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Anyone vote for them?

Nope.

early and often :wink:

I kinda want to vote for them... but not sure I should. I agree with a lot of their policies, but they seem like a mickey mouse organisation... ie not professional.

I kinda want to vote for them... but not sure I should. I agree with a lot of their policies, but they seem like a mickey mouse organisation... ie not professional.

They are a bunch of brain dead thugs and Nazi sympathisers. How they can claim to represent Britishness when most of the population would gladly have them horse-hipped is quite beyond me.
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they're as professional as british nationalists are likely to get. they have distanced themselves from the nf and c18, but any far right party in the uk is going to have some taint. you want pros with no neo nazi history you'll just end up with the tories

They are a bunch of brain dead thugs and Nazi sympathisers. How they can claim to represent Britishness when most of the population would gladly have them horse-hipped is quite beyond me.
:roll:

You should seriously go to their website and read their manifesto, policies, beliefs etc before you make comments like that. They are all about preserving British heritage, not killing off non-whites.

I actually know a black person who regularly votes BNP. Weird, huh.

*horse-whips Ernst but only lightly because he makes a valid point*

Extremist parties are always pretty amateurish.

You should seriously go to their website and read their manifesto, policies, beliefs etc before you make comments like that. They are all about preserving British heritage, not killing off non-whites.

I actually know a black person who regularly votes BNP. Weird, huh.

Thanks, I have but they haven't really changed. Alright, Nick Griffin looks okay in a suit but the rest of the membership is the same old crowd of racist goons. Have you any idea how much of the party hierarchy has convictions for violent crimes?

They are not about preserving British heritage in any real sense. Do they morris dance? Do they play cricket? Do they play brass band music on the village green? Is listening to Screwdriver and being offensive British heritage?

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I suggest that those of you that genuinely don't know what the BNP is, clicky below.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/furniture/in_depth/programmes/bnp_special/activities/activities_graphic.jpg


http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/programmes/2001/bnp_special/activities/default.stm

:o

KILL!!!

KILL!!!

The BNP sucks, and if they should ever come into power, then I would move to Texas, and that's saying something...

well actually, the BNP didn't support England in the 2002 World Cup, for the simple reason that six of our players were of 'non-white' origin, including David Beckham. Really patriotic and British of them, eh? :?

the problem is issues that people are concerned about like imigration were not addressed by the main parties for fear of loosing votes if they actualy developed a policy.
As they did not address the issue people drifted to someone who was prepared to take a stance. Even if you think the policies of the BNP are a pile, at least they are not afraid to state them and stick to them.
you have the Labour party breaking election promises and saying that the promise was only good for that term of office and the Cons with virtualy no real policies. Is it any wonder the Sun and Mirror readers are turning to the BNP.
Offer them some alternative that addresses issues they want addressed and I'm sure they will drift back.
But living in a democracy means that even Commies and Nazi have a voice and can stand for election. and good that they can so thier ideas can be debuncked.

I got a BNP 'information' leaflet through the door last night and started seething with anger.

I got a BNP 'information' leaflet through the door last night and started seething with anger.

they are just wannabe nazis

BNP=Nazi scum.

And their National Socialism is a joke.

the problem is that BNP politicians are generally thicker than my homemade porridge with syrup on a cold day. according to searchlight publications, when they bother to turn up to important meetings that set budgets etc., they often make no contribution to proceedings. at least Labour, Tories and Lib Dems have a clue about issues other than race, even if they do break promises. trust me, we are all better off with non-extremist parties. the BNP are also anti-semitic, so even if you are white, you could still be a target if you have Jewish heritage. oh yes - and nick griffin approves of hitler's actions :roll:

the problem is issues that people are concerned about like imigration were not addressed by the main parties for fear of loosing votes if they actualy developed a policy.
As they did not address the issue people drifted to someone who was prepared to take a stance. Even if you think the policies of the BNP are a pile, at least they are not afraid to state them and stick to them.
you have the Labour party breaking election promises and saying that the promise was only good for that term of office and the Cons with virtualy no real policies. Is it any wonder the Sun and Mirror readers are turning to the BNP.
Offer them some alternative that addresses issues they want addressed and I'm sure they will drift back.
But living in a democracy means that even Commies and Nazi have a voice and can stand for election. and good that they can so thier ideas can be debuncked.

