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Do people not know how to spell?

Anglo-Scandinavia
15-05-2004, 10:38
I just wondered- do people nowadays (at least the ones who frequent the internet) not know how to spell or are they simply not bothered?

I know in many cases it's the former, mainly due to the fact that homonyms abound in the English language ('due' confused with 'do' seems to be a major culprit).
Reminder
15-05-2004, 10:39
It's a mixture of the two. Also, the two are combined by being ignorant, and too lazy to learn.
Monkeypimp
15-05-2004, 10:40
I am a resonable speller, but I'll be the first to admit I make fuck ups that seem obvious to other people quite a bit. If there is a word that I think I've obviously got wrong, I usually make the effort to look it up on dictionary.com but not always.
Colodia
15-05-2004, 10:40
I just wondered- do people nowadays (at least the ones who frequent the inteernet) not know how to spell or are they simply not bothered?

I know in many cases it's the former, mainly due to the fact that homonyms abound in the English language ('due' confused with 'do' seems to be a major culprit).

Anyways, it's basically the issue with typing I think. I'm a fast typer, so I am able to put my best grammer into my sentences easily. While others, do one paragraph an hour. Thus, they have less patience/will to correct themselves.


Although there may be other explanations
Anglo-Scandinavia
15-05-2004, 10:41
Good point. I had been thinking of laziness along the lines of "I can't be bothered to proofread this post" which results in mixed up letters and extra letters and stuff like that.
Roania
15-05-2004, 10:41
I really haven't noticed that many people messing up 'due', with 'do'. Just that one time, really. I have noticed a lot of idiots using 'leet' speak, or whatever the hell it's called, though.
Reminder
15-05-2004, 10:41
I'm a fast typer, so I am able to put my best grammer into my sentences easily.

It's spelt 'grammar'.

Plus, grammar and spelling are different things anyway.
Anglo-Scandinavia
15-05-2004, 10:42
I know I'm guilty of laziness of that sort but I meant really mangled stuff. And really blatant stuff.
Dezzan
15-05-2004, 10:42
I spell excellently - in RL.

However, on NS my spelling has gone a bit awry! I can only assume it is either because my fingers are dyslexic OR that i get so excited that i type too fast and things go wrong.

There's a psychological paper somewhere which shows that provided the beginning and the end of the word are what you expect then having wonky spelling in the middle doesn't make much difference.

Good thing too on NS :D
Monkeypimp
15-05-2004, 10:42
I just wondered- do people nowadays (at least the ones who frequent the inteernet) not know how to spell or are they simply not bothered?

I know in many cases it's the former, mainly due to the fact that homonyms abound in the English language ('due' confused with 'do' seems to be a major culprit).

Anyways, it's basically the issue with typing I think. I'm a fast typer, so I am able to put my best grammer into my sentences easily. While others, do one paragraph an hour. Thus, they have less patience/will to correct themselves.


Although there may be other explanations

Very Common.
Colodia
15-05-2004, 10:42
I really haven't noticed that many people messing up 'due', with 'do'. Just that one time, really. I have noticed a lot of idiots using 'leet' speak, or whatever the hell it's called, though.

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Anglo-Scandinavia
15-05-2004, 10:42
I really haven't noticed that many people messing up 'due', with 'do'. Just that one time, really. I have noticed a lot of idiots using 'leet' speak, or whatever the hell it's called, though.

Leetspeak irritates me too.
Roania
15-05-2004, 10:44
I really haven't noticed that many people messing up 'due', with 'do'. Just that one time, really. I have noticed a lot of idiots using 'leet' speak, or whatever the hell it's called, though.

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...yes, I actually can read it, Colodia. Remember how it used to be that a gentlemen was someone who could write poetry, but didn't?

Same type of situation, really.
Reminder
15-05-2004, 10:45
I usually only make mistakes due to typos - hitting the wrong keys. When I do spell something wrong I usually learn the new spelling straight away. I mean most words are less than 15 letters long or so, it's not like we're asking anyone to learn to spell 'pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcaniconiosis' or anything.
Anglo-Scandinavia
15-05-2004, 10:45
I spell excellently - in RL.

However, on NS my spelling has gone a bit awry! I can only assume it is either because my fingers are dyslexic OR that i get so excited that i type too fast and things go wrong.

There's a psychological paper somewhere which shows that provided the beginning and the end of the word are what you expect then having wonky spelling in the middle doesn't make much difference.


Its the pressure of forum typing- I think many people (including myself) tend to bash away at the keys and hit 'submit' before looking it over.

