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Even as a liberal I have to admit that Bush's speech was pretty good. I'd have to say that it made up for his press conference fiasco

Words, words, words. I am very liberal, but also a realist. I had many friends killed in Vietnam. It is electiontime- his numbers are at an alltime low. Actions are what really tell.

what person would ever waste their time watching this semi literate moron of a toolbag try to speak the lines spoonfed to him?

what person would ever waste their time watching this semi literate moron of a toolbag try to speak the lines spoonfed to him?

I'd like to see you write better speeches then the president writes. and yes he writes them himself.

and it's not his fault that people are getting killed in iraq. people are inlisting on their own behalf knowing very well that they might die.

what person would ever waste their time watching this semi literate moron of a toolbag try to speak the lines spoonfed to him?

I'd like to see you write better speeches then the president writes. and yes he writes them himself.

and it's not his fault that people are getting killed in iraq. people are inlisting on their own behalf knowing very well that they might die.

what person would ever waste their time watching this semi literate moron of a toolbag try to speak the lines spoonfed to him?

I'd like to see you write better speeches then the president writes. and yes he writes them himself.

and it's not his fault that people are getting killed in iraq. people are inlisting on their own behalf knowing very well that they might die.

what person would ever waste their time watching this semi literate moron of a toolbag try to speak the lines spoonfed to him?

I'd like to see you write better speeches then the president writes. and yes he writes them himself.

and it's not his fault that people are getting killed in iraq. people are inlisting on their own behalf knowing very well that they might die.

Ummm.... no he doesn't.

what person would ever waste their time watching this semi literate moron of a toolbag try to speak the lines spoonfed to him?

I'd like to see you write better speeches then the president writes. and yes he writes them himself.

and it's not his fault that people are getting killed in iraq. people are inlisting on their own behalf knowing very well that they might die.your trying to tell me that a president who cant even read or speak writes his own speeches himself? yeah right, pass the acid :lol:

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I'd like to see you write better speeches then the president writes. and yes he writes them himself.

and it's not his fault that people are getting killed in iraq. people are inlisting on their own behalf knowing very well that they might die.

Regarding point 1:

Here are articles on some of his speechwriters - all found in one page of searching on yahoo:

Michael Gerson :
http://www.caller2.com/2001/july/22/today/national/5944.html

Daniel McGroarty:
http://www.cnn.com/COMMUNITY/transcripts/2001/02/27/mcgroarty/

David Frum (the one who coined the phrase 'axis of evil'):
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/832183/posts

Not saying that GW doesn't review them first and perhaps make some changes to suit his speaking style. But he does NOT write them all from scratch.

And lest we forget, it was Condi's deputy who edited a speech just before the State of the Union address to remove the reference to uranium from Niger.

You think he edits the boss's own words?


Regarding point 2:

Yeah... it's the soldiers fault they are dying. Damn them for starting this war in the first place....

:roll:

-Z-

Much ado about nothing. What he said will placate his supporters and irritate anyone else it its lack of content/glossing over real issues. I love how we're going to tear down the Abu Ghraib prison...yes, friends, to condemn our own attrocities, we're going to tear down the building in which they occured. Woohoo.

Aside from that, only thing worth hearing was aobut how we're going to turn over sovreignity to an Iraqi government, yet we're going to keep all troops and "regional offices" there, to make sure things get done "on time" (or some such vague expression). That's an interesting new definition of sovreignity.

And who wants to bet that if things go right, it's because we are there for support; but if things go wrong, it's because the country has a young and inexperience government?

your trying to tell me that a president who cant even read or speak writes his own speeches himself? yeah right, pass the acid :lol:You're the one who can't put up a coherent argument! If I could see reasoning in you rants I would counter them, but you're spewing mindless bias that reaches the hysteria level.

I'd like to see you write better speeches then the president writes. and yes he writes them himself.

and it's not his fault that people are getting killed in iraq. people are inlisting on their own behalf knowing very well that they might die.

Regarding point 1:

Here are articles on some of his speechwriters - all found in one page of searching on yahoo:

Michael Gerson :
http://www.caller2.com/2001/july/22/today/national/5944.html

Daniel McGroarty:
http://www.cnn.com/COMMUNITY/transcripts/2001/02/27/mcgroarty/

David Frum (the one who coined the phrase 'axis of evil'):
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/832183/posts

Not saying that GW doesn't review them first and perhaps make some changes to suit his speaking style. But he does NOT write them all from scratch.

