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Gay issues in a Straight world

26-05-2004, 09:44
...The Rainbow Continues...(original thread and recent addition of Part II lost due to server problems)
New Fuglies
26-05-2004, 09:47
...The Rainbow Continues...(original thread and recent addition of Part II lost due to server problems)OK I give up, I am gay, I have sex with men coz they're just so daggum sexy and I'm damn proud of it!!! :roll:
Todovostok
26-05-2004, 09:50
I can't say I've had sex yet, but I'm proud to be gay as well. Huzzah!
26-05-2004, 10:31
...The Rainbow Continues...(original thread and recent addition of Part II lost due to server problems)OK I give up, I am gay, I have sex with men coz they're just so daggum sexy and I'm damn proud of it!!! :roll:

LMAO You are not gay.
Kirtondom
26-05-2004, 10:39
...The Rainbow Continues...(original thread and recent addition of Part II lost due to server problems)OK I give up, I am gay, I have sex with men coz they're just so daggum sexy and I'm damn proud of it!!! :roll:

LMAO You are not gay.
He seams pretty happy to me. :lol:
New Fuglies
26-05-2004, 10:45
...The Rainbow Continues...(original thread and recent addition of Part II lost due to server problems)OK I give up, I am gay, I have sex with men coz they're just so daggum sexy and I'm damn proud of it!!! :roll:

LMAO You are not gay.

Shhh don't tell anyone. :oops:
26-05-2004, 10:52
...The Rainbow Continues...(original thread and recent addition of Part II lost due to server problems)OK I give up, I am gay, I have sex with men coz they're just so daggum sexy and I'm damn proud of it!!! :roll:

LMAO You are not gay.

Shhh don't tell anyone. :oops:

LOL...

Ok well there are some help groups for coming to terms with your heterosexuality :lol: I know it is not easy being straight, but you will survive the experience I am sure :wink:
26-05-2004, 10:56
Yes...I admit...

I am straight. Please do not think less of me for I am the same person. Being heterosexual is not my defining attribute. My life is not all about flaunting the fact that as a guy I like girls.

True, I had to endure the perils of school yard bullying and was forced to put up with verbal abuses like "breeder" and "straight scum"...but in the end I was stronger for it.

:lol:
27-05-2004, 10:51
Ok...

Gay Marriage to be banned forever in Australia with legislation set to be passed defining marriage as a permanent union between a man and a woman.

On the news tonight, gay rights groups came out in disgust (and wearing pink, frilly things - the flamers :evil: )

You know...like wako tree huggers, if the ultra camp gays toned themselves down just a smidge they might actually get people to listen about gay rights...

When guys wearing pink, tight pants and throwing glitter everywhere demand that they should be married one cannot blame society for telling them to shut up and get back in the closet.
Dezzan
27-05-2004, 10:58
I wonder why it should matter so much what people wear?

My clothes don't define me...i'm the same me whether i'm wearing my dark blue smart suit and toned-down jewellry or glitzy top and wild wild earrings...

...and, i don't know how to say this but i'm a woman who...dresses like a man. Yes, i have to admit it...i wear trousers :oops:

Sure is a crazy world :D
New Fuglies
27-05-2004, 10:58
Ok...

Gay Marriage to be banned forever in Australia with legislation set to be passed defining marriage as a permanent union between a man and a woman.

On the news tonight, gay rights groups came out in disgust (and wearing pink, frilly things - the flamers :evil: )

You know...like wako tree huggers, if the ultra camp gays toned themselves down just a smidge they might actually get people to listen about gay rights...

When guys wearing pink, tight pants and throwing glitter everywhere demand that they should be married one cannot blame society for telling them to shut up and get back in the closet.

Ya'd think with Australia's penal colony heritage, they'd be a bit more open-minded about "male bonding" and we all know everyone loves lebians. :P
Dezzan
27-05-2004, 11:02
And i reckon men should be able to marry men and women marry women if that's what they want.

Why shouldn't they have their love and committment formally acknowledged by society the same as heterosexual couples can?
Dezzan
27-05-2004, 11:03
we all know everyone loves lebians. :P

Er...we do? I don't...i mean...i only know one and she's a great woman but i wouldn't go as far as to say i love her...not yet anyways :wink:
Smeagol-Gollum
27-05-2004, 11:20
Ok...

