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I am a white male, and racially tolerent. However, i get quite annoyed at these double standards in terms of racism. Just say for example, someone had a mainstream connvention where you were only allowed in if you are white. People would go balistic. However there are black music and film awards, black tv channels etc, and this is considered ok. I have black friends you regularly call me a "honkey". Fine, i accept that because they are only joking, however, do you think i could call them the N word back, hmmm.....

I feel your pain..that's why I only associate with Aryans

To make up for it I call my friends, "Crackas" and when one of my black friends calls us that I go, "You can't say that word. That's our word."

I don't agree with the double standard either. Ethnophoulisms are harmful no matter their usage.

It's a lot of cock and bull! If they (other races) can be racist against us, then we deserve the same right. If they want us to not be racist, thenm the same applies to them.

I am a white male, and racially tolerent. However, i get quite annoyed at these double standards in terms of racism. Just say for example, someone had a mainstream connvention where you were only allowed in if you are white. People would go balistic. However there are black music and film awards, black tv channels etc, and this is considered ok. I have black friends you regularly call me a "honkey". Fine, i accept that because they are only joking, however, do you think i could call them the N word back, hmmm.....

You do realise that by even daring to raise the subject the knee jerk reaction of the PC Thought Police will have already branded you racist and chalk it down to "White Middle Class Male" disgruntlement

Aside from race being a BS artificial construct, I would suggest going to live in a foreign country where you are an ethnic minority. It does heaps for understanding when someone who claims to be racially tollerant is on the nasty end of the stick.

(13 years in Japan, where I have occassionally faced some quite blatant prejudice and dsicrimination.)

I am a white male, and racially tolerent. However, i get quite annoyed at these double standards in terms of racism. Just say for example, someone had a mainstream connvention where you were only allowed in if you are white. People would go balistic. However there are black music and film awards, black tv channels etc, and this is considered ok. I have black friends you regularly call me a "honkey". Fine, i accept that because they are only joking, however, do you think i could call them the N word back, hmmm.....

You do realise that by even daring to raise the subject the knee jerk reaction of the PC Thought Police will have already branded you racist and chalk it down to "White Middle Class Male" disgruntlement

How stereotypical...

They can just kiss my shiney metal ass!!

Aside from race being a BS artificial construct, I would suggest going to live in a foreign country where you are an ethnic minority. It does heaps for understanding when someone who claims to be racially tollerant is on the nasty end of the stick.

(13 years in Japan, where I have occassionally faced some quite blatant prejudice and dsicrimination.)

Yes, being a minority is by far the best way to appreciate the effects of such a status. I grew up in an area where I was a part of a racial, cultural, and to some extent religious, minority. It definitely makes it hard to condemn someone when they went through what you did and much worse. That's why I'm such a strong proponent of the deconstruction of race, I've seen what it has done. The racial slurs I think are harmful because they are part of perpetuating this fabricated thing we call race.

Aside from race being a BS artificial construct, I would suggest going to live in a foreign country where you are an ethnic minority. It does heaps for understanding when someone who claims to be racially tollerant is on the nasty end of the stick.

(13 years in Japan, where I have occassionally faced some quite blatant prejudice and dsicrimination.)

(Half my life in the Middle-East. I fail to see your point)

I agree with you A-B and I am pretty much the same situation.

The only way that the barriers can be truly brought down is if people work for the same common culture, ideals and cause. This being the culture of the majority of the people within a country. If a person of any race has a passport/nationality of any other country, then they SHOULD get out there and start supporting it and join in its culture rather than practice their own. This goes for every single race and culture.

I fail to see an alternative that will work more effectively in the long run...

What anglo said is true, it's all "let's be nice to the minorities" and stuff, but the white majory is left out. No, we shouldn't be oppressing the minorities, but that doesn't mean they can oppress us!

I mean, i never say the N word, mostly out of fear from the huge black football players, but also just out of decency. I don't like being called a cracker, so i don't say any other racist slang.

Also, just because i can, i'm going to bring up affirmative action. Total BS. Some other dude gets to go to colledge just because he's black, asian, whatever? Guess what, while you're giving him opportunities, you're taking them away from me. Yeah, give him a good education, but that means doing it from the start, cleaning up bad neighborhoods, not handing out scholarships to them. And, when you really look at it, most of them could have gotten a better education if they felt like it, they're just too lazy to do it. I could be getting far better grades than i do i'm just a lazy ass, and most people are. In another thread someone said that it's the "black" culture: the cool thing to do is to fail. If you're smart, you're a nerd, and you have no friends.