This is true. The democratic deficit in the UK is building up to dangerous levels, as both main parties match each other both in their major policies, and in what areas they will not discuss. Both hope that by making unpleasant noises they can keep the Daily Mail off their backs, instead of having the balls to confront incipient racism and nimbyism, and stop letting papers like the Sun and -- much worse -- the Mail get away with printing vitriolic paranoid lies. A brief reminder of some of the Mail's past editorial triumphs ("Hurrah for the Blackshirts" springs to mind) and some serious argument is generally enough to send these creeps scurrying back to the holes they crawled out from.

In a democracy we of course have to let the clowns stand if they want to. Unfortunately both Labour and the Tories have done such a good job of convincing people that voting makes not a blind bit of difference that, in the European and Council elections in particular, fringe parties can come through on the outside. Quite what makes people think that, because Labour and the Tories can't keep election promises, a party of genuine, time-served crooks like the BNP can, is beyond me.

To anyone who might be initially fooled by the BNP's outpourings into thinking that they're not racists: oh yes they are. Scratch the surface a little, and you'll quickly find the reek of white-trash supremacists. They are just shallow-end-of-the-gene-pool bottom feeders; criminals -- usually failed criminals -- with such low self-esteem that they have to latch on to geographical accident and skin colour as their source of "pride".

you were doing so well, until your mail like outpouring :wink:
'To anyone who might be initially fooled by the BNP's outpourings into thinking that they're not racists: oh yes they are. Scratch the surface a little, and you'll quickly find the reek of white-trash supremacists. They are just shallow-end-of-the-gene-pool bottom feeders; criminals -- usually failed criminals -- with such low self-esteem that they have to latch on to geographical accident and skin colour as their source of "pride".'
I agree with your general thrust but not the specifics. :)
The main parties have to grab the sh*tty end of the stick and do something about the issues our BNP friends have raised. Even if it is nothing more than to explain what policies currently exist and how they work.
William Haugh appeared to be the onlyt major political figure that was prepared to address the issues but was accused of racism and all sorts for doing so.
Imigration is a thorny problem and your going to get hurt addressing it but some one has to do it. I'm not saying stop imigration, what I'm saying is address the concerns of the people, after all that is who they MP are supposed to stand for not thier party!

you were doing so well, until your mail like outpouring :wink:

Yeah, well, democracy on an abstract national level is one thing. If I actually saw some BNP dupe dropping leaflets in my close I'd kick his arse for him.

The main parties have to grab the sh*tty end of the stick and do something about the issues our BNP friends have raised. Even if it is nothing more than to explain what policies currently exist and how they work.
William Haugh appeared to be the onlyt major political figure that was prepared to address the issues but was accused of racism and all sorts for doing so.
Imigration is a thorny problem and your going to get hurt addressing it but some one has to do it. I'm not saying stop imigration, what I'm saying is address the concerns of the people, after all that is who they MP are supposed to stand for not thier party!

This is true. But the BNP aren't "addressing" it -- they're just spreading and playing up to the same lies that Labour and the Tories are too afraid to confront. The "concerns of the people" are all too often based on pure myth, presented as the unvarnished truth by an hysterical right-wing idiot media.

There are a lot of knee-jerk racists in this country, and many of them are in the Tory party. The Tories are frightened of alienating them, and Labour are scared of galvanising them. This boil on the nation's backside needs to be lanced; instead, our supposed leaders endlessly shift their position and pretend it isn't there.

If you read through the BNP's policies on things other than immigration, you'll see it's just empty crap about preserving British communities, protecting the environment, solving all our healthcare problems... with no actual substance. Anything aside from their racist policies is just substance-less crap to pander to voters.

