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It just hit the news a little bit ago... We just received word that US attacked a wedding party (i think with a helicopter,) killing about 40 people. This is a terrible tragedy, one we'll probably hear about for weeks.

But, you know, we probably wouldn't have bombed the place if they didn't celebrate the wedding by firing 20 AK-47s wildly in the air in a warzone...

These guys HAVE to stop that stupid celbratory gun shooting stuff! First they shot up and the bullets come down and kill people, and now they present themselves as a hot military target... smart... really smart.


And believe it or not, the exact same thing happened in afghanistan a year or two ago... don't these people learn?

DO NOT FIRE YOUR GUNS NEAR THE COALITION IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE DEAD.

Sheesh.

Darwin award anyone? :)

And Americans wonder why everyone sneers at them. As if this stuff wasn't bad enough, insensitive too. :roll:

Your...*sigh* right Raysia.

What morons in their right mind would shoot guns in the air when a chopper is around? What was the point of bringing guns to a WEDDING? A WEDDING!

Common sense people...

now who's handing out the award?

And Americans wonder why everyone sneers at them. As if this stuff wasn't bad enough, insensitive too. :roll:

:roll:

America = Teen
Rest of the world = Parent

Parent: *rambles*
America: You just don't understand me! *slams door, which lauches a bomb*
-Repeat-!

wasn't this in afghanistan a couple years ago? or did they do it again?

What was the point of bringing guns to a WEDDING? A WEDDING!

Common sense people...

are you saying you would want to go anywhere in afghanistan without a pile of weapons?

In a sort of related topic, would anyone consider it feasible to do some Darwin Awards for NS?

What was the point of bringing guns to a WEDDING? A WEDDING!

Common sense people...

are you saying you would want to go anywhere in afghanistan without a pile of weapons?

A WEDDING!

Okay, we get past the insanity of bringing a machine gun to a wedding. That's no excuse for shooting guns in the air. I'm PRETTY DAMN SURE they heard a helicopter nearby. Doncha think the chopper would see bullets flying in the sky as a threat?

And I suppose next thing we know the whole incident will be blamed on the Whitehouse.

Okay, we get past the insanity of bringing a machine gun to a wedding. That's no excuse for shooting guns in the air. I'm PRETTY DAMN SURE they heard a helicopter nearby. Doncha think the chopper would see bullets flying in the sky as a threat?

i seem to recall that most of the death was from a airplane dropping a number of large bombs. i'll have to check.

Okay, we get past the insanity of bringing a machine gun to a wedding. That's no excuse for shooting guns in the air. I'm PRETTY DAMN SURE they heard a helicopter nearby. Doncha think the chopper would see bullets flying in the sky as a threat?

i seem to recall that most of the death was from a airplane dropping a number of large bombs. i'll have to check.

I'm going from what Raysia says. I'm checkin CNN, but they got almost nothing on the subject.

http://www.stephaniesworld.com/canadiansgetsbombed.jpg

http://www.stephaniesworld.com/canadiansgetsbombed.jpg

Yeah, we need that glacier for drinking water in Nevada. :lol: Look out Canada!

http://www.stephaniesworld.com/canadiansgetsbombed.jpg

....I wondered when I'll see you again....

Anyways, the Canadians needed to be taken out. They were blocking the road.

:lol:

You are saying that these people should give up their traditions, just because there are paranoid, trigger-happy americans around?

It's like taking out a house because they were letting off fireworks. Imagine the scene - america is occupied by Iraqi forces (lets not go too deep), and it;s the foruth of july. Fireworks are being set off. An Iraqi patrol chopper sees them, WHAMMO!

We must understand each others cultures if there is to be peace.

DP

:lol:

You are saying that these people should give up their traditions, just because there are paranoid, trigger-happy americans around?

It's like taking out a house because they were letting off fireworks. Imagine the scene - america is occupied by Iraqi forces (lets not go too deep), and it;s the foruth of july. Fireworks are being set off. An Iraqi patrol chopper sees them, WHAMMO!

We must understand each others cultures if there is to be peace.

:shock: I won't even comment on this post.

Find some better examples and better stereotypes.
(side note, thanks to the example of this event, I won't be shooting off fireworks at my house next time Iraq occupies the U.S.)

http://www.stephaniesworld.com/canadiansgetsbombed.jpg

Yeah, we need that glacier for drinking water in Nevada. :lol: Look out Canada!

Umm, actually I was trying to point out when the Americans bombed the crap out of our troops in Afghanistan last year, when , umm we were there trying to help them..

And I suppose next thing we know the whole incident will be blamed on the Whitehouse.

Damn Straight :wink: !

http://www.stephaniesworld.com/canadiansgetsbombed.jpg

Yeah, we need that glacier for drinking water in Nevada. :lol: Look out Canada!

Umm, actually I was trying to point out when the Americans bombed the crap out of our troops in Afghanistan last year, when , umm we were there trying to help them..

I know, Steph. I was appreciating the humour and running with it...perhaps I got a bit carried away.

On a serious note: So you don't think it's possible that the U.S. will come after Canada for fresh water?

http://www.stephaniesworld.com/canadiansgetsbombed.jpg

Yeah, we need that glacier for drinking water in Nevada. :lol: Look out Canada!

Umm, actually I was trying to point out when the Americans bombed the crap out of our troops in Afghanistan last year, when , umm we were there trying to help them..

I know, Steph. I was appreciating the humour and running with it...perhaps I got a bit carried away.

On a serious note: So you don't think it's possible that the U.S. will come after Canada for fresh water?

DP

D*MN Server!

It just hit the news a little bit ago... We just received word that US attacked a wedding party (i think with a helicopter,) killing about 40 people. This is a terrible tragedy, one we'll probably hear about for weeks.

But, you know, we probably wouldn't have bombed the place if they didn't celebrate the wedding by firing 20 AK-47s wildly in the air in a warzone...

These guys HAVE to stop that stupid celbratory gun shooting stuff! First they shot up and the bullets come down and kill people, and now they present themselves as a hot military target... smart... really smart.


And believe it or not, the exact same thing happened in afghanistan a year or two ago... don't these people learn?

DO NOT FIRE YOUR GUNS NEAR THE COALITION IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE DEAD.

Sheesh.

Darwin award anyone? :)Goddam it Raysia, its stuff like this that makes me want to flame you so fucking hard.

*hands on his mouth*

And I suppose next thing we know the whole incident will be blamed on the Whitehouse.

Damn Straight :wink: !

No, we'll blame Clinton

We've blamed him for 9/11
We've blamed him for the economy
We've blamed him for being a pervert

Why not add another to the list?

