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Bush shook hands with the devil!

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/bushanddevil.jpg

Seriously you guys, you all heard Al-Goreda's moronic rant earlier today.... I just feel this pic describes my impression form his little "Bush is Evil" and "He thinks iraqis have no souls" speech or whatever the crap he was trying to tell us all.

Seriously though, think like a terrorist for a second. If you heard a recent former vice present tell his countrymen that Bush was evil, and that his administration was evil, and that he shook hands with the devil, and that he is the cause of terrorism, and that we need to give the terrorists what they want... would you not be encouraged/enboldened? how on earth does this moronic little speech HELp the US?

And on another note, I'd like to thank Hillary, Gore, Kerry, and kennedy, for running their own little campaign FOR the repubs. Seriously, the more we listen to these idiots, the more we'd rather have Bushy in office :) This also happens to be Bush's primary campaign plan, for those of you who haven't noticed... Bush lets these guys make up weird theories and accusations... refuses to respond more than simply, and then a month later, the theories wind up being bogus, and do nothing but hurt the idiots who came up with them. If Bush keeps playing things cool, and holds to his promises, he's got this election locked in, no contest.

Bush looks so much younger in that picture. You see what four years as president does to a guy.

I do not know where your logic comes from. I do believe that it is time for you to grow up politically and spiritually and realize what type of dangerous leadership the United States has. The first step toward us loosing alot of our precious rights. Big brother is watching you and he is the devil :evil:

I do not know where your logic comes from. I do believe that it is time for you to grow up politically and spiritually and realize what type of dangerous leadership the United States has. The first step toward us loosing alot of our precious rights. Big brother is watching you and he is the devil :evil:The problem is your theory lies on the assumption that Bush is greedy and that the patriot act is a gateway to absolutionism or dictatorship or republic, or whatever... the problem with you theory is, you are wrong.

Have faith, my friend. The patriot act ain't what it's hyped up to be. Abu Grahib ain't what it's hyped up to be. and John kerry ain't all he's hyped up to be :)

I do not know where your logic comes from. I do believe that it is time for you to grow up politically and spiritually and realize what type of dangerous leadership the United States has. The first step toward us loosing alot of our precious rights. Big brother is watching you and he is the devil :evil:

Tell that to the lawyer we "detained" on suspicion of being involved in the Madrid bombing. Without a trial. Without rights. Because we screwed up the fingerprint identification.

Patriot Act: Maybe Not Potent, But Certainly Not Powerless.

I do not know where your logic comes from. I do believe that it is time for you to grow up politically and spiritually and realize what type of dangerous leadership the United States has. The first step toward us loosing alot of our precious rights. Big brother is watching you and he is the devil :evil:

Tell that to the lawyer we "detained" on suspicion of being involved in the Madrid bombing. Without a trial. Without rights. Because we screwed up the fingerprint identification.

Patriot Act: Maybe Not Potent, But Certainly Not Powerless.If you found out that the fingerprints on a bomb in madrid matched your next-door muslim neighbor, you'd probably want him investigated as well.

They had warrants, they had cause, the only thing they didn't have was validation on spain's fingerprint teams.... turns out they screwed up, and the prints matched a known terrorist in the middle-east.

They apologized... compensation would be nice, but not necessary... move on.

The patriot act? maybe ok... but the thing that really ticks me off, and that no one seems to complain much about, is Bush's ridiculous tax cut! How can he get off saying that more money is allocated to the poor than to the rich when the top 1/5 of a percintile receive as much money as the bottom 90%??

The patriot act? maybe ok... but the thing that really ticks me off, and that no one seems to complain much about, is Bush's ridiculous tax cut! How can he get off saying that more money is allocated to the poor than to the rich when the top 1/5 of a percintile receive as much money as the bottom 90%??You're talking about welfare vs government grants... two different things there... grants are for business or investments, welfare is money for the poor.

Either way, Tax cuts don't give people more welfare, they allow people to keep more money.

Exaggerated, Welfare is saying "here, you pay us 30 percent, and we'll give you 10 percent," while tax cuts say "you give us 20%, we'll let you keep the rest."

