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what kind of drugs are we talking about? :?

:roll: Not another one.

Everyone knows I'm totally anti drug...!!!! :!:

(OOC: Wink wink)

Im going with sometimes..

heated discussion? conflict of opinions? I make that Pimms o clock.


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:roll: Not another one.

Everyone knows I'm totally anti drug...!!!! :!:

(OOC: Wink wink)

This is general forum. Everything is out of character.

I take painkillers (Lortab and Tylenol 3 mainly) and tranquilizers (xanax and valium) a lot. Alcohol just about daily, if you are considering all drugs, not just narcotics. I smoke weed occasionally, but I don't like it much.

I prefer hydrocodone way more than the weak hallucinogen THC.

i've had some really, really, really, bad experiences with opium and LSD. but on a reular basis, i smoke cigarettes, and drink about every day. i also take zoloft

Zoloft. That's it.

Zoloft. That's it.

you too? 25, 50, 0r 100 mg? :D

Lets see here,, I often have a beer or 2, on weekends or night/days i dont got school the next day i can be found doing all sorts of good stuff including (all within the last month or so at least once) dxm, codiene (dont got easy access to clean opiates stronger), booze, weed. not that much i know. And before ya'll mock me about dxm being a cough syrop thingy,, it can be insane (note to everyone here, doing 2 4th plataue doses 2 nights in a row not a good idea,, unless ya have a couple days off afterwords)

Meh, I'm happy without an altered mind state (and the various health-hazards) of drugs, so I don't take 'em.

I guess it's true the implied concept of being unknown and unseen causes people to shed their inhabitions and say/'do' things they otherwise would not do. That is tings they would not do in the 'Real World'.

Zoloft. That's it.

you too? 25, 50, 0r 100 mg? :D

I used to take Zoloft (150 mg) Paxil (37.5 mg) and Strattera (100 mg) ALL AT THE SAME TIME! I was getting off the Paxil and switching onto Zoloft, and the side affects were freaky.

I don't drink, because I think it tastes too bitter. I don't smoke, because I'm asthmatic. I only do LSD once a month, and thats for artistic purposes.

Not that that makes it ok.

Whatever works for you.

Zoloft. That's it.

you too? 25, 50, 0r 100 mg? :D

I used to take Zoloft (150 mg) Paxil (37.5 mg) and Strattera (100 mg) ALL AT THE SAME TIME! I was getting off the Paxil and switching onto Zoloft, and the side affects were freaky.

I don't drink, because I think it tastes too bitter. I don't smoke, because I'm asthmatic. I only do LSD once a month, and thats for artistic purposes.

Not that that makes it ok.

Whatever works for you.
ah, lsd. i have taken some journeys on that stuff

Zoloft. That's it.

you too? 25, 50, 0r 100 mg? :D

I used to take Zoloft (150 mg) Paxil (37.5 mg) and Strattera (100 mg) ALL AT THE SAME TIME! I was getting off the Paxil and switching onto Zoloft, and the side affects were freaky.

I don't drink, because I think it tastes too bitter. I don't smoke, because I'm asthmatic. I only do LSD once a month, and thats for artistic purposes.

Not that that makes it ok.

Whatever works for you.
ah, lsd. i have taken some journeys on that stuff

I know. I saw everything through Photoshop filters once. Lense Flare got annoying fast.

I take drugs sometimes but football starts next week some this will probably be the last weekend I will for a long time

Zoloft. That's it.

you too? 25, 50, 0r 100 mg? :D

I used to take Zoloft (150 mg) Paxil (37.5 mg) and Strattera (100 mg) ALL AT THE SAME TIME! I was getting off the Paxil and switching onto Zoloft, and the side affects were freaky.

I don't drink, because I think it tastes too bitter. I don't smoke, because I'm asthmatic. I only do LSD once a month, and thats for artistic purposes.

Not that that makes it ok.

Whatever works for you.
ah, lsd. i have taken some journeys on that stuff

I know. I saw everything through Photoshop filters once. Lense Flare got annoying fast.

ever done opium? i halucinated i saw the creation of the universe

Zoloft. That's it.

you too? 25, 50, 0r 100 mg? :D

I used to take Zoloft (150 mg) Paxil (37.5 mg) and Strattera (100 mg) ALL AT THE SAME TIME! I was getting off the Paxil and switching onto Zoloft, and the side affects were freaky.

I don't drink, because I think it tastes too bitter. I don't smoke, because I'm asthmatic. I only do LSD once a month, and thats for artistic purposes.

Not that that makes it ok.

Whatever works for you.
ah, lsd. i have taken some journeys on that stuff

I know. I saw everything through Photoshop filters once. Lense Flare got annoying fast.

ever done opium? i halucinated i saw the creation of the universe

Once got some when the Gypsies were in town.