Just to remind you, I wasn't the one who really started this thread... remember about 4 months ago, just after Saddam was captured, like 40 people died from bullets raining from the sky from celebratory? Well, someone nominated that for a darwin award, so this is really just a follow up to that :)

Now, seriously, two comments, as so no one gets an even worse idea of my view on this... This could be 2 possibilities...

1) we mistook celebratory fire (stupid ritual) at a wedding for an insurgent stronghold. (that's the story the witnesses on the ground told us)

2) we were right, and it was just another fake wedding ceremony cover-up for an insurgent stronghold.

Of course, there is the 3rd option, which I hope no one is stupid enough to believe, that is that Americans just like to bomb civillians.

And I suppose next thing we know the whole incident will be blamed on the Whitehouse.

Damn Straight :wink: !

No, we'll blame Clinton

We've blamed him for 9/11
We've blamed him for the economy
We've blamed him for being a pervert

Why not add another to the list?We could, easily.
"If clinton hadn't left the white house after only 2 terms, we wouldn't BE in iraq!"
:P

:lol:

You are saying that these people should give up their traditions, just because there are paranoid, trigger-happy americans around?

It's like taking out a house because they were letting off fireworks. Imagine the scene - america is occupied by Iraqi forces (lets not go too deep), and it;s the foruth of july. Fireworks are being set off. An Iraqi patrol chopper sees them, WHAMMO!

We must understand each others cultures if there is to be peace.

yes, yes that do, and this is just the begining, they also have to give up killing jews, beating their wives and FGM

wait, when did we start believing the iraqis?

a US infanty patrol sent to follow up the bombing and check for intelegence said they found (along with all the guns) advanced communication equipment and syrian passports among the rubble

In a sort of related topic, would anyone consider it feasible to do some Darwin Awards for NS?

Yeah, some guy walked into the Volcano of old, the most gun crazy thread south of the North pole, and started threatening, and just generally annoying people. That character wasn't with us long.

wait, when did we start believing the iraqis?

a US infanty patrol sent to follow up the bombing and check for intelegence said they found (along with all the guns) advanced communication equipment and syrian passports among the rubblewhen I posted this topic, we didn't know that.

Note my updated story:

Just to remind you, I wasn't the one who really started this thread... remember about 4 months ago, just after Saddam was captured, like 40 people died from bullets raining from the sky from celebratory? Well, someone nominated that for a darwin award, so this is really just a follow up to that :)

Now, seriously, two comments, as so no one gets an even worse idea of my view on this... This could be 2 possibilities...

1) we mistook celebratory fire (stupid ritual) at a wedding for an insurgent stronghold. (that's the story the witnesses on the ground told us)

2) we were right, and it was just another fake wedding ceremony cover-up for an insurgent stronghold.

Of course, there is the 3rd option, which I hope no one is stupid enough to believe, that is that Americans just like to bomb civillians.

wasn't this in afghanistan a couple years ago? or did they do it again?

whoa, turns out that they actually did do it again. maybe it's policy...

Didn't a KKK member a die last year from guns being fired in the air after they learnt the glories of gravity?

Strictly speaking, I think Darwin Awards are for people who kill themselves stupidly. The gun-firing by the wedding-goers is a tradition, not caused by their stupidity.

Strictly speaking, I think Darwin Awards are for people who kill themselves stupidly. The gun-firing by the wedding-goers is a tradition, not caused by their stupidity.Context.

Firing your guns in celebration is traditional, yes.

Firing your guns for ANY reason around a bunch of coalition troops who are looking to shoot anyone that's firing a gun... stupid.

That sounds like a darwin award to me. just like if I were to set off firecrackers at fort knox :P

Anyway, there's a good chance the wedding was just a cover-up, and we were right... but assuming we made a mistake... darwin award :)

Strictly speaking, I think Darwin Awards are for people who kill themselves stupidly. The gun-firing by the wedding-goers is a tradition, not caused by their stupidity.

it is stupidity

It just hit the news a little bit ago... We just received word that US attacked a wedding party (i think with a helicopter,) killing about 40 people. This is a terrible tragedy, one we'll probably hear about for weeks.

But, you know, we probably wouldn't have bombed the place if they didn't celebrate the wedding by firing 20 AK-47s wildly in the air in a warzone...

These guys HAVE to stop that stupid celbratory gun shooting stuff! First they shot up and the bullets come down and kill people, and now they present themselves as a hot military target... smart... really smart.


And believe it or not, the exact same thing happened in afghanistan a year or two ago... don't these people learn?

DO NOT FIRE YOUR GUNS NEAR THE COALITION IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE DEAD.

Sheesh.

Darwin award anyone? :)

NICE! i like it.

OK, a few quick facts.

First, the bombing of the wedding in Afganistan in the past had nothing to do with weapons being discharged into the air. The military claims that it was a stray bomb.

Second, the "Communication equipment" that was found was a satellite phone.

Third, the fireing of weapons into the air in celebration (while not excessivly bright) is a long held tradition, that you would think that our soldiers would be aware of.

Fourth, it was stupid on both sides. But I gotta say, this time, it is an active conflict zone, they should have realized that there was a foriegn military occupying there country and they should act like occupied people and keep thier heads down.

This link would render this whole arguement obsolete

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/19/iraq.main/index.html

Pentagon >>>>> j00!

And the pentagon has never lied to the American people.....(damn I resorted to sarcasm...)

This link would render this whole arguement obsolete

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/19/iraq.main/index.html

Pentagon >>>>> j00!As I figured/hoped. I was merely going off thw Iraqi witness account :P

This link would render this whole arguement obsolete

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/19/iraq.main/index.html

Pentagon >>>>> j00!As I figured/hoped. I was merely going off thw Iraqi witness account :P
Well of course, if you go by what Iraqis say your gonna get something that makes the US look bad!

These guys HAVE to stop that stupid celbratory gun shooting stuff! First they shot up and the bullets come down and kill people, and now they present themselves as a hot military target... smart... really smart.


but if they did that the us would have to invent a new reason to kill iraqis, and since they might be lazy they might not bother
and then they wouldnt kill any iraqis at all
and then the whole thing would just spiral out of control

These guys HAVE to stop that stupid celbratory gun shooting stuff! First they shot up and the bullets come down and kill people, and now they present themselves as a hot military target... smart... really smart.


but if they did that the us would have to invent a new reason to kill iraqis, and since they might be lazy they might not bother
and then they wouldnt kill any iraqis at all
and then the whole thing would just spiral out of control*wacks you with the butt of an AK for thinking that the military is just looking for an excuse to kill people*

Whoa, this thread still going? :o

Maybe we should line up the people who jumped out of the World Trade Centre for Darwin Awards. Imagine that, jumping a thousand feet to escape a fire. :roll:

Seriously, I cannot believe the insensitivity of the people in here. I don't see too many celebrations every time some American soldiers get blown up in Iraq. And yet when that earthquake destroyed an Iranian city, people in here were cheering. Honestly.