Gay Marriage to be banned forever in Australia with legislation set to be passed defining marriage as a permanent union between a man and a woman.

On the news tonight, gay rights groups came out in disgust (and wearing pink, frilly things - the flamers :evil: )

You know...like wako tree huggers, if the ultra camp gays toned themselves down just a smidge they might actually get people to listen about gay rights...

When guys wearing pink, tight pants and throwing glitter everywhere demand that they should be married one cannot blame society for telling them to shut up and get back in the closet.

With the legislation being prepared by, championed by, and introduced by the Liberal government of John Howard, which I have frequently seen you defend in other threads.

The Liberals (for non Australian readers, please note the capital "L", these people are conservatives) have never been known for their support of human rights, quite the opposite.

Given this opportunity to play wedge politics before an election, what did you expect?
27-05-2004, 12:00
I do recall asking spammers to stay away from this thread...

Hi Smeagol :roll:

Well Liberals are all for human rights as much as the ALP are. Under Whitlam, Labor allowed Indonesian troops slaughter innocent East Timorese and Labor turned a blind eye to Saddam's murderous regime until the USA pushed for intervention (although on a separate issue).

From what I have seen, no party is truly committed to human rights.
Smeagol-Gollum
27-05-2004, 12:15
I do recall asking spammers to stay away from this thread...

Hi Smeagol :roll:

Well Liberals are all for human rights as much as the ALP are. Under Whitlam, Labor allowed Indonesian troops slaughter innocent East Timorese and Labor turned a blind eye to Saddam's murderous regime until the USA pushed for intervention (although on a separate issue).

From what I have seen, no party is truly committed to human rights.

Please advise how my post could be regarded as spam.
Please check the definition of "spam".
If in doubt, feel free to refer this matter to the Moderators.
Or is any post which does not agree with you to be defined as "spam"?
27-05-2004, 14:36
LOL Smeagol :lol: You follow me around like a lost puppy. Whenever I post, you reply with some over-the-top propaganda for left leaning political parties.

Wonder why that is :lol:

Mark...is that you? :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Dezzan
27-05-2004, 14:46
Think i'll start calling you Frodo, Ben :D

Can i be Sam?

Y'know...i think part of the problem with politics is that there are political parties which have certain 'beliefs' and people have to try and squeeze themselves into the party and make *their* beliefs conform to the party beliefs...and I would say that that isn't always possible.

That's why i keep out of politics...i have thought-out-views on many topics but each topic is separate and treated as such. Belonging to a political party would mean having to confine my thinking.

That may seem a bit off the thread BUT i was thinking of what you've said of your views on the topic of this thread Ben...and political affiliations...
27-05-2004, 14:52
I understand what you are saying about confining yourself to a certain set of beliefs...

From experience I have found this to be so.

Somehow I am allowed to support private enterprise, yet I must be against gay rights.

How does that work?

It is not necessarily a philosophy as such, but what groups control political parties.

For example:

the Australian Labor Party is controlled by Trade Unions and their policies reflect the socialist minded (give everyone an equal wage) ideology.

the Liberals are controlled by the church, hence the ban on gay marriage.

Yet big business influences both parties (donations) and it is always interesting to see both the Libs and ALP come out with policies on small business, but they always leave the big guns alone!

...

but back to gay issues.

Apparently Bob Brown (Greens Senator) is gay...Is this true??? :shock:
Klan Weis
27-05-2004, 14:57
I'm straight. I don't support gay marriages at all. They are wrong, and homosexuality goes against everything the Bible and frankly everything I stand for.
Bottle
27-05-2004, 16:58
I'm straight. I don't support gay marriages at all. They are wrong, and homosexuality goes against everything the Bible and frankly everything I stand for.

good for you. if you haven't got reasoning to back that up then don't expect anybody to care.
Berkylvania
27-05-2004, 17:10
I'm straight. I don't support gay marriages at all. They are wrong, and homosexuality goes against everything the Bible and frankly everything I stand for.

That name.

Three posts total.