Hopefully Blunkett will do something smart and strangle the BNP by banning members from all public sector jobs.
The last thing we need is racists with jobs in schools and hospitals.

You can't in a democracy ban members of a legitimate political party from holding public sector jobs. If you go down this road you're on the slippery slope to dictatorship!
Next it'll be ban the greens, then the Conservatives etc etc.
If they act illegally come down on them like any other criminal, but in the UK you are entitled to your own thoughts and beliefs.
If they are a thin party they will be found out but if you support democracy then they have got to be allowed to stand.
But it does highlight a flaw in democracy, the same one that allowed Hitler to be voted into power.

If you read through the BNP's policies on things other than immigration, you'll see it's just empty crap about preserving British communities, protecting the environment, solving all our healthcare problems... with no actual substance. Anything aside from their racist policies is just substance-less crap to pander to voters.

Hopefully Blunkett will do something smart and strangle the BNP by banning members from all public sector jobs.
The last thing we need is racists with jobs in schools and hospitals.

Couldn't have put it better myself. After all they are politicians (of a sort) they want power and they are prepared to blur the picture a bit to get what they want. Thankfully most voters understand this.

Hopefully Blunkett will do something smart and strangle the BNP by banning members from all public sector jobs.
The last thing we need is racists with jobs in schools and hospitals.

No, the last thing we need is the government banning certain areas of the political spectrum.

Free speech means just that, the reedom to speak your mind, even if it is full of intolerance, hatred an fear.

Luckily, most peolple can realize that the BNP doesn't have a legitaimate political stance.

BNP-Bastard Nazi Pricks.

They are scum. at the same time, they are hypocratic. They are a "nationalist" party (Or so they say), and yet they bring in a Foriegner (That french guy), to support their party. Let's face it. they aren't nationalist, they're just a pathetic bunch of Nazis. I bet they even deny the Holocaust.

Hopefully Blunkett will do something smart and strangle the BNP by banning members from all public sector jobs.
The last thing we need is racists with jobs in schools and hospitals.

No, the last thing we need is the government banning certain areas of the political spectrum.

Free speech means just that, the reedom to speak your mind, even if it is full of intolerance, hatred an fear.

Luckily, most peolple can realize that the BNP doesn't have a legitaimate political stance.


naw let them ban them, maybe then these fair weather nationalists will realize that their watered down politics and their attempts at parlimentary appeasement are doomed to failure. if the cost of being a moderate rightist is the same as being a full blown racialist national socialist, maybe these well meaning if misguided fools with make the leap and become real nazis.

If you want to vote for a non-rascist but pro-British and anti-EU party then vote for the UKIP. (As in United Kingdom Independence Party)

They already have a couple of MEPs I think?

Im a Tory myself but for an anti-EU protest vote why not try the UKIP.

I don't care what colour your skin is, what religion you are or your sexuality as long as you are British!

:twisted:

The BNP are typical socialist scum. Just as the current labour goverment limits the expression of opinions in one way, the BNP will surely do the same. And look at all these hair-brained programs they want to start with our money.

If we just eliminated state sponsered welfare, the immigration issue would resolve itself.

\threadjack

If anyone here is considering voting BNP due to their views on immigration, asylum and the E.U then I would urge them to instead put their vote to the UK Independence party. Whilst I do not happen to share their views and would never consider voting for them, at least they provide a respectable alternative to a far-right racist organisation like the BNP.

The BNP are typical socialist scum. Just as the current labour goverment limits the expression of opinions in one way, the BNP will surely do the same. And look at all these hair-brained programs they want to start with our money.

If we just eliminated state sponsered welfare, the immigration issue would resolve itself.

\threadjack

Groan. Yes, the BNP are socialists. Just like Labour. And the Tories too. I mean, if we're going to make stupid and ill-informed comments, why not go the whole hog?

