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Now before i start this i just have to say i have a lot of black friends and their are mayn african americans who do not fit this stereotype that i am about to use. if u r offended by somewhat rascist comments do not keep reading. I apologize in advance. -Sincerly Vampires of Death

Recently i was having a conversation with a African American ascosiete of mine and he said the most frustrating thing to me. (which is rascist in itself but blacks cant be rascist) the conversation flowed somthing like this: it was my fault, as a white person, that he was suffering in america. He said my people brought us over to america where they had to suffer hundreds of years of slavery and opression and that whites were still opressing the black by not letting the majority of them into good school and such. (he also pointed out that the black CEO's and black success stories were just out there so the blacks couldnt call all whites rascists). He also remarked that so many blacks lived in 'ghetto's' because whites were taking all the good living spaces. ( a bit of background before i continue: he is about 5 or 6th generation that was born in america and still lives in a horrible neighborhood)

Now im saying to everyone that is reading this that this is bull****. I am second generation immgrant (meaning i was borne over in Russia but lived most of my life here) and when me and my parents moved here they had no language no friends to help us out and 100$ to help us live during the small recesion we had in 92. today me and my parents live in a 6 bedroom house with 2 expensive cars. So everything he said about that he was from africa prevented him to get far in life since he wsa a 'foriegner'. Now he also pointed out how unfair it was that a graduate of that school ( year ahead of him and also white such as me) attended stanford University (for those of u unware or in another country stanford is in the top 5 best colledges in the country). My black asscoicate said it was completely unfair that the whit guy got into stanford and he would proboyl not. This i also find interesting because while the white guy attended all of his classes worked his ass of as well as have a job to help his family survive while the black guy ditches his calsses and fails them and party all night.

As to the remark that becuase he's black he is opressed that is bull i have seen so many black people get far in life by working hard and i am apauled at that comemnt. He also said we forced him to come to America and live this 'opressed' life style. Well actually when slavery was revoked the US governement actually helped pay for slaves that wanted to go back to Africa so if he was so bad why doesnt he and his family move back to AFrica and live off the land instead of living off of our taxes.
(i apologize for the last remark i am not a rascist)

So in conclusion i am sick of African American's bull**** pissing me off
---Vampires of Death---

Now before i start this i just have to say i have a lot of black friends and their are mayn african americans who do not fit this stereotype that i am about to use. if u r offended by somewhat rascist comments do not keep reading. I apologize in advance. -Sincerly Vampires of Death

Recently i was having a conversation with a African American ascosiete of mine and he said the most frustrating thing to me. (which is rascist in itself but blacks cant be rascist) the conversation flowed somthing like this: it was my fault, as a white person, that he was suffering in america. He said my people brought us over to america where they had to suffer hundreds of years of slavery and opression and that whites were still opressing the black by not letting the majority of them into good school and such. (he also pointed out that the black CEO's and black success stories were just out there so the blacks couldnt call all whites rascists). He also remarked that so many blacks lived in 'ghetto's' because whites were taking all the good living spaces. ( a bit of background before i continue: he is about 5 or 6th generation that was born in america and still lives in a horrible neighborhood)

Now im saying to everyone that is reading this that this is bull****. I am second generation immgrant (meaning i was borne over in Russia but lived most of my life here) and when me and my parents moved here they had no language no friends to help us out and 100$ to help us live during the small recesion we had in 92. today me and my parents live in a 6 bedroom house with 2 expensive cars. So everything he said about that he was from africa prevented him to get far in life since he wsa a 'foriegner'. Now he also pointed out how unfair it was that a graduate of that school ( year ahead of him and also white such as me) attended stanford University (for those of u unware or in another country stanford is in the top 5 best colledges in the country). My black asscoicate said it was completely unfair that the whit guy got into stanford and he would proboyl not. This i also find interesting because while the white guy attended all of his classes worked his ass of as well as have a job to help his family survive while the black guy ditches his calsses and fails them and party all night.

As to the remark that becuase he's black he is opressed that is bull i have seen so many black people get far in life by working hard and i am apauled at that comemnt. He also said we forced him to come to America and live this 'opressed' life style. Well actually when slavery was revoked the US governement actually helped pay for slaves that wanted to go back to Africa so if he was so bad why doesnt he and his family move back to AFrica and live off the land instead of living off of our taxes.
(i apologize for the last remark i am not a rascist)

So in conclusion i am sick of African American's bull**** pissing me off
---Vampires of Death---

an "ascosiete" of yours? you can't spell worth sh*t. what do you do for a living, clean toilets?