And lest we forget, it was Condi's deputy who edited a speech just before the State of the Union address to remove the reference to uranium from Niger.

You think he edits the boss's own words?


Regarding point 2:

Yeah... it's the soldiers fault they are dying. Damn them for starting this war in the first place....

:roll:

-Z-

I don't know of any modern presidents who wrote their own speeches. Maybe Carter, but he was a disaster.

what person would ever waste their time watching this semi literate moron of a toolbag try to speak the lines spoonfed to him?

I'd like to see you write better speeches then the president writes. and yes he writes them himself.

and it's not his fault that people are getting killed in iraq. people are inlisting on their own behalf knowing very well that they might die.your trying to tell me that a president who cant even read or speak writes his own speeches himself? yeah right, pass the acid :lol:
Funny...even on his worst night, Bush is a lot more fluent than RedArrow...errrrr, MKULTRA is. Guess that's what comes from having an MBA from Harvard.

But hey, Bush can always use the Kerry "excuse" and blame his speechwriters!

what person would ever waste their time watching this semi literate moron of a toolbag try to speak the lines spoonfed to him?

I'd like to see you write better speeches then the president writes. and yes he writes them himself.

and it's not his fault that people are getting killed in iraq. people are inlisting on their own behalf knowing very well that they might die.your trying to tell me that a president who cant even read or speak writes his own speeches himself? yeah right, pass the acid :lol:
Funny...even on his worst night, Bush is a lot more fluent than RedArrow...errrrr, MKULTRA is. Guess that's what comes from having an MBA from Harvard.

But hey, Bush can always use the Kerry "excuse" and blame his speechwriters!

Gee... and I thought GW went to Yale....

ohhh...his speech was so boring! laughable at times though. he didnt say anything new! He focuses too much on the word "evil". that just makes him sound silly.

Yes, GW did go to Yale.
After he recieved his bachelor's degree from Yale, he went to Harvard and got his MBA. Check before you write.

Yes, GW did go to Yale.
After he recieved his bachelor's degree from Yale, he went to Harvard and got his MBA. Check before you write.funny how he went to these exclusive colleges on a politically connected rich kid quota but he still never learned to read or reason in them--how fitting that he was cheerleader since hes such a male bimbo

ohhh...his speech was so boring! laughable at times though. he didnt say anything new! He focuses too much on the word "evil". that just makes him sound silly.

Yup, just what I was thinking as I watched. After about the second "point," I realized that, were this any other speaker, I would probably be asleep by that time.

what person would ever waste their time watching this semi literate moron of a toolbag try to speak the lines spoonfed to him?

Ever spoke for over half an hour in front of over 10-30 million people in America and God-knows-how many people in the world?

Doubt it

what person would ever waste their time watching this semi literate moron of a toolbag try to speak the lines spoonfed to him?

Ever spoke for over half an hour in front of over 10-30 million people in America and God-knows-how many people in the world?

Doubt it

Funny, I don't think we elected MKULTRA to do that. I think we'd expect better from those we had. Bush couldn't even pronounce the name "Abu Ghraib." Sad.

what person would ever waste their time watching this semi literate moron of a toolbag try to speak the lines spoonfed to him?

Ever spoke for over half an hour in front of over 10-30 million people in America and God-knows-how many people in the world?

Doubt it

Funny, I don't think we elected MKULTRA to do that. I think we'd expect better from those we had.

....FOR THE GOD-KNOWS-WHATth TIME!

And who says we elected him? Hmm? HMMMM? I thought you knew we never elected him!

what person would ever waste their time watching this semi literate moron of a toolbag try to speak the lines spoonfed to him?

Ever spoke for over half an hour in front of over 10-30 million people in America and God-knows-how many people in the world?

Doubt it

Funny, I don't think we elected MKULTRA to do that. I think we'd expect better from those we had.

....FOR THE GOD-KNOWS-WHATth TIME!

And who says we elected him? Hmm? HMMMM? I thought you knew we never elected him!

:roll: A generalization is the best you can manage at this point? That's also pretty sad, Colodia. Why don't you, oh, I don't know, try to stick to the subject at hand?

what person would ever waste their time watching this semi literate moron of a toolbag try to speak the lines spoonfed to him?

Ever spoke for over half an hour in front of over 10-30 million people in America and God-knows-how many people in the world?

Doubt it

Funny, I don't think we elected MKULTRA to do that. I think we'd expect better from those we had.