No rational reasoning in your post.

We should care what you think because?
Skalador
27-05-2004, 17:29
I'm straight. I don't support gay marriages at all. They are wrong, and homosexuality goes against everything the Bible and frankly everything I stand for.

You're entitled to that point of view. And you'll never be forced to befriend a gay person if you don't want to. But the fact of the matter is, this is not a religious matter at all. I've yet to see a proposition on gay marriage that says "Every church will be forced to celebrate and recognize these unions no matter what they might say or think on the subject of homosexuality".

Given that, I find it suprising a lot of religious people like you go out of their way to ensure gay marriage can never come to pass. You're still protected by the freedom of religion. The debate is to give civil marriage, not religious marriage. And even that is debatable: I'm Canadian, and here in Canada we have a church called the United Church of Canada who's all for gay marriage, and they already celebrate and bless these unions. They're only waiting for the government to grant the same civil rights to those gays and lesbian they marry than the hetero couples they marry get.

I guess my point is: if you don't like the idea of gay marriage, don't have one. Don't promote it to your neighbours. Don't celebrate gay marriages in your Church. All that you have the right and privilege to do. But what you don't have the right to do, is forbid others from doing so if their moral or religious views have no trouble with the notion of two men or two women loving each other and committing to spend the rest of their lives together. To take the right to choose away from others, you're effectively committing an act of repression. You're stealing other's freedom, not protecting your own.

[/soapbox]
Greyenivol Colony
27-05-2004, 21:54
Ok...

Gay Marriage to be banned forever in Australia with legislation set to be passed defining marriage as a permanent union between a man and a woman.

On the news tonight, gay rights groups came out in disgust (and wearing pink, frilly things - the flamers :evil: )

You know...like wako tree huggers, if the ultra camp gays toned themselves down just a smidge they might actually get people to listen about gay rights...

When guys wearing pink, tight pants and throwing glitter everywhere demand that they should be married one cannot blame society for telling them to shut up and get back in the closet.

Ya'd think with Australia's penal colony heritage, they'd be a bit more open-minded about "male bonding" and we all know everyone loves lebians. :P

i heard something about the australian word 'mate', it arrived in with the pirates who used is as a shortened version of mateolleur, lit. french for sailor but generally taken to mean boyfriend.
:lol:
Greyenivol Colony
27-05-2004, 21:55
way to double post...
Free Outer Eugenia
27-05-2004, 22:04
When guys wearing pink, tight pants and throwing glitter everywhere demand that they should be married one cannot blame society for telling them to shut up and get back in the closet.And Jews are allright, as long as they don't wear those scullcaps and keep their hooknoses out of our major cities, right? :roll:
Furry Wombats
27-05-2004, 22:39
I'm straight. I don't support gay marriages at all. They are wrong, and homosexuality goes against everything the Bible and frankly everything I stand for.

I don't have a problem with you being straight - you are what you are...just the same as someone who is homosexual is what they are

Nor with you not supporting gay marriages - that is your choice

Nor with it going against everything you stand for

The BIG PROBLEM i have is with your stating it is WRONG.
That is your view it isn't the absolute truth.
Why not own it and say you BELIEVE it to be wrong?

People are ok with you having opinions and they don't try and make you conform to being gay or anything so why try and force your opinions on others?

And if i hear any more about the Bible i will loose my rag :tantrum:

IT IS SOMETHING WRITTEN BY PEOPLE A LONG TIME AGO!!!
WHY DOES THAT MAKE IT RIGHT???

And hey...it says that you shouldn't commit the sin of Onan and spill your seed on the ground...i don't hear too much about you guys leaping up and down saying people shouldn't do that sort of thing because it says you shouldn't in the bible.

Right. Glad i've got that off my chest. It's people shoving their ideas down other people's throats which causes a lot of psychological problems in the world and why i'm training to be a counsellor - to undo some of the crappy things people do to each other - and some of them in the name of god!!!
27-05-2004, 22:46
Ok...

Gay Marriage to be banned forever in Australia with legislation set to be passed defining marriage as a permanent union between a man and a woman.