Ah, the utterance of those immortal words . . .

I'm not a racist, but . . .

I was going to post something of educational merit but C-Bass's post makes this thread undiserving of such.

I don't even know where to start... So I'm not going to.

why doesnt he and his family move back to AFrica and live off the land instead of living off of our taxes.
(i apologize for the last remark i am not a rascist)


you keep saying that but you obviously are.

while we're at it, why don't we all move back to south america, europe, asia, and australia and give the native americans their land back?

Why to you call 'im your aquantience [sic]?

Now before i start this i just have to say i have a lot of black friends and their are mayn african americans who do not fit this stereotype that i am about to use. if u r offended by somewhat rascist comments do not keep reading. I apologize in advance. -Sincerly Vampires of Death

Recently i was having a conversation with a African American ascosiete of mine and he said the most frustrating thing to me. (which is rascist in itself but blacks cant be rascist) the conversation flowed somthing like this: it was my fault, as a white person, that he was suffering in america. He said my people brought us over to america where they had to suffer hundreds of years of slavery and opression and that whites were still opressing the black by not letting the majority of them into good school and such. (he also pointed out that the black CEO's and black success stories were just out there so the blacks couldnt call all whites rascists). He also remarked that so many blacks lived in 'ghetto's' because whites were taking all the good living spaces. ( a bit of background before i continue: he is about 5 or 6th generation that was born in america and still lives in a horrible neighborhood)

Now im saying to everyone that is reading this that this is bull****. I am second generation immgrant (meaning i was borne over in Russia but lived most of my life here) and when me and my parents moved here they had no language no friends to help us out and 100$ to help us live during the small recesion we had in 92. today me and my parents live in a 6 bedroom house with 2 expensive cars. So everything he said about that he was from africa prevented him to get far in life since he wsa a 'foriegner'. Now he also pointed out how unfair it was that a graduate of that school ( year ahead of him and also white such as me) attended stanford University (for those of u unware or in another country stanford is in the top 5 best colledges in the country). My black asscoicate said it was completely unfair that the whit guy got into stanford and he would proboyl not. This i also find interesting because while the white guy attended all of his classes worked his ass of as well as have a job to help his family survive while the black guy ditches his calsses and fails them and party all night.

As to the remark that becuase he's black he is opressed that is bull i have seen so many black people get far in life by working hard and i am apauled at that comemnt. He also said we forced him to come to America and live this 'opressed' life style. Well actually when slavery was revoked the US governement actually helped pay for slaves that wanted to go back to Africa so if he was so bad why doesnt he and his family move back to AFrica and live off the land instead of living off of our taxes.
(i apologize for the last remark i am not a rascist)

So in conclusion i am sick of African American's bull**** pissing me off
---Vampires of Death---
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"i am not a rascist)"


"(which is rascist in itself but blacks cant be rascist)"


"a bit of background before i continue: he is about 5 or 6th generation that was born in america and still lives in a horrible neighborhood)
and when me and my parents moved here they had no language no friends to help us out and 100$ to help us live during the small recesion we had in 92. today me and my parents live in a 6 bedroom house with 2 expensive cars. So everything he said about that he was from africa prevented him to get far in life since he wsa a 'foriegner'".


"This i also find interesting because while the white guy attended all of his classes worked his ass of as well as have a job to help his family survive while the black guy ditches his calsses and fails them and party all night."


"so if he was so bad why doesnt he and his family move back to AFrica and live off the land instead of living off of our taxes."


"So in conclusion i am sick of African American's bull****"

Well, I don't know whos puppet you are pal, but nobody can spell and use such appalling grammar that innocently.

Whoever and whatever you are, you most certainly are a racist and you're fooling no-one here.

Some light reading, if you have any interest in the world beyond your damn nose. (http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Third_World_US/SI_Kozol_StLouis.html)

Well although you sound like a racist you do bring up somewhat of a point. I go to a fairly good school. (One of the best public schools in the US) Our school buses in inner-city kids to recieve a better education. However, almost all of the kids bused in don't care about school, come tardy everyday to my clases, never have their homework done, and some days don't even come to school. (skipping, they aren't sick) Although this is not true for all of them, (some of the bused in kids do very well, because they try, however these kids are a minority) However, do not get the impression that I am a racist. Its only fair to say that white and other race students bussed in often try as little as black kids that are bussed in. Originally, I was led to believe the black kids didnt try, because they didn't bother. Now I realize it is not just the black kids, but most of the inner-city children. Thus in this way, I agree with VOD, in the fact the many inner-city people are given chances but on their own decision throw them away, thus condeming themselves to a life of poverty... However, in no way is it limited to black people. Well I'm looking forward to seeing what people say...