Didn't a KKK member a die last year from guns being fired in the air after they learnt the glories of gravity?

if i found that out to be true i would be very happy maby the rest could follow his example

And the pentagon has never lied to the American people.....(damn I resorted to sarcasm...)

sadly there are people that will not actiualy realise that was sarcasm

And the pentagon has never lied to the American people.....(damn I resorted to sarcasm...)

sadly there are people that will not realise that was sarcasm....probably the same ones that have missed so many of bush's little cockups

well i for one will definetly never misunderestimate any one

Whoa, this thread still going? :o

Maybe we should line up the people who jumped out of the World Trade Centre for Darwin Awards. Imagine that, jumping a thousand feet to escape a fire. :roll:

Seriously, I cannot believe the insensitivity of the people in here. I don't see too many celebrations every time some American soldiers get blown up in Iraq. And yet when that earthquake destroyed an Iranian city, people in here were cheering. Honestly.There's a difference here... These guys are a case of Suicide by Coalition.

The people jumping from the WTC had a choice... would you rather burn alive, collapse witht he building, or spend the last 30 seconds of your life in a free fall?

There's a difference here... These guys are a case of Suicide by Coalition.
Suicide-by-cop is always intentional. People lunge at you, seeking death. Quite different from an officer only thinking (s)he is under threat, and shooting someone who was not.

Where is the active choice here, on the part of these civilians? Do you really think it was a suicide pact? No, it clearly was not.

There's a difference here... These guys are a case of Suicide by Coalition.
Suicide-by-cop is always intentional. People lunge at you, seeking death. Quite different from an officer only thinking (s)he is under threat, and shooting someone who was not.

Where is the active choice here, on the part of these civilians? Do you really think it was a suicide pact? No, it clearly was not.Definition of suicide by coalition:

Iraqi Idiots: *20 guys fire their submachine guns into the air* "whooo! look over here!"

Coalition: "Hey, is that gunfire coming from that suspected insurgent stronghold?" "Yup, guess we were right."

*bombs*

Definition of suicide by coalition:

Iraqi Idiots: *20 guys fire their submachine guns into the air* "whooo! look over here!"

Coalition: "Hey, is that gunfire coming from that suspected insurgent stronghold?" "Yup, guess we were right."

*bombs*
Very, very poor taste. You would not see me, in all seriousness, posting such drivel about people's deaths.

Definition of suicide by coalition:

Iraqi Idiots: *20 guys fire their submachine guns into the air* "whooo! look over here!"

Coalition: "Hey, is that gunfire coming from that suspected insurgent stronghold?" "Yup, guess we were right."

*bombs*
Very, very poor taste. You would not see me, in all seriousness, posting such drivel about people's deaths.Sorry, I guess I just get used to this crap...

Don't tell me you don't read the hundreds of stories in the darwin award books and refuse to laugh...

To me, this is just about as funny as the guy who died trying to give himself liposuction...

Sometimes, for example reading about someone who jumped through a window to demonstrate its material strength, I note that there is an amusing element to this, a certain dark poetic quality to it all. Dozens of civilians getting killed in a battlefield cock-up is considerably less amusing.

Sometimes, for example reading about someone who jumped through a window to demonstrate its material strength, I note that there is an amusing element to this, a certain dark poetic quality to it all. Dozens of civilians getting killed in a battlefield cock-up is considerably less amusing.Yeah, but "civillian" being the PC term for "insurgent" which is the PC term for "combatant" which is the PC term for "Enemy" is even funnier :)

Yeah, but "civillian" being the PC term for "insurgent" which is the PC term for "combatant" which is the PC term for "Enemy" is even funnier :)

Funny? What you said was funny? Sounds just like a bad, illogical joke trying to support a bad, tasteless joke.

If you saw 40 people with guns shooting in the air when you're in a helicopter, I think you might blast them too.

Whoa, this thread still going? :o

Maybe we should line up the people who jumped out of the World Trade Centre for Darwin Awards. Imagine that, jumping a thousand feet to escape a fire. :roll:

Seriously, I cannot believe the insensitivity of the people in here. I don't see too many celebrations every time some American soldiers get blown up in Iraq. And yet when that earthquake destroyed an Iranian city, people in here were cheering. Honestly.

I lose my respect for you, Tactical, whenever you post crap like this.

What do you know about being in a burning skyscraper? What do you know about the desperation of seeking a painless death when you know the building your in will collapse hundreds of feet to certain doom with you, tons of steel, and other humans? Do you know the desperation of death?

If you cannot understand the desperation of death, how could you ever seek to understand what it means when your in a helicopter, a prime target for enemy combatants (sp?), and see people shooting guns in the air? Your going to assume their shooting at you, who else would they be shooting at? God?

Your likely response: :roll:

Seems to be a favorite of your no?


EDIT: And who says they weren't fighters? Why don't you quit thinking the Pentagon makes lies all day and believe one little thing?

You misread the point of my post completely. It is precisely crap like that that I am attacking. I was merely offering Raysia an example from his own culture, with which he could draw a parallel. You might have noticed my reference to the celebrations at the earthquake in Iran, and my disgust at that too. The point I am making is, don't laugh at other people's misfortune. You seem to think that that is what I am doing. On the contrary.

http://www.stephaniesworld.com/canadiansgetsbombed.jpg

Those are British planes. 8)

You misread the point of my post completely. It is precisely crap like that that I am attacking. I was merely offering Raysia an example from his own culture, with which he could draw a parallel. You might have noticed my reference to the celebrations at the earthquake in Iran, and my disgust at that too. The point I am making is, don't laugh at other people's misfortune. You seem to think that that is what I am doing. On the contrary.Do you realize how incredibly hard it is to make ANY joke about ANYTHING, without it being at anyone person/group's expense? It is the root of comedy. (Well, that and sex :P)

Humans are stupid, learn to laugh at them!

You misread the point of my post completely. It is precisely crap like that that I am attacking. I was merely offering Raysia an example from his own culture, with which he could draw a parallel. You might have noticed my reference to the celebrations at the earthquake in Iran, and my disgust at that too. The point I am making is, don't laugh at other people's misfortune. You seem to think that that is what I am doing. On the contrary.