Lastly, i would like to point out that when all the minorities get together, they become the majority, and do precisely the same thing that pisses them off in the first place to the previous majority. Tyranny of the majory my ass! Who is the majority, anyway!?

What is 'race'? It's nothing more than a way of involuntarily segregating society. It's no better than saying class...

Ethnic background describes a person heritage more than 'race'... Ethnic background makes it sounds like they are bringing something rather than forming another group.

We should stop thinking of people as 'races' and start thinking of them as people. Their ethnic background is only a cultural identification to which they are native. It means they are different, which is usually a good thing and this should be celebrated because they can bring something another culture is lacking...

I wish crackers would stop bitching so much.

You have it good, and you always have (I'm speaking about the majority here).

Shut up about blacks stealing your jobs and all that BS, because it's really not happening.

Actually, just shut up in general, you don't know what you're talking about.

Moral of the story?

People have prejudice.

I am white. I once tried to date a black girl that I found amazing. We hit it off pretty good but her family gave her crap for dating an oppressor.

I also dated a Japanese girl for a short spell. Her dad was an outright racist so that ended as well.

A person is not defined by their looks.

We have come a long way but we still have a long way to go.

I wish crackers would stop bitching so much.

You have it good, and you always have (I'm speaking about the majority here).

Shut up about blacks stealing your jobs and all that BS, because it's really not happening.

Actually, just shut up in general, you don't know what you're talking about.

Trying to stir things up?

I wish crackers would stop bitching so much.

You have it good, and you always have (I'm speaking about the majority here).

Shut up about blacks stealing your jobs and all that BS, because it's really not happening.

Actually, just shut up in general, you don't know what you're talking about.

Blacks stealing jobs?

You sure you know what's going on?

Aside from race being a BS artificial construct, I would suggest going to live in a foreign country where you are an ethnic minority. It does heaps for understanding when someone who claims to be racially tollerant is on the nasty end of the stick.

(13 years in Japan, where I have occassionally faced some quite blatant prejudice and dsicrimination.)

(Half my life in the Middle-East. I fail to see your point)

I agree with you A-B and I am pretty much the same situation.

The only way that the barriers can be truly brought down is if people work for the same common culture, ideals and cause. This being the culture of the majority of the people within a country. If a person of any race has a passport/nationality of any other country, then they SHOULD get out there and start supporting it and join in its culture rather than practice their own. This goes for every single race and culture.

I fail to see an alternative that will work more effectively in the long run...

I would love to see that happen, but sadly, it never will. People are too lazy, and they can get better perks by complaining. And besides, it's good to have pride in your roots. I mean, I'm welsh, which means absolutley nothing to most people, but i think it's kinda cool, and it gives me and my family a kind of legacy. The problem isn't necessarily that they all need to go to one country, they need to separate nationality with ethnicity. I'm proud to be welsh, but i AM an american. He's proud to be black, which makes us different, and maybe i don't like him for being black (that's an example, i'm not actually racist). But, while he may be black, he's an american too, so hey, why hate? We're all in this country together, let's all be americans. Separate ethnicity and nationality, it's the only way.

If you do, however, put everyone of a race into one country, and eventually they start thinking they're better. That's what Europe did, isn't it? That's what happened with Hitler. Mixed together, though, and you can feel that way about your nation, and not about your race. Still bad, but it becomes harder for the Hitlers to take power, and for racial things to happen. And, once someone else becomes a citizen, you can't criticize them, or call them inferior, because they're the same as you.

Any of that make sense to anyone?

Read Michael Moore's Stupid White Men... There are some good facts about the blacks in America...

I wish crackers would stop bitching so much.

You have it good, and you always have (I'm speaking about the majority here).

Shut up about blacks stealing your jobs and all that BS, because it's really not happening.

Actually, just shut up in general, you don't know what you're talking about.

A very mature addition to the conversation I see!

So are you telling me that affirmative action is a good thing? It promotes inequality amongst all of society and will probably end up causing a lot of trouble in the not so distant future...