On the news tonight, gay rights groups came out in disgust (and wearing pink, frilly things - the flamers :evil: )

You know...like wako tree huggers, if the ultra camp gays toned themselves down just a smidge they might actually get people to listen about gay rights...

When guys wearing pink, tight pants and throwing glitter everywhere demand that they should be married one cannot blame society for telling them to shut up and get back in the closet.

Ya'd think with Australia's penal colony heritage, they'd be a bit more open-minded about "male bonding" and we all know everyone loves lebians. :P

i heard something about the australian word 'mate', it arrived in with the pirates who used is as a shortened version of mateolleur, lit. french for sailor but generally taken to mean boyfriend.
:lol:

Yes the word "mate" comes from the pirate era - British sailors. Do not forget that the Royal Navy was founded on piracy (Drake - under Elizabeth Regina)
BeJaminSAT
27-05-2004, 23:49
I'm straight. I don't support gay marriages at all. They are wrong, and homosexuality goes against everything the Bible and frankly everything I stand for.

:roll: Unfortunately, I live in the great state of Texas in the USA, recently known for striking down, finally, Anti-sodomy laws from our constitution. I kinda read that ole JC used to hang out with Tax Collectors, Prostitutes, and other people without judging them. Hmmm, wonder how "the Bible" became so hateful and judgemental. BTW I am Gay and have been with my male partner for, on August 6, 2004, for 25 years. Unfortunately, much longer than most of my , er, breeder (str8) friends..... 8) hmmm...
Free Outer Eugenia
27-05-2004, 23:55
Blessed are the meek,
For they shall inherit the earth.

Blessed are the merciful,
For they shall obtain mercy.

Blessed are the peacemakers,
For they shall be called sons of God.


Those faggots though... :roll:
GNU-Linux
28-05-2004, 00:06
A friend of mine came out as gay couple of days ago. Didn't bother me in the slightest.

When guys wearing pink, tight pants and throwing glitter everywhere demand that they should be married one cannot blame society for telling them to shut up and get back in the closet.And Jews are allright, as long as they don't wear those scullcaps and keep their hooknoses out of our major cities, right? :roll:

That's religious clothing. Pink glittery stuff is just bad taste.
Galliam
28-05-2004, 00:08
Whats wrong with stating your opinions as fact? If you truly believe them shouldn't you be trying to convince everyone else? I'm not saying that everyone should believe it but hey, nothing wrong with telling somebody they're wrong.
Graustarke
28-05-2004, 00:13
I am not gay, I really don't care if you are. That is none of my business.

I am against sanctioning same sex marriage.

Reasons are that as a 'married couple' certain advantages are gained. Spousal health care coverage, insurance benefits, tax benefits, etc. These items were set up to provide more disposable income to married couples to assist in raising a family not make things more convenient.

I believe that especially in the area of health care, costs will increase greatly since spousal coverage's are at a much lower rate.

In another aspect, what is to prevent same sex room mates who do not share shower time from getting 'married' simply to get some benefits once reserved for married hetero couples.

Personal opinion once again is that although as stated in my first sentence, I really don't care if anyone is 'gay', I will not look upon it as a normal condition, acceptable lifestyle, nor will I support any action that caters to aberrant behaviors.

'course I may be wrong.... it has happened a time or two...
Rangerville
28-05-2004, 00:31
Many gay couple do raise families though, either through adoption, surrogates, etc. If they could prove they were going to do that, would you think they deserve the benefits? Or do you also disagree with them having children?
imported_United Morgan
28-05-2004, 00:37
And i reckon men should be able to marry men and women marry women if that's what they want.

Why shouldn't they have their love and committment formally acknowledged by society the same as heterosexual couples can?

They can in Canada. I guess we're just a bit more Liberal than some governments... :lol:
28-05-2004, 08:13
what is to prevent same sex room mates who do not share shower time from getting 'married' simply to get some benefits once reserved for married hetero couples.

Ummm...why would any straight guy want to pretend to be gay...?

To be teased, harassed, shunned by society and treated like a second class citizen is not worth a few bucks.
28-05-2004, 08:15
A friend of mine came out as gay couple of days ago. Didn't bother me in the slightest.