To Broxborne particularly but any of you considering voting BNP, I suggest you google the names of each of the candidates and find out exactly what they've been up to before you even consider voting for them...

Hopefully Blunkett will do something smart and strangle the BNP by banning members from all public sector jobs.
The last thing we need is racists with jobs in schools and hospitals.

No, the last thing we need is the government banning certain areas of the political spectrum.

Free speech means just that, the reedom to speak your mind, even if it is full of intolerance, hatred an fear.

Luckily, most peolple can realize that the BNP doesn't have a legitaimate political stance.

Not at all. People working in jobs where they're directly affecting the lives of the people they deal with shouldn't have such extremist views.

To Broxborne particularly but any of you considering voting BNP, I suggest you google the names of each of the candidates and find out exactly what they've been up to before you even consider voting for them...

It's worth checking to see who they have listed as proposers and seconders for their candidates, too. The BNP has something of a history of listing people as supporting their candidates without their knowledge or consent. Why a respectable political organsiation should do this is beyond me. The only answer I can come up with is... they're not a respectable political organisation.

Not at all. People working in jobs where they're directly affecting the lives of the people they deal with shouldn't have such extremist views.

Who decides who and what is 'extreme'? I have far-left views. Does this mean I should be banned from working in public offices?

You can't in a democracy ban members of a legitimate political party from holding public sector jobs. If you go down this road you're on the slippery slope to dictatorship!

But technically speaking, did not the coalition ban the Ba'ath party from participating in the public sector of Iraq? By your logic, is this new 'democratic Iraq' the US is trying to set up a democracy?

Sorry to use Iraq, I needed an example.

to anyone who still hasn't voted; please don't vote BNP. if you haven't already seen through the wafer-thin veneer of non-racism that they have used to con voters, just give their 'policies' on race another read through - they themselves can barely hide their true intentions and the bigotry that lies beneath. don't fear islamic terrorists - have they ever managed to stage a serious attack on britain? no, you should be more scared of the BNP and the possibility they will get any kind of power

You should seriously go to their website and read their manifesto, policies, beliefs etc before you make comments like that. They are all about preserving British heritage, not killing off non-whites.

I actually know a black person who regularly votes BNP. Weird, huh.

Thanks, I have but they haven't really changed. Alright, Nick Griffin looks okay in a suit but the rest of the membership is the same old crowd of racist goons. Have you any idea how much of the party hierarchy has convictions for violent crimes?

They are not about preserving British heritage in any real sense. Do they morris dance? Do they play cricket? Do they play brass band music on the village green? Is listening to Screwdriver and being offensive British heritage?

Their idea of preserving British Heritage is selling copies of their crappy paper outside Stamford Bridge on a Saturday afternoon. They will not be taken seriously until they have a view of the world which does not revolve around basically racist/English superiority. Clothes do not maketh the man and Mr Griffin is still a thick headed yob.

Is listening to Screwdriver and being offensive British heritage?

SKrewdriver - listening to the first LP "All Skrewed Up" and the two 7"ers after that is socially acceptable, this is when they were just a punk/rhythm-and-blues band and before they started spouting off racist drivel.

I saw the party ploitical broadcast on Channel 5 the other week and Nick Griffin cames across really smarmy. The BNP are scum.

I read their election leaflet. I think it was delivered by the regular postman, along with lots of other unsolicited advertising. As they are standing for election, they are entitled to have their drivel delivered by the post office.

Most of it seemed to be really paranoid stuff suggesting that the country is about to be crowded out by asylum seekers, whether genuine or bogus. Well, a lot of people live in UK, and there is a limit to population growth. But I would humbly suggest that most population growth due to immigration is dwarfed by population growth due to birth. These people would be better employed handing out free contraceptives.

I think I looked at their website a while ago and started reading something there entitled 'what is wrong with capitalism'. Three or four paragraphs into the article, they said that the problem was that capitalism needed immigrants and that this is a bad thing.

