NationStates Jolt Archive


Gas Prices..

Ma Rung
24-05-2004, 04:03
This was originally posted by Rogmatt at Perfect Union BBS..I say do your part to spread the word!


Why didn't George W. think of this? Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled about it. It might even be good for us!


The Saudis are boycotting American goods. We should return the favor. An interesting thought it to boycott their GAS. Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis.


Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up the tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my family, and my friends. I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies are the best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle Eastern oil (for the period 9/1/00 - 8/31/01):


Shell.........................205,742,000 barrels

Chevron/Texaco.........144,332,000 barrels

Exxon /Mobil..............130,082,000 barrels

Marathon/Speedway...117,740,000 barrels

Amoco......................62,231,000 barrels


If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION!


Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:


Citgo..................... 0 barrels

Sunoco................. 0 barrels

Conoco................. 0 barrels

Sinclair................. 0 barrels

BP/Phillips........... 0 barrels

Hess..................... 0 barrels


All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and each is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are importing.


But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of gas buyers. Get this info to as many people as possible via internet and e-mail.
IIRRAAQQII
24-05-2004, 04:08
We should really look to other sources of energy.
24-05-2004, 04:09
What have I told you? The best way to make money nowadays is to invest in barrels of oil.
Tactical Grace
24-05-2004, 04:14
Just buy from gas companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis.
Uh, the US imports more than 60% of its oil. Most of it comes from places other than Saudi Arabia, but why pick on Saudi Arabia and leave out Iran? Or indeed all the other members of OPEC.

I have seen a few of these letters, in which people naively assume that they can switch all their demand from one company to another, or from one country to another. The system simply is not that elastic. You pay where you can get it. Choice in oil, as far as the US is concerned, is an illusion.
Cannot think of a name
24-05-2004, 04:25
This is starting to happen (http://www.wqad.com/Global/story.asp?S=1844506&nav=1sW7MsxA) so its not all bad.
Pantylvania
24-05-2004, 04:38
Texaco and Shell are the same company. BP and Amoco are the same company. Kind of messes up the statistics
Tactical Grace
24-05-2004, 05:00
Amerada Hess is on that list. It imports no oil from the ME Gulf.

That is because it is a Gulf of Mexico operator. If you were to stop buying oil from Saudi Aramco and ask Amerada Hess to supply it, you would be laughed out of the head office and out of the back door into a pile of garbage bags.

The world of energy has little choice meaningful to the consumer.
Rouge Jiggady
24-05-2004, 05:05
Well now just wait until they start opening up more oil to export. The market will be flooded with cheap gas, consumption will get out of hand promoting even more waste and our problem will just be compounded.

Keep on raising those prices baby, if we are going to destroy the environment with our endless waste than we might as well pay out of our asses to do it.
Tactical Grace
24-05-2004, 05:13
They can't actually pump more out of the ground. The promised "production increase" is simply OPEC opening the valves on their storage facilities. Just like the US SPR, they can drain them in two months, putting an extra 1.5Mb/d on production, but it is only sustainable as a seasonal stop-gap. Once that surge capacity is eroded by growing world demand, the world will have to get used to out-bidding each other. High prices aplenty. That's what happens when your resource is maxed out and the world insists on further growth.