I hope no friend of mine ever tells me they are gay. As tolerant as I am...I would be speechless. Sadly people might take that the wrong way...especially since I never shut up :wink:
New Fuglies
28-05-2004, 08:39
A friend of mine came out as gay couple of days ago. Didn't bother me in the slightest.

I hope no friend of mine ever tells me they are gay. As tolerant as I am...I would be speechless. Sadly people might take that the wrong way...especially since I never shut up :wink:

Hey, I am gay. I really am! Now I realize we aren't friends though even I am becoming tired of this thread and its predecessors. Will you please find something else to drone about coz you appear a bit foolish reviving this topic over and over again, especially considering you are straight and evidently not prepared to deal with homosexuality maturely other than irritating the entire NS forum.
28-05-2004, 08:44
A friend of mine came out as gay couple of days ago. Didn't bother me in the slightest.

I hope no friend of mine ever tells me they are gay. As tolerant as I am...I would be speechless. Sadly people might take that the wrong way...especially since I never shut up :wink:

Hey, I am gay. I really am! Now I realize we aren't friends though even I am becoming tired of this thread and its predecessors. Will you please find something else to drone about coz you appear a bit foolish reviving this topic over and over again, especially considering you are straight and evidently not prepared to deal with homosexuality maturely other than irritating the entire NS forum.

You clearly havn't read anyone's posts properly - least of all mine.

Like Smeagol, I ask that you stop posting here.
Doujin
28-05-2004, 08:47
Ok, my question what is the point of these threads? I mean, really.. yes, gay - fine.. who cares? Quit parading it around, please.
New Fuglies
28-05-2004, 08:49
A friend of mine came out as gay couple of days ago. Didn't bother me in the slightest.

I hope no friend of mine ever tells me they are gay. As tolerant as I am...I would be speechless. Sadly people might take that the wrong way...especially since I never shut up :wink:

Hey, I am gay. I really am! Now I realize we aren't friends though even I am becoming tired of this thread and its predecessors. Will you please find something else to drone about coz you appear a bit foolish reviving this topic over and over again, especially considering you are straight and evidently not prepared to deal with homosexuality maturely other than irritating the entire NS forum.

You clearly havn't read anyone's posts properly - least of all mine.

Like Smeagol, I ask that you stop posting here.

Having flipped through this thread, finding no point to most of it whatsoever, my eyes glazed over though in that moment I could finally see what this is. Trolling by proxy.

Ttfn.
imported_Ierocis
28-05-2004, 08:52
I'm proud to be straight! I don't suffer any mental illness that causes me to act in perversion against morality.
28-05-2004, 08:55
Trolling by proxy.

Well please stop then.
Doujin
28-05-2004, 08:56
Perversion in your mind, act of normalcy to another. Homosexuality is throughout the world, not only in humans but in animals as well. It is not unnatural.

Now, will someone answer my question as to what the purpose of this thread is? Wow, your gay - so what? Quit parading it (I say again).
Free Outer Eugenia
28-05-2004, 09:02
Gay Pride is a movement of liberation and a reclaiming of identity. Who are YOU to tell me not to parade it around? We do not hide from confrontation, we welcome it. Bring the hate out into the light of day where it will wither and die!
28-05-2004, 09:03
Perversion in your mind, act of normalcy to another. Homosexuality is throughout the world, not only in humans but in animals as well. It is not unnatural.

Now, will someone answer my question as to what the purpose of this thread is? Wow, your gay - so what? Quit parading it (I say again).

:roll: Had either of you two read the last thread it wasn't about parading anything. This thread is a discussion page about gay issues.

Instead you seek to ruin it. Don't post here again.
Doujin
28-05-2004, 09:03
Gay Pride is a movement of liberation and 'reclaiming of identity', sure. However, there is no need to force it on everyone like people do.
28-05-2004, 09:04
Gay Pride is a movement of liberation and 'reclaiming of identity', sure. However, there is no need to force it on everyone like people do.

Nobody is forcing anything on anyone here. This is a discussion thread. If you don't like the content then leave...

In fact I am telling you to leave.

Have a nice day.
Steffish
28-05-2004, 09:06
Ok...