I do not know where your logic comes from. I do believe that it is time for you to grow up politically and spiritually and realize what type of dangerous leadership the United States has. The first step toward us loosing alot of our precious rights. Big brother is watching you and he is the devil :evil:The problem is your theory lies on the assumption that Bush is greedy and that the patriot act is a gateway to absolutionism or dictatorship or republic, or whatever... the problem with you theory is, you are wrong.

Have faith, my friend. The patriot act ain't what it's hyped up to be. Abu Grahib ain't what it's hyped up to be. and John kerry ain't all he's hyped up to be :)

What has george bush done?

I do not know where your logic comes from. I do believe that it is time for you to grow up politically and spiritually and realize what type of dangerous leadership the United States has. The first step toward us loosing alot of our precious rights. Big brother is watching you and he is the devil :evil:The problem is your theory lies on the assumption that Bush is greedy and that the patriot act is a gateway to absolutionism or dictatorship or republic, or whatever... the problem with you theory is, you are wrong.

Have faith, my friend. The patriot act ain't what it's hyped up to be. Abu Grahib ain't what it's hyped up to be. and John kerry ain't all he's hyped up to be :)

What has george bush done?Probably more then we'll ever know. We don't know how many terror attacks have been averted, we don't know how much influence the democratic movement in the middle east will have on terrorism... we just don't see it yet. but the point is, we are taking action. Being proactive is a ton better than reactive when it comes to terrorism.

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I thought you guys considered Clinton the Devil?

I do not know where your logic comes from. I do believe that it is time for you to grow up politically and spiritually and realize what type of dangerous leadership the United States has. The first step toward us loosing alot of our precious rights. Big brother is watching you and he is the devil :evil:

Look, I'm not leaning one way or another on this issue. I mean, I support Bush, but I'm not about to start mudslinging.

I'm just pointing out that you shouldn't tell people to grow up and act superior when you don't know how to spell "losing" and you don't realize that "a lot" is two separate words. You're also missing end punctuation on your last sentence. Proofread before namecalling. Tsk tsk.

I've seen Raysia's pic. I can safely say he is no older then maybe 18..He has not lived yet.. he parrots the Republican neo-con line.. He repeats what he is told. Give the kid a chance, he'll grow up politically sooner or later.. Hey, some one actually told my husband the other night that they know every thing about politics because they voted in the last election and have been politically active for 3 years..lol It could be worse.. Just patpat Ray.. He'll learn.. at least I hope. ;)

What has george bush done?Probably more then we'll ever know. We don't know how many terror attacks have been averted, we don't know how much influence the democratic movement in the middle east will have on terrorism... we just don't see it yet. but the point is, we are taking action. Being proactive is a ton better than reactive when it comes to terrorism.

Ahaha. Well isnt that just great? Why do you think that there werent Anti-terror Safeguards before Sept. 11? Its not as I'f there were none, there were tons.

I do not know where your logic comes from. I do believe that it is time for you to grow up politically and spiritually and realize what type of dangerous leadership the United States has. The first step toward us loosing alot of our precious rights. Big brother is watching you and he is the devil :evil:The problem is your theory lies on the assumption that Bush is greedy and that the patriot act is a gateway to absolutionism or dictatorship or republic, or whatever... the problem with you theory is, you are wrong.

Have faith, my friend. The patriot act ain't what it's hyped up to be. Abu Grahib ain't what it's hyped up to be. and John kerry ain't all he's hyped up to be :)

Faith is a poor substitute for reason and logic.

True Kerry isn't that great, but it's the lesser of two evils, if only slightly.

I've seen Raysia's pic. I can safely say he is no older then maybe 18..He has not lived yet.. he parrots the Republican neo-con line.. He repeats what he is told. Give the kid a chance, he'll grow up politically sooner or later.. Hey, some one actually told my husband the other night that they know every thing about politics because they voted in the last election and have been politically active for 3 years..lol It could be worse.. Just patpat Ray.. He'll learn.. at least I hope. ;)yes, because we all know that stephistan and zeppistan are the ultimate authority on right and wrong when it comes to political idealism *roll*

Yes, steph, i want to grow up to be just like you and your hubby! Atheist, Liberal, and Anti-Everything decent! :)

What has george bush done?Probably more then we'll ever know. We don't know how many terror attacks have been averted, we don't know how much influence the democratic movement in the middle east will have on terrorism... we just don't see it yet. but the point is, we are taking action. Being proactive is a ton better than reactive when it comes to terrorism.