Some light reading, if you have any interest in the world beyond your damn nose. (http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Third_World_US/SI_Kozol_StLouis.html)
http://www.geog.ucsb.edu/~jeff/earthgifs/world.gif

Yes, I've just read it. And it brings shame to a nation that calls itself a super-power. In Imperial Britain, during Victorian days, we suffered similar squalid poverty and inequality. You'd perhaps be forgiven for thinking that things should have changed in 100 years.

Some light reading, if you have any interest in the world beyond your damn nose. (http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Third_World_US/SI_Kozol_StLouis.html)
http://www.geog.ucsb.edu/~jeff/earthgifs/world.gif

Yes, I've just read it. And it brings shame to a nation that calls itself a super-power. In Imperial Britain, during Victorian days, we suffered similar squalid poverty and inequality. You'd perhaps be forgiven for thinking that things should have changed in 100 years.
I read the book a while ago, so I didn't read all of this excerpt to see if it included the bit about closing off the bridge to town. I was in public when I read it, which kept me from throwing the book against the wall and screaming at the top of my lungs. Everytime I hear someone spit this vitriol about how the poor deserve it and whip out thier Horatio Alger stories I think of this and nash my teeth. It's just too hard to respond without swearing.

EdIt: I should add that I have the same response when I hear people saying we need to invade countries to do something we can't be bothered with in our own backyards.

How utterly fascinating. I've often head of conflict between the immigrant populations of various backgrounds and African American demographic groups around the US. This is, I believe, another story of just such a conflict. I've seen many reports of conflict between Koreans and African-Americans in the LA area, where accusations of blatant racism and discrimination have flown between both sides.

What I've heard from the academic community on the subject is that we see what can be described as an entrenched population near the bottom of the social strata (in this case the African-Americans) being replaced by a new group that seemingly pushes them further down the social ladder. In LA that new group was the Koreans; in this case it’s our original poster's demographic. In turn, the "new arrivals" (no matter how long they've been there, they're perceived as being fresh off the boat) cry foul when they are described as yet another layer of oppressors themselves.

An interesting theory, no?
(not really, no)

How utterly fascinating. I've often head of conflict between the immigrant populations of various backgrounds and African American demographic groups around the US. This is, I believe, another story of just such a conflict. I've seen many reports of conflict between Koreans and African-Americans in the LA area, where accusations of blatant racism and discrimination have flown between both sides.

What I've heard from the academic community on the subject is that we see what can be described as an entrenched population near the bottom of the social strata (in this case the African-Americans) being replaced by a new group that seemingly pushes them further down the social ladder. In LA that new group was the Koreans; in this case it’s our original poster's demographic. In turn, the "new arrivals" (no matter how long they've been there, they're perceived as being fresh off the boat) cry foul when they are described as yet another layer of oppressors themselves.

An interesting theory, no?
(not really, no)
There is pressure from below as well.
Black-Latino tensions in LA are even more acute b/c Blacks feel that the new arrivals from south of the border are competing with them for social assistance, government jobs and are eroding their political influence.

Can’t understand the whole ‘African American’ Irish American’ thing. Your either American or your not. As Teddy said ‘There can be no fifty-fifty Americanism in this country. There is room here for only hundred per cent Americanism, only for those who are Americans and nothing else.’
In the UK we have many cultures mixed with the original, making an interesting combination. But ask the majority of the children of immigrant what they are and they will say they are British, they may even say Scottish or English.
Surely you can be proud to be ‘just’ an American?


:?

an "ascosiete" of yours? you can't spell worth sh*t. what do you do for a living, clean toilets?

Don't flame.

Well although you sound like a racist you do bring up somewhat of a point. I go to a fairly good school. (One of the best public schools in the US) Our school buses in inner-city kids to recieve a better education. However, almost all of the kids bused in don't care about school, come tardy everyday to my clases, never have their homework done, and some days don't even come to school. (skipping, they aren't sick) Although this is not true for all of them, (some of the bused in kids do very well, because they try, however these kids are a minority) However, do not get the impression that I am a racist. Its only fair to say that white and other race students bussed in often try as little as black kids that are bussed in. Originally, I was led to believe the black kids didnt try, because they didn't bother. Now I realize it is not just the black kids, but most of the inner-city children. Thus in this way, I agree with VOD, in the fact the many inner-city people are given chances but on their own decision throw them away, thus condeming themselves to a life of poverty... However, in no way is it limited to black people. Well I'm looking forward to seeing what people say...