Maybe we should line up the people who jumped out of the World Trade Centre for Darwin Awards. Imagine that, jumping a thousand feet to escape a fire. :roll:

Kinda hard to mistake that for an example of culture for talk of stupidity, no?

And I fail to see how a terrorist attack on two skyscrapers are related to people shooting guns in the air (or at the helicopters) and getting killed.


Yes, we cannot laugh at other people's misfortunes. Totally agreeable.

You misread the point of my post completely. It is precisely crap like that that I am attacking. I was merely offering Raysia an example from his own culture, with which he could draw a parallel. You might have noticed my reference to the celebrations at the earthquake in Iran, and my disgust at that too. The point I am making is, don't laugh at other people's misfortune. You seem to think that that is what I am doing. On the contrary.Do you realize how incredibly hard it is to make ANY joke about ANYTHING, without it being at anyone person/group's expense? It is the root of comedy. (Well, that and sex :P)

Humans are stupid, learn to laugh at them!

Sorry, Bubba, but I gotta agree with TG on this one. There is nothing funny about a group of people getting a bomb as a wedding gift from the U.S. (You remember them ,the good guys ?).
Your sense of humor is as twisted as your politics.
I doubt Jesus would think this was funny...

Don't get me wrong, people dying is never cool, or funny.... but the situations that lead up to their death can be funny, or even joyous.

I wonder how many people will mourn OBL or Saddam or Zarkowie (sp) when they are executed.

Everyone knows these guys laugh and cheer when we are murdered on TV...

What the heck? Trying not to swear! Omg. You laugh during executions? Jeez, when Timothy McVeigh was executed i wasn't laughing. That's seriously twisted. No matter who it is, or what the situation is, death isn't funny! Was it funny when those two ladies strangled that teen during a "rebirth" cerimony? No! That's really messed up raysia. Seriously.

Don't get me wrong, people dying is never cool, or funny.... but the situations that lead up to their death can be funny, or even joyous.

I wonder how many people will mourn OBL or Saddam or Zarkowie (sp) when they are executed.

Everyone knows these guys laugh and cheer when we are murdered on TV...

Well, we sure as hell were happy when we heard that the Hussein brothers were killed. No one mentioned their death without going, "which was a very great thing, their death..."

What the heck? Trying not to swear! Omg. You laugh during executions? Jeez, when Timothy McVeigh was executed i wasn't laughing. That's seriously twisted. No matter who it is, or what the situation is, death isn't funny! Was it funny when those two ladies strangled that teen during a "rebirth" cerimony? No! That's really messed up raysia. Seriously.I didn't laugh at executions... but I felt glad that people like Timothy McVeigh cease to exist... that's the whole POINT of the death penalty, to give comfort and justice.

Don't get me wrong, people dying is never cool, or funny.... but the situations that lead up to their death can be funny, or even joyous.

I wonder how many people will mourn OBL or Saddam or Zarkowie (sp) when they are executed.

Everyone knows these guys laugh and cheer when we are murdered on TV...

In answer to your ridiculous assumption I offer you a poem by John Dunne

'No Man is an Island'
No man is an island entire of itself; every man
is a piece of the continent, a part of the main;
if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe
is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as
well as any manner of thy friends or of thine
own were; any man's death diminishes me,
because I am involved in mankind.
And therefore never send to know for whom
the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.

Don't get me wrong, people dying is never cool, or funny.... but the situations that lead up to their death can be funny, or even joyous.

I wonder how many people will mourn OBL or Saddam or Zarkowie (sp) when they are executed.

Everyone knows these guys laugh and cheer when we are murdered on TV...

Well, we sure as hell were happy when we heard that the Hussein brothers were killed. No one mentioned their death without going, "which was a very great thing, their death..."however, they always love to throw in the word "but,"

Yeah, Saddam's capture is cool, but,...
Yeah, Uday and Qusay (sp) are dead, that's good, but,...
Yeah, Nick Berg's death was horrible, but,...
Yeah, there are a lot of good men in the military, but,...
Yeah, the PDB wasn't actionable, but,...
Yeah, the economy is coming back, but,...
Yeah, the jobless rate is dropping, but,...
Yeah, it was just an isolated incident, but,...

I'm sick of it.

Or, put simply, shame on you Raysia, shame on you for making light of the suffering of others. :(

Raysia, without the word "but", you would have either fascism or communism. Get a grip. The ability of people to add shades of meaning or qualifiers to statements is the linguistic and cognitive building block without which freedom of speech is impossible.

Raysia, without the word "but", you would have either fascism or communism. Get a grip. The ability of people to add shades of meaning or qualifiers to statements is the linguistic and cognitive building block without which freedom of speech is impossible.At the expense of american lives? It just isn't necessary.

Support our troops.

Fight to bring them home if you want, but don't add to the Al Qaeda/Al jazeera propoganda machine.

Or, put simply, shame on you Raysia, shame on you for making light of the suffering of others. :(shame on you for helping convince our soldiers that their homeland hates them.

The word but never killed an American Soldier. It is one of the freedoms they are sworn to protect.

Your point is weak.

Raysia, do I hear you right? You are willing to trade your freedom of speech in the interests of the military?

:?

No offence, but what kind of American are you? I was under the impression that that is what the country was supposed to be set up against.

Or, put simply, shame on you Raysia, shame on you for making light of the suffering of others. :(shame on you for helping convince our soldiers that their homeland hates them.

That makes no sense. No one is saying shame on the solidiers, we are saying shame on YOU for making light of the deaths of others. Don't hide behind the flag, or our soldiers. Ever.

Or, put simply, shame on you Raysia, shame on you for making light of the suffering of others. :(
shame on you for helping convince our soldiers that their homeland hates them.
Pfft, how many believe that? I don't see any speaking even on FOX saying "OMG NOES everyone hates me!"

Raysia, do I hear you right? You are willing to trade your freedom of speech in the interests of the military?You're talking to a guy who supports the patriot act. Of course I'm willing to temporarily suspend the rights of defeatists and terrorists and despots so that we can guarantee others our same God-given rights.

wasn't this in afghanistan a couple years ago? or did they do it again?

It happens fairly often, or so it seems.

Raysia, do I hear you right? You are willing to trade your freedom of speech in the interests of the military?
You're talking to a guy who supports the patriot act. Of course I'm willing to temporarily suspend the rights of defeatists and terrorists and depots so that we can guarantee others our same God-given rights.
Those are your inalienable rights too, yes?

Raysia, do I hear you right? You are willing to trade your freedom of speech in the interests of the military?You're talking to a guy who supports the patriot act. Of course I'm willing to temporarily suspend the rights of defeatists and terrorists and depots so that we can guarantee others our same God-given rights.

Ok, ok, ok...You are just trolling now. No one believes that crap.

The word but never killed an American Soldier. It is one of the freedoms they are sworn to protect.

Your point is weak.By proving terrorism works, by giving into their demands, by weaking our will and resolve, we lose lives.

http://www.stephaniesworld.com/canadiansgetsbombed.jpg

Those are British planes. 8)

Lies, I tell you, LIES! They can't be. The Canadians would have reported it forthwith and the BBC and the Canadian media would have published it all!

SHL

Raysia, do I hear you right? You are willing to trade your freedom of speech in the interests of the military?You're talking to a guy who supports the patriot act. Of course I'm willing to temporarily suspend the rights of defeatists and terrorists and depots so that we can guarantee others our same God-given rights.

Ok, ok, ok...You are just trolling now. No one believes that crap.You mean no protestors or liberals believe that crap.

MANY believe that crap.

The word but never killed an American Soldier. It is one of the freedoms they are sworn to protect.

Your point is weak.
By proving terrorism works, by giving into their demands, by weaking our will and resolve, we lose lives.
Now you appear to be arguing against the people's right to express opinions.

The word but never killed an American Soldier. It is one of the freedoms they are sworn to protect.

Your point is weak.By proving terrorism works, by giving into their demands, by weaking our will and resolve, we lose lives.

What in the hell are you talking about ??? You are not even addressing the issues anymore you are just spouting meaningless propoganda.

Ok, ok, ok...You are just trolling now. No one believes that crap.You mean no protestors or liberals believe that crap.

MANY believe that crap.[/quote]

I am niether, and I don't believe it.
No lie ,dude. I think you really are just trolling.

Ok, ok, ok...You are just trolling now. No one believes that crap.You mean no protestors or liberals believe that crap.

MANY believe that crap.

I am niether, and I don't believe it.
No lie ,dude. I think you really are just trolling.*sigh* allright, I'll leave the topic and cool off for a bit.

I think you really are just trolling.
To be fair, I have in the past locked threads for trolling, which posted or pointed to some September 11 content and basically went LMAO! I have treated this one with relative leniency.

http://www.stephaniesworld.com/canadiansgetsbombed.jpg

yeah, its too bad canada doesnt have a military to defend itself with... unless they were counting on the protection of a country nearby...

:roll:

I think you really are just trolling.
To be fair, I have in the past locked threads for trolling, which posted or pointed to some September 11 content and basically went LMAO! I have treated this one with relative leniency.

Your a good Mod, and it is your call. I would not suggest closing the tread, but I really do think that Raysia lost track of the discussion and was just trolling for conflict.

http://www.stephaniesworld.com/canadiansgetsbombed.jpg

Those are British planes. 8)

ROFLMAO :lol:

I think you really are just trolling.
To be fair, I have in the past locked threads for trolling, which posted or pointed to some September 11 content and basically went LMAO! I have treated this one with relative leniency.

Your a good Mod, and it is your call. I would not suggest closing the tread, but I really do think that Raysia lost track of the discussion and was just trolling for conflict.nah, I just have trouble explaining myself sometimes :)

*sigh*

All the reason for me to start my own blog, where I can rant uncensored :P

*working on it*

I will leave it open. Everyone go outside, get some fresh air and have a glass of water. :)

Tactical Grace
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The American government think they're the best 8) but they are the meanest :evil:

The American government think they're the best 8) but they are the meanest :evil:See, now people like this are the reason I react the way I do :)

THIS guy is a troll :P

The American government think they're the best 8) but they are the meanest :evil:

wow, a troll :roll:

The American government think they're the best 8) but they are the meanest :evil:

but you never said they weren't the best did you? 8) you never heard them NOT say they weren't the meanest!

mean != best, unless one refers to capacity for violence. :?

mean != best, unless one refers to capacity for violence. :?

choo talkin bout?

The American government think they're the best 8) but they are the meanest :evil:

Wrongo :

Since World War II the United States has provided more than $1 trillion (in current dollars) in bilateral economic assistance to other nations.

Washington has been spending about $18 billion a year

after the collapse of Mexico's peso in December, the administration offered to extend an extra $3 billion credit, on top of the previously promised $6 billion, to help buttress President Ernesto Zedillo's government.As Mexico's problems expanded, the administration proposed an additional $40 billion in loan guarantees

The Bush (this would be Bush I) administration forgave nearly $7 billion in Egyptian debt to reward Cairo's participation in the Persian Gulf war; Washington formally wrote off roughly $2.7 billion in Polish debt to assist that nation's move to democracy

In September 1994 the president made a "firm commitment" to Irish deputy prime minister Dick Spring to increase U.S. assistance from current outlays of $20 million annually.(5) A month later Clinton promised South African president Nelson Mandela an extra $100 million.

In November President Clinton pledged an extra $100 million for Ukraine, to reward its economic reforms and promise to adhere to the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, which will make Kiev the fourth largest recipient of American aid. Three months later a congressional subcommittee voted to forgive $50 million in Jordanian debt, on top of the $99 million written off this year, to reward Amman for participating in the Mideast peace process.

And the list goes on.....

What an amazing thread.
How ingenious to blame the victims of a massacre for its occurence.
What a shame Raysia wasn't around when Custer was attacking Indian villages.

What an amazing thread.
How ingenious to blame the victims of a massacre for its occurence.
What a shame Raysia wasn't around when Custer was attacking Indian villages.keep things in perspective... these guys are notorious for using mosques and weddings as cover-ups/human shields for hideouts.

I'm just going off the Iraqi story for this darwin award stuff... firing your guns in the air, near coalition troops... just plain stupid.

What an amazing thread.
How ingenious to blame the victims of a massacre for its occurence.
What a shame Raysia wasn't around when Custer was attacking Indian villages.keep things in perspective... these guys are notorious for using mosques and weddings as cover-ups/human shields for hideouts.

I'm just going off the Iraqi story for this darwin award stuff... firing your guns in the air, near coalition troops... just plain stupid.

Compared to opening fire on a target without properly identifying it? I suppose that's really clever.

The simple "perspective" is that yet more innocents are dead.

Treating any human death as a jocular matter is something I find offensive.

keep things in perspective... these guys are notorious for using mosques and weddings as cover-ups/human shields for hideouts.

'These guys'?!? Iraqis? Or are you now claiming all the wedding guests were 'terrorists'?

I am surprised that no-one has yet spotted the fundemental flaw in the originating post.

The reason for the Darwin Award is for shooting weapons in a war zone.

A war zone?

But 'major combat operarations' have ceased.

Or maybe George forgot to tell us that the war is back on.

keep things in perspective... these guys are notorious for using mosques and weddings as cover-ups/human shields for hideouts.

'These guys'?!? Iraqis? Or are you now claiming all the wedding guests were 'terrorists'?yes, if you've followed "these guys," the terrorists, the insurgents, the enemy, they often use civillians or mosques or weddings as human shields, so that they can do whatever they want, and when the US bombs them, the US gets blamed for killing civillians.

These guys are pure evil, and they will do anything to win.

They know we are fighting a PC war, and that every time we have to bomb a mosque, a holy city, or a wedding, it'sa horrible atrocity/mistake/problem/murder.

*sigh*

They know we are fighting a PC war, and that every time we have to bomb a mosque, a holy city, or a wedding, it's a horrible atrocity/mistake/problem/murder.

*sigh*

*Backs away from the psycho*

I hope you are trolling Raysia.

[yes, if you've followed "these guys," the terrorists, the insurgents, the enemy, they often use civillians or mosques or weddings as human shields, so that they can do whatever they want, and when the US bombs them, the US gets blamed for killing civillians.

These guys are pure evil, and they will do anything to win.

They know we are fighting a PC war, and that every time we have to bomb a mosque, a holy city, or a wedding, it'sa horrible atrocity/mistake/problem/murder.

*sigh*
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I have just read this thread through with growing disgust at your attitude to the killing of people.
Now you say the 'enemy' use civilians or mosques or weddings as cover for their evil ways. So, you're content that what they do is evil are you?
Yet you bewail the fact that Americans that bomb these people and sites, knowing of these innocent people leads to protest. That's having it both ways, though it does follow your usual pattern of 'logic'.

You say these people are 'pure evil', they will do anything to win'.
Really, anything?
What, a bit like a $75 million helicopter with a 'sophisticated surveilence system and a highly trained pilot, firing into a crowd of hundreds of innocent people because there may be a handful of nasties hiding amongst them? That kind of evil you mean?

And in your last sentence (having said these 'people' will do anything to kill'), you say that bombing mosques, holy cities and weddings is 'horrible' with heavy sarcasm.

May I suggest you consult a specialist in psychosis?

Guys guys guys, you're all mixing stories.

The point is, this has been in debate for quite some time... if your enemies are using civillians as shields, and are shooting at you, you can shoot back. The geneva convention supports that.

We suspected this building of being an enemy base.

When fire started coming from it, our suspiscions were confirmed, for as far as any of us could care at the time.

We bombed them, killed about 40 of them.

When we went back to investigate, "witnesses" claimed it was nothing more than a wedding party... yes,m a wedding party, like the other times we've bombed these guys... a wedding party at 3 am... in the middle of nowhere...

We went in and found stores of weapons and ammo, and a couple million dollars in cash.

If there were really civillians at this alleged wedding party, they were hostages. And in case you were unaware, we have a policy, derived from experience, that if terrorists have hostages, kill them anyway, becuase either we kill them and the hostages, or they kill us... and the hostages.

Guys guys guys, you're all mixing stories.

The point is, this has been in debate for quite some time... if your enemies are using civillians as shields, and are shooting at you, you can shoot back. The geneva convention supports that.

We suspected this building of being an enemy base.

When fire started coming from it, our suspiscions were confirmed, for as far as any of us could care at the time.

We bombed them, killed about 40 of them.

When we went back to investigate, "witnesses" claimed it was nothing more than a wedding party... yes,m a wedding party, like the other times we've bombed these guys... a wedding party at 3 am... in the middle of nowhere...

We went in and found stores of weapons and ammo, and a couple million dollars in cash.

If there were really civillians at this alleged wedding party, they were hostages. And in case you were unaware, we have a policy, derived from experience, that if terrorists have hostages, kill them anyway, becuase either we kill them and the hostages, or they kill us... and the hostages.

Your "logic" determining who is a legitimate target smells suspiciously like the very same logic used by the terrorists that you condemn (rightfully).

Guys guys guys, you're all mixing stories.

The point is, this has been in debate for quite some time... if your enemies are using civillians as shields, and are shooting at you, you can shoot back. The geneva convention supports that.

We suspected this building of being an enemy base.

When fire started coming from it, our suspiscions were confirmed, for as far as any of us could care at the time.

We bombed them, killed about 40 of them.

When we went back to investigate, "witnesses" claimed it was nothing more than a wedding party... yes,m a wedding party, like the other times we've bombed these guys... a wedding party at 3 am... in the middle of nowhere...

We went in and found stores of weapons and ammo, and a couple million dollars in cash.

If there were really civillians at this alleged wedding party, they were hostages. And in case you were unaware, we have a policy, derived from experience, that if terrorists have hostages, kill them anyway, becuase either we kill them and the hostages, or they kill us... and the hostages.

Your "logic" determining who is a legitimate target smells suspiciously like the very same logic used by the terrorists that you condemn (rightfully).There was intel, that we don't know about (yet), leading up to targetting it. keep in mind, the fire in early morning was taken as a confirmation of their intelligence.

"No, we aren't an enemy base... we're having a wedding party!" *Ak-47s fire all over the place*

"...right..."

Back to my original point, these guys need to find a better way to celebrate :)

Guys guys guys, you're all mixing stories.

The point is, this has been in debate for quite some time... if your enemies are using civillians as shields, and are shooting at you, you can shoot back. The geneva convention supports that.

We suspected this building of being an enemy base.

When fire started coming from it, our suspiscions were confirmed, for as far as any of us could care at the time.

We bombed them, killed about 40 of them.

When we went back to investigate, "witnesses" claimed it was nothing more than a wedding party... yes,m a wedding party, like the other times we've bombed these guys... a wedding party at 3 am... in the middle of nowhere...

We went in and found stores of weapons and ammo, and a couple million dollars in cash.

If there were really civillians at this alleged wedding party, they were hostages. And in case you were unaware, we have a policy, derived from experience, that if terrorists have hostages, kill them anyway, becuase either we kill them and the hostages, or they kill us... and the hostages.

Your "logic" determining who is a legitimate target smells suspiciously like the very same logic used by the terrorists that you condemn (rightfully).There was intel, that we don't know about (yet), leading up to targetting it. keep in mind, the fire in early morning was taken as a confirmation of their intelligence.