This party is obsessed with one issue, immigration, and I don't think it is the biggest issue of the day somehow.

Did you get the leaflet with the frankly paranoid ;

"the government are secretly planning to build five cities the size of Birmingham to house asylum seekers"?

Pffffft! :lol:

Most You people are really stupid you don't even know the BNP's Policies are you just go along with what the newspapers say, The BNP are not Nazi's. Your all quite happy to allow Polititions like Tony Blair get away with murder atleast the BNP isn't corrupt like the labour party.
Modern Politics is scared of radical partys like the BNP because modern democracy has become so corrupt.

Stopping mass Immagration, Putting Pensioners first, Keeping the pound, Stopping asylum seekers from getting the best benefits

They sound like reasonable policies to me and personally i'd vote for the BNP anyday

Most You people are really stupid you don't even know the BNP's Policies are

We DO know we just don't agree. Thats democracy. Thats why the BNP are a minority

you just go along with what the newspapers say, The BNP are not Nazi's.

DUH !!

Your all quite happy to allow Polititions like Tony Blair get away with murder

No. If he murdereed someone I wouldn't vote for him

atleast the BNP isn't corrupt like the labour party.

Because thankfully it doesn't have enough to fight over.

Modern Politics is scared of radical partys like the BNP because modern democracy has become so corrupt.

Its corrupt but not stupid.(mostly)

Stopping mass Immagration, Putting Pensioners first, Keeping the pound, Stopping asylum seekers from getting the best benefits

Ejecting non british,Remaining isolated,Selective socialism.

They sound like reasonable policies to me and personally i'd vote for the BNP anyday

Well thankfully you are a minority.

The BNP are typical socialist scum. Just as the current labour goverment limits the expression of opinions in one way, the BNP will surely do the same. And look at all these hair-brained programs they want to start with our money.

If we just eliminated state sponsered welfare, the immigration issue would resolve itself.

\threadjack

My Friend, you seem to have poor political knowledge, for the BNP are not socialists. According to the Linear Political Spectrum they should be classed as leaning to the Far-Right, for the BNP does contain a range of political beliefs, the majority from the Right to the Far-Right. This can be identified because Far-Right wing parties end to use Nationalistic pride to justify radical policies e.g. Kick out asylum seekers to keep Britain British, even though there is no such thing as a pure "British" person. Especially since we have been invaded by the Romans, the Saxons (a Germanic people) and the Normans (French). Socialists believe in, as do the far-rights, that people should receive benefits from the state (even to the extent of a Nanny State) and work for the state. However, Socialists believe in equality to all, including the government, which is why Socialists tend to believe in democratic systems. Far-rights tend to break this promise, as they tend to need the support of rich industrialists to get into power, the BNP are a prime example as they have little care in their policies for the environment.
I am a Green voter because I feel that it is a party not only for Britain but also for the world. Surely the Environment is important to us all. I think that the mainstream parties have become false lying vote grabbers. The Green Party maybe young and they need people who have studied political sciences for most of their life, which is why I intend to in the future run as the Green candidate for my area (as there isn't one).

Kaiser Wilhelm von Sheward

Most You people are really stupid you don't even know the BNP's Policies are you just go along with what the newspapers say

Personally, I know what the BNPs avowed policies are from reading their website.

This included such gems as the claim that they "intended to maintain the traditional British division between Church and State". This policy stayed up on their website for over a month after one of their spokesmen was asked on Radio 4 if he knew who the head of state was*, and if he knew who the Supreme Governor of the Church of England was**.

We won't even bother to mention the role of the Lords Spiritual at this point, suffice to say I have met 12 year olds who have a firmer understanding of the United Kingdom's politcal system and history than whoever it was that wrote the policies on the BNP website.

* Hint: E_______ W_____
** Hint: E_______ W_____

Most You people are really stupid you don't even know the BNP's Policies are you just go along with what the newspapers say, The BNP are not Nazi's. Your all quite happy to allow Polititions like Tony Blair get away with murder atleast the BNP isn't corrupt like the labour party.
Modern Politics is scared of radical partys like the BNP because modern democracy has become so corrupt.