Hmmm....I know this has nothing to do with you're point, but it reminded me of something.
I've never agreed with the Reconciliation Day in my country, because of 2 main reasons:

- I, nor did my father nor my mother who immigrated here about 25 years ago from the Philippines and NZ had anything to do with the stolen generation. And the day is basically for people who are willing to take responsibility for something that happened so very long ago.

- In year 8 I went on a excursion to Canberra and we passed the Aboriginal Embassy and we all got out to speak to this one aboriginal fellow. And he basically told us that all of us (we were 13 and 14) including all our families were to blame for the reason why the children were stolen ('stolen' whatever). And then proceeded to tell us off and blame us for aboriginal oppression. Finally this girl a year above me said "I'm sorry." as if she didn't know what to do, and was quite terrified..because he was really pissed off...and then he just went "But do you mean it." And from then on all I could think of was how ridiculous the whole situation the whole event was. I and everyone around me was being blamed for something that 1) we didn't do and 2) aboriginal oppression? How did we have anything to do with it. We were 14.

Someone out there is going to tell me I'm racist. But just because I disagree with teh day doesn't mean I'm hating aboriginals.

Some light reading, if you have any interest in the world beyond your damn nose. (http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Third_World_US/SI_Kozol_StLouis.html)Jesus Christ. I mean, thats the kind of thing that you'd expect to read in Jennifer Govenment, but don't even imagine going on in the real world.

Well although you sound like a racist you do bring up somewhat of a point. I go to a fairly good school. (One of the best public schools in the US) Our school buses in inner-city kids to recieve a better education. However, almost all of the kids bused in don't care about school, come tardy everyday to my clases, never have their homework done, and some days don't even come to school. (skipping, they aren't sick) Although this is not true for all of them, (some of the bused in kids do very well, because they try, however these kids are a minority) However, do not get the impression that I am a racist. Its only fair to say that white and other race students bussed in often try as little as black kids that are bussed in. Originally, I was led to believe the black kids didnt try, because they didn't bother. Now I realize it is not just the black kids, but most of the inner-city children. Thus in this way, I agree with VOD, in the fact the many inner-city people are given chances but on their own decision throw them away, thus condeming themselves to a life of poverty... However, in no way is it limited to black people. Well I'm looking forward to seeing what people say...

Hmmm....I know this has nothing to do with you're point, but it reminded me of something.
I've never agreed with the Reconciliation Day in my country, because of 2 main reasons:

- I, nor did my father nor my mother who immigrated here about 25 years ago from the Philippines and NZ had anything to do with the stolen generation. And the day is basically for people who are willing to take responsibility for something that happened so very long ago.

- In year 8 I went on a excursion to Canberra and we passed the Aboriginal Embassy and we all got out to speak to this one aboriginal fellow. And he basically told us that all of us (we were 13 and 14) including all our families were to blame for the reason why the children were stolen ('stolen' whatever). And then proceeded to tell us off and blame us for aboriginal oppression. Finally this girl a year above me said "I'm sorry." as if she didn't know what to do, and was quite terrified..because he was really pissed off...and then he just went "But do you mean it." And from then on all I could think of was how ridiculous the whole situation the whole event was. I and everyone around me was being blamed for something that 1) we didn't do and 2) aboriginal oppression? How did we have anything to do with it. We were 14.

Someone out there is going to tell me I'm racist. But just because I disagree with teh day doesn't mean I'm hating aboriginals.

Blaming someone for something their ancestors did always seemed a bit silly to me, and I wouldn't call you a racist based on your post. It doesn't sound like there was really much reconciliation going on that day, anyway.

But here is the question: Can you see the oppression, set aside the aboriginal man who was assigning blame so freely, and still not realize that oppressive discrimination based on race is wrong and that it would be appropriate to do a little something about it?

I'm not saying you should sell all your property to feed the aborigines. I just note that compassion might move you to make an effort to end oppression as much as you are able, whether it be in the form of racial oppression, gender oppression, etc.

Some light reading, if you have any interest in the world beyond your damn nose. (http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Third_World_US/SI_Kozol_StLouis.html)

In an interesting coincidence, I volunteered in East St. Louis over Spring Break this year. There was a very good Chinese restaurant there...but I digress. The poverty was incredible. Just as incredible as the poverty I've seen in southeast Kentucky or Mississippi.

Blaming someone for something their ancestors did always seemed a bit silly to me, and I wouldn't call you a racist based on your post. It doesn't sound like there was really much reconciliation going on that day, anyway.

But here is the question: Can you see the oppression, set aside the aboriginal man who was assigning blame so freely, and still not realize that oppressive discrimination based on race is wrong and that it would be appropriate to do a little something about it?

I'm not saying you should sell all your property to feed the aborigines. I just note that compassion might move you to make an effort to end oppression as much as you are able, whether it be in the form of racial oppression, gender oppression, etc.

I'm pretty sure there's like zero aboriginal oppression where I live. Most people in the mountains who are either full blooded or partial blooded aboriginals and nowhere have the felt discrimiated. Infact, they seem to have been given a many more advantages educationally for their kids or financially. I'm not being bitter about it because I was all "Well yeah, if it's going to help you, take it." I think it's when they're abusing the priviledge and demand more (and this goes for anyone who receives anything) so they can continue to live off the government without doing something. That's where the line is drawn. Other then that I'm convinced there's only actually a small majority of people who still oppress them.

Ah, the utterance of those immortal words . . .

I'm not a racist, but . . .

I know. If you think something, just say it. Let people draw their own conclusions.

Blaming someone for something their ancestors did always seemed a bit silly to me, and I wouldn't call you a racist based on your post. It doesn't sound like there was really much reconciliation going on that day, anyway.

But here is the question: Can you see the oppression, set aside the aboriginal man who was assigning blame so freely, and still not realize that oppressive discrimination based on race is wrong and that it would be appropriate to do a little something about it?

I'm not saying you should sell all your property to feed the aborigines. I just note that compassion might move you to make an effort to end oppression as much as you are able, whether it be in the form of racial oppression, gender oppression, etc.

I'm pretty sure there's like zero aboriginal oppression where I live. Most people in the mountains who are either full blooded or partial blooded aboriginals and nowhere have the felt discrimiated. Infact, they seem to have been given a many more advantages educationally for their kids or financially. I'm not being bitter about it because I was all "Well yeah, if it's going to help you, take it." I think it's when they're abusing the priviledge and demand more (and this goes for anyone who receives anything) so they can continue to live off the government without doing something. That's where the line is drawn. Other then that I'm convinced there's only actually a small majority of people who still oppress them.

Understood. I would draw a line there as well.

Even if there is only a small minority oppressing them, would it not be appropriate to help end even that minor oppression? If you don't live in an area where you are able to help, that's fine. I just think any kind of oppression is serious business, and should be stopped.

Another question: Is not creating a dependency on the government a form of oppression?

A decent post for the 1900 mark, eh?

To be honest lads blacks are fine. And the guy who started this thread, well, your just gay, and taking your anger out on other cultures because cleaning loos is all you can do

To be honest lads blacks are fine. And the guy who started this thread, well, your just gay, and taking your anger out on other cultures because cleaning loos is all you can do

Hi all.

This whole topic is pretty interesting. I'd like to remind people that even though this convo seems to be looking at African Americans, EVERY ethnic group has their bell curve.

I myself am Asian and I've never really had a problem with African Americans. One of them was my best friend before we started going to different schools in different towns.

There is a definite stereotype for each ethnicity. For some reason people like to assume that Asian girls are really intelligent and they're either quiet and a bit conservative or they are making their ways to becoming porn stars (at least where I live). So not true!

Everyone who is in this country is here for a reason. We like to bitch and gripe, yet we're so opposed to giving things back into society. Our standards are high compared to other countries. We travel there, look around and say "How the hell can you LIVE here?" That is what they know, what they're familiar with. And this is what we know and what we're familiar with.

So if a person wants to complain about their heritage and so forth, ha... ha... ha... They never experienced the things their ancestors did and they should all be damn glad they never had to.

Basically, my point is:

1) There is a bell curve for each ethnicity as well as stereotypes.
2) People shouldn't complain about shit as much as they do.
3) The person who started this discussion should take a deep breath and stop generalizing African Americans. Just because one person is saying it, doesn't mean all of them are.

Anywho, this has gotten a bit rambly and it's time for one of my classes to start. So have a good day or night, etc. Laterz! :wink:

Im goeng to mispel stuf two!

(a) The person who started this thread specifically said that not all African Americans say or believe stuff like that, which qualifies him as not being a blatant racist.

(b) The stuff the person said is complete bull and I believe that that is the topic of conversation.

(c) I am full-blooded American and I'm sick of all this us against them mentality in this country. Everyone is American with the same basic rights and opportunities. Anyone from a disadvantaged background deserves a little bit of help, but if they misuse or refuse it, then they deserve to be right where they are. No one deserves to be supported by other people unless they are completely incapable of taking care of themselves.

To long of a topic for a simple post.

Observations in my time so take it for what it is.....

* I did the geeky build a computer from spare parts thing back in the early days of the PC. A buddy who as black didn't want to get involved as it was not cool(his words). All through school I think I can barely count 10 blacks in all of my computer classes. It was a good way to make money and you could find Caucasians, Asians, Hispanics....

* I have listened to successful Blacks talk about how there is this traitor attitude for rising above their situtation.

* The actor Will Smith once commented on how he put effort in speaking well. He was accused of wanting to be white.

* Having done the Goverment thing, I have seen the race card played more then once. A person who was not qualified for a job(ex. A printer operator not getting a programing supervisor postion) was denied because of racism.

* A black man once knocked out a white woman and was promptly fired by 2 white managers. He sued and got his job back because it was race motivated.

* I have had a few Africans ask me my opinion of the American blacks (as they called them). As one from Nigeria said. "The people here seem to think Africa is Paradise. It is my home and I do like it but this country has far more opportunity"

Moral of the story: Worthless people are not defined by their skin color. The African American community is going to have to figure out their own problems. No amount of money is going to raise their standards unless they want them raised.

Things are vastly better then they were 40 years ago.

As I heard a black DJ(can't remember his name) exclaim on a show about racism in the Police force.

"Things are bad as always?(talking to a black cop) Listen I am sixtyfive years old. Fourty years ago, I had the KKK chasing my ass through the woods. Nowadays I don't worry about anybody coming after me because I am black!"

I can remember when I was a kid that people would stair and point if they saw a black/white couple. Now nobody even looks twice....

It's not perfect but its hardly the same as it was back in MLKs day. Business has changed now. If a Black man or woman is going to make a corporation a buttload of money, they aren't going to turn them away because they are black.

Now before i start this i just have to say i have a lot of black friends and their are mayn african americans who do not fit this stereotype that i am about to use. if u r offended by somewhat rascist comments do not keep reading. I apologize in advance. -Sincerly Vampires of Death

Recently i was having a conversation with a African American ascosiete of mine and he said the most frustrating thing to me. (which is rascist in itself but blacks cant be rascist) the conversation flowed somthing like this: it was my fault, as a white person, that he was suffering in america. He said my people brought us over to america where they had to suffer hundreds of years of slavery and opression and that whites were still opressing the black by not letting the majority of them into good school and such. (he also pointed out that the black CEO's and black success stories were just out there so the blacks couldnt call all whites rascists). He also remarked that so many blacks lived in 'ghetto's' because whites were taking all the good living spaces. ( a bit of background before i continue: he is about 5 or 6th generation that was born in america and still lives in a horrible neighborhood)

Now im saying to everyone that is reading this that this is bull****. I am second generation immgrant (meaning i was borne over in Russia but lived most of my life here) and when me and my parents moved here they had no language no friends to help us out and 100$ to help us live during the small recesion we had in 92. today me and my parents live in a 6 bedroom house with 2 expensive cars. So everything he said about that he was from africa prevented him to get far in life since he wsa a 'foriegner'. Now he also pointed out how unfair it was that a graduate of that school ( year ahead of him and also white such as me) attended stanford University (for those of u unware or in another country stanford is in the top 5 best colledges in the country). My black asscoicate said it was completely unfair that the whit guy got into stanford and he would proboyl not. This i also find interesting because while the white guy attended all of his classes worked his ass of as well as have a job to help his family survive while the black guy ditches his calsses and fails them and party all night.

As to the remark that becuase he's black he is opressed that is bull i have seen so many black people get far in life by working hard and i am apauled at that comemnt. He also said we forced him to come to America and live this 'opressed' life style. Well actually when slavery was revoked the US governement actually helped pay for slaves that wanted to go back to Africa so if he was so bad why doesnt he and his family move back to AFrica and live off the land instead of living off of our taxes.
(i apologize for the last remark i am not a rascist)

So in conclusion i am sick of African American's bull**** pissing me off
---Vampires of Death---

I feel your pain. Soon the world will be taken over by crying minorities and feminists. The white male will soon be a endangered species

Now before i start this i just have to say i have a lot of black friends and their are mayn african americans who do not fit this stereotype that i am about to use. if u r offended by somewhat rascist comments do not keep reading. I apologize in advance. -Sincerly Vampires of Death