Gay Marriage to be banned forever in Australia with legislation set to be passed defining marriage as a permanent union between a man and a woman.



meaning they can't get divorced, or what? (okay, so this wasn't really the relevant part but... it makes little sense to me)

Damn Aussies.
Free Outer Eugenia
28-05-2004, 09:07
Gay Pride is a movement of liberation and 'reclaiming of identity', sure. However, there is no need to force it on everyone like people do.How is anything 'forced' on you?
Doujin
28-05-2004, 09:08
Unless your name has Forum Moderator or Game Moderator on it, you have no authority over me.


Gay Pride is a movement of liberation and a reclaiming of identity. Who are YOU to tell me not to parade it around? We do not hide from confrontation, we welcome it. Bring the hate out into the light of day where it will wither and die!



Who am I? I am a gay male who is tired of seeing gay men parading themselves around on people. For instance, I was in the store the other day and a guy walked up to me and said, literally, "Hi, my name is Mark. I'm gay." Flicked his wrist, and proceeded to try and get a conversation with me.

You do not need to act foolishly in public to be proud of who you are.


:roll: Had either of you two read the last thread it wasn't about parading anything. This thread is a discussion page about gay issues.

Instead you seek to ruin it. Don't post here again.


I did not post in the previous thread for two reasons. One being that the topic was "I AM PROUD TO BE GAY". The other being that I already made a rather long, drawn out post regarding homosexuality.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=133193&highlight=
BackwoodsSquatches
28-05-2004, 09:10
Im so tired of people spewing thier bile about "morality", all the while pretending they have some, or even know what the hell it is.

These are the same people who cry "Aids is gods punishment on gays", meaning that a fatal disease is a good and just thing...

This is morality?

These people are so full of thier own stink that they can no longer tell whats moral and whats the height of hipocrasy.

Wishing a fatal disease and bombing abortion clinics does not make you moral.

It makes you evil.

dont argue....your wrong.

The simple plain thruth is that you cant stop anyone from being attracted to anyone else....so just shut the hell up and live your own life as best you can, stop worrying about others and take care of your own shortcomings.
Doujin
28-05-2004, 09:12
No need to be aggressive aobut it, BackwoodsSquatches. Anyone who is ignorant enough to argue that "AIDS is God's punishment on Gays", is just that.. ignorant. AIDS currently affects more heterosexual men and women throughout the world than it does homosexual men and women.
BackwoodsSquatches
28-05-2004, 09:32
No need to be aggressive aobut it, BackwoodsSquatches. Anyone who is ignorant enough to argue that "AIDS is God's punishment on Gays", is just that.. ignorant. AIDS currently affects more heterosexual men and women throughout the world than it does homosexual men and women.

Im tired.

...and cranky.
Doujin
28-05-2004, 09:37
S'ok, BS. We all get that way from time to time.
28-05-2004, 09:58
Who am I? I am a gay male who is tired of seeing gay men parading themselves around on people. For instance, I was in the store the other day and a guy walked up to me and said, literally, "Hi, my name is Mark. I'm gay." Flicked his wrist, and proceeded to try and get a conversation with me.

I've never had that happen to me...is that a good thing?
Doujin
28-05-2004, 10:03
That would be up to you. However, Gay Pride Parade type behaviour is not really welcome, and actually worsens our cause than help it. People know we are here, they know we are gay - 2+2=4 and they can live with that. However, many people do not want people doin that gay pride parade type behaviour all the time (which it does happen).

I'm going to stop before I ramble on, it's 4 AM and I should be in bed.
28-05-2004, 10:06
That would be up to you. However, Gay Pride Parade type behaviour is not really welcome, and actually worsens our cause than help it. People know we are here, they know we are gay - 2+2=4 and they can live with that. However, many people do not want people doin that gay pride parade type behaviour all the time (which it does happen).

