NationStates Jolt Archive

This is a spinoff of that "Argue PRO-Homosexual Using the Bible" thread. I'll start:

Ok, well in the Bible we realize that some parts are contradictory (IE all the stuff concerning Mary Madgelene, and all these lost Gospels and the Dead Sea Scrolls). In a court case, a witness that is contradictory loses its credibility. So while the Bible is pro-life, due to its contradictory nature most (if not all) of its credibility is lost; do not accept anything the Bible tells you, including abortion.

(in a nutshell: i used the bible's contradictory nature in order to discredit it, and its view on abortion)

Sorry if I got anybody angry enough to flame because of this post

yes that is beautiful the bible itself is contradictory because it has been mistranslated and many of the stories have so many different tellings they have new meaning not teh meaning that "god" or Jesus had meant it to have.

"Judge not lest you be judged"

Also there is somewhere in Lev which says that an un-born childs life id worth less than a born ne.

yes that is beautiful the bible itself is contradictory because it has been mistranslated and many of the stories have so many different tellings they have new meaning not teh meaning that "god" or Jesus had meant it to have.
Well, then that's still a legitimate reason to not trust what the bible says- an even more legitimate reason, because we know the bible isn't what god or jesus intended it to be. The bible has been through so many men in translations, and men are obviously fallible...
Edit: I know how to spell.....

"Judge not lest you be judged"

Also there is somewhere in Lev which says that an un-born childs life id worth less than a born ne.

but where did it say you could kill it?

"Judge not lest you be judged"

Also there is somewhere in Lev which says that an un-born childs life id worth less than a born ne.

but where did it say you could kill it?

I have no idea. And I am not going to read /lev to find out.

What about the other quote.

"Judge not lest you be judged"

?

I have no idea. And I am not going to read /lev to find out.

What about the other quote.

"Judge not lest you be judged"?

yeah, so you'd better not sit back and let abortion happen, lest you be judged for it

I have no idea. And I am not going to read /lev to find out.

What about the other quote.

"Judge not lest you be judged"?

yeah, so you'd better not sit back and let abortion happen, lest you be judged for it


???

Way to twist a quote on being tolerent and keeping your nose out of other peoples business.

"Judge not lest you be judged"

Also there is somewhere in Lev which says that an un-born childs life id worth less than a born ne.

Is this what your thinking of?

"When men strive together, and hurt a woman with child, so that there is a miscarriage, and yet no harm follows, the one who hurt her shall be fined, according as the woman's husband shall lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. If any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe."

Exodus 21:22-25, RSV

Edited because I can't spell

"Judge not lest you be judged"

Also there is somewhere in Lev which says that an un-born childs life id worth less than a born ne.

Is this what your thinking of?

"When men strive together, and hurt a woman with child, so that there is a miscarriage, and yet no harm follows, the one who hurt her shall be fined, according as the woman's husband shall lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. If any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe."

Edous 21:22-25, RSV

Yep. Thanks

"When men strive together, and hurt a woman with child, so that there is a miscarriage, and yet no harm follows, the one who hurt her shall be fined, according as the woman's husband shall lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. If any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe."

Edous 21:22-25, RSV

you know, i really do wish fundies would read their bibles. the above is the only passage that relates to abortion in the entire book, and it clearly says that the unborn are not worth the same as an adult. why don't they go spend some time protesting people wearing clothes made with different fabrics or something else that the bible actually condemns instead?

the bible is heavy but a convenitent size
therefore i can use it to smite my enemies
if my enemies are anti-choice i can use it to smite them
therefore the bible can support abortion

"Judge not lest you be judged"

Also there is somewhere in Lev which says that an un-born childs life id worth less than a born ne.

but where did it say you could kill it?

I have no idea. And I am not going to read /lev to find out.

What about the other quote.

"Judge not lest you be judged"

?

Standing up for the right of the unborn child to live has nothing to do with "judging" the child or the mother, it has only to do with the child's right to live. Being opposed to gay relationships also doesn't mean that you are to hate gays. Why is that hard to understand?

the bible is heavy but a convenitent size
therefore i can use it to smite my enemies
if my enemies are anti-choice i can use it to smite them
therefore the bible can support abortion

Nice, I like your arguments more and more everyday.... On Topic though, the main verse I can point to is

For you formed my inward parts;
You wove me in my mothers womb.
I will give thanks to You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
Wonderful are your works,
And my sould knows it well.

Psalm 139:13-14