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What's Better - Past, Present or Future?

Garaj Mahal
18-05-2004, 06:47
If you could somehow use "Time Travel" to permanently move to another time, would you?

I'd take a gamble and move about 500 years into the future. I have faith that humanity will still be around and that things will be better than now. And even if I'm wrong, at least I'd learn the answers to all our speculations and could die knowing the truth - hopefully I could handle that!

I don't think there ever was a "good old days", except maybe for a short time during about 1963-72 in Canada and England. (Too bad I was too young to be partying it up 60s-style like my big sister was back then!)

When I look at the present day, I think humanity is in a primitive & immature stage that we have yet to grow out of. And we will too, so long as we can get through the dangerous times we're in now.
Garaj Mahal
18-05-2004, 16:50
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MasterLeo
18-05-2004, 18:47
Physicaly time travel is impossible. Before you even get close to the speed of light you'll be crushed.
Gods Bowels
18-05-2004, 18:55
nothing exists but the present moment

everything else exists only in the imagination


but time travel may be possible once they get teleportation to work on something larger than atoms. I think the key lies in that process somewhere.
Collaboration
18-05-2004, 18:58
When I was a kid, I thought the future would be wonderful.

Now that I'm a codger, I long for the past.
Troon
18-05-2004, 20:05
Physicaly time travel is impossible. Before you even get close to the speed of light you'll be crushed.

Crushed? I know your mass will increase...but not that much. Is it? The key factor everyone talks about is running out of the energy. And besides, travelling near the speed of light only allows you to go forward in time, not back. (Sure, it would help this guy, but not others perhaps).

I don't know whether I would want to travel in time...
Garaj Mahal
18-05-2004, 21:10
The question of whether "time travel" is theoretically possible would make a fascinating subject for some other thread.

But on *this* thread I'd hoped that we could do a "what if" mental exercise to ask whether we feel the past, the present or the future would be the most attractive place to be. Pretty straightforward right?

For those who clicked on a Poll option above, what are the reasons for your choice?
Collaboration
18-05-2004, 21:14
Collaboration
18-05-2004, 21:16
"Oft have I travel'd the stately realms of gold..."

Imagination is still the best vehicle.
Daistallia 2104
19-05-2004, 05:40
Right now is real. The past is gone. The future is not here yet. I choose now.

(Time travel is not only possible, it is very common. We are all travelling forwards in time as I type. By the time you read this we, will both have travelled forward in time seconds, minutes, or even hours.
Colodia
19-05-2004, 05:44
Humans live for the future.

Think about it. People always fantacize about the future. Little kids wanting to be older people with cool jobs. Teens wanting their cars. Girls wanting a boyfriend. Adults waiting for the weekend to relax. We live for the future.
Greater Valia
19-05-2004, 05:57
ive always wanted to live in the time right before WWI, in a big mansion with lots of slaves... ergh, endentured servants.
Eridanus
19-05-2004, 06:08
I look towards the future, for it is bright, and it is coming at full speed.
Marxinapolis
19-05-2004, 06:36
I'd like to go back to the 18th century and chill with Thomas Paine and Wolfgang Mozart... or maybe back to the early 20th century and chill with Eugene Debs and Mother Jones. Anyway, I think the future is just gonna get worse until the world ends in 2012. Then all you dumbasses who went into the future will be fucked.

p.s. sorry I called you dumbasses
Ascensia
19-05-2004, 07:00
The days when eating meat was not a crime...

The days when the world admitted they were pwned by the U.S or the Soviets...

The days of full-serve gasoline...

The days of when college professors stayed out of politics...

The days when nationalism was a part of daily life...

Ahh...
Kanabia
19-05-2004, 07:34
Physicaly time travel is impossible. Before you even get close to the speed of light you'll be crushed.

Crushed? I know your mass will increase...but not that much. Is it? The key factor everyone talks about is running out of the energy. And besides, travelling near the speed of light only allows you to go forward in time, not back. (Sure, it would help this guy, but not others perhaps).

