NationStates Jolt Archive

I disagree. I think that when the American army pulls out of Iraq things will not be the same. The econamtic standing has gone down, gas prices have gone up etc. So if you think about it there wont be anything good that can come out of this. People can agree to disagree with me on this but I know and I'm sure some of you out there know as well that I'm right. With the way things have gone there is no chance that things will look up. I honestly think that if the troops were to pull out, and hand over the country to the proper people then yes things can get better. Let the people of Iraq deal with there own problems and be a INDEPENDENT COUNTRY.

P.S. We all know that the even though the Americans say that they are there to help the people of Iraq...its really the oil that they want....hint hint the Americans like to take things that dont belong to them and they like to over stay their visits in other peoples countries....I still like some parts of the States but Bush needs to step down and he needs to do it fast. Plus tell me this, if Gore were to have been President [which he should have been] do you really think that these things would have happened??? I think not, tell me what you think.

I think our presence there has aggravated the troubles. There may be attempted invasions by Iran or Turkey, so I hope they have a reasonable domestic force in place.

If such invasions do take place, we owe it to Iraq to use our air power against the invaders.

I think it's very much a rock and a hard place situation.

Pull out too early and we risk condeeming Iraq to civil war or leaving them at the mercy of Turkey and Iran.

Stay and the death toll rises, resenment rises, Al'Queda influence grows.

Tough one.

It's a morass of bad choices. If we pull out now, we invite complete dissolution in the region, bloody civil war and, most likely, the eventual installation of a theocracy that will be less than amenable, to say the least, to Western interests. Every second we're there, though, represents the loss of a significant fraction of our already extremely limited international credibility.

We have two choices. Say we were wrong and pull out immediately, letting the Iraqi's themselves deal with it. This gets us our troops back, but makes an already shabby situation look even worse and certainly has terrible implications for any deals or treaties we try and negotiate in the future.

The second choice, and my personal suggestion, would be to say we were wrong and go groveling to the UN for combined world support. Even at this stage, if we make a large enough act of contrition, I think the UN and the global community could be persuaded to work together to find a solution in Iraq. This, of course, will never happen because it would require the sacrifice of a huge amount of pride on the part of Bush and it's much easier to sacrifice lives.

It's a morass of bad choices. If we pull out now, we invite complete dissolution in the region, bloody civil war and, most likely, the eventual installation of a theocracy that will be less than amenable, to say the least, to Western interests. Every second we're there, though, represents the loss of a significant fraction of our already extremely limited international credibility.

We have two choices. Say we were wrong and pull out immediately, letting the Iraqi's themselves deal with it. This gets us our troops back, but makes an already shabby situation look even worse and certainly has terrible implications for any deals or treaties we try and negotiate in the future.

The second choice, and my personal suggestion, would be to say we were wrong and go groveling to the UN for combined world support. Even at this stage, if we make a large enough act of contrition, I think the UN and the global community could be persuaded to work together to find a solution in Iraq. This, of course, will never happen because it would require the sacrifice of a huge amount of pride on the part of Bush and it's much easier to sacrifice lives.