Recently i was having a conversation with a African American ascosiete of mine and he said the most frustrating thing to me. (which is rascist in itself but blacks cant be rascist) the conversation flowed somthing like this: it was my fault, as a white person, that he was suffering in america. He said my people brought us over to america where they had to suffer hundreds of years of slavery and opression and that whites were still opressing the black by not letting the majority of them into good school and such. (he also pointed out that the black CEO's and black success stories were just out there so the blacks couldnt call all whites rascists). He also remarked that so many blacks lived in 'ghetto's' because whites were taking all the good living spaces. ( a bit of background before i continue: he is about 5 or 6th generation that was born in america and still lives in a horrible neighborhood)

Now im saying to everyone that is reading this that this is bull****. I am second generation immgrant (meaning i was borne over in Russia but lived most of my life here) and when me and my parents moved here they had no language no friends to help us out and 100$ to help us live during the small recesion we had in 92. today me and my parents live in a 6 bedroom house with 2 expensive cars. So everything he said about that he was from africa prevented him to get far in life since he wsa a 'foriegner'. Now he also pointed out how unfair it was that a graduate of that school ( year ahead of him and also white such as me) attended stanford University (for those of u unware or in another country stanford is in the top 5 best colledges in the country). My black asscoicate said it was completely unfair that the whit guy got into stanford and he would proboyl not. This i also find interesting because while the white guy attended all of his classes worked his ass of as well as have a job to help his family survive while the black guy ditches his calsses and fails them and party all night.

As to the remark that becuase he's black he is opressed that is bull i have seen so many black people get far in life by working hard and i am apauled at that comemnt. He also said we forced him to come to America and live this 'opressed' life style. Well actually when slavery was revoked the US governement actually helped pay for slaves that wanted to go back to Africa so if he was so bad why doesnt he and his family move back to AFrica and live off the land instead of living off of our taxes.
(i apologize for the last remark i am not a rascist)

So in conclusion i am sick of African American's bull**** pissing me off
---Vampires of Death---

I feel your pain. Soon the world will be taken over by crying minorities and feminists. The white male will soon be a endangered species

The funny thing is, white males are a minority, they've just managed to convince many people, often including themselves, that they are a majority.

DP

Only a few things that anger me is that usage "african american" or "Irish American" it is total and complete bullsh*t. You are either american or your not. So be proude because we are the greatest nation their is. if you don't like this country you can get the f*ck out. Haven't you anti-american murderers done anough to us on 9/11. Another thing that I hate is were some people say' "oh I'm black that is why I am poor". wrong the reason you are poor is because you are a moron with no ambishon, integrity or balls to work hard and get a real job. For example a man I respect is a man named by Clarence Tomas who basikly said it is not the white man keeping you down but it is yourselfs. And look at those white trash bums in trailer park. Poverty affects all races not just minoritys. Also black people have been equal to black people now. Also black people can insult white people and that is free speech and funny but if a white person makes fun of a black person they are racist and are brainded a heritc. So funny how politcal correctness works. Also anyone can succed if they try.

I concur!

To be honest lads blacks are fine. And the guy who started this thread, well, your just gay, and taking your anger out on other cultures because cleaning loos is all you can do

What are you talking about? sure this guy is generlizing but you named your nation after a complete douch. Hitler was a horrible man.

IMO blacks are making themselves look like lazyass people and eventually the world will get over it and ppl will realize how racist they are. Most black ppl are great i hardly notice the difference in skin color just when they start to talk about race i say shudup withotu white youd be livign in caves in africa or have aids or something.

All this is very interesting.

I my experience here in the USA Blacks are racists and very violent. Not all of course just generally. They willingly segregate themselves and constantly blame Whites for everything that is wrong in their communities.
Want a real eye opener? Go to the FBI web site and check out crime statistics by race. Blacks still have hatred towards us for slavery.
We got an American Yugoslavia coming in the next 15-20 years I fear. All the ingredients for civil war exist here right now. That will be a sad day for a short lived nation(200+ years is short by historical standards).

It's interesting that when referring to minorities...most instantly speak bout blacks...hispanics, asians, and Indians get caught up somewhere after that..

But as a member of an oppressed minority...let me explain something, especially to the man who said he's tired of hearing bout hyphenated-Americans...that we're all just Americans...ahmm..excuse me?..Even though my tribe has been assimilated into as an American sub-culture for about 150 yrs..tribes like the Lakota only bout 100 yrs..make no mistake..we Indians did not CHOOSE to be Americans..we did not CHOOSE to be immigrants...we were grabbed, kicking and screaming into this relationship we have with America.

For the individual who said that without the white man we'd be living in caves...that may indeed be true...the Native Americans..or if that offends you...the Canadian groups are called members of the First Nations..we were a stone age civilization....but it was our civiliazation..our choice to determine the destiny of that civilization...I would gladly give up this very computer I'm typing this on..my cell phone..and my truck if the lands that were my ancestors for thousands of years before the white man came to the New World were returned to us.....

It's interesting that when referring to minorities...most instantly speak bout blacks...hispanics, asians, and Indians get caught up somewhere after that..

But as a member of an oppressed minority...let me explain something, especially to the man who said he's tired of hearing bout hyphenated-Americans...that we're all just Americans...ahmm..excuse me?..Even though my tribe has been assimilated into as an American sub-culture for about 150 yrs..tribes like the Lakota only bout 100 yrs..make no mistake..we Indians did not CHOOSE to be Americans..we did not CHOOSE to be immigrants...we were grabbed, kicking and screaming into this relationship we have with America.

For the individual who said that without the white man we'd be living in caves...that may indeed be true...the Native Americans..or if that offends you...the Canadian groups are called members of the First Nations..we were a stone age civilization....but it was our civiliazation..our choice to determine the destiny of that civilization...I would gladly give up this very computer I'm typing this on..my cell phone..and my truck if the lands that were my ancestors for thousands of years before the white man came to the New World were returned to us.....

Sign me up too. I would love to rejoin the tribes and live the way my Grandfather taught me. I want to go home, But there are malls there now.

It's interesting that when referring to minorities...most instantly speak bout blacks...hispanics, asians, and Indians get caught up somewhere after that..

But as a member of an oppressed minority...let me explain something, especially to the man who said he's tired of hearing bout hyphenated-Americans...that we're all just Americans...ahmm..excuse me?..Even though my tribe has been assimilated into as an American sub-culture for about 150 yrs..tribes like the Lakota only bout 100 yrs..make no mistake..we Indians did not CHOOSE to be Americans..we did not CHOOSE to be immigrants...we were grabbed, kicking and screaming into this relationship we have with America.

For the individual who said that without the white man we'd be living in caves...that may indeed be true...the Native Americans..or if that offends you...the Canadian groups are called members of the First Nations..we were a stone age civilization....but it was our civiliazation..our choice to determine the destiny of that civilization...I would gladly give up this very computer I'm typing this on..my cell phone..and my truck if the lands that were my ancestors for thousands of years before the white man came to the New World were returned to us.....

DITTO!

No ones stopping the Indians from returning to their stone age hunter gatherer lifestlye. If they dont like european inspired civilization they can return to thier primitive ways. I see the homeless ones do it all the time under the highway overpasses.

No ones stopping the Indians from returning to their stone age hunter gatherer lifestlye. If they dont like european inspired civilization they can return to thier primitive ways. I see the homeless ones do it all the time under the highway overpasses.

Sure...I hunt with a bow..know how to skin a deer..smoke the meat, make fire...shelter..all these things my father taught me...but in order to do that...I want the lands that were ours..which includes for the Cherokee the State of Tennesee, Eastern Arkansas, Northern Georgia, Western North Carolina, and parts of southern Kentucky. Do that..and allow for the natural evolution of our people...who is to say we would not have evolved past the stone age....but 400 yrs ago that decision was taken from us by force, death, and the intrustion of an unwanted group of people.

Recently i was having a conversation with a African American ascosiete of mine and he said the most frustrating thing to me. (which is rascist in itself but blacks cant be rascist) the conversation flowed somthing like this: it was my fault, as a white person, that he was suffering in america.
Well, it may not be YOUR fault per se. But I believe it is generally the white men who control our country. But then again it is probably your fault, too, considering your bashing of his race.
He said my people brought us over to america where they had to suffer hundreds of years of slavery and opression and that whites were still opressing the black by not letting the majority of them into good school and such. (he also pointed out that the black CEO's and black success stories were just out there so the blacks couldnt call all whites rascists). He also remarked that so many blacks lived in 'ghetto's' because whites were taking all the good living spaces. ( a bit of background before i continue: he is about 5 or 6th generation that was born in america and still lives in a horrible neighborhood)
Don't be confused: this is true for all poor American's, not just blacks. Unfortunately, the end of slavery threw the vast majority of blacks out into poverty, while still suffering the as-bad-as-slavery job of sharecropping.


Well actually when slavery was revoked the US governement actually helped pay for slaves that wanted to go back to Africa so if he was so bad why doesnt he and his family move back to AFrica and live off the land instead of living off of our taxes.
(i apologize for the last remark i am not a rascist)
Dude, you SO need to go watch "Roots".