....FOR THE GOD-KNOWS-WHATth TIME!

And who says we elected him? Hmm? HMMMM? I thought you knew we never elected him!

:roll: A generalization is the best you can manage at this point? That's also pretty sad, Colodia. Why don't you, oh, I don't know, try to stick to the subject at hand?

You ask, I point

He commented, I responded

You ask, I point

He commented, I responded

Lemme guess, all us "Lib-ruls" are the same, right? Are the rest of the threads against Bush really wearing you down to this? I know I've seen decent, intelligent points come from you...

You ask, I point

He commented, I responded

Lemme guess, all us "Lib-ruls" are the same, right? Are the rest of the threads against Bush really wearing you down to this? I know I've seen decent, intelligent points come from you...

I'm just annoyed as hell being deprived of good music from the radio.

And yes...the pure mixture of intelligence/stupidity in these forums is reaching an all-time high. It takes it's toll.

But, I'm pretty sure I was responding to TRA, right?

You ask, I point

He commented, I responded

Lemme guess, all us "Lib-ruls" are the same, right? Are the rest of the threads against Bush really wearing you down to this? I know I've seen decent, intelligent points come from you...

I'm just annoyed as hell being deprived of good music from the radio.

And yes...the pure mixture of intelligence/stupidity in these forums is reaching an all-time high. It takes it's toll.

But, I'm pretty sure I was responding to TRA, right?

I figured that was a product of frustration. Don't start sliding down that hill - you've shown you can do much better. I just wanted to point it out, and I can certainly identify with the lack of quality on the radio.

I'm not going to pretend that I know who MKULTRA is, though. Deal with him as you see fit, I suppose. Sometimes ignoring a person can be just a strong a statement as addressing them.

Damn this server...

EDIT: He does sound like TRA, now that you mention it.

Funny how Yale accepted the chimp and Texas wouldn't. Ah, the life of privilege...how wonderful.

I'd like to see you write better speeches then the president writes. and yes he writes them himself.

and it's not his fault that people are getting killed in iraq. people are inlisting on their own behalf knowing very well that they might die.

Regarding point 1:

Here are articles on some of his speechwriters - all found in one page of searching on yahoo:

Michael Gerson :
http://www.caller2.com/2001/july/22/today/national/5944.html

Daniel McGroarty:
http://www.cnn.com/COMMUNITY/transcripts/2001/02/27/mcgroarty/

David Frum (the one who coined the phrase 'axis of evil'):
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/832183/posts

Not saying that GW doesn't review them first and perhaps make some changes to suit his speaking style. But he does NOT write them all from scratch.

And lest we forget, it was Condi's deputy who edited a speech just before the State of the Union address to remove the reference to uranium from Niger.

You think he edits the boss's own words?


Regarding point 2:

Yeah... it's the soldiers fault they are dying. Damn them for starting this war in the first place....

:roll:

-Z-

I don't know of any modern presidents who wrote their own speeches. Maybe Carter, but he was a disaster.

I would call anyone who won a Nobel Peace Prize a disaster.

what person would ever waste their time watching this semi literate moron of a toolbag try to speak the lines spoonfed to him?

Ever spoke for over half an hour in front of over 10-30 million people in America and God-knows-how many people in the world?

Doubt it

Funny, I don't think we elected MKULTRA to do that. I think we'd expect better from those we had. Bush couldn't even pronounce the name "Abu Ghraib." Sad.
Furthermore, there has been 42 other guys who didn't have NEARLY the same degree of problems with that task as our current one.

Even as a liberal I have to admit that Bush's speech was pretty good. I'd have to say that it made up for his press conference fiasco
It's no different than any other speech he makes. Just maybe more in detail.

The only reason Bush's speeches are good is because someone writes them for him and then someone else tells him how to say the words in it properly.

I tried to watch some of his speech, but when I tuned in he was going through what seemed to be a vague, bad newscast, listing (and spinning) what was happening right now in Iraq. I tend to be pretty well informed and I don't need Dubya to interpret the raw info for me. It iritated me and I decided I'd just read the hightlights tomorrow and changed the channel.

I’m suggesting that they send UN Observers to the next Election, given how that last one went down. From what I’ve seen it’s the War on Democracy in the US of A that you guys should really be worried about. You guys so lost the right to criticize other nations about electoral corruption after your last Federal Election. Time for a little more naval gazing and a little less Naval action to distract the masses.

I guess we misunderestimated him. :wink: