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As an extension of a previous post, I urge my fellow Americans on this forum to get out and vote against George. W. Bush in November. America cannot afford another four years with this idiot in charge. He's managed to turn back all the Clinton-era fiscal policies and bring us to the brink of bankruptcy. He's systematically chipped away at the rights of the individual in the name of fighting terrorism. He's completely humiliated us with his behavior abroad! While he's not busy trying to write the Bible into our law codes he's instead actively trying smother all information about what he IS doing. He doesn't want the public to know until after it has been done. The man is a loose cannon, and if we are to salvage anything of our credibility, we need to jettison him and put a Democrat back in the White House.

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ok. :D

I certainly will.

F*** Bush up the pooper. :D

If only we could have another Clinton.

Sure.

As an extension of a previous post, I urge my fellow Americans on this forum to get out and vote against George. W. Bush in November. America cannot afford another four years with this idiot in charge. He's managed to turn back all the Clinton-era fiscal policies and bring us to the brink of bankruptcy. He's systematically chipped away at the rights of the individual in the name of fighting terrorism. He's completely humiliated us with his behavior abroad! While he's not busy trying to write the Bible into our law codes he's instead actively trying smother all information about what he IS doing. He doesn't want the public to know until after it has been done. The man is a loose cannon, and if we are to salvage anything of our credibility, we need to jettison him and put a Democrat back in the White House.

-Shalrirorchia tag-

Don't forget that he lost you the support of the rest of the world, including the United Nations, with his unilateral and reckless decisions. The US has become widely know as the world's bully nation since that guy's been in charge.

F*** Bush up the pooper. :D

If only we could have another Clinton.


I agree. You rock Japaica we have the same political views.

Bush sucks, Clinton rocked. And I'm pissed because Bush cheated his way into the presidency and I had donated $100K to the Gore campaigh.

Vote Not Bush '04

If I could, I would.

F*** Bush up the pooper. :D

If only we could have another Clinton.


I agree. You rock Japaica we have the same political views.

Bush sucks, Clinton rocked. And I'm pissed because Bush cheated his way into the presidency and I had donated $100K to the Gore campaigh.

100K, Damn. But Bush really had bought his way into the presidency. This year he's raised more than any candidate in history by finding loop holes in the laws that prevent elections to be about cash

Uhhhh, I think I'll vote Bush. I don't exactly agree with everything he's done, but it would be worse with a democrat. Kerry's gonna ban guns if he gets voted in.

What an ass.


Well I donated like $5K to Kerry's actions for the Democratic National Convention.

And I haven't decided how much to donate to him for the real campaign. A lot probably.

Don't forget that he lost you the support of the rest of the world, including the United Nations, with his unilateral and reckless decisions. The US has become widely know as the world's bully nation since that guy's been in charge.
You're badly mistaken if you don't think the US was known as the world's bully / world police before Bush came to power. Besides a period post-9/11 of shallow support.

you americans need to get rid of bush as fast as you can before he fucks up your country even more

I am not voting for Bush either. But I don't think Kerry is a strong enough opponet.

Bush has the thinking power of a dead monkey.

Don't forget that he lost you the support of the rest of the world, including the United Nations, with his unilateral and reckless decisions. The US has become widely know as the world's bully nation since that guy's been in charge.
You're badly mistaken if you don't think the US was known as the world's bully / world police before Bush came to power. Besides a period post-9/11 of shallow support.
I can assure you: here in Belgium, the US was respected a lot more when Clinton was still in charge.

i would, but im british, so Ill probably protest against him from across the pond :wink:

Clinton was an idiot he got 18 good men killed in Somalia on Oct. 3, 1993 does nobody remember that escapade of stupidity? Clinton was the one who caused the terror attacks on the US on 9/11 because he never did anything about Al Queda. He knew they were a threat and he ignored him we don't need another Clinton we need another FDR or Eisenhower.

I am not voting for Bush either. But I don't think Kerry is a strong enough opponet.

I agree. I don't really like Kerry, but i'm going with the old saying of "BEAT BUSH". If only we had another clinton. :(

Uhhhh, I think I'll vote Bush. I don't exactly agree with everything he's done, but it would be worse with a democrat. Kerry's gonna ban guns if he gets voted in.he supports banning certain types of guns without putting any noticeable dent in the general right to bear arms. Heck, he even hunts for sport.

What an ass.


Well I donated like $5K to Kerry's actions for the Democratic National Convention.

And I haven't decided how much to donate to him for the real campaign. A lot probably.$2000 is the maximum right now

Clinton was an idiot he got 18 good men killed in Somalia on Oct. 3, 1993 does nobody remember that escapade of stupidity? Clinton was the one who caused the terror attacks on the US on 9/11 because he never did anything about Al Queda. He knew they were a threat and he ignored him we don't need another Clinton we need another FDR or Eisenhower.

F*** you. :evil:

Uhhhh, I think I'll vote Bush. I don't exactly agree with everything he's done, but it would be worse with a democrat. Kerry's gonna ban guns if he gets voted in.he supports banning certain types of guns without putting any noticeable dent in the general right to bear arms. Heck, he even hunts for sport.

What an ass.


Well I donated like $5K to Kerry's actions for the Democratic National Convention.

And I haven't decided how much to donate to him for the real campaign. A lot probably.$2000 is the maximum right now

Yeah, 2K may be the maximum. But Bush has found loopholes and created an unstoppably money making network. F*** Bush. Trying to by his presidency. :evil:

For thought:

Clinton didn't do anything *that* extrodinary. All he did was bring us back from the devestating spending habits of the 'Regan-omic' decade. All he did was do what any democrat would do with a republican dynasty that ruled before him -- seperate himself from their mess to win election next time around.

Bush, as much as we don't like him, will never ban gay marriage with an amendment to the Constitution. Before he can do that, he has to first amend the 1st Amendment about freedom of speech and religion, altering both to allow his neo-Baptist views to stain the American Constitution. How many people will vote for him then? Its all for getting votes -- say something radical, and then ignore it after he becomes a lame duck.

We will say, though, that Bush is a bit of a loose cannon. We do find it ironic, also, that the son of the man who put Saddam into power under good-will and peace was the one to take him out of said power.

Clinton was an idiot he got 18 good men killed in Somalia on Oct. 3, 1993 does nobody remember that escapade of stupidity? Clinton was the one who caused the terror attacks on the US on 9/11 because he never did anything about Al Queda. He knew they were a threat and he ignored him we don't need another Clinton we need another FDR or Eisenhower.

you have to remember Northern Ireland though, when clinton was in office, it was peaceful, and Clinton was even thought to be the hero of the irish since it was so peaceful.

But when Bush went into office, all hell let loose in Norhern Ireland

18 killed man are nothing compared to the 500+ K.I.A.'s in Iraq, 5000 killed Iraqian cityzens, 3000 killed Iraqi soldiers. Plus, it wasn't clintoon who ingnored the CIA when it came to 9-11

If you don't believe me read some of the reports in Mog. Clinton had people in there who shouldn't be he had the most idiotic General ever running the operation and he got people killed if you can't face the facts go cry somewhere else. Another Teddy Roosevelt is what we need.

Clinton was an idiot he got 18 good men killed in Somalia on Oct. 3, 1993 does nobody remember that escapade of stupidity? Clinton was the one who caused the terror attacks on the US on 9/11 because he never did anything about Al Queda. He knew they were a threat and he ignored him we don't need another Clinton we need another FDR or Eisenhower.

Okay Clinton got 18 men killed. Now how many did Bush get killed? That's gonna be a lot more I guarantee you.

And Clinton had better things to do than shiver in fear over Al Qaeda when the world would consider it unjust to do something before something was done.

The attacks on 9/11 where being planned during the Clinton Administration. My God I guess you should not try to stop an attack on the American people if it could happen after your term is up. :roll:

I'm completely abhor Bush, but Clinton blew too. No pun intended. I don't see where this fanbase is coming from.

Do you know all that Bush has done? He improved Medicare, captured Saddam, and weaned many people off the Government, along with many oter things. The whole purpose of Liberalism is flawed. They give people who don't work money. Because these people don't work, they don't help the Economy, so it is as good as throwing money away. I know what you are thinking, "They can't get a job!" Well, GO TO COLLEGE!!! That is why people with common sence would vote Conservatve. Bush/Cheney '04!

Maybe they were planned under Clinton, but I'll bet Bush's govt. itself had a lot more chance of stopping the attacks had they done anything about them.

Anyway guys, you do have another Clinton! Hilary! If I were American, I'd vote for her in 2008 (or whenever the Democrats decide to put her forward). And if you for some reason hate Hilary, then go read "Downsize This!". And stop it ;)

Maybe they were planned under Clinton, but I'll bet Bush's govt. itself had a lot more chance of stopping the attacks had they done anything about them.

Anyway guys, you do have another Clinton! Hilary! If I were American, I'd vote for her in 2008 (or whenever the Democrats decide to put her forward). And if you for some reason hate Hilary, then go read "Downsize This!". And stop it ;)

It's not like Bush wanted the 9/11 attacks to happen.

America is just screwed the lack of Nationalism guarentees this country will crumble just like the Romans.

American is just screwed the lack of Nationalism guarentees this country will crumble just like the Romans.

The only reason America was doing bad was because Clinton was wasting money on people who don't work.

Jesus Christ, all this swooning over Bill is making me sick :D . I don't know about the rest of you, but for the large part I like the direction our country is heading under Bush. He sure as hell ain't perfect, but Kerry's a shit bag. I like my guns too much to vote for Kerry 8) .

I think the biggest problem is Americans just don't care about America anymore its disgusting. They don't care about the mutilation of American corpses in Iraq or the gassing of the Kurds but if we pose some Iraqi prisoners naked lets get pissed. I'm glad this generation wasn't around and fighting during WWII because we would have given up halfway through and we would all be speaking German and be in Hitler Youth.

Do you know all that Bush has done? He improved Medicare, captured Saddam, and weaned many people off the Government, along with many oter things. The whole purpose of Liberalism is flawed. They give people who don't work money. Because these people don't work, they don't help the Economy, so it is as good as throwing money away. I know what you are thinking, "They can't get a job!" Well, GO TO COLLEGE!!! That is why people with common sence would vote Conservatve. Bush/Cheney '04!

Actually, Welfare is to help people who are working and still don't have enough money, OR people who are disabled and can't work. Yes some people take advantage of that system, but it's not as many as you'd think. Besides, saying we should cancel welfare because some morons take advantage of it is like saying we should scrap the police service because people waste their time with false alarms.

Way to generalize. By the way, college isn't the only way to get a good job. And by good: i mean fulfilling. You strongly imply that a well paying job means success. A fulfilling job is success. High pay is a bonus if you can get it. Now, as for those other comments. I'm not too immature to admit Bush did those things, however:

He lied about the WMD's in Iraq, or at least horribly mismanaged information and didn't care to double check because he wanted a war so horribly. Why though? There's so much money there!

Why is the Bush family so much more hell bent, sorry, "heaven bent," on Iraq's oil than the other presidents? Because the Bush administration and their associated henchmen have more to gain than any other presidents:
- Both George Bush Junior and Dick Cheney both worked in the oil
business, and still have strong ties therein
- 41 Senior White House officials were former oil executives and
have significant stock holdings or other financial ties
- National Security Advisor Condaleeza Rice is a former director of
Chevron, and even has an oil tanker named after her.

Until he stepped down to become George Bush Junior's running mate, Cheney served as chief executive of Halliburton, a large corporation that makes billions of dollars from Middle East refining and "reconstruction." Dick Cheney still earns over $1 million dollars a year from the company and has significant stock holdings. His severance package alone was $30 million. Cheney has been using his power to provoke war and negotiate deals in order to raise his stock prices.

In 2001, Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown, and Root scored a ten year long Pentagon deal called the "Logistics Civil Augmentation Program" for "cost-plus-award-fee, indefinite delivery and quantity." The company has since made over $830 million dollars in the deal. They also have the Pentagon contract for controlling Iraqi oil fields, in what may add up to as much as $1.5 billion in contracts. Can we trust a man who will see immense profit in a war to tell us the truth or even push us in the right direction?

Maybe that was a question to ask before we didn't elect them in the 2000 elections, but now that they have the office anyways, it's a little too late.

Don't believe me about the WMD lies? Here's testimony from Scott Ritter, a former UN weapons inspector on Iraq's ability to produce such weapons:

RITTER: When I left Iraq in 1998, when the UN inspection program ended, the infrastructure and facilities had been 100% eliminated. Theres no debate about that. All of their instruments and facilities, had been destroyed. The weapons design facility had been destroyed. The production eqyupment had been hunted down and destroyed. And we had in place, means to monitor - both from vehicles and from the air - the gamma rays that accompany attempts to enrich uranium or plutonium. We never found any rich uranium of plutonium. We never found anything. We can say unequivocally that the industrial infrastructure needed by iraq to produce nuclear weapons had been eliminated.
Even this. however, is not simple, because iraq still had thousands of scientists who'd been dedicated to this nuclear weaponization effort. The scientists were organised in a very specific manner, with different sub-elements focused on different technologies of interest, even though the physical infrastructure had been eliminated, the iraqi's chose to retain the organisational structure of the scientists. This means iraq has thousands of nuclear scientists - along with their knowledge and expertise - still organised in the same manner as when iraq had a nuclear weapons program and its accompanying infrastructure, those scientists are today involved in legitimate tasks, these jobs arent illegal per se, but they do allow these scientists to continue working in fields similar to those in which they'd work were they in fact carrying out a nuclear weapons program.
There is concern, then, that the iraqi's might intend in the long run to re-establish or reconstitute a nuclear weapons program. But this concern must be tempered by reality. Thats not something that could happen overnight, nor is it something that could happen as long as weapons inspectors were inside iraq. For iraq to reacquire nuclear weapons capability, they'd have to basically build, from the ground up, enrichment and weaponization capabilities that would cost tens of billions of dollars, Nuclear weapons cannot be created in a basement or cave, they require modern industrial infrastructures that in turn require massive amounts of electricity and highly controlled technologies not readily available on the open market.

PITT : Like neautron reflectors, tampers?

RITTER: Iraq could design and build these itself, Im talking more about flash cameras and the centrifuges needed to enrich uranium. There are also specfic chemicals required, none of this can be done on the cheap, its very expensive, and readily detectable.
The vice president has been saying that iraq might be two years away from building a nuclear bomb. Unless he knows something we don’t, that’s nonsense. And it doesn’t appear he does, because whenever you press the vice president or other bush administration officials on these claims, they fall back on testimony by Richard Butler, my former boss, an Australian diplomat, and Khidr Hamza, an iraqi defector who claims to be saddams bomb-maker. And of course thats not good enough ,especially when we have the united nations record of Iraqi disarmament from 1991 to 1998, that record is without dispute, its documented, we eliminated the nuclear program and for iraq to have reconstituted it would require undertaking activities eminently detectable by intelligence sevices.

PITT : What about chemical weapons?

RITTER :Iraq manufactured three kinds of nerve agents, sarin, tabun and VX, some people who want war with iraq describe 20 000 munitions filled with sarin and tabun nerve agents that could be used against americans. The facts, however don’t support this, sarin and tabun have a shelf life of 5 years, even if Iraq had somehow managed to hide this vast number from weapons inspectors, what they're now storing is nothing more than useless, harmless goo.
Chemical weapons were produced in the Muthanna state establishment, a massive chemical weapons factory, it was bombed during the Gulf war, and then weapons inspectors came and completed the task of eliminating the facility, that means iraq lost its sarin and tabun manufacturing base.
We destroyed thousnads of tons of chemical agent, its not as though we said "oh we destroyed a factory, now we're going to wait for everything else to expire" We had an incineration plant operating fulltime for years, burning tons of the stuff everyday, we went out and blew up in place bombs, missles and warheads filled with his agent, we emptied scud missle warheads filled with this agent, we hunted down this stuff and destroyed it.


Bush is also a plain fool. He talks about fighting terrorism? The war in Iraq is detrimental to the "war on terrorism," because Saddam Hussein was a strong anti-islamist, secular ruler within an area surrounded by fundamentalism, who basically kept the Al-Qaeda style of terrorists out of his country in ways that America will not be able to do, and the American occupation of Iraq has actually brought more terrorists IN to the country than were there before. In addition, the huge world-wide anti-American reaction to the war would further encourage the formation of new terrorist cells and strengthen those already existing. Terrorism cant be fought with bombs and bullets, much like racism. It needs to be stopped with education and understanding, but that doesnt win votes does it?

What most people don't understand is that you cannot force democracy or revolution, which is why Iraq is so volatile. As painstaking as it is to see the nation suffer under a Dictator, the only way true freedom can be attained is through a citizens revolution. It is a sad truth that it would cost many lives, but many less than the repercussions of what the US is doing. And when you do try to force Democracy, results are catastrophic.

Look at Iraq. When...or if...the US leaves, the Sunni's and Shi'ite's will have no dictatorship in place to keep them tame, and no occupying force for them to unite against. That means the two groups are likely going to have a bloody street war with a good possibility of attempted or even fully accomplishable Genocide. Don't forget the Kurds in the north either. And what about Democracy? Have these people any idea how to do it? Remember, under Saddam they were sealed off from the world and injected with Soviet-era level propaganda. What they know is likely distorted. Also, pertaining to an election: Because many people are very religious, it is likely when an Iraqi election does happen, the candidate from the largest religious group will be elected, meaning more religious violence and hatred.

You see, the US intervention and forcing of Democracy on a people unprepared for it is only throwing things into chaos, and what we're seeing now isn't even the worst of what's to come. Not even close. Things would’ve still been bad under Saddam, but there would have been a people’s revolution which is the ONLY WAY democracy can come about properly. Now, Bush has pretty much guaranteed a constant state of chaos in Iraq for years.

He also talks about how great America is for "liberating" Iraq, when the govt. only seems to "liberate" a country when it is in their best interests. In the Gulf War, they "saved" Kuwait when all those precious oil fields were threatened. And now, they only invaded because of 9/11, they knew they would get public backing to go after their oil. But the man is a flaming hypocrite! In 1997 when he was Governer of Texas, he and a texas oil company wanted to build pipelines across the middle east, and through Afghanistan. They invited a bunch of Taliban to the states to talk business. Not two years ago, he was condemning these Taliban, calling them evil, and saying how they needed to be stopped. But in 1997, when it was in HIS best interests, he put them up in a 5 star hotel, and showed them a great, EXPENSIVE time.

But yes, George W Bush the humanitarian liberator of nations oppressed.
But george, if you're REALLY out to help the world here's some countries that could use you.

Chile - Living under an oppressive CIA run government. They killed a democratically elected president in the 70's to install their puppet, and these dictators kill political opponents on a whim. Cant attack them, might mess up the agenda.

Saudi Arabia - The Most oppressive government in the world. Anti-woman, super religious theocracy. Ever heard stories about their prisons and "police" force? Wait, cant attack them! They're an ally! The US makes billions off of them. Oh well. So its hypocritical to go destroy another country that tortures its people (Iraq) while selling and buying from one that does the same? Yep.

Colombia - In the grips of a bloody civil war that claims hundreds daily and has for years. Cant attack them, might mess up that lovely glorifying Cocaine killing plan they have. You see, the US flies planes over cocaine fields and destroys the coke crops with chemicals. Makes their war on drugs look successful. Too bad they also destroy farmers fruits and vegetables. But it makes em look great.

Ah yes, how benevolent. But wait! America knew all about the Kurd gassing in '88, but didnt do anything until 91 when the Kuwaiti oil fields were threatened. And now that they finally could, they "liberated" Iraq just to get that precious oil. There are countries in more dire need, but they are ignored. Why? Because America's government isnt so great, they just "help" these nations when its of greatest profit.

And here's the kicker: In the context of the Iraqi War, Bush is a terrorist. What is the definition of terrorism you ask?

Terrorism - As defined by the FBI, "the unlawful use of force against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population or any segment thereof, in the furtherance of political or social objectives". This definition includes three elements: (1) Terrorist activities are illegal and involve the use of force. (2) The actions are intended to intimidate or coerce. (3) The actions are committed in support of political or social objectives. (FEMA-SS)

1) Bush went against the UN laws and attacked Iraq without having any proof. The war was thus Illegal and obviously used excessive force. The US and UK led coalition also used high powered cluster bombs over civilian areas. The UK is already on trial for this at the World Court. That is also defined as excessive force.

2) Bush's actions were used to get Saddam out of power by coercing his people against him.

3)Political objectives, well Bush's government had begun planning the invasion of Iraq , 3 days after 9/11 , sounds like that had a political reason to me.

Yeah, great guy. And no i'm not a Kerry lover, so don't start generalizing me with your neo-conservative "YOUR A COMMIE" bullcrap. I hate Kerry, i hate Nader. Bush, i just hate more. If it were up to me none of them would win, i think the political system is crap if men like this even get on the ballot. So don't brand me as a Kerry supporter. I'm just saying, Bush is a complete moron, a terrorist, and a murderer. Funny enough, he actually FITS the real definition of terrorism.

Jesus Christ, all this swooning over Bill is making me sick :D . I don't know about the rest of you, but for the large part I like the direction our country is heading under Bush. He sure as hell ain't perfect, but Kerry's a shit bag. I like my guns too much to vote for Kerry 8) .

Someone with common sence! Kerry is dishonest, idiotic, and hates the Military. Here is what will happen if he is elected:

Kerry will pull our forces out of Iraq and weaken our military. The Terrorists will then have time to create Nuclear Weapons. Within two years, all the major cities will be nuked.

Do any of you want to have New York blown up?

America should just be Communist so we can all call each other Comrade and be equal. Maybe even clone Stalin or Lenin and make them the leader of America. :lol:

Jesus Christ, all this swooning over Bill is making me sick :D . I don't know about the rest of you, but for the large part I like the direction our country is heading under Bush. He sure as hell ain't perfect, but Kerry's a shit bag. I like my guns too much to vote for Kerry 8) .

Someone with common sence! Kerry is dishonest, idiotic, and hates the Military. Here is what will happen if he is elected:

Kerry will pull our forces out of Iraq and weaken our military. The Terrorists will then have time to create Nuclear Weapons. Within two years, all the major cities will be nuked.

Do any of you want to have New York blown up?

Wow...no proof to back it up either. Common sense. Well, if you really are worried about nuclear threats, maybe you should write your turdburger president and tell him to turn his attention to North Korea, a nation which is DEVELOPING nuclear arms, and has openly THREATENED to, and i quote: "Turn America into a sea of fire." You wanna worry about terrorists? There's one who is actually a threat. Besides, have you ever thought that war like the one in Iraq just ENCOURAGES hatred that fuels terrorism? Terrorism isn't something that can be killed.

You're badly mistaken if you don't think the US was known as the world's bully / world police before Bush came to power. Besides a period post-9/11 of shallow support.

You're equally badly mistaken if you don't think this has changed for the worse since Bush came into office. MUCH worse.

Didn't you hear the group of US diplomats the other week, who complained about how much harder representing the States had become since Bush went haywire? Haven't you noticed how ugly, personal photos of war for the first time ever has reached media? Have you ever heard so many foreigners having such strong opinions about the outcome of your next election?
This is not circumstancial. Bush is not just any president.

And yall must understand that this has nothing to do with anti-americanism. GW Bush is NOT your country.


Being the greatest country in the world comes with a certain amount of responsibility.

Wow...no proof to back it up either. Common sense. Well, if you really are worried about nuclear threats, maybe you should write your turdburger president and tell him to turn his attention to North Korea, a nation which is DEVELOPING nuclear arms, and has openly THREATENED to, and i quote: "Turn America into a sea of fire." You wanna worry about terrorists? There's one who is actually a threat. Besides, have you ever thought that war like the one in Iraq just ENCOURAGES hatred that fuels terrorism? Terrorism isn't something that can be killed.

Are you Insane invading North Korea would get our ass kicked. The US Military if you haven't noticed is stretched so thin trying to fight in Korea would be joke we would easily be pushed back the Pusin perimeter again (All History Buffs would know what this sounds like.) It would take a week to get forces mobilized and in the theater of operations by then we would have a N. Korean Iron Blitzkrieg of tanks rolling through Seoul. Its just not plausible we need to settle the Korea situation with diplomacy not force.

I cant see how anyone in their right mind would prefer to have someone like Bush in power rather than one like Clinton!

During the years that Clinton was President, America was building peace across the world. Israil and Palistine were in talks for peace among many others. The moment that Bush steps in, those ties that America had with the middle east were abolished due to his arrogance.

The reason Clinton wasn't worried about Al Qieda was because they were not as much a threat to America at the time. Once Bush came in and started pushing around countries in the middle east, Al Qieda then chose to strike America as punishment. This wasn't because of Americans as a whole, September 11th was the doing of Bush!

The war against terror is the way Bush is making people get angry with the middle eastern countries instead of him for making those innocent people die in New York. If America had an oppressive government, i'm sure you wouldn't want another country coming in and taking over you. A country that thinks the loss of several thousand American civilians is worth the fall of your government. If one of those civilians was one of your loved ones.

I must admit that Al Qieda do need to be brought to justice for what they did. But war is not the way to go about it. America needs a new President. It needs to begin building ties with countries throughout the Middle East and Asia once again. Once that is done, finding Al Qieda will be made so much easier and with way less blood shed.

Also, Billions of dollars will be kept for the government to use in America, for Americans. Life in America will thus be vastly improved and the world will be a far safer place to live, without the fear of more strikes.

You're badly mistaken if you don't think the US was known as the world's bully / world police before Bush came to power. Besides a period post-9/11 of shallow support.

You're equally badly mistaken if you don't think this has changed for the worse since Bush came into office. MUCH worse.

Didn't you hear the group of US diplomats the other week, who complained about how much harder representing the States had become since Bush went haywire? Haven't you noticed how ugly, personal photos of war for the first time ever has reached media? Have you ever heard so many foreigners having such strong opinions about the outcome of your next election?


No, I don't know if you were around in the 80's, but if you remember, the same exact thing happened, but with other countries. In one, Libya was making terrorist attacks all around the world and France refused to let us fly over their territory to bomb Libya. Another incident was when the US was planning on stationing more missiles in Western Europe, all the young people had a huge fit over how Europe should "Withdraw" from the Cold War, how Mondale should beat Reagan (and Dukakis beat Bush Sr.), and a many things extremely simliar to todays situation.

Wow.
Whatever you people smoke, get me some.

During the years that Clinton was President, America was building peace across the world. Israil and Palistine were in talks for peace among many others. The moment that Bush steps in, those ties that America had with the middle east were abolished due to his arrogance.
What ties? Its not like Bush came in and said "Ok, Israel and Palestine start killing each other". When Arafat rejected peace and started in the Intifada again, thats when the killing started again.

The reason Clinton wasn't worried about Al Qieda was because they were not as much a threat to America at the time. Once Bush came in and started pushing around countries in the middle east, Al Qieda then chose to strike America as punishment. This wasn't because of Americans as a whole, September 11th was the doing of Bush!
No, wrong again. Al Qaeda was fighting America all during the Clinton term. The 1st World Trade Center bombings, USS Cole, and the African Embassy bombings are all examples.

If America had an oppressive government, i'm sure you wouldn't want another country coming in and taking over you.
Sure I would! Why wouldn't I want freedom?

Are you Insane invading North Korea would get our ass kicked. The US Military if you haven't noticed is stretched so thin trying to fight in Korea would be joke we would easily be pushed back the Pusin perimeter again (All History Buffs would know what this sounds like.) It would take a week to get forces mobilized and in the theater of operations by then we would have a N. Korean Iron Blitzkrieg of tanks rolling through Seoul. Its just not plausible we need to settle the Korea situation with diplomacy not force.
South Korea alone could take over North Korea. The problem with invading North Korea is that some of the world's most densely populated areas (Seoul, Tokyo, Osaka, ect.) would be totally destroyed by nukes. We're looking at tallies in the tens of millions.

Uhhhh, I think I'll vote Bush. I don't exactly agree with everything he's done, but it would be worse with a democrat. Kerry's gonna ban guns if he gets voted in.

This is the best you can come up with? Kerry's gonna "ban guns" if he gets voted in? You think this is the biggest issue facing the US today? Good grief, dude, get some perspective. Kerry can't "ban guns" because it's a constitutional amendment. Period. He would have to rewrite the Constitution to do so and, if they can't get enough votes to put an anti-gay marriage amendment in, there's no way in hell they'd ever get enough momentum to rewrite the freaking Second Amendment. As for putting limit on gun ownership, why do you need an automatic weapon? Why are background checks on potential gun buyers a problem? Do you have to go out and shot someone today? Won't they still be there after the waiting period?

God, this is the exact kind of limited perspective that is ruining this country.

Clinton was an idiot he got 18 good men killed in Somalia on Oct. 3, 1993 does nobody remember that escapade of stupidity? Clinton was the one who caused the terror attacks on the US on 9/11 because he never did anything about Al Queda. He knew they were a threat and he ignored him we don't need another Clinton we need another FDR or Eisenhower.

whatever, what we don't need is a bush.
He is racist, sexist, homophobic, and uncooperative.

Id like to apologize on behalf of th US for our poor behaviour. Believe me, I voted with the majority.

Even Bush's father wasn't as much as a Nazi as he.

Well I donated like $5K to Kerry's actions for the Democratic National Convention.

Not to be too picky.. but the max that can be donated is $2K.. so how did you donate $5K? It's against the law..

Even Bush's father wasn't as much as a Nazi as he.
Do you know what Nazis are or are you just throwing around words like Nazis and Fascist like everyone else? Based on the use of the word, it seems like you don't. Just like how you called Bush racist, sexist, and homophobic, its unfounded. :roll:

Bush has the thinking power of a dead monkey.
Agreed, don't let the ape back in!

Do you know all that Bush has done? He improved Medicare, captured Saddam, and weaned many people off the Government, along with many oter things. The whole purpose of Liberalism is flawed. They give people who don't work money. Because these people don't work, they don't help the Economy, so it is as good as throwing money away. I know what you are thinking, "They can't get a job!" Well, GO TO COLLEGE!!! That is why people with common sence would vote Conservatve. Bush/Cheney '04!

You are ignorant.

If America had an oppressive government, i'm sure you wouldn't want another country coming in and taking over you.
Sure I would! Why wouldn't I want freedom?

That that somehow Iraq has been given freedom.

Can't we all just agree that Bush is an asshole pseudo-fascist (and he is, I know what that means), Kerry is a lukewarm, milquetoast, douchebag and Clinton was dishonest (I'm refering to NAFTA/WTO, not BJs)? Why must people always vote for the very least interesting person they find?! I mean, Jesus, the man has no defined position on ANYTHING! "I'm FOR education! FOR the environment! AGAINST poverty, crime and terrorism!" Yeah that says a whole hell of alot. BAH! Idiots, idiots! "Oh no! Not Dean! He's scary! He yells! Boo-hoo-hoo!" Grow up you f---ing pansies!

Surely Kerry is going to win by a mile!

Bush is such an idiot why would anyone vote for him?

I think Bush is a lot better than Kerry. I am only 15, but I hate Democrats. Clinton was a horrible president, and Kerry (horseman), will be even worse. Clinton did more things wrong than Bush could do in 10 terms. You can't blame Bush for everything that has happened. USA has always been looked upon as a nosey nation who interferes with everything and messes it up worse than ever. Bush couldn't of possibly prevented 9-11, and you can't say Kerry could've either. Nobody could've. How can you say Kerry will do so much better? He will raise taxes dramatically, ban guns, cause the biggest deificet ever, interefere more, and he wont be able to just withdraw troops either. Kerry won't be able to handle the war in Iraq any better than Bush. Besides, we found weapons of mass destruction a couple days ago. Iraq must have forgotten to destroy them. That means we had the right to invade them, and you can't yell at Bush anymore. If you blame him for the casualties in Iraq, you are seriously mistaken. It's hard to win a war when your oppenent is using guerilla tactics in big cities. They use those hit and runs to take us out little by little. They have little hidaways, and such. The war in Iraq is becoming identical to the Vietnam War. It is hard for the soldiers to fight with the will to win when back home, the citizens are against you. Maybe instead of saying "F*** Bush," "Bush sucks," "beat the Bush", and etc.. you should support how much good he's done compared to a democrat, such as Clinton. Kerry is like Clinton, a terrible, lazy man who's only goal is to get rich, raise taxes, and talk big without the stuff to back it up. You can't believe everything you hear, and you cannot believe that he will withdraw troops immediately, save the US, and/or create a better economy. Bush is trying his hardest and doing everything within his power, and Kerry will only be able to do as much as Bush. Bush also picked up after Clinton's trails. He had to try to fix Clinton's wrongs, which isn't easy. Keep that in mind when you vote!!! VOTE BUSH!!!!!