"No, we aren't an enemy base... we're having a wedding party!" *Ak-47s fire all over the place*

"...right..."

Back to my original point, these guys need to find a better way to celebrate :)

They have little enough to celebrate these days.
And, I would have thought that perhaps the US forces need a better way to select legitimate targets.
The US claims of what occured conflict with the Iraqi authorities.
I would treat both with some suspicion at the moment.

I would treat both with some suspicion at the moment.

And if you do not mind me adding, they should also be taken with no humor.

Up till now Ryasia I merley disagreed with you, but this is some sick and twisted 'logic' your coming out with now.

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The celebrators of killing here, answer me this. What happened to all the so-called 'smart' weapons? You know, those ones that 'limit colateral damage' (kill less civilians)?
I know one thing, these 'smart' weapons are killing a lot more innocents than the rifles and AK's you mention in your sneering remarks about Iraqis.
Why don't people be a bit more honest? I'll say flat out: I wouldn't trust this Bush mob with my shopping, let alone the illegal invasion of a foreign country. I also do not believe the US forces take enough care regarding civilians. I believe they began to, shortly after the 'end' of the war (that's the only amusing aspect of this....some end) but I have not the slightest shred of doubt from all I've read, watched and heard, that many US soldiers have reverted to 'shoot first, ask questions later'. I don't even necesarrily blame most of them, they're the poor bastards taking the shite for the over-paid, well-fed, well-pensioned, filthy politicians that sent them there.
There, that's me.
How's about some more honesty and less prevarication with 'theories' and lousy statistics. If you don't like the Iraqis and have no feeling for them, say so. Have a bit of the guts that Iraqi and coalition soldiers show every day.

Up till now Ryasia I merley disagreed with you, but this is some sick and twisted 'logic' your coming out with now.? what? where? All I'm doing is stating what seems to be the obvious.

If I am missing something major here, tell me!

But right now, all I can see is either they were insurgents with a wedding cover-up, or a wedding with some idiots firing AKs in the air.

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The celebrators of killing here, answer me this. What happened to all the so-called 'smart' weapons? You know, those ones that 'limit colateral damage' (kill less civilians)?
I know one thing, these 'smart' weapons are killing a lot more innocents than the rifles and AK's you mention in your sneering remarks about Iraqis.
Why don't people be a bit more honest? I'll say flat out: I wouldn't trust this Bush mob with my shopping, let alone the illegal invasion of a foreign country. I also do not believe the US forces take enough care regarding civilians. I believe they began to, shortly after the 'end' of the war (that's the only amusing aspect of this....some end) but I have not the slightest shred of doubt from all I've read, watched and heard, that many US soldiers have reverted to 'shoot first, ask questions later'. I don't even necesarrily blame most of them, they're the poor bastards taking the shite for the over-paid, well-fed, well-pensioned, filthy politicians that sent them there.
There, that's me.
How's about some more honesty and less prevarication with 'theories' and lousy statistics. If you don't like the Iraqis and have no feeling for them, say so. Have a bit of the guts that Iraqi and coalition soldiers show every day.For crap's sake, I'm no racist.

But I have no problem admitting I absolutely hate, and am completely intolerant of, radical islam.

No smart weapon we have can effectively take out a terrorist/insurgent target without civillian casualties... why? Because these guys LOVE to throw civillians in front of our bombs, just to film it on Al Jazeera, and broadcast it to you, so that you can tell us all what bad evil men the US military has, and convince us that we need to give into terrorism and back out of Iraq.

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But right now, all I can see is either they were insurgents with a wedding cover-up, or a wedding with some idiots firing AKs in the air.

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Interesting. People of a very different culture to ours, firing off rounds of ammunition into the sky, with no intent on harming anyone, are 'idiots'.

Thoroughly trained army pilots, flying $75 million aircraft, lobbing bombs at this party are heros.

Yes, you're missing something alright, a heart and two thirds of a brain.
Good luck in hell pal.........and it comes sooner than you think.

Darwin award anyone? :)

*beats Raysia to death with his own inflated sense of self importance*

*lays Darwin award on the corpse*

Happy?

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The celebrators of killing here, answer me this. What happened to all the so-called 'smart' weapons? You know, those ones that 'limit colateral damage' (kill less civilians)?
I know one thing, these 'smart' weapons are killing a lot more innocents than the rifles and AK's you mention in your sneering remarks about Iraqis.
Why don't people be a bit more honest? I'll say flat out: I wouldn't trust this Bush mob with my shopping, let alone the illegal invasion of a foreign country. I also do not believe the US forces take enough care regarding civilians. I believe they began to, shortly after the 'end' of the war (that's the only amusing aspect of this....some end) but I have not the slightest shred of doubt from all I've read, watched and heard, that many US soldiers have reverted to 'shoot first, ask questions later'. I don't even necesarrily blame most of them, they're the poor bastards taking the shite for the over-paid, well-fed, well-pensioned, filthy politicians that sent them there.
There, that's me.
How's about some more honesty and less prevarication with 'theories' and lousy statistics. If you don't like the Iraqis and have no feeling for them, say so. Have a bit of the guts that Iraqi and coalition soldiers show every day.For crap's sake, I'm no racist.

But I have no problem admitting I absolutely hate, and am completely intolerant of, radical islam.

No smart weapon we have can effectively take out a terrorist/insurgent target without civillian casualties... why? Because these guys LOVE to throw civillians in front of our bombs, just to film it on Al Jazeera, and broadcast it to you, so that you can tell us all what bad evil men the US military has, and convince us that we need to give into terrorism and back out of Iraq.

Of course, the other explanation of the events could well be that the US got it wrong, and opened fire on civilians for no real good reason.

That is always helped along if "absolutely hate, and am completely intolerant of" your enemy, and regard him as less than human.

Blaming civilian casualities on the victims and then attempting to make it an occassion for humour is sick. It certainly, IMHO, reflects little worth on your so-called Christian beliefs. The hypocricy is astounding.

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But right now, all I can see is either they were insurgents with a wedding cover-up, or a wedding with some idiots firing AKs in the air.

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Interesting. People of a very different culture to ours, firing off rounds of ammunition into the sky, with no intent on harming anyone, are 'idiots'.

Thoroughly trained army pilots, flying $75 million aircraft, lobbing bombs at this party are heros.

Yes, you're missing something alright, a heart and two thirds of a brain.
Good luck in hell pal.........and it comes sooner than you think.*sigh*

way to twist my words, as always.

All I'm saying is, it's a stupid tradition, and it can get them killed, one way or another.