I agree 100%. It doesn't help the gay cause at all. Still at least you know someone does like you :lol:
Bottle
28-05-2004, 14:20
In another aspect, what is to prevent same sex room mates who do not share shower time from getting 'married' simply to get some benefits once reserved for married hetero couples.


and right now, what is to stop two non-involved heterosexuals from getting married for no reason other than financial gain, or to get one of them a green card? what is to stop a man and a woman who have never met before from marrying on a game show just to gain ratings for the network and earn a big cash buyout? what's to stop a popstar from marrying on a whim and then divorcing within hours?

sorry punkin, but like all homophobes you have no leg to stand on. just admit you think gay is icky and them faggots ain't got the right to be doin that stuff.
Bottle
28-05-2004, 14:22
I'm proud to be straight! I don't suffer any mental illness that causes me to act in perversion against morality.

i'm proud to be bisexual, and to know how to read so that i can grasp the basic fact that no accredited medical or psychological association still maintains that homosexuality is a perversion or a disorder!

learn to read, homophobes! people might laugh at you less if you do!
Smeagol-Gollum
28-05-2004, 15:23
A friend of mine came out as gay couple of days ago. Didn't bother me in the slightest.

I hope no friend of mine ever tells me they are gay. As tolerant as I am...I would be speechless. Sadly people might take that the wrong way...especially since I never shut up :wink:

Hey, I am gay. I really am! Now I realize we aren't friends though even I am becoming tired of this thread and its predecessors. Will you please find something else to drone about coz you appear a bit foolish reviving this topic over and over again, especially considering you are straight and evidently not prepared to deal with homosexuality maturely other than irritating the entire NS forum.

You clearly havn't read anyone's posts properly - least of all mine.

Like Smeagol, I ask that you stop posting here.

Having flipped through this thread, finding no point to most of it whatsoever, my eyes glazed over though in that moment I could finally see what this is. Trolling by proxy.

Ttfn.

The stated purpose of the general forum is for discussion and debate.

Yet anyone posting anything which offends the sensibilities of Lord Pheonix Benicius is accused of "spamming" and requested not to post. What a joke.
28-05-2004, 23:56
A friend of mine came out as gay couple of days ago. Didn't bother me in the slightest.

I hope no friend of mine ever tells me they are gay. As tolerant as I am...I would be speechless. Sadly people might take that the wrong way...especially since I never shut up :wink:

Hey, I am gay. I really am! Now I realize we aren't friends though even I am becoming tired of this thread and its predecessors. Will you please find something else to drone about coz you appear a bit foolish reviving this topic over and over again, especially considering you are straight and evidently not prepared to deal with homosexuality maturely other than irritating the entire NS forum.

You clearly havn't read anyone's posts properly - least of all mine.

Like Smeagol, I ask that you stop posting here.

Having flipped through this thread, finding no point to most of it whatsoever, my eyes glazed over though in that moment I could finally see what this is. Trolling by proxy.

Ttfn.

The stated purpose of the general forum is for discussion and debate.

Yet anyone posting anything which offends the sensibilities of Lord Pheonix Benicius is accused of "spamming" and requested not to post. What a joke.

Smeagol...

You seem to like me for you are always posting in my threads. You follow me around like a lost puppy.

It's becoming a habit of yours.

I don't want a fan club...see a doctor.
29-05-2004, 00:04
Ok...I changed the title of this thread to reflect the intended content.
Andeli
29-05-2004, 00:12
I wonder why it should matter so much what people wear?

My clothes don't define me...i'm the same me whether i'm wearing my dark blue smart suit and toned-down jewellry or glitzy top and wild wild earrings...

...and, i don't know how to say this but i'm a woman who...dresses like a man. Yes, i have to admit it...i wear trousers :oops:

Sure is a crazy world :D

It matters becuase that's a stupid way to dress. People should just dress normal and not like retards.
Alexzandrian Military
29-05-2004, 00:41
I've got no objection to gay marraige whatsoever. I'm perfectly fine with it as long as it doesn't affect me personally, which it doesn't so I don't care. Let them marry! Jeez! It's not like it affects you Mr. Uppity Religious Right. (GOD, HOW I HATE THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT!!! :evil:)

BTW, I am straight.

A.M.
Bottle
29-05-2004, 01:27
I wonder why it should matter so much what people wear?

My clothes don't define me...i'm the same me whether i'm wearing my dark blue smart suit and toned-down jewellry or glitzy top and wild wild earrings...