Ahaha. Well isnt that just great? Why do you think that there werent Anti-terror Safeguards before Sept. 11? Its not as I'f there were none, there were tons.and yet, because of anti-profiling political correctness, the terrorists were able to waltz in, learn to fly, hop on a plane, kill the pilots, and run it into the WTC... yeah, those safeguards really work well when handcuffed by political correctness :)

What has george bush done?Probably more then we'll ever know. We don't know how many terror attacks have been averted, we don't know how much influence the democratic movement in the middle east will have on terrorism... we just don't see it yet. but the point is, we are taking action. Being proactive is a ton better than reactive when it comes to terrorism.

Ahaha. Well isnt that just great? Why do you think that there werent Anti-terror Safeguards before Sept. 11? Its not as I'f there were none, there were tons.and yet, because of anti-profiling political correctness, the terrorists were able to waltz in, learn to fly, hop on a plane, kill the pilots, and run it into the WTC... yeah, those safeguards really work well when handcuffed by political correctness :)

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Yes, steph, i want to grow up to be just like you and your hubby! Atheist, Liberal, and Anti-Everything decent! :) Since when did being atheist and progressive make a person anti-everything decent? You have a lot of learning to do.

Yes, steph, i want to grow up to be just like you and your hubby! Atheist, Liberal, and Anti-Everything decent! :)

Ah rayia you forgot to insult Their newborn baby. Better go back and edit.

Yes, steph, i want to grow up to be just like you and your hubby! Atheist, Liberal, and Anti-Everything decent! :)

Ah rayia you forgot to insult Their newborn baby. Better go back and edit.
:lol:

Ok that actually made me laugh!

Thanks!

Yes, steph, i want to grow up to be just like you and your hubby!

Well I can understand that.. but between my husband and I we have about 40 years on you.. It might take a while to grow up that much ;)

Bush is bad for civil rights, the environment, minority rights, and the poor.

Bush seems to be good for national defense.

END OF STORY

If this is the president you want, fine. If not, just don't vote for him. It's as simple as that, and what's frighetining is that Bush is still more of a Nazi than Raysia.

Raysia. It's time I owned you in an online debate. IM me on my screen name mwazzap.

And btw, there is no arguement to any of the aforementioned points.

Poverty: The "trickle down affect" is proven bullsh!t, and was what made Thatcher so evil.
Environment: The "Clean Air Act" allows 3 times as many toxin admissions.
Civil Rights: 1 in 7 people are gay, fetuses have less of a soul than cows, Jesus was the only human who should ever have to suffer an agonizing death.

These are just a few preemptives, don't test me, it's finals this week, and Im ready to clear house. oh, and btw, Bush's score of 1260 on the SATs is pathetic. What an idiot. The world shakes its head in disdain, and I'm pulling my hair out as I'm trapped in dogmatic conservative scum land.

What? No Deatment? Damn, and here I was gettin all Hot and bothered for Nothin.

Yes, steph, i want to grow up to be just like you and your hubby! Atheist, Liberal, and Anti-Everything decent! :)

Ah rayia you forgot to insult Their newborn baby. Better go back and edit.

Umm, we have a 6 year old son too, he really shouldn't be left out.. it wouldn't be fair.... :lol:

Bush looks so much younger in that picture. You see what four years as president does to a guy.

He used to look like a chimp, now he looks like a gorrilla

That's quite funny. :lol:

I do not know where your logic comes from. I do believe that it is time for you to grow up politically and spiritually and realize what type of dangerous leadership the United States has. The first step toward us loosing alot of our precious rights. Big brother is watching you and he is the devil :evil:
If you aint doing shit wrong, you aint got shit to worry about.

I do not know where your logic comes from. I do believe that it is time for you to grow up politically and spiritually and realize what type of dangerous leadership the United States has. The first step toward us loosing alot of our precious rights. Big brother is watching you and he is the devil :evil:
If you aint doing shit wrong, you aint got shit to worry about.

Right,but then what happens when you "ain't done shit wrong" and can prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt,and they still come after you?

Bush is bad for civil rights, the environment, minority rights, and the poor.

Bush seems to be good for national defense.