Firing your rounds off near a bunch of coalition troops, who arescared to death, looking for people firing at them.

You simply DO NOT fire off your weapons randomly when you're under occupation.... doing that can EASILY be considered/confused for an act of aggression.

ok, this discussion has become rediculous. Thanks for screwing it up with your nonsense, SO.

ok, this discussion has become rediculous. Thanks for screwing it up with your nonsense, SO.

You are losing touch with any sense of morality Raysia.

Christianity is supposed to be about love, not hate.

so that you can tell us all what bad evil men the US military has, and convince us that we need to give into terrorism and back out of Iraq.
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Many, many problems with your deviant logic. But to point out just one.
Before the lunatic Bush invaded Iraq, there were, at most, a handful of 'terrorists' there.
The place is now a breeding ground for them. Every day there's some cock-up and a dozen more Iraqis are driven mad with rage and grief and turn to the only weapon they have...terror.
Thank you Mister Bush.
Thank you Mister Blair.
Thank you for your brave and noble sacrificing of American and British lives. For the murder of thousands of Iraqi lives. For the humiliation and torture of human beings. For invading a country, illegally, and making us all less safe than we were before. For convincing idiots that this madness in Iraq is part of a war on terror. For all the horror still to come.

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You simply DO NOT fire off your weapons randomly when you're under occupation.... doing that can EASILY be considered/confused for an act of aggression.
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Remind me will you, who invaded who illegally?
Who are the occupiers?
Who are the occupied?
Hundreds of thousands of American and British soldiers, some of the best trained and equipped in the world, and the Iraqis are the aggressors?
Where do you get your information, Wacko Weekly?

ok, this discussion has become rediculous. Thanks for screwing it up with your nonsense, SO.
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Isn't this thread 'amusingly' called The Darwin Award or similar?
And you accuse me ruining a discussion with nonsense?

I think in a case like this it is best to not jump to conclusions about what has happened and wait until things are sorted out first. One side is claiming pure innocence at having been at a wedding party and the other side is claiming pure innocence that they were defending themselves and that it was a legitimate target. Perhaps before we unleash our own biases on the parties involved we should instead wait to hear the full story?

I think in a case like this it is best to not jump to conclusions about what has happened and wait until things are sorted out first. One side is claiming pure innocence at having been at a wedding party and the other side is claiming pure innocence that they were defending themselves and that it was a legitimate target. Perhaps before we unleash our own biases on the parties involved we should instead wait to hear the full story?

Agree.
It certainly is not a time to try to find some sick and twisted humour in death.

I think in a case like this it is best to not jump to conclusions about what has happened and wait until things are sorted out first. One side is claiming pure innocence at having been at a wedding party and the other side is claiming pure innocence that they were defending themselves and that it was a legitimate target. Perhaps before we unleash our own biases on the parties involved we should instead wait to hear the full story?
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Well guess what? I completely agree with that. But would you re-post your thoughts so that immature fools desist in making fun of the carnage?

Hrmm, ok....how about this then:

Dead people is bad

Shooting weapons is bad (unless intended to hit bride or groom)

No pokey fun at dead people

Better?

ok, this discussion has become rediculous. Thanks for screwing it up with your nonsense, SO.
I must say that every new bit of fuel thrown into this debate has come from you, Raysia. Your fundamental assertion is flawed here - OMG black people with guns, misunderstanding, haha, they're dead! No, not funny. You keep trying to make it amusing, but it's not.

Oh come on, don't you guys understand this was a two case story? I nominate these guys for the award if, and only if, the story thei Iraqis tell is true, and they were simply having a partyy and firing guns in the air.

If it happened like I believe it happened, and the wedding was a human shield, then it is just a total tragedy, and by no means worthy of any award.

Where do you guys twist my worsds into some sort of monster-like hate speech?

When I say I hate radical islam, I hate the idea, not the people. Radical Islam is pure evil in this world, and they stand for nothing that is good.

I feel very sorry for the people Radical Islam has brainswashed into their cause. But when they start shooting, I won't hesitate to shoot back.

Seriously guys, read the darwin awards stuff and tell me it isn't funny.

We're not laughing at people dying, merely the circumstances that lead up to their death.

http://www.darwinawards.com/

If you truely believe that the stuff on that site is not the slightest bit funny, then I will apologize and drop this subject.

The US has a new blanket response for all bad news: "It didn't happen".
(To be followed later by "You're evil to criticize us" and "This is war you know" and "THey are at least as bad as we are")

It reminds me of a story:

A major and a corporal were sitting together in a restaurant over drinks when an unusually hideous woman began walking down the staircase from an upper balcony.
The corporal said "Gawd, that's got to be the uglies woman I've ever seen".
Redding, the major excalimed: "That's my wife!"
Hastily, the corporal replied: "Oh, not the older one [thinking fast now], I meant the younger one coming down behind her".
Now turning purple, the major hissed: "THAT'S MY DAUGHTER!!"
Looking him in the eye, the corporal said smoothly: "It never happened."

We're not laughing at people dying, merely the circumstances that lead up to their death.
In this case, the circumstances are not at all amusing. :|

No, we'll blame Clinton


We've blamed him for being a pervert

Why not add another to the list?

Oh, good gracious. Are you honestly going to argue that it's someone else's fault that Clinton was a pervert?

Seriously guys, read the darwin awards stuff and tell me it isn't funny.

We're not laughing at people dying, merely the circumstances that lead up to their death.

http://www.darwinawards.com/

If you truely believe that the stuff on that site is not the slightest bit funny, then I will apologize and drop this subject.
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Got a sister? Tell you what, we'll play a 'fun' game shall we?
Your sister's getting married, you happen to be also the best man, standing at the alter you realise you've forgotten the ring, you run out of the church to your car, where the ring is, you run across the road into the path of an oncoming lorry, you jump out of the way, the lorry driver swerves to avoid you, he crashes into the church killing 3 people, including your sister.
Funny?
Then a couple of months later you stumble across the story on a web-site which gives you a Darwin Award.
Still roaring with laughter?
Got a stitch from all your hysterical giggling?
Personally, my sides ache from such good fun.

Seriously guys, read the darwin awards stuff and tell me it isn't funny.

We're not laughing at people dying, merely the circumstances that lead up to their death.

http://www.darwinawards.com/

If you truely believe that the stuff on that site is not the slightest bit funny, then I will apologize and drop this subject.

Is there some sort of Mormon tradition in finding amusement in the death or misfortune of others?

Most Christian religions that I am familiar with would take quite a different viewpoint.