...and, i don't know how to say this but i'm a woman who...dresses like a man. Yes, i have to admit it...i wear trousers :oops:

Sure is a crazy world :D

It matters becuase that's a stupid way to dress. People should just dress normal and not like retards.'

okay, good plan. since i appoint myself Commandante of Normal, i will now dictate to you what "normal" attire consists of, and you will dress accordingly:

male "normal" attire will be a toga, pure white, at all times. no other garments are acceptable, and any person wearing other clothing is a retard.

female "normal" attire will be mechanic's jumpsuits, with patches advertising the wearers political, social, religious, sexual, or comedic orientations. plain jumpsuits are unacceptable, and any other attire will earn the wearer the title of retard.

and since i am just as entitled to define "normal" as anybody else, consider youself a retard, Andeli, since i am willing to bet money you don't meet either of my specifications.
Doujin
29-05-2004, 01:27
Jesus Christ if they don't want us to have sex why don't they just let us marry? :)
29-05-2004, 01:48
Jesus Christ if they don't want us to have sex why don't they just let us marry? :)

Well, just let gays do whatever. To me there are more important issues than gay marriage.

I think its adorable when two guys kiss. It is showing their love for one another in the same way men and women do...

Now I have never ever seen two guys kiss in public. I have seen gays together, but they never kiss and never hold hands - least not around here. I think it is because they believe people will disapprove...

Or maybe they are actually living proof that not all humans are exhibitionists.
Doujin
29-05-2004, 06:14
That was a joke, Benicius.
Smeagol-Gollum
29-05-2004, 08:20
A friend of mine came out as gay couple of days ago. Didn't bother me in the slightest.

I hope no friend of mine ever tells me they are gay. As tolerant as I am...I would be speechless. Sadly people might take that the wrong way...especially since I never shut up :wink:

Hey, I am gay. I really am! Now I realize we aren't friends though even I am becoming tired of this thread and its predecessors. Will you please find something else to drone about coz you appear a bit foolish reviving this topic over and over again, especially considering you are straight and evidently not prepared to deal with homosexuality maturely other than irritating the entire NS forum.

You clearly havn't read anyone's posts properly - least of all mine.

Like Smeagol, I ask that you stop posting here.

Having flipped through this thread, finding no point to most of it whatsoever, my eyes glazed over though in that moment I could finally see what this is. Trolling by proxy.

Ttfn.

The stated purpose of the general forum is for discussion and debate.

Yet anyone posting anything which offends the sensibilities of Lord Pheonix Benicius is accused of "spamming" and requested not to post. What a joke.

Smeagol...

You seem to like me for you are always posting in my threads. You follow me around like a lost puppy.

It's becoming a habit of yours.

I don't want a fan club...see a doctor.

Yet another attempt to avoid debate on any issue.

I do post in "your" threads for one simple reason - we are both Australian, and yet hold differing political views. You are a monarchist, I am a republican. You favour Liberals, I Labour. You have peculiar fantasies of "Australian" empire, I think they are ludicrous suggestions. You support Bush, I oppose him.

Whenever I attempt to confront you over these matters, you accuse me of "spamming" your thread, and ask me not to post.

Now, you are reverting to the personal attack. I will not engage in such a farce.

"Follow you around"... don't flatter yourself.

If you persist in personal attacks, I shall refer the matter to Moderation.

Try, instead, at debating the issues you raise.

The experience may prove educational.
Soviet Haaregrad
29-05-2004, 09:26
I'm straight. I don't support gay marriages at all. They are wrong, and homosexuality goes against everything the Bible and frankly everything I stand for.

I guess someone forgot to tell you there's more important things in life then whether you like something.
29-05-2004, 09:28
...You support Bush, I oppose him...

...I shall refer the matter to Moderation...

...The experience may prove educational...

From now on I shall ignore everything you write.
Smeagol-Gollum
29-05-2004, 09:50
...You support Bush, I oppose him...

...I shall refer the matter to Moderation...

...The experience may prove educational...

From now on I shall ignore everything you write.

The purpose of the General Forum is stated as being "for discussion and debate".

If you are not interested in discussion and debate, you are posting to the wrong forum, if not the wrong website.