Stopping mass Immagration, Putting Pensioners first, Keeping the pound, Stopping asylum seekers from getting the best benefits

They sound like reasonable policies to me and personally i'd vote for the BNP anyday

The BNP ought not be feared since the number of threads concerning the BNP in this forum and the exposure they receive are not proportionate to the support they receive from the electorate which is in fact relatively small. The reason the BNP should be detested is because they appeal to the basest, most detestable of human characteristics - xenophobia, ignorance and fear.

One thing that did make me laugh though was because their party eleciton broadcast on channel 5 was apparently censored - they had to remove a clip about a woman talking about how her daughter was drugged and raped and the man who did it was BLACK!!! Clearly then he was representative of the entire community and they must all be deported immediately.

So you don't agree with the war on Iraq? One could argue that you'd support a party that would allow Saddam to get away with "murder", at least that would be more legally accurate - it works both ways you see.

Given the fact that their are serious labour shortages in Great Britian at the moment I would be quite happy to see skilled European workers immigrate to this country (I hardly see the 14-40,000 estimate as being a tidal wave), incidentally these people cannot claim the majority of benefits unless they are in work. When I call a plumber to fix my leaky tap I really don't care if he's English, Polish, or if he has recently travelled from the land of Zog providing he can fix my tap.

There are problems with capitalism, immigration and asylum yes, but the BNP's methods of tackling them seem to me to be rather like fixing a squeaky hinge by smashing down the whole door.

P.S: I just voted for Labour in both elections.

It's really just the National Front, isn't it? I remember all of the council estates with "NF" scrawled on walls in spraypaint. It's basically just a party representing those who feel disenfranchised, and want to blame it on someone. Unfortunately, this takes a racial and xenophobic flavour. Why do you think it's just people who live on estates who feel this way? Because they're desperately poor, and the only people that make themselves accessible to take this out on are the foreigners and the other races, often every bit as badly off as they are themselves.

Of course, if someone from these races or nationalities succeeds, then it's got to be because they're getting an unfair advantage, isn't it? It can't be because they're not sitting on the dole complaining, waiting for the next time they have to go sign on.

well actually, the BNP didn't support England in the 2002 World Cup, for the simple reason that six of our players were of 'non-white' origin, including David Beckham. Really patriotic and British of them, eh?

:roll: Yeah, whatever gets you through the day. :roll:

http://www.bnp.org.uk/news/2004_june/news_june13.htm

I voted Green, I sneered like anything when I saw the BNP were at the top though.

BNP and UKIP are pretty simillar in my mind; characterised by fear and hatred of people who aren't "British" (whatever that means).

I voted Green, I sneered like anything when I saw the BNP were at the top though.

BNP and UKIP are pretty simillar in my mind; characterised by fear and hatred of people who aren't "British" (whatever that means).

I voted Green, I sneered like anything when I saw the BNP were at the top though.

BNP and UKIP are pretty simillar in my mind; characterised by fear and hatred of people who aren't "British" (whatever that means).

Best quote was by Kilroy trying to dispel arguments that he was a racist when asked about the Spanish:

"I love the Spanish, I think they're a great country...I just don't trust them".

Best quote was by Kilroy trying to dispel arguments that he was a racist when asked about the Spanish:

"I love the Spanish, I think they're a great country...I just don't trust them".

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Spanish aren't a race, no?

To classify the BNP as Nazis is incorrect and dangerous. They're not- they're undoubtably fascists- but in the Le Pen Euronationalist tradition as opposed to Hitlerite National Socialists.

Equally the standard tactics of reeling off BNP members criminal convictions in ineffective. They've learnt to counter it (by doing the same with the mainstream parties) and it doesen't bother most of their target constituancy anyway. Far better are the following quotes (both from BNP deputy leader Tony Lecomber):

"The rich are genetically superior to the poor"
"What we need is not more democracy but less"

The heady days of streetfighting in the late 90's are over. The battle now is to win the hearts and minds of the BNPs target audience (mainly those voters who live in impovrished areas and feel rightly abandoned by the mainstream).