I think Bush is a lot better than Kerry. I am only 15, but I hate Democrats. Clinton was a horrible president, and Kerry (horseman), will be even worse. Clinton did more things wrong than Bush could do in 10 terms. You can't blame Bush for everything that has happened. USA has always been looked upon as a nosey nation who interferes with everything and messes it up worse than ever. Bush couldn't of possibly prevented 9-11, and you can't say Kerry could've either. Nobody could've. How can you say Kerry will do so much better? He will raise taxes dramatically, ban guns, cause the biggest deificet ever, interefere more, and he wont be able to just withdraw troops either. Kerry won't be able to handle the war in Iraq any better than Bush. Besides, we found weapons of mass destruction a couple days ago. Iraq must have forgotten to destroy them. That means we had the right to invade them, and you can't yell at Bush anymore. If you blame him for the casualties in Iraq, you are seriously mistaken. It's hard to win a war when your oppenent is using guerilla tactics in big cities. They use those hit and runs to take us out little by little. They have little hidaways, and such. The war in Iraq is becoming identical to the Vietnam War. It is hard for the soldiers to fight with the will to win when back home, the citizens are against you. Maybe instead of saying "F*** Bush," "Bush sucks," "beat the Bush", and etc.. you should support how much good he's done compared to a democrat, such as Clinton. Kerry is like Clinton, a terrible, lazy man who's only goal is to get rich, raise taxes, and talk big without the stuff to back it up. You can't believe everything you hear, and you cannot believe that he will withdraw troops immediately, save the US, and/or create a better economy. Bush is trying his hardest and doing everything within his power, and Kerry will only be able to do as much as Bush. Bush also picked up after Clinton's trails. He had to try to fix Clinton's wrongs, which isn't easy. Keep that in mind when you vote!!! VOTE BUSH!!!!!

I think Bush is a lot better than Kerry. I am only 15, but I hate Democrats. Clinton was a horrible president, and Kerry (horseman), will be even worse. Clinton did more things wrong than Bush could do in 10 terms. You can't blame Bush for everything that has happened. USA has always been looked upon as a nosey nation who interferes with everything and messes it up worse than ever. Bush couldn't of possibly prevented 9-11, and you can't say Kerry could've either. Nobody could've. How can you say Kerry will do so much better? He will raise taxes dramatically, ban guns, cause the biggest deificet ever, interefere more, and he wont be able to just withdraw troops either. Kerry won't be able to handle the war in Iraq any better than Bush. Besides, we found weapons of mass destruction a couple days ago. Iraq must have forgotten to destroy them. That means we had the right to invade them, and you can't yell at Bush anymore. If you blame him for the casualties in Iraq, you are seriously mistaken. It's hard to win a war when your oppenent is using guerilla tactics in big cities. They use those hit and runs to take us out little by little. They have little hidaways, and such. The war in Iraq is becoming identical to the Vietnam War. It is hard for the soldiers to fight with the will to win when back home, the citizens are against you. Maybe instead of saying "F*** Bush," "Bush sucks," "beat the Bush", and etc.. you should support how much good he's done compared to a democrat, such as Clinton. Kerry is like Clinton, a terrible, lazy man who's only goal is to get rich, raise taxes, and talk big without the stuff to back it up. You can't believe everything you hear, and you cannot believe that he will withdraw troops immediately, save the US, and/or create a better economy. Bush is trying his hardest and doing everything within his power, and Kerry will only be able to do as much as Bush. Bush also picked up after Clinton's trails. He had to try to fix Clinton's wrongs, which isn't easy. Keep that in mind when you vote!!! VOTE BUSH!!!!!

As an extension of a previous post, I urge my fellow Americans on this forum to get out and vote against George. W. Bush in November. America cannot afford another four years with this idiot in charge. He's managed to turn back all the Clinton-era fiscal policies and bring us to the brink of bankruptcy. He's systematically chipped away at the rights of the individual in the name of fighting terrorism. He's completely humiliated us with his behavior abroad! While he's not busy trying to write the Bible into our law codes he's instead actively trying smother all information about what he IS doing. He doesn't want the public to know until after it has been done. The man is a loose cannon, and if we are to salvage anything of our credibility, we need to jettison him and put a Democrat back in the White House.

-Shalrirorchia tag-

I'm an independent when it comes to politics. I just don't really care when it comes to american politics. Both parties are corrupt.

Beat Bush!

I hate Bush too, but Kerry is pretty bad as well. But as a member of Anybody But Bush, I have to vote for Kerry so hopefully he'll win!!

Don't forget that he lost you the support of the rest of the world, including the United Nations, with his unilateral and reckless decisions. The US has become widely know as the world's bully nation since that guy's been in charge.
You're badly mistaken if you don't think the US was known as the world's bully / world police before Bush came to power. Besides a period post-9/11 of shallow support.
I can assure you: here in Belgium, the US was respected a lot more when Clinton was still in charge.
Probably because Clinton was Europe's bitch. Now Europe whines because Bush won't kowtow to them.

Clinton did more things wrong than Bush could do in 10 terms.

Really, well, certainly you can create a list of all of the transgressions of this awful man, as your assertion is so strong and convincing!

You can't blame Bush for everything that has happened. USA has always been looked upon as a nosey nation who interferes with everything and messes it up worse than ever.

Indeed, Bush had a fine legacy to uphold, and he's done wonderful things to expand upon it! Wait, no, that's not a good thing...are you trying to imply that since the US had a busybody reputation before, Bush is exempt from blame for making that worse?

Bush couldn't of possibly prevented 9-11, and you can't say Kerry could've either. Nobody could've. How can you say Kerry will do so much better?

I think people can make whatever speculations they'd like about 9/11, you certainly are. How do I know Kerry will do better? Because we know how Bush has done.

He will raise taxes dramatically, ban guns, cause the biggest deificet ever, interefere more, and he wont be able to just withdraw troops either.

OMG!!!1! Kerry is teh Worst politician evarrr! :lol:

Really, do you have anything to back up these wild assertions? I love how the argument goes from "Kerry flip-flops!" to, well, what we see above.

Taxes: Yeah, he probably will raise taxes somewhat, because thanks to Bush, the US needs a lot of money.
Guns: See the rest of this thread, no one's buying that claim.
Deficit: Actually, Bush is working on hitting this goal. You really haven't thought any of this out, have you?
Interfere more: Can we get some context for this? Interfere more in what? Civil rights (ahem, Patriot Act)? Regional legislation (ahem, gay marriage ammendments and medical marihuana raids)? My grandmother's cooking habits?
Troops: Of course he can't, that'd be stupid.

Kerry won't be able to handle the war in Iraq any better than Bush.

You mean the war Bush started? I think that remains to be seen.

Besides, we found weapons of mass destruction a couple days ago. Iraq must have forgotten to destroy them. That means we had the right to invade them, and you can't yell at Bush anymore.

Are some people still referencing the antiquated sarin canister as the infamous "WMD?" You do realize that doing so is absolutely ridiculous, right? Not too much more I can say about that...so yes, we can keep yelling at Bush, especially if that little canister was what he sent our troops off to die for (to actually go with such a stupid claim).

If you blame him for the casualties in Iraq, you are seriously mistaken. It's hard to win a war when your oppenent is using guerilla tactics in big cities. They use those hit and runs to take us out little by little. They have little hidaways, and such.

No, I think it's fair to blame Bush, since he should have known quite well that this is what he was getting our troops into.

The war in Iraq is becoming identical to the Vietnam War.

Well, what do you know, something which we remotely agree upon. Now, how does this support your position?

It is hard for the soldiers to fight with the will to win when back home, the citizens are against you.

Actually, no one's against the troops, just the guy who risked their lives putting them there with his little game of global Risk.

Maybe instead of saying "F*** Bush," "Bush sucks," "beat the Bush", and etc.. you should support how much good he's done compared to a democrat, such as Clinton.