END OF STORYYou mean, Bush is bad for Criminal rights, Suspected Terrorist Rights, Gay Rights, Abortion Rights, Lazy Rights, and Treehugger rights.... yeah... so what?

If this is the president you want, fine. If not, just don't vote for him. It's as simple as that, and what's frighetining is that Bush is still more of a Nazi than Raysia.Bush... a Nazi... umm... right... in case you didn't know, bush is one of the few conservatives that believes that Islam is a religion of Peace... after all we've been through, I'm proud of him for not obtaining a nazi-like kill-them-all mentality.

Raysia. It's time I owned you in an online debate. IM me on my screen name mwazzap.Whatever. JordanSean18

And btw, there is no arguement to any of the aforementioned points.You don't have points, you have only lies :)

Poverty: The "trickle down affect" is proven bullsh!t, and was what made Thatcher so evil.OK, so we should go back to clinton's "growth" policy of keeping the jobless jobless. Tax cuts means more money means more individual wealth means more small business means more economy means more jobs. Give it time. Like everything Bush does, these are long-term plans, because short-term plans are nothing more than quick fixes.
Civil Rights: 1 in 7 people are gay,Bullcrap. fetuses have less of a soul than cows,you want to tell me that mostly-developed fetuses who undergo partial birth abortions feel no pain when they are mutilated to death? Jesus was the only human who should ever have to suffer an agonizing death.? I miss your point here...

These are just a few preemptives, don't test me, it's finals this week, and Im ready to clear house. oh, and btw, Bush's score of 1260 on the SATs is pathetic. What an idiot. The world shakes its head in disdain, and I'm pulling my hair out as I'm trapped in dogmatic conservative scum land.I could care less about his SAT scores. He's got chracter, clarity, and courage. he has speech writers and advisors for the other detail crap.

I do not know where your logic comes from. I do believe that it is time for you to grow up politically and spiritually and realize what type of dangerous leadership the United States has. The first step toward us loosing alot of our precious rights. Big brother is watching you and he is the devil :evil:
If you aint doing shit wrong, you aint got shit to worry about.

Right,but then what happens when you "ain't done shit wrong" and can prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt,and they still come after you?....example?

Jesus Tapdancing Christ... what planet is Ray on? He's a scientologist or something isn't he?

If Bush keeps playing things cool, and holds to his promises, he's got this election locked in, no contest.

You mean holding to promises like this?

"I will be a uniter not a divider."

"We have to have a humble foreign policy."

"We're going to change the tone in Washington."

BTW,I think Rummy also shook hands with the devil...

http://www.bronek.org/blogs/weblog/images/handshake300.jpg

Jesus Tapdancing Christ... what planet is Ray on? He's a scientologist or something isn't he?Why must you resort to name calling? If you want to say something, say it.

Jesus Tapdancing Christ... what planet is Ray on? He's a scientologist or something isn't he?Why must you resort to name calling? If you want to say something, say it.Name calling? :?:

....example?

How about that lawyer who was under suspicion for the Madrid bombings?

I'm not partisan, but i think that Al Gore lost it after the last presidential election. :x

If Bush keeps playing things cool, and holds to his promises, he's got this election locked in, no contest.

You mean holding to promises like this?

"I will be a uniter not a divider."It all started with the election... conspiracy theories came out against him winning the election despite the popular vote... he could't help it, it's the electoral college! A lot of the anti-bush crap started there.

"We have to have a humble foreign policy."hmmm... I bet this was stated pre-9/11 :)

"We're going to change the tone in Washington."Well, yeah, that happened... there are more conservative voices in DC now.

BTW,I think Rummy also shook hands with the devil...

http://www.bronek.org/blogs/weblog/images/handshake300.jpgwhat is that, like 20 years ago? Who cares? We're fixing that mistake right now!

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/bushanddevil.jpg



I bet Gore had to take a shower to get the evil slime off....

....example?

How about that lawyer who was under suspicion for the Madrid bombings?when they proved the evidence was faulty, he was released, and the FBI apologized... what's your point?

he was held for... what... a week? 2 weeks? They had good reason too. And as soon as they found out their reason was faulty, he was released. What, you prefer we sit on fingerprint evidence for a year before we arrest a terrorist suspect? Especially a muslim?