I wouldn't use Searchlight as a source either. They were proscribed as an organisation by Anti Fascist Action. Bunch of MI5 bastards that they are.

I believe that the BNP is a racist, facist party. It should not be allowed to exsist, and all members should be punished.

omg your all mad we cant let theses facist basterds get into power it would go against evrything we hold valuble and what are grandfathers fought for in the war

LOL, my grandfather fought in the war and voted BNP in all the elctions he could before he died, so that crap about "what our grandfathers fought against" doesnt wash. Just go and ask some of the oap's in your area what they think of immigration and see what answer you get.

Anyways, a bit of useless trivia for you all. I used to have my picture up on the BNP website for quite a while, i dunno if its still there or not. But anyone who finds me gets a lollipop. :lol:

I wouldn't use Searchlight as a source either.

No, they are not to be trusted.

Nobody should vote for them, unless they admit to being racist. Infact, they shouldn't be allowed to vote for them. They should be a banned party.

I got a BNP 'information' leaflet through the door last night and started seething with anger.

It burns pretty well though :lol: , thats the first thing i did with it

there is only one option left...........the moster raving loony party :lol: :lol: :lol:

I got a BNP 'information' leaflet through the door last night and started seething with anger.

It burns pretty well though :lol: , thats the first thing i did with it

I got one from the 'English Democratic Party', basically the same as the BNP but for a seperate England, and I put it into recycling....

Nobody should vote for them, unless they admit to being racist. Infact, they shouldn't be allowed to vote for them. They should be a banned party.

Thereby ignoring freedom of speech and imposing one man's view on everyone else. They'd ban you too if they got in, let's just put it that way.

I got a BNP leaflet a few days ago. it was absalout Crap.
It said about: Getting the Asylum 'wave' out of Skipton: Absalout rubbish, I live near Skipton and their is no asylum wave.
Getting the yobs out of Grassington and our rural villages: What yobs? Their hasn't been a breaking that I know about for 2 years the last act of vandalism was by a adult from London.
Their was a lot more...

I got one from the 'English Democratic Party', basically the same as the BNP but for a seperate EnglandPretty much. They're a far right split-off from the 'Campaign for an English Parliment' and are in alliance with 'Third Way' (a split off from the National Front led by Patrick Harrington).

Anyways, a bit of useless trivia for you all. I used to have my picture up on the BNP website for quite a while, i dunno if its still there or not. But anyone who finds me gets a lollipop.You're JohnJoyTree, one of the moderators on Stormfront. Would you like me to print your real name and personal details as well? :twisted:

Thankfully the BMP have just shuffered badly in the local elections

good thing to

interestingly the UKIP (united kingdom independance party (on europe) have done better i wonder what that means for the later euro elections

I believe that the BNP is a racist, facist party. It should not be allowed to exsist, and all members should be punished.

Incidentally fascist parties are characterised by their support for measures such as censorship and the erosion of civil liberties. Banning a party such as the BNP would be in itself a fascist gesture.

LOL, my grandfather fought in the war and voted BNP in all the elctions he could before he died, so that crap about "what our grandfathers fought against" doesnt wash. Just go and ask some of the oap's in your area what they think of immigration and see what answer you get.

Anyways, a bit of useless trivia for you all. I used to have my picture up on the BNP website for quite a while, i dunno if its still there or not. But anyone who finds me gets a lollipop. :lol:

I would have thought that someone who fought alongside many eastern Europeans during the Battle of Britian (I assume he did) to safeguard the freedom of this country would be less closed minded about immigration.

well actually, the BNP didn't support England in the 2002 World Cup, for the simple reason that six of our players were of 'non-white' origin, including David Beckham. Really patriotic and British of them, eh? :?