The 'myself' in the brackets was originally spelt 'myslef' :)
Dezzan
15-05-2004, 10:45
Those who are blind or partially sighted probably don't spell very well. We have a girl at college who has her forearms splinted a lot so she can't type. She talks into something which then puts her words on the screen - her spelling isn't too good either!

Personally i find being drunk is terrible for my spelling :wink:
Roania
15-05-2004, 10:45
Um... we're not asking people to spell what now? :shock:
Anglo-Scandinavia
15-05-2004, 10:46
pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcaniconiosis

The OED online doesn't have it listed as a word. Is it made up (I personally think so) or is it some really obscure scientific term?
15-05-2004, 10:46
I can not type near as fast as I think. I can't do it with pen and ink either.

Jim
Roania
15-05-2004, 10:47
pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcaniconiosis

Gesundheit.
Reminder
15-05-2004, 10:48
Um... we're not asking people to spell what now? :shock:

'pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcaniconiosis' you mean? it's a lung condition caused by the inhalation of microscopic silica particles I believe. Longest word in the oxford english dictionary. Beats runners up like 'antidisestablishmentarianism' easily.
Anglo-Scandinavia
15-05-2004, 10:49
I can not type near as fast as I think. I can't do it with pen and ink either.


For me it depends. I've got a couple of fiction works in progress on another forum and when I get into the zone on them, the words go straight from my brain to my fingers.
Stephistan
15-05-2004, 10:49
I think it's important to point out, we have players on Nationstates as young as 11. We have many players on Nationstates where English is not their first language. Some thing to think about.
Roania
15-05-2004, 10:50
Um... we're not asking people to spell what now? :shock:

'pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcaniconiosis' you mean? it's a lung condition caused by the inhalation of microscopic silica particles I believe. Longest word in the oxford english dictionary. Beats runners up like 'antidisestablishmentarianism' easily.

Which is being against the Queen stepping down as head of the Church of England.

One day, I will find out why people don't just use 'establishmentarianism'.
Anglo-Scandinavia
15-05-2004, 10:50
I think it's important to point out, we have players on Nationstates as young as 11. We have many players on Nationstates where English is not their fist language. Some thing to think about.

That is true. For the non-English speakers at least.

As for the eleven-year-olds, I blame the school system! :)
Reminder
15-05-2004, 10:51
Oh yeah, foreign people, and to a lesser degree kids are let off.

But I'm sure I could spell 'pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcaniconiosis' when I was 11.
The Atheists Reality
15-05-2004, 10:52
I think it's important to point out, we have players on Nationstates as young as 11. We have many players on Nationstates where English is not their first language. Some thing to think about.*supress the laughter, must supress the laughter* XD

edit was to fix a quote tag
Colodia
15-05-2004, 10:53
I think it's important to point out, we have players on Nationstates as young as 11. We have many players on Nationstates where English is not their first language. Some thing to think about.*supress the laughter, must supress the laughter* XD
Reminder
15-05-2004, 10:55
Oh yeah, foreign people, and to a lesser degree kids are let off.

But I'm sure I could spell 'pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcaniconiosis' when I was 11.

In fact, even one of my less able classmates who got an E in A-Level English could spell 'pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcaniconiosis' aged 11-12.
15-05-2004, 10:56
I think it's important to point out, we have players on Nationstates as young as 11. We have many players on Nationstates where English is not their first language. Some thing to think about.*supress the laughter, must supress the laughter* XD

edit was to fix a quote tag

gve ti pu rat. ko?

midje

:lol:
Stephistan
15-05-2004, 10:59
I think it's important to point out, we have players on Nationstates as young as 11. We have many players on Nationstates where English is not their first language. Some thing to think about.*supress the laughter, must supress the laughter* XD

edit was to fix a quote tag

....And then we have players who stay up all night when they should of went to bed hours ago..lol :P
Colodia
15-05-2004, 11:00
I think it's important to point out, we have players on Nationstates as young as 11. We have many players on Nationstates where English is not their fist language. Some thing to think about.*supress the laughter, must supress the laughter* XD

edit was to fix a quote tag

give it up rat. ok?

midjet

:lol:
oooooooooooooooo :shock: .....gonna take that?
The Most Glorious Hack
15-05-2004, 11:00
Um... we're not asking people to spell what now? :shock:

'pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcaniconiosis' you mean? it's a lung condition caused by the inhalation of microscopic silica particles I believe. Longest word in the oxford english dictionary. Beats runners up like 'antidisestablishmentarianism' easily.