Jesus Tapdancing Christ... what planet is Ray on? He's a scientologist or something isn't he?

He is a mormon, and no one knows what is wrong with him. I think he has trollitus.

Jesus Tapdancing Christ... what planet is Ray on? He's a scientologist or something isn't he?

He is a mormon, and no one knows what is wrong with him. I think he has trollitus.lol the only problem I have is that I'm not a liberal... and I don't intend to change :)

Then I would say none of you kave said anything intelligent at all in this thread. It started with a few accusations and some numbers being flung around, but since then it has become nothing but an insult fest, with the only real arguments on either side being:

probush:
Have faith, you can't count things prevented, and "Liberals are anti-everything decent"

antibush:
Skewed economic sense, environmental Slack, and "Conservatives will grow up eventually"

I saddens me that you consider yourselves "politically active" and everytime you get into a political discussion, intelligent debate gives way to demoralizing (though often witty, I'll give you that) and progression-HALTING insult contests.

How about some real arguments?

For:
Bush has brought the country closer together; Bush has liberated the Iraqis from Saddam Hussein; THe economy has actually done better in the past four years than in the 8 years of Clinton; His strong sense of morals has projected to the world that America won't take it laying down

Against:
Bush makes all Americans look like cowboys in the public arena; Bush's orignal basis for the attack on Iraq is baloney, and he now looks like a warmonger; His SAT score is embarrasing; Current economic conditions are a better indicator of Previous presidencies; His Clean skies intiative makes things worse for the environment; His foreign policy has left us nearly friendless in the world powers;

For:
Cowboys command respect; So he was wrong, everyboy makes mistakes!; Because the congress and Supreme Court Check the president's power, his intelligence is not a matter of importance, so long as those runnig behind the scenes are intelligent; His clean skies Initiative will allo companies to make more money, bettering the economy, providing more money for research, causing less expensive and more effective pollution control; What about the countries mentioned in the State of the Union address?

Against:
* how bout you guys take the cue from here*

in one post I have brought forth more arguments for one side than have been brought up period by all of you in two pages. All without insulting anyone for their opinons.

Now for you Psychoanalysts out there, try to guess:
my age
my sex
my politcal alignment
my Sexual orientation

-1 in 7 people are homosexual: 1 in 10 are gay, 1 in 20 are lesbian.
-Fetuses havent developed neurons at the time they are incapacitate.
-Guilty until proven innocent
-Allow me to reiterate: the trickle down affect doesn't work, it has been tried. It doesn't even make sense economically. Ask anyone who's taken micro and macroeconomics.
-People with a lesser education deserve to have a bit of an advantage, if you don't like this advantage, pay for their better education.
-the Clean Skies Act allows 3 times as many toxic emissions as before

Wait, you know what. I'm not going to bother lsiting all this sh!t. We all know Bush cares nothing for the environment, and it's obvious that Raysia doesn't care either. He's an unabashed twisted moron.

Fine, you only care about keeping women gays blacks and nonchristians in check, gun rights, money, and the right to treat suspects like criminals.

I get it. You're an asshole.
I'm sorry I wasted my breath. I'll just watch as the world finally realizes they just have to nuke the bible belt while Im standing on the learned costal urban regions laughing by butt off.

cawlm is great.

Hey people, quite a lot of insults and personal name calling going on, please knock it off.. Thank you.

Stephanie
Game Moderator

"We have to have a humble foreign policy."hmmm... I bet this was stated pre-9/11 :)


Before 9/11 Bush was picking fights with China. But of course, nothing is his fault. That's the guy who was supposed to bring integrity and accountability to the White House, but he can't even take responsability for falling off a bike....

Then I would say none of you kave said anything intelligent at all in this thread. It started with a few accusations and some numbers being flung around, but since then it has become nothing but an insult fest, with the only real arguments on either side being:

probush:
Have faith, you can't count things prevented, and "Liberals are anti-everything decent"

antibush:
Skewed economic sense, environmental Slack, and "Conservatives will grow up eventually"

I saddens me that you consider yourselves "politically active" and everytime you get into a political discussion, intelligent debate gives way to demoralizing (though often witty, I'll give you that) and progression-HALTING insult contests.

How about some real arguments?