The thing that really annoys me about the BNP is that they bring colour into the equation. Surely a BRITISH Nationalist Party would support anyone who considers themselves British regardless of any considerations of colour or religion etc.

I kinda want to vote for them... but not sure I should. I agree with a lot of their policies, but they seem like a mickey mouse organisation... ie not professional.
It's the problem with any organization on the fringe. They may have something to say, and one may want to vote for them. However, they have absolutely no structure.

If you want to vote for a non-rascist but pro-British and anti-EU party then vote for the UKIP. (As in United Kingdom Independence Party)

Not racist, but certainly also not competent.

Kilroy's already gone on record saying he'll spend as little time as possible actually debating policy with other MEPs. Despite his political career being....young he's already managed to make enough of a mess in speeches when trying to clear himself of racism charges, and seems to be hoping to win purely via the Schwarzennegger card.

I think the only problems presented by immigration could be solved by forcing employers to pay the same wages for the same workload and by refraining from entering immigrants into the NHS/council housing/other welfare programmes until they've paid a prerequisite amount of taxes (or heck, in desperate situations like need of medicaid or housing then loan the services out.) These are the main legitimate concerns, I feel; people pay taxes their entire life, need to suckle at some Socialist teet or other but have to go on a several month waiting list for the programmes they've been forced into paying for. Resentment against immigrants who need these services being given them much more rapidly is bound to develop, and in some respects quite rightly so; it truly isn't fair. To want fewer in the country is ridiculous; as our nation gets older and the purden of pensions increases we'll be crying out for more kids and immigrants.

To cover something said earlier, Hitler was never voted into power. He was appointed to Chancellorship by a very reluctant President Hindenburg and assumed the title of Fuhrer as Hindenburg became more senile, at the time of Hitler's appointment the Nazi Party were actually dropping out of favour as Germany stabilised.

God, that sodding BNP website gave me a headache. The same old rubbish, same old language usage.

Thereby ignoring freedom of speech and imposing one man's view on everyone else. They'd ban you too if they got in, let's just put it that way.

The BNP would ban a lot of things. That's why they should be banned.

I got one from the 'English Democratic Party', basically the same as the BNP but for a seperate EnglandPretty much. They're a far right split-off from the 'Campaign for an English Parliment' and are in alliance with 'Third Way' (a split off from the National Front led by Patrick Harrington).

See, my dad won't accept that they're pretty much the same as the NF...he say's they're not racist! :roll:

Thereby ignoring freedom of speech and imposing one man's view on everyone else. They'd ban you too if they got in, let's just put it that way.

The BNP would ban a lot of things. That's why they should be banned.

So the only way to protect our freedoms are to eliminate our freedoms.

Interesting argument.

well actually, the BNP didn't support England in the 2002 World Cup, for the simple reason that six of our players were of 'non-white' origin, including David Beckham. Really patriotic and British of them, eh?

:roll: Yeah, whatever gets you through the day. :roll:

http://www.bnp.org.uk/news/2004_june/news_june13.htm

Duchbag, i stand corrected, and i'm sure there will be many other red faces at searchlight, where i read that story. but the fact remains, they are racist and should not be voted for. you just need to read their recent leaflet to see it. they have realised that most voters don't want supremacists running their country or area, which is why they put on the front of non-racism. i happen to agree that it looks like there has been a rush on the part of more mainstream parties to say 'oh, the bnp are still racists, no matter what they tell you, so vote for us!' but even so, just use your common sense on this. at least tony blair, michael howard, charles kennedy, and robert kilroy-silk aren't closet racists or known criminals (although as a liberal, i was fairly unimpressed with his remarks about arabs) however, lesson learned: i will try and be more careful about my sources in future.

ps. come to think of it, tony blair could be classed as a war criminal for starting an unnecessary war with iraq, and causing the deaths of british and iraqi people from his safe, cosy office. is somebody going to put him on trial, along with saddam hussein?