Maybe not, since he fails both on his own merits and compared to Clinton.

Kerry is like Clinton, a terrible, lazy man who's only goal is to get rich, raise taxes, and talk big without the stuff to back it up.

Are you seriously so ignorant that you think that this coneptualization of anyone is even rational?! As far as your last statement, it seems that you certainly know what such talk sounds like. :wink:

You can't believe everything you hear, and you cannot believe that he will withdraw troops immediately, save the US, and/or create a better economy.

Just like some people couldn't hae believed that Bush wouldn't nationbuild or try to over-rule the laws of states. Oops!

Bush is trying his hardest and doing everything within his power, and Kerry will only be able to do as much as Bush.

Oh, he's trying his hardest! Oh dear, let me run out and buy a "Bush/Cheney '04" bumpersticker, I never realized that the poor man had so much heart, God bless him!

As for how Kerry will do, once again, that remains to be seen.

Bush also picked up after Clinton's trails. He had to try to fix Clinton's wrongs, which isn't easy.

Yeah, all those wrongs that you haven't listed. Yup, that's a persuasive argument!

Keep that in mind when you vote!!! VOTE BUSH!!!!!

I'll keep in mind that people like you constitute Bush's supporters, and see to it that my friends all get out and vote in November. Thanks for the inspiration!

Bush sucks, Clinton rocked. And I'm pissed because Bush cheated his way into the presidency and I had donated $100K to the Gore campaigh.

Um, Cuneo, that is a violation of federal law were someone to actually have done that. Let me quote something from the FEC:

"You have a biennial (two year) limit of $95,000 on your total contributions to Federal candidates and Federal political committees combined. Of the $95,000, an individual may contribute no more than $37,500 to candidates and no more than $57,500 to all PACs and parties (no more than $37,500 of the $57,500 may be given to committees that are not national party committees). "

Care to retract your statement about violating FEC election law?

I like Bush- We need a man who knows how hard it is to put food on your families, in these times when other nations are holding ours hostile. We need a man who knows what issues will resignate with the American public, whose priorities is his faith. We need a man who can help our wings take dream. We need a man who'll make a deal with Vincente Fox, president of Mexico, so that we won't have to rely on foreign oil. And a man who won't forget our most important neighbors to the North, Canada.

Make the pie higher! Make sure our imports come from overseas! Keep America the world pacemaker! Don't misunderestimate him! Bush in '04!

Vote Kucinich!!!!!

I like Bush- We need a man who knows how hard it is to put food on your families, in these times when other nations are holding ours hostile. We need a man who knows what issues will resignate with the American public, whose priorities is his faith. We need a man who can help our wings take dream. We need a man who'll make a deal with Vincente Fox, president of Mexico, so that we won't have to rely on foreign oil. And a man who won't forget our most important neighbors to the North, Canada.

Make the pie higher! Make sure our imports come from overseas! Keep America the world pacemaker! Don't misunderestimate him! Bush in '04!pass the drugs--you CANT be serious with this post

Vote Kucinich!!!!!

Amen :)

I like Bush- We need a man who knows how hard it is to put food on your families, in these times when other nations are holding ours hostile. We need a man who knows what issues will resignate with the American public, whose priorities is his faith. We need a man who can help our wings take dream. We need a man who'll make a deal with Vincente Fox, president of Mexico, so that we won't have to rely on foreign oil. And a man who won't forget our most important neighbors to the North, Canada.

Make the pie higher! Make sure our imports come from overseas! Keep America the world pacemaker! Don't misunderestimate him! Bush in '04!pass the drugs--you CANT be serious with this post

Um, no. I'm not. *hands you a sarcasm detector*

Kucinich was my early choice but let's face it, in today's day and age, you have to have both the look and the charisma to hold the highest office. Kucinich had neither of these. His message was bold and I'm sure he'll get a chance to have some say at the convention.....but.....

Kucinich was my early choice but let's face it, in today's day and age, you have to have both the look and the charisma to hold the highest office. Kucinich had neither of these. His message was bold and I'm sure he'll get a chance to have some say at the convention.....but.....

In a two-arty system, you also have to be somewhat of a centrist. :-/

Loompah Land, though I do not support your political views, I applaud your statements concerning President Bush because they are not "Kerry is a very naughty man and he will take our guns and give gays rights...". I love reading a good presidential promo once in a while instead of reading hate rant pseudo-negative campainging whatever.

Thank you for supporting your favored candidate with positive words instead of denouncing his opponents. It was very mature of you.

I like Bush- We need a man who knows how hard it is to put food on your families, in these times when other nations are holding ours hostile. We need a man who knows what issues will resignate with the American public, whose priorities is his faith. We need a man who can help our wings take dream. We need a man who'll make a deal with Vincente Fox, president of Mexico, so that we won't have to rely on foreign oil. And a man who won't forget our most important neighbors to the North, Canada.

Make the pie higher! Make sure our imports come from overseas! Keep America the world pacemaker! Don't misunderestimate him! Bush in '04!

But the real question is: Is our children learning?

I like Bush- We need a man who knows how hard it is to put food on your families, in these times when other nations are holding ours hostile. We need a man who knows what issues will resignate with the American public, whose priorities is his faith. We need a man who can help our wings take dream. We need a man who'll make a deal with Vincente Fox, president of Mexico, so that we won't have to rely on foreign oil. And a man who won't forget our most important neighbors to the North, Canada.

Make the pie higher! Make sure our imports come from overseas! Keep America the world pacemaker! Don't misunderestimate him! Bush in '04!

But the real question is: Is our children learning?

Hey, 80 percent of the schools in Texas are given a rating of exemplarary!

Loompah Land, though I do not support your political views, I applaud your statements concerning President Bush because they are not "Kerry is a very naughty man and he will take our guns and give gays rights...". I love reading a good presidential promo once in a while instead of reading hate rant pseudo-negative campainging whatever.

Thank you for supporting your favored candidate with positive words instead of denouncing his opponents. It was very mature of you.

I think you missed the point... but I agree, more of what you speak of is needed!

I like Bush- We need a man who knows how hard it is to put food on your families, in these times when other nations are holding ours hostile. We need a man who knows what issues will resignate with the American public, whose priorities is his faith. We need a man who can help our wings take dream. We need a man who'll make a deal with Vincente Fox, president of Mexico, so that we won't have to rely on foreign oil. And a man who won't forget our most important neighbors to the North, Canada.

Make the pie higher! Make sure our imports come from overseas! Keep America the world pacemaker! Don't misunderestimate him! Bush in '04!

But the real question is: Is our children learning?

Hey, 80 percent of the schools in Texas are given a rating of exemplarary!

That's because when Bush picked the Secretary of Education he wanted somebody who knew something about public education.

"Kerry is a very naughty man and he will take our guns and give gays rights...".

Bush is a very naughty man and he will take away gay rights and let everyone have guns! :lol:

As an extension of a previous post, I urge my fellow Americans on this forum to get out and vote against George. W. Bush in November.
*votes for Nader*


:? :shock: :lol:

I like Bush- We need a man who knows how hard it is to put food on your families, in these times when other nations are holding ours hostile. We need a man who knows what issues will resignate with the American public, whose priorities is his faith. We need a man who can help our wings take dream. We need a man who'll make a deal with Vincente Fox, president of Mexico, so that we won't have to rely on foreign oil. And a man who won't forget our most important neighbors to the North, Canada.

Make the pie higher! Make sure our imports come from overseas! Keep America the world pacemaker! Don't misunderestimate him! Bush in '04!

But the real question is: Is our children learning?

Hey, 80 percent of the schools in Texas are given a rating of exemplarary!

That's because when I picked the Secretary of Education I wanted somebody who knew something about public education.

Well I... uh... that is... shucks, you win. :cry: :P Wait, but what you said is not a reply to what I said! I guess that wouldn't stop Bush either.

What is the deal with terrorism?!? Drunk driving, personal firearms, and substance abuse kill tens of thousands of Americans every single year. Why doesn't Bush start a crusade against personal firearms? The pistol has one purpose and one purpose only. It is designed to kill other humans. Tens of thousands of Americans die at the hand of other Americans from personal guns every year. Why doesn't Bush spend hundreds of billions of dollars and go further into debt to stop Americans from killing Americans? Because fools like you who voted for Bush feel safer when you have an "evil enemy" who is being decimated. Ponder that.