Longest in the dictionary, sure, however there are longer words. Such words are insane proteins and such which are just words with more and more bits added on. The longest is a thousand-some letters long.

Ah! Found it!

ACETYL*SERYL*TYROSYL*SERYL*ISO*LEUCYL*THREONYL*SERYL*PRO-
LYL*SERYL*GLUTAMINYL*PHENYL*ALANYL*VALYL*PHENY*ALANY-
L*LEUCYL*SERYL*SERYL*VALYL*TRYPTOPHYL*ALANYL*ASPART
YL*PROLYL*ISOLEUCYL*GLUTAMYL*LEUCYL*LEUCYL*ASP
ARAGINYL*VALYL*CYSTEINYL*THREONYL*SERYL*SERYL*LEUCYL*GLYC
YL*ASPARAGINYL*GLUTAMINYL*PHENYL*ALANYL*GLUTAMINYL*
THREONYL*GLUTAMINYL*GLUTAMINYL*ALANYL*ARGINYL*THREONYL
THREONYL*GLUTAMINYL*VALYL*GLUTAMINYL*GLUTAMINYL*PHENY
L*ALANYL*SERYL*GLUTAMINYL*VALYL*TRYPTOPHYL*LYSYL*PROLY
L*PHENYL*ALANYL*PROLYL*GLUTAMINYL*SERYL*THREONYL*VALYL*AR
GINYL*PHENYL*ALANYL*PROLYL*GLYCYL*ASPARTYL*VALYL*TYROSY
L*LYSYL*VALYL*TYROSYL*ARGINYL*TYROSYL*ASPARAGINYL*ALANYL*V
ALYL*LEUCYL*ASPARTYL*PROLYL*LEUCYL*ISOLEUCYL*THREONYL*ALAN

= Tobacco Mosaic Virus, Dahlemense Strain.
This word has appeared in the American Chemical Society's Chemical Abstracts and is thus considered by some to be the longest real word.

1,185 letters long, and a virus. I was close.
Roania
15-05-2004, 11:02
Hack, that's scaring me. Make it go away.
Reminder
15-05-2004, 11:03
Yeah, if you want long chemical names, it's not too hard, just try it for DNA. Millions of letters I believe.
Petsburg
15-05-2004, 11:04
Im not too bad, but i do have dyslexia
Reminder
15-05-2004, 11:06
Im not too bad, but i do have dyslexia

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, dyslexic people are excused too.
Colodia
15-05-2004, 11:06
Um... we're not asking people to spell what now? :shock:

'pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcaniconiosis' you mean? it's a lung condition caused by the inhalation of microscopic silica particles I believe. Longest word in the oxford english dictionary. Beats runners up like 'antidisestablishmentarianism' easily.

Longest in the dictionary, sure, however there are longer words. Such words are insane proteins and such which are just words with more and more bits added on. The longest is a thousand-some letters long.

Ah! Found it!

ACETYL*SERYL*TYROSYL*SERYL*ISO*LEUCYL*THREONYL*SERYL*PRO-
LYL*SERYL*GLUTAMINYL*PHENYL*ALANYL*VALYL*PHENY*ALANY-
L*LEUCYL*SERYL*SERYL*VALYL*TRYPTOPHYL*ALANYL*ASPART
YL*PROLYL*ISODLEUCYL*GLUTAMYL*LEUCYL*LEUCYL*ASP
ARAGINYL*VALYL*CYSTEINYL*THREONYL*SERYL*SERYL*LEUCYL*GLYC
YL*ASPARAGINYL*GLUTAMINYL*PHENYL*ALANYL*GLUTAMINYL*
THREONYL*GLUTAMINYL*GLUTAMINYL*ALANYL*ARGINYL*THREONYL
THREONYL*GLUTAMINYL*VALYL*GLUTAMINYL*GLUTAMINYL*PHENY
L*ALANYL*SERYL*GLUTAMINYL*VALYL*TRYPTOPHYL*LYSYL*PROLY
L*PHENYL*ALANYL*PROLYL*GLUTAMINYL*SERYL*THREONYL*VALYL*AR
GINYL*PHENYL*ALANYL*PROLYL*GLYCYL*ASPARTYL*VALYL*TYROSY
L*LYSYL*VALYL*TYROSYL*ARGINYL*TYROSYL*ASPARAGINYL*ALANYL*V
ALYL*LEUCYL*ASPARTYL*PROLYL*LEUCYL*ISOLEUCYL*THREONYL*ALAN

= Tobacco Mosaic Virus, Dahlemense Strain.
This word has appeared in the American Chemical Society's Chemical Abstracts and is thus considered by some to be the longest real word.