I don't know whether I would want to travel in time...

Its all E=MC^2.

Above the speed of light, your mass will be infinite.

So anything approaching the speed of light will still result in a very large mass.
C18X
19-05-2004, 08:16
http://www.rotten.com/library/religion/quantum-physics/

Some interesting things on time travel and how quantum physics could make it possible.
Kanabia
19-05-2004, 11:00
http://www.rotten-com/library/religion/quantum-physics/

Some interesting things on time travel and how quantum physics could make it possible.

I think linking to that webpage is banned. Be careful.

Theres nothing bad on that page though, just so no trigger happy mods see it and do something nasty :lol:
Garaj Mahal
20-05-2004, 01:52
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Celestial Paranoia
20-05-2004, 02:09
What better time then now. What better place then here.
Garaj Mahal
20-05-2004, 02:18
What better time then now. What better place then here.

I feel that way when I've just had an orgasm with somebody too! :lol:
Purly Euclid
20-05-2004, 02:29
The future is scary, as there is a lot of uncertainty about what it may hold. However, humans have an uncanny ability to endure, and I have faith in humanity. Besides, even if bad things happen in the future (climate change, oil shortages, etc.), bring 'em on! Challenges make the future so exciting. So guys, look forward. No matter what happens to any of us, great things are bound to come from them. And if you haven't guessed, I'd say the future.
Salishe
20-05-2004, 02:43
The past...definitely..back to a time when my people were a power unto themselves thruout the entire southwest..when the name of the Cherokee would bring respect thruout an entire region....before my people were brutally forced from ancestral lands that had been ours for millenia. A simpler time...we lived with what that spirits had given us...a place to live and a place to die..where a man could hunt and walk for days and still not see another human being.where family was important...where the tribe was what mattered...when a man's personal honor gave him purpose and focus.

To a time before my people were "civilized"..and before we knew how "savage and backward" we were.
Velumae
20-05-2004, 03:00
For some reason I have a feeling of forboding doom for the future. Or maybe i just read too many "Utopia" books as a child. The past would be cool, except for the fact that I'm a girl and most of my dreams would be impossible in the past. The present is my only other option, but I have gotton bored with it.

Maybe I'll move to a diffrent country when I get older. Its kinda the same experiance as time travel.
Robunistag
20-05-2004, 03:06
id go to the future, there is alot more future then there is past.

and anyhow there is no such thing as time travel, and it will never be possible.

because you are allways in the now, that is going to the future. :arrow:
Garaj Mahal
23-05-2004, 07:27
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23-05-2004, 07:44
I wasn't born but heck (note my use of old fashioned terminology :wink: ) I would love to live back in the 1960's.

I can't help but to love the way life is portrayed in "American Dreams". Idealistic, but that kind of society appeals to me.

Also...from what my parents have told me...the belief today that everyone feared a nuclear strike from the USSR is false. Most people didn't even think about it.

Why I like the 1960's:

1. Brill Cream - Gel just doesn't do as good a job.
2. TV shows were excellent.
3. Music was the best ever!
4. The economy was in top shape.
5. You used to know everyone in your neighbourhood - people got a long much better than today.
6. Fashion was better (except the black plastic glass rims - the person who invented that should be ashamed - but hey it is an icon of the 60's)
7. Time of great change and excitement (moon landing, civil rights, technology)

Well there are many more, but the 1960's appeal to me.
Tumaniaa
23-05-2004, 07:46
If I had alot of money I'd go backwards and sit in a lounge in a zeppelin from paris to london all day with a martini and offer pretty ladies on board a light...
Garaj Mahal
23-05-2004, 08:08
I wasn't born but heck (note my use of old fashioned terminology :wink: ) I would love to live back in the 1960's.

The thing about the 60s is that they mean so many different things to different people. For example some people might fondly remember the early 60s in the U.S. (surf music, British Invasion); while very much disliking the late 60s (hippies, sexual revolution).