I am sad that so many people hate America when what they should hate is Republicans. The Republican party used to be great. It had Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt. Alas, the Republicans now back away from black rights and international cooperation and give money to the rich. Note that I do not say Democrats don't either. They do, just not as much.

What is the deal with terrorism?!? Drunk driving, personal firearms, and substance abuse kill tens of thousands of Americans every single year. Why doesn't Bush start a crusade against personal firearms? The pistol has one purpose and one purpose only. It is designed to kill other humans. Tens of thousands of Americans die at the hand of other Americans from personal guns every year. Why doesn't Bush spend hundreds of billions of dollars and go further into debt to combat Americans killing Americans? Because fools like you who voted for Bush feel safer when you have an "evil enemy" who is being decimated. Ponder that.

you...have NO CLUE what your talking about do you?

*goes away laughing*

Dang it, so much I have to do. I'd love to stay and debate the n00bishness of our president, but I must away.

I like Bush- We need a man who knows how hard it is to put food on your families, in these times when other nations are holding ours hostile. We need a man who knows what issues will resignate with the American public, whose priorities is his faith. We need a man who can help our wings take dream. We need a man who'll make a deal with Vincente Fox, president of Mexico, so that we won't have to rely on foreign oil. And a man who won't forget our most important neighbors to the North, Canada.

Make the pie higher! Make sure our imports come from overseas! Keep America the world pacemaker! Don't misunderestimate him! Bush in '04!

But the real question is: Is our children learning?

Hey, 80 percent of the schools in Texas are given a rating of exemplarary!

That's because when Bush picked the Secretary of Education he wanted somebody who knew something about public education.

Well I... uh... that is... shucks, you win. :cry: :P Wait, but what you said is not a reply to what I said! I guess that wouldn't stop Bush either.

It was a reply... I was editing my post as you were replying ;)

And don't worry, because God loves you, and I love you. And you can count on both of us as a powerful message that people who wonder about their future can hear.

What is the deal with terrorism?!? Drunk driving, personal firearms, and substance abuse kill tens of thousands of Americans every single year. Why doesn't Bush start a crusade against personal firearms? The pistol has one purpose and one purpose only. It is designed to kill other humans. Tens of thousands of Americans die at the hand of other Americans from personal guns every year. Why doesn't Bush spend hundreds of billions of dollars and go further into debt to combat Americans killing Americans? Because fools like you who voted for Bush feel safer when you have an "evil enemy" who is being decimated. Ponder that.

you...have NO CLUE what your talking about do you?

*goes away laughing*

Meh, he has a bit of a point. Calling the opposition fools doesn't help at all, though, does it.

What is the deal with terrorism?!? Drunk driving, personal firearms, and substance abuse kill tens of thousands of Americans every single year. Why doesn't Bush start a crusade against personal firearms? The pistol has one purpose and one purpose only. It is designed to kill other humans. Tens of thousands of Americans die at the hand of other Americans from personal guns every year. Why doesn't Bush spend hundreds of billions of dollars and go further into debt to combat Americans killing Americans? Because fools like you who voted for Bush feel safer when you have an "evil enemy" who is being decimated. Ponder that.

you...have NO CLUE what your talking about do you?

*goes away laughing*

Meh, he has a bit of a point. Calling the opposition fools doesn't help at all, though, does it.


No, it doesn't. But quite a few of them are. But then again, I applaud the non-fool Republicans and take back my previous blanket accusation.

I like Bush- We need a man who knows how hard it is to put food on your families, in these times when other nations are holding ours hostile. We need a man who knows what issues will resignate with the American public, whose priorities is his faith. We need a man who can help our wings take dream. We need a man who'll make a deal with Vincente Fox, president of Mexico, so that we won't have to rely on foreign oil. And a man who won't forget our most important neighbors to the North, Canada.

Make the pie higher! Make sure our imports come from overseas! Keep America the world pacemaker! Don't misunderestimate him! Bush in '04!

But the real question is: Is our children learning?

Hey, 80 percent of the schools in Texas are given a rating of exemplarary!

That's because when Bush picked the Secretary of Education he wanted somebody who knew something about public education.

Well I... uh... that is... shucks, you win. :cry: :P Wait, but what you said is not a reply to what I said! I guess that wouldn't stop Bush either.

It was a reply... I was editing my post as you were replying ;)

And don't worry, because God loves you, and I love you. And you can count on both of us as a powerful message that people who wonder about their future can hear.

Oh dear, my head is about to explode! :shock:

I like Bush- We need a man who knows how hard it is to put food on your families, in these times when other nations are holding ours hostile. We need a man who knows what issues will resignate with the American public, whose priorities is his faith. We need a man who can help our wings take dream. We need a man who'll make a deal with Vincente Fox, president of Mexico, so that we won't have to rely on foreign oil. And a man who won't forget our most important neighbors to the North, Canada.

Make the pie higher! Make sure our imports come from overseas! Keep America the world pacemaker! Don't misunderestimate him! Bush in '04!

But the real question is: Is our children learning?

Hey, 80 percent of the schools in Texas are given a rating of exemplarary!

That's because when Bush picked the Secretary of Education he wanted somebody who knew something about public education.

Well I... uh... that is... shucks, you win. :cry: :P Wait, but what you said is not a reply to what I said! I guess that wouldn't stop Bush either.

It was a reply... I was editing my post as you were replying ;)

And don't worry, because God loves you, and I love you. And you can count on both of us as a powerful message that people who wonder about their future can hear.

Oh dear, my head is about to explode! :shock:

COVER!!!

Would anyone care to discuss Haliburton? I find it very juicy...

I like Bush- We need a man who knows how hard it is to put food on your families, in these times when other nations are holding ours hostile. We need a man who knows what issues will resignate with the American public, whose priorities is his faith. We need a man who can help our wings take dream. We need a man who'll make a deal with Vincente Fox, president of Mexico, so that we won't have to rely on foreign oil. And a man who won't forget our most important neighbors to the North, Canada.

Make the pie higher! Make sure our imports come from overseas! Keep America the world pacemaker! Don't misunderestimate him! Bush in '04!

But the real question is: Is our children learning?

Hey, 80 percent of the schools in Texas are given a rating of exemplarary!

That's because when Bush picked the Secretary of Education he wanted somebody who knew something about public education.

Well I... uh... that is... shucks, you win. :cry: :P Wait, but what you said is not a reply to what I said! I guess that wouldn't stop Bush either.

It was a reply... I was editing my post as you were replying ;)

And don't worry, because God loves you, and I love you. And you can count on both of us as a powerful message that people who wonder about their future can hear.

Oh dear, my head is about to explode! :shock:

COVER!!!

It's ok, I've read it a few times now, gradually releaving the pressure in my head, slowly interpreting the Bushese... Bushian? I know it's a Bushism, but what language is it?

Would anyone care to discuss Haliburton? I find it very juicy...

I find it rather oily, myself.

I am not voting for Bush either. But I don't think Kerry is a strong enough opponet.

I completely agree Bush sucks and so does Kerry for that matter. Only if Clinton was still eligable. :evil:

Would you vote for George Washington if we had a disposable (typical American tech) time machine that grabbed him back to the future?

George Washington v. George Washington Bush, who would you vote for?

The Patriot Act is an awful thing! Law enforcement doesn't just use it to track terrorists! They've used it to arrest drug traffickers and child pornographers too! All these political prisoners should be released immediately! I demand the right to sell drugs to children and then photograph them in a sexually explicit manner!

Would you vote for George Washington if we had a disposable (typical American tech) time machine that grabbed him back to the future?

George Washington v. George Washington Bush, who would you vote for?

Washington, at least he'd be more careful when declaring war. And I doubt he's corrupted.

I like Bush- We need a man who knows how hard it is to put food on your families, in these times when other nations are holding ours hostile. We need a man who knows what issues will resignate with the American public, whose priorities is his faith. We need a man who can help our wings take dream. We need a man who'll make a deal with Vincente Fox, president of Mexico, so that we won't have to rely on foreign oil. And a man who won't forget our most important neighbors to the North, Canada.

Make the pie higher! Make sure our imports come from overseas! Keep America the world pacemaker! Don't misunderestimate him! Bush in '04!