1,185 letters long, and a virus. I was close.
Colodia Rules



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Colodia
15-05-2004, 11:07
Yeah, if you want long chemical names, it's not too hard, just try it for DNA. Millions of letters I believe.

deoxyribonucleic acid

Not that long
Reminder
15-05-2004, 11:08
Yeah, if you want long chemical names, it's not too hard, just try it for DNA. Millions of letters I believe.

deoxyribonucleic acid

Not that long

Not the general name, silly. The name describing the precise molecular structure of a given DNA molecule.
The Most Glorious Hack
15-05-2004, 11:08
Um... we're not asking people to spell what now? :shock:

'pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcaniconiosis' you mean? it's a lung condition caused by the inhalation of microscopic silica particles I believe. Longest word in the oxford english dictionary. Beats runners up like 'antidisestablishmentarianism' easily.

Longest in the dictionary, sure, however there are longer words. Such words are insane proteins and such which are just words with more and more bits added on. The longest is a thousand-some letters long.

Ah! Found it!

ACETYL*SERYL*TYROSYL*SERYL*ISO*LEUCYL*THREONYL*SERYL*PRO-
LYL*SERYL*GLUTAMINYL*PHENYL*ALANYL*VALYL*PHENY*ALANY-
L*LEUCYL*SERYL*SERYL*VALYL*TRYPTOPHYL*ALANYL*ASPART
YL*PROLYL*ISODLEUCYL*GLUTAMYL*LEUCYL*LEUCYL*ASP
ARAGINYL*VALYL*CYSTEINYL*THREONYL*SERYL*SERYL*LEUCYL*GLYC
YL*ASPARAGINYL*GLUTAMINYL*PHENYL*ALANYL*GLUTAMINYL*
THREONYL*GLUTAMINYL*GLUTAMINYL*ALANYL*ARGINYL*THREONYL
THREONYL*GLUTAMINYL*VALYL*GLUTAMINYL*GLUTAMINYL*PHENY
L*ALANYL*SERYL*GLUTAMINYL*VALYL*TRYPTOPHYL*LYSYL*PROLY
L*PHENYL*ALANYL*PROLYL*GLUTAMINYL*SERYL*THREONYL*VALYL*AR
GINYL*PHENYL*ALANYL*PROLYL*GLYCYL*ASPARTYL*VALYL*TYROSY
L*LYSYL*VALYL*TYROSYL*ARGINYL*TYROSYL*ASPARAGINYL*ALANYL*V
ALYL*LEUCYL*ASPARTYL*PROLYL*LEUCYL*ISOLEUCYL*THREONYL*ALAN

= Tobacco Mosaic Virus, Dahlemense Strain.
This word has appeared in the American Chemical Society's Chemical Abstracts and is thus considered by some to be the longest real word.

1,185 letters long, and a virus. I was close.
Colodia Rules



8)

Been reading The Bible Code, have we?
The Most Glorious Hack
15-05-2004, 11:10
Yeah, if you want long chemical names, it's not too hard, just try it for DNA. Millions of letters I believe.

deoxyribonucleic acid

Not that long

Not the general name, silly. The name describing the precise molecular structure of a given DNA molecule.

"Double-helix"?

Any particular section will just be a combination of two words. I don't think it ever gets that long.

Now, if you were to list all the pairs, in order, of a DNA strand, sure, that'd be huge, but it wouldn't really be a word.
Colodia
15-05-2004, 11:11
Um... we're not asking people to spell what now? :shock:

.

1,185 letters long, and a virus. I was close.
Colodia Rules



8)

Been reading The Bible Code, have we?

Nah, just getting high on COLODIA!
Reminder
15-05-2004, 11:12
Yeah, if you want long chemical names, it's not too hard, just try it for DNA. Millions of letters I believe.

deoxyribonucleic acid

Not that long

Not the general name, silly. The name describing the precise molecular structure of a given DNA molecule.

"Double-helix"?

Any particular section will just be a combination of two words. I don't think it ever gets that long.

Now, if you were to list all the pairs, in order, of a DNA strand, sure, that'd be huge, but it wouldn't really be a word.

Ok, well I thought a whole strand was a single molecule.

Something I read on another forum, can't remember how they worded it - was weeks ago.
Anglo-Scandinavia
15-05-2004, 11:18
Yes. It is scary.
Reminder
15-05-2004, 11:20
For all you long word fans, here's one completely unrelated to biochemistry:

Floccinaucinihilipilification - the estimation of something as worthless