So exactly which 60s did you have in mind?
Indra Prime
23-05-2004, 08:11
The Future would be much better as would not give the traveller the ability to screw with the timeline. Providing that they do not go back to the time they originated from. Going forward is not the problem. Going back in time is the one thing that can screw up the timeline. This would get you into many problems and frightening paradoxes. The Grandfather Paradox, the Melting Clock Paradox, etc, etc. I can explain more about these if you so desire but I decided to leave it as a small post.
23-05-2004, 08:48
I wasn't born but heck (note my use of old fashioned terminology :wink: ) I would love to live back in the 1960's.

The thing about the 60s is that they mean so many different things to different people. For example some people might fondly remember the early 60s in the U.S. (surf music, British Invasion); while very much disliking the late 60s (hippies, sexual revolution).

So exactly which 60s did you have in mind?

The early 1960's of course (era of the greatest music ever composed). After 1965 everything went downhill.
Garaj Mahal
24-05-2004, 08:16
So exactly which 60s did you have in mind?

The early 1960's of course (era of the greatest music ever composed). After 1965 everything went downhill.

Now I gotta disagree with that - in 1965 the fun was just getting started! And the greatest music began with Psychedelia.

Hmm...I sense a new thread topic emerging...
CharlotteMaria
28-05-2004, 23:41
My favourite times were:

- The "Thatcher" era (1979 to 1990)

- The "Church" era (1998 to 2002)

Ambition and greed forever! :twisted:
Arizona Nova
29-05-2004, 01:26
The future everyone envisions, with its silly flying cars, spaceships, and whatnot, is as much fantasy as LotR. I'd only go into the past, though, if I wasn't a serf-unless I had a good chance to become a knight through being a squire. Other than that, I would remain in the present.
What will the future bring? More of the same, except more complicated and more prone to break down in a fantastic and highly destructive fashion-the Evolution of Mischance, it is. And once one gets to the "future," they will probably be as excited as their attention span allows, then get bored again.
Dare I even mention how my religious beliefs affect my viewpoint, or will I be flamed to death by people as soon as I express anything? I'm one of those evil absolutist Christians, doncha know...
NewXmen
29-05-2004, 05:39
Present.
Rangerville
29-05-2004, 05:53
The present. I choose to live for the moment, this moment, rather than focus too much on the past or the future. There are decades i have a fondness for, the 80's because i am a child of the 80's, and the late 60's because of the music and because of the ideals people had. I wouldn't want to permanently live in those times though. I also don't want to go to the future yet, i want to take each day as it comes. None of us knows how many tomorrows we have, so i would rather enjoy my todays. I look at the past and future they way they did in Stephen King's "The Langoliers," that if you go to the past, there would be nothing there because it has already happened and you can't get it back. If you go to the future, there will also be nothing there because it hasn't occurred yet, and you can't create it. I have an abiding faith in mankind, and i think we can make these days better.
New Foxxinnia
29-05-2004, 05:55
What better time then now. What better place then here.I feel that way when I've just had an orgasm with somebody too! :lol:... *shudder*
Greater Valia
29-05-2004, 05:56
the past, and live with ctuluthu and the old ones
Euro Disneyland
20-07-2004, 07:52
Actually the "silly" flying cars everyone thinks of when you talk about the future are definately not silly. Well maybe they are silly, but they idea of them existing isn't. After all, we have already started creating personal spaceships to fly into space and back, wether you like it or not.

I picked the future. I guess because I am an idealist, and because I have goals which I would like to achieve. Also because in the future, Bush will be dead (I hope...:S) I don't want to time travel though. If we just time travel into the future, think of what we will be missing. Half the fun is getting there!
Erastide
20-07-2004, 08:32
I wouldn't want to permanently move to another time period. Lots of ancient history I'd absolutely love to visit and take long tours in, but not live in those conditions.

And I wouldn't want to leave everyone in my life right now. Life is interesting as is, there's no need to go to the future for change.
Garaj Mahal
18-08-2004, 06:54
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