For:
Bush has brought the country closer together; Bush has liberated the Iraqis from Saddam Hussein; THe economy has actually done better in the past four years than in the 8 years of Clinton; His strong sense of morals has projected to the world that America won't take it laying down

Against:
Bush makes all Americans look like cowboys in the public arena; Bush's orignal basis for the attack on Iraq is baloney, and he now looks like a warmonger; His SAT score is embarrasing; Current economic conditions are a better indicator of Previous presidencies; His Clean skies intiative makes things worse for the environment; His foreign policy has left us nearly friendless in the world powers;

For:
Cowboys command respect; So he was wrong, everyboy makes mistakes!; Because the congress and Supreme Court Check the president's power, his intelligence is not a matter of importance, so long as those runnig behind the scenes are intelligent; His clean skies Initiative will allo companies to make more money, bettering the economy, providing more money for research, causing less expensive and more effective pollution control; What about the countries mentioned in the State of the Union address?

Against:
* how bout you guys take the cue from here*

in one post I have brought forth more arguments for one side than have been brought up period by all of you in two pages. All without insulting anyone for their opinons.

Now for you Psychoanalysts out there, try to guess:
my age
my sex
my politcal alignment
my Sexual orientationExcellent First Post :)

Jesus Tapdancing Christ... what planet is Ray on? He's a scientologist or something isn't he?Why must you resort to name calling? If you want to say something, say it.Name calling? :?:

Yes, it is insulting to call people Christian. Now stop that, before the mods ban you. :roll:

Wait, you know what. I'm not going to bother lsiting all this sh!t. We all know Bush cares nothing for the environment, and it's obvious that Raysia doesn't care either. He's an unabashed twisted moron.

Fine, you only care about keeping women gays blacks and nonchristians in check, gun rights, money, and the right to treat suspects like criminals.

I get it. You're an asshole.
I'm sorry I wasted my breath. I'll just watch as the world finally realizes they just have to nuke the bible belt while Im standing on the learned costal urban regions laughing by butt off.

This is exaclty what I mean. I hope can all learn to disagree in peaceful dissonance THe freedom of assembly is, after all, still free for a reason.

I get it. You're an asshole.

I was more talking about comments like this one.. You weren't the only one.. but... no, calling some one a Christian is not an insult to every one.. ;)

-1 in 7 people are homosexual: 1 in 10 are gay, 1 in 20 are lesbian.Based on what? The only statistics ever used in court said something like 2%. Where do you get this 14% stuff? I want to know what survey shows this... you guys keep throwing around these numbers, with no factual basis.
-Fetuses havent developed neurons at the time they are incapacitate.In partial birth abortions? Surely they have neurons when they are only a few months from birth...
-Guilty until proven innocentMore like, Suspect until not.
-People with a lesser education deserve to have a bit of an advantage, if you don't like this advantage, pay for their better education.People could at least stick out high school.

Wait, you know what. I'm not going to bother lsiting all this sh!t. We all know Bush cares nothing for the environment, and it's obvious that Raysia doesn't care either. He's an unabashed twisted moron.OK, that's called flaming. Cut it out.

Fine, you only care about keeping women gays blacks and nonchristians in check, gun rights, money, and the right to treat suspects like criminals.Excuse me?

I get it. You're an asshole.
I'm sorry I wasted my breath. I'll just watch as the world finally realizes they just have to nuke the bible belt while Im standing on the learned costal urban regions laughing by butt off.Modalert...

Jesus Tapdancing Christ... what planet is Ray on? He's a scientologist or something isn't he?Why must you resort to name calling? If you want to say something, say it.Name calling? :?:

Yes, it is insulting to call people Christian. Now stop that, before the mods ban you. :roll:Damn. I really am attached to this country :(

I think we just need a GROUP HUG! :mrgreen: :D :lol: :) :o :roll: :( :cry:

I don't have any beef with Scientologists. Give my a BIG HUG, Ray.

Modalert...

I already told every one to knock off the insults and name calling...

For the love of all that is good and holy, please someone, anyone (and I have never asked for this before) lock this thread.

Fine, sorry. I'll stop. But can we still have that group hug? :lol:

For the love of all that is good and holy, please someone, anyone (and I have never asked for this before) lock this thread.

Yeah, I guess it has gone a bit too far..

iLock

Stephanie
Game Moderator