Aside from race being a BS artificial construct, I would suggest going to live in a foreign country where you are an ethnic minority. It does heaps for understanding when someone who claims to be racially tollerant is on the nasty end of the stick.

(13 years in Japan, where I have occassionally faced some quite blatant prejudice and dsicrimination.)

(Half my life in the Middle-East. I fail to see your point)

I agree with you A-B and I am pretty much the same situation.

The only way that the barriers can be truly brought down is if people work for the same common culture, ideals and cause. This being the culture of the majority of the people within a country. If a person of any race has a passport/nationality of any other country, then they SHOULD get out there and start supporting it and join in its culture rather than practice their own. This goes for every single race and culture.

I fail to see an alternative that will work more effectively in the long run...

I would love to see that happen, but sadly, it never will. People are too lazy, and they can get better perks by complaining. And besides, it's good to have pride in your roots. I mean, I'm welsh, which means absolutley nothing to most people, but i think it's kinda cool, and it gives me and my family a kind of legacy. The problem isn't necessarily that they all need to go to one country, they need to separate nationality with ethnicity. I'm proud to be welsh, but i AM an american. He's proud to be black, which makes us different, and maybe i don't like him for being black (that's an example, i'm not actually racist). But, while he may be black, he's an american too, so hey, why hate? We're all in this country together, let's all be americans. Separate ethnicity and nationality, it's the only way.

If you do, however, put everyone of a race into one country, and eventually they start thinking they're better. That's what Europe did, isn't it? That's what happened with Hitler. Mixed together, though, and you can feel that way about your nation, and not about your race. Still bad, but it becomes harder for the Hitlers to take power, and for racial things to happen. And, once someone else becomes a citizen, you can't criticize them, or call them inferior, because they're the same as you.

Any of that make sense to anyone?

It does - but what your saying only makes multiculturalism futile... I myself am opposed to the current form of modern multiculturalism because it creates confrontation between different races. The idea that certain races are inferior is complete nonsense and is a bad way of arguing against multiculturalism. It is something people need to stop and I am glad that you pointed it out!

BTW - what are you doing across the pond? Why are you not in Great Britain where you belong? :) (That's coming from a very nationalist British person BTW ;))

I'm a minority and I couldn't care less if someone called me a racial insult. All I ask is for the same thing in return : they don't care when I, or anyone else, does the same thing to them. It works out for myself pretty well.

I wish crackers would stop bitching so much.

You have it good, and you always have (I'm speaking about the majority here).

Shut up about blacks stealing your jobs and all that BS, because it's really not happening.

Actually, just shut up in general, you don't know what you're talking about.

A very mature addition to the conversation I see!

So are you telling me that affirmative action is a good thing? It promotes inequality amongst all of society and will probably end up causing a lot of trouble in the not so distant future...

All I'm saying is people are implying blacks are coming in droves to take white's jobs, which is simply not true.

Affirmative action doesn't have as much a grasp as people like to think it does, I don't agree with it, and most minorities don't agree with it either.

I wish crackers would stop bitching so much.

You have it good, and you always have (I'm speaking about the majority here).

Shut up about blacks stealing your jobs and all that BS, because it's really not happening.

Actually, just shut up in general, you don't know what you're talking about.

A very mature addition to the conversation I see!

So are you telling me that affirmative action is a good thing? It promotes inequality amongst all of society and will probably end up causing a lot of trouble in the not so distant future...
But affirmative action is necessary, because otherwise those minorities just can'r keep up with us white folks :roll:
The worst part about affirmative action is that it's racist to everyone! It takes opportunity away from white people, and gives it to "people of color" which totally says that they're not as good as us, otherwise they'd be able to do it on their own. (note: I do'nt believe this- that's why I hate AA)


"I went to a high school that was 60% minorities"
-some girl I met this past weekend

Listen if we want true racial equility everyone must be held accountable for what they say. It can't just be the majority being punished and the minority allowed to say what the hell they want. I believe you make it so everyone can say what they want or you just shut up about that topic. I also believe rasism is wrong and I know the damages that it causes.

Listen if we want true racial equility everyone must be held accountable for what they say. It can't just be the majority being punished and the minority allowed to say what the hell they want. I believe you make it so everyone can say what they want or you just shut up about that topic. I also believe rasism is wrong and I know the damages that it causes.