise be denied to anybody who gets themself morbidly obese, as well as anybody born after 1980 who gets sick as a result of smoking (cause our generation has grown up knowing the dangers of both).

i also support making people sign a waiver on their auto insurance/health insurance, renouncing all benefits in the event that they are injured or killed while not wearing a seat belt. people have the right to make stupid choices, and we shouldn't discourage them from doing so and getting their stupid selves killed off, but we should definitely make sure they can't get rich from being stupid.

No diet is a substitute for healthy eating. This, sadly, is what often happens when sedentary American culture is imported.I'm sorry TG, normally I have a healthy respect for you, but this a load.

Blaming America and its "culture" because people apparently like it too much is bs. As much as you may like to deny it, it is the responsibility of the individual, NOT society, to maintain the individuals health.


If you want a real reason for all of this, it's right in front of you.
Technology.
As humanity has progressed, we've had to do less and less physical labor in order to survive. Combine this with cheap and abundant food supplies in the 1sy world, and what do you get?
People who don't have to much physical labor and have a large amount of food on hand.

However, life is still based on choices.
The choice to eat healthy, the choice not to.
The choice to exercise, the choice to sit on your ass.
This are choices made by the individual, and non else.

I am sick and tired of having people blaming us because some jerkoff decided to eat McDonalds for 3 yrs straight.


The problem with the world today is not America, the problem is not terrorism or obesity. The problem is personal responsibility went out the window. It's never anyone's fault, it's always the "other guys". The other culture. The world's in the shitter because no one will take responsibility any more.

berserker, that was an awesome post. props, man.
you don't happen to play the piano, do you? sorry, thats kinda random.. but i swear its relevant too

Wow, to be so obese as to cause a heart attack at three years old. Plus, according to the Common's Health Committee, obesity in the UK has increased by over 400% within the last 25 years and 3/4 of all adults are now either overweight or obese.

And it's not just in the UK, either. The International Obesity Task Force has reported that obesity rates have risen 10-40% across all the major countries of the EU within the last 10 years. Apparently no one is eating very healthy.

Enjoy Atkins Diet mania, EU. :D

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3752597.stm
It's not just in the US or EU either. China now has an obesity rate of 10%. Very ironic, considering that famines were caused thirty years ago. And I'm guessing that this, like every other ill in the world, is the fault of America, right?

It's not just in the US or EU either. China now has an obesity rate of 10%. Very ironic, considering that famines were caused thirty years ago. And I'm guessing that this, like every other ill in the world, is the fault of America, right?

i don't know, is 10% much higher than it ever was? i bet something like 10% of china has some amount of political power - and the rich and powerful always eat well, even when there are famines.

It's not just in the US or EU either. China now has an obesity rate of 10%. Very ironic, considering that famines were caused thirty years ago. And I'm guessing that this, like every other ill in the world, is the fault of America, right?

Apparently. I'm sure it'll be hung on us somehow.

It's not just in the US or EU either. China now has an obesity rate of 10%. Very ironic, considering that famines were caused thirty years ago. And I'm guessing that this, like every other ill in the world, is the fault of America, right?

i don't know, is 10% much higher than it ever was? i bet something like 10% of china has some amount of political power - and the rich and powerful always eat well, even when there are famines.
Whoever this 10% is, it's a lot of people. Considering that the nation has 1.2 billion people, it's still 120 million fat people, or a little less than a half of the US population.

It's not just in the US or EU either. China now has an obesity rate of 10%. Very ironic, considering that famines were caused thirty years ago. And I'm guessing that this, like every other ill in the world, is the fault of America, right?

Apparently. I'm sure it'll be hung on us somehow.
I already know of a way to blame the villain of the world: the Midwest and Great Plains are the biggest producing agricultural regions on the planet.

No diet is a substitute for healthy eating. This, sadly, is what often happens when sedentary American culture is imported.
Why do you think the US is the center of the world?
It isn't. Its culture is hegemonic, unfortunately.

stop it

Yes, stop it.

That's funny, I live in the UK and I only have like 7% fat as my entire body weight, and believe me, that is NOT fat.
Actually, that's dangerously thin. You might want to consider seeing a doctor.

something to notice.. as these statistics of obesity have been going up in the past 50 years, so have the amounts of corn syrup used...
be careful of that stuff..

actually some people say the cause of the obesity is because of the low fat craze. Now everything has sugar (or both). If you look at the label on every processed product it will have corn syrup. Maybe people are eating the same as before, but now it has more calories.