Presidential Problems
Ive come to the startaling realization that no presidential candidate could persuade a dog to their positions. Not against the moderate, but any supporter of Bush will not vote for Kerry under almost any condition. Given this, the next couple terms will be mostly useless. Why? Because any Democrat will try to kill every Republican program and if they do agree with it then it wouldnt have mattered who got elected. If you want some basic proof for this look at the campaign speeches. Bring change to the white house. Only when we get a great politician who can actually convince people will the country go to any certain direction.
What are people's coments on this?
Berkylvania
16-05-2004, 01:51
Er, welcome to the wonderful world of US partisan politics?
Our Earth
16-05-2004, 01:52
Er, welcome to the wonderful world of US partisan politics?
Please tell me you're a fellow anti-partisan.
actually to explain the beginning more, parties win and lose because of events that temporarly change people's votes. For example, the war in Iraq may make eople to vote for Bush, but why would they vote Republican next time?
Dragonhall
16-05-2004, 01:53
Er, welcome to the wonderful world of US partisan politics?
Yeah, that wonderful world makes me truly wonder what we'd be like if Hamilton, Franklin, and to a lesser extent Washington had their way at the first Continental Congress and got the amendment banning political parties ratified.
Berkylvania
16-05-2004, 01:53
Er, welcome to the wonderful world of US partisan politics?
Please tell me you're a fellow anti-partisan.
Absolutely! I judge on candidate stances and individual issues, not on who's a donkey and who's an elephant.
Er, welcome to the wonderful world of US partisan politics?
Yeah, that wonderful world makes me truly wonder what we'd be like if Hamilton, Franklin, and to a lesser extent Washington had their way at the first Continental Congress and got the amendment banning political parties ratified.If that bill came to the floor now, it'd probably be the most bipartisan NAY vote ever.
Kwangistar
16-05-2004, 02:02
I don't like partisanship. If the Republicans and Democrats switched stances, I'd vote Democrat. :wink:
The left leaning political parties, while subject to some change, tend to represent the things I believe in. I will, therefore, almost always vote for the same party. If their stances changed, then naturally, I would vote for the other party.
Yeah, that wonderful world makes me truly wonder what we'd be like if Hamilton, Franklin, and to a lesser extent Washington had their way at the first Continental Congress and got the amendment banning political parties ratified.
Hamilton? If I'm not mistaken it was Hamilton who is majorly responsible for bipartisan politics...Hamiltonians versus Jeffersonians. And Washington urged the nation to stay away from the idea of two powerful parties. So I'd put Washington instead of Hamilton.
Cuneo Island
16-05-2004, 02:19
That doesn't make sense.
How does it not make sense? Hamilton supported the philosophy of bipartisan politics...
Dragonhall
16-05-2004, 04:35
*smacks self in the head, a la Homer Simpson*
Forgive me, I kinda made my first post in a rush and didn't proof-read it, I ment to say Jefferson, rather than Hamilton.