But the real question is: Is our children learning?

Hey, 80 percent of the schools in Texas are given a rating of exemplarary!

That's because when Bush picked the Secretary of Education he wanted somebody who knew something about public education.

Well I... uh... that is... shucks, you win. :cry: :P Wait, but what you said is not a reply to what I said! I guess that wouldn't stop Bush either.

It was a reply... I was editing my post as you were replying ;)

And don't worry, because God loves you, and I love you. And you can count on both of us as a powerful message that people who wonder about their future can hear.

Oh dear, my head is about to explode! :shock:

Every life matters, whether it be an American life or the life of an Afghan girl.

I am not voting for Bush either. But I don't think Kerry is a strong enough opponet.

I completely agree Bush sucks and so does Kerry for that matter. Only if Clinton was still eligable. :evil:
*taps toe, sings to the tune of "Santa Claus is coming to town"*
You better watch out,
I think she's a guy,
I'm not quite sure but somethin aint right,
Hilary Clinton's coming, to town...

I like Bush- We need a man who knows how hard it is to put food on your families, in these times when other nations are holding ours hostile. We need a man who knows what issues will resignate with the American public, whose priorities is his faith. We need a man who can help our wings take dream. We need a man who'll make a deal with Vincente Fox, president of Mexico, so that we won't have to rely on foreign oil. And a man who won't forget our most important neighbors to the North, Canada.

Make the pie higher! Make sure our imports come from overseas! Keep America the world pacemaker! Don't misunderestimate him! Bush in '04!

But the real question is: Is our children learning?

Hey, 80 percent of the schools in Texas are given a rating of exemplarary!

That's because when Bush picked the Secretary of Education he wanted somebody who knew something about public education.

Well I... uh... that is... shucks, you win. :cry: :P Wait, but what you said is not a reply to what I said! I guess that wouldn't stop Bush either.

It was a reply... I was editing my post as you were replying ;)

And don't worry, because God loves you, and I love you. And you can count on both of us as a powerful message that people who wonder about their future can hear.

Oh dear, my head is about to explode! :shock:

COVER!!!

It's ok, I've read it a few times now, gradually releaving the pressure in my head, slowly interpreting the Bushese... Bushian? I know it's a Bushism, but what language is it?

Look, I don't care about the numbers. I know the facts!!!

Uhhhh, I think I'll vote Bush. I don't exactly agree with everything he's done, but it would be worse with a democrat. Kerry's gonna ban guns if he gets voted in.he supports banning certain types of guns without putting any noticeable dent in the general right to bear arms. Heck, he even hunts for sport.

What an ass.


Well I donated like $5K to Kerry's actions for the Democratic National Convention.

And I haven't decided how much to donate to him for the real campaign. A lot probably.$2000 is the maximum right now

Yeah, 2K may be the maximum. But Bush has found loopholes and created an unstoppably money making network. F*** Bush. Trying to by his presidency. :evil:

brilliant. democrats complaining about campaign finance when they can't spell 3 letter words. congrats for bloating the economy and all, but recessions happen regardless of who's in office.

brilliant. democrats complaining about campaign finance when they can't spell 3 letter words.

Yeah, Bush really handles them big words

Yeah, he should be smarter and raise taxes. The economy will only get better if the government takes more of our money and gives more of it away to foreigners and aging baby boomers.

Surely Kerry is going to win by a mile!

Bush is such an idiot why would anyone vote for him?

wait a second... you're NAZI DEUTSCHLAND AXIS!!! knock some sense into yourself, for cryin' out loud!

Surely Kerry is going to win by a mile!

Bush is such an idiot why would anyone vote for him?

wait a second... you're NAZI DEUTSCHLAND AXIS!!! knock some sense into yourself, for cryin' out loud!

I like Bush- We need a man who knows how hard it is to put food on your families, in these times when other nations are holding ours hostile. We need a man who knows what issues will resignate with the American public, whose priorities is his faith. We need a man who can help our wings take dream. We need a man who'll make a deal with Vincente Fox, president of Mexico, so that we won't have to rely on foreign oil. And a man who won't forget our most important neighbors to the North, Canada.

Make the pie higher! Make sure our imports come from overseas! Keep America the world pacemaker! Don't misunderestimate him! Bush in '04!

frickin' brilliant.

hey, if the Dems want a prime example of a corrupted, war-mongering, domestically ignorant president, may i present to you Lyndon Baines Johnson.

He's managed to turn back all the Clinton-era fiscal policies and bring us to the brink of bankruptcy.
This is a falacy.
The president has little control over the economy. (With only direct control over 8% of the budget).
He's got about as much control over the economy as you do ove what car your neighbor buys.

Seriously, the economy hit the fan roughly 1 yr into Bush's term (before he could even fully enact any policies). And Clinton didn't create jobs. People like Gate, Steve Jobs, etc. did.

To be fair to Clinton though, none of the current problems are his fault either (again, little control).



The pistol has one purpose and one purpose only. It is designed to kill other humans.
Actually one can hunt with pistols. This gives it more than one purpose.

Clinton was an idiot he got 18 good men killed in Somalia on Oct. 3, 1993 does nobody remember that escapade of stupidity? Clinton was the one who caused the terror attacks on the US on 9/11 because he never did anything about Al Queda. He knew they were a threat and he ignored him we don't need another Clinton we need another FDR or Eisenhower.


THANK YOU!!! Don't forget the over 1,000 people he killed in Afghanistan shooting our weapons around like a moron!

Vote Against Bush in November

Sure thing.

a 46% approval rating does not look good for Bush this close to the election.

Good news for America.

a 46% approval rating does not look good for Bush this close to the election.

Good news for America.


Bad news for America, If we elect Kerry that proves that the world is right, we are morons.


Bush in '04

a 46% approval rating does not look good for Bush this close to the election.

Good news for America.


Bad news for America, If we elect Kerry that proves that the world is right, we are morons.


Bush in '04

Wich shows how very little you know.

a 46% approval rating does not look good for Bush this close to the election.

Good news for America.


Bad news for America, If we elect Kerry that proves that the world is right, we are morons.


Bush in '04

Wich shows how very little you know.


Learn to spell.

a 46% approval rating does not look good for Bush this close to the election.

Good news for America.


Bad news for America, If we elect Kerry that proves that the world is right, we are morons.


Bush in '04

This is so arrogant i simply cant do anything but laugh at it. Admit wrong is done and we can all get on with our lives!

a 46% approval rating does not look good for Bush this close to the election.

Good news for America.


Bad news for America, If we elect Kerry that proves that the world is right, we are morons.


Bush in '04

This is so arrogant i simply cant do anything but laugh at it. Admit wrong is done and we can all get on with our lives!


After all the Liberals who have posted in this thread, you call MINE arrogant? Get a brain. :roll:

a 46% approval rating does not look good for Bush this close to the election.

Good news for America.


Bad news for America, If we elect Kerry that proves that the world is right, we are morons.


Bush in '04

This is so arrogant i simply cant do anything but laugh at it. Admit wrong is done and we can all get on with our lives!


After all the Liberals who have posted in this thread, you call MINE arrogant? Get a brain. :roll:

So you view this as America vs The world then?

a 46% approval rating does not look good for Bush this close to the election.

Good news for America.


Bad news for America, If we elect Kerry that proves that the world is right, we are morons.


Bush in '04

This is so arrogant i simply cant do anything but laugh at it. Admit wrong is done and we can all get on with our lives!


After all the Liberals who have posted in this thread, you call MINE arrogant? Get a brain. :roll:

So you view this as America vs The world then?


Hell No.

a 46% approval rating does not look good for Bush this close to the election.

Good news for America.


Bad news for America, If we elect Kerry that proves that the world is right, we are morons.


Bush in '04

Wich shows how very little you know.


Learn to spell.

Learn to spell?

What did I spell incorrectly?

methinks it is thee who cannot spell.

*whispers* Which :)

a 46% approval rating does not look good for Bush this close to the election.

Good news for America.


Bad news for America, If we elect Kerry that proves that the world is right, we are morons.


Bush in '04

Wich shows how very little you know.




Learn to spell.

Learn to spell?

What did I spell incorrectly?

methinks it is thee who cannot spell.

Stop poking the Troll BlackwoodSquatches! ;)