Did you know you can make a bong out of an apple? Gives it a whole new flavor. :)

Zoloft. That's it.

you too? 25, 50, 0r 100 mg? :D

I used to take Zoloft (150 mg) Paxil (37.5 mg) and Strattera (100 mg) ALL AT THE SAME TIME! I was getting off the Paxil and switching onto Zoloft, and the side affects were freaky.

I don't drink, because I think it tastes too bitter. I don't smoke, because I'm asthmatic. I only do LSD once a month, and thats for artistic purposes.

Not that that makes it ok.

Whatever works for you.
ah, lsd. i have taken some journeys on that stuff

I know. I saw everything through Photoshop filters once. Lense Flare got annoying fast.

ever done opium? i halucinated i saw the creation of the universe

Once got some when the Gypsies were in town.

Did you know you can make a bong out of an apple? Gives it a whole new flavor. :)
no, i did not. i dont do it any more though. i got so scared i almost had a heart attack

I take a few drugs now and then...

Mostly weed, mushrooms, coke on occassion, various opiates and opioids(sp?), mostly codeine and morphine, e, acid, stuff like that mainly.

On the other hand I haven't gotten high in like three weeks.

Zoloft. That's it.

you too? 25, 50, 0r 100 mg? :D

75g. 1 1/2 50gm tablets in the morning, with toast. :)

I take a few drugs now and then...

Mostly weed, mushrooms, coke on occassion, various opiates and opioids(sp?), mostly codeine and morphine, e, acid, stuff like that mainly.

On the other hand I haven't gotten high in like three weeks. dude, coke=not good at all

I take a few drugs now and then...

Mostly weed, mushrooms, coke on occassion, various opiates and opioids(sp?), mostly codeine and morphine, e, acid, stuff like that mainly.

On the other hand I haven't gotten high in like three weeks. dude, coke=not good at all

I once asked a druggie, why do you like cocaine?

He said, it sharpens your personality.

So I asked, "Well, what if you're an asshole?"

/Bill Cosby as Himself

Zoloft. That's it.

you too? 25, 50, 0r 100 mg? :D

75g. 1 1/2 50gm tablets in the morning, with toast. :) i love zoloft, in fact w00t!!! for zoloft!!! why do take it? my shrink gave it to me for depression, and its been working great

Zoloft. That's it.

you too? 25, 50, 0r 100 mg? :D

75g. 1 1/2 50gm tablets in the morning, with toast. :) i love zoloft, in fact w00t!!! for zoloft!!! why do take it? my shrink gave it to me for depression, and its been working great

hasn't really been working here. I'm on my third shrink now. My first disapeared without a trace, my second one was a moneyloving bastard, and my third one now is a pompous conceited buttplug.

And life's not that good on this end. Not your problem, though, don't worry. It's mostly because F*R*I*E*N*D*S is over :cry: .

Not really. I've never seen an episode of Friends or the Simpsons.

My parents are weird. They never let me see PG-13 movies till I was like, 13!

Zoloft. That's it.

you too? 25, 50, 0r 100 mg? :D

75g. 1 1/2 50gm tablets in the morning, with toast. :) i love zoloft, in fact w00t!!! for zoloft!!! why do take it? my shrink gave it to me for depression, and its been working great

hasn't really been working here. I'm on my third shrink now. My first disapeared without a trace, my second one was a moneyloving bastard, and my third one now is a pompous conceited buttplug.

And life's not that good on this end. Not your problem, though, don't worry. It's mostly because F*R*I*E*N*D*S is over :cry: .

Not really. I've never seen an episode of Friends or the Simpsons.

My parents are weird. They never let me see PG-13 movies till I was like, 13!

if you want to get a good grip on you life, go read a lovecraft book then smoke an assload of opium. that got me off of drugs for good. sorry about your shrinks running away :(

Zoloft. That's it.

you too? 25, 50, 0r 100 mg? :D

75g. 1 1/2 50gm tablets in the morning, with toast. :) i love zoloft, in fact w00t!!! for zoloft!!! why do take it? my shrink gave it to me for depression, and its been working great

hasn't really been working here. I'm on my third shrink now. My first disapeared without a trace, my second one was a moneyloving bastard, and my third one now is a pompous conceited buttplug.

And life's not that good on this end. Not your problem, though, don't worry. It's mostly because F*R*I*E*N*D*S is over :cry: .

Not really. I've never seen an episode of Friends or the Simpsons.

My parents are weird. They never let me see PG-13 movies till I was like, 13!

if you want to get a good grip on you life, go read a lovecraft book then smoke an assload of opium. that got me off of drugs for good. sorry about your shrinks running away :(

I think I scared them off picking my teeth with a switchblade :evil: What, they never seen that before :lol:

Zoloft. That's it.

you too? 25, 50, 0r 100 mg? :D

75g. 1 1/2 50gm tablets in the morning, with toast. :) i love zoloft, in fact w00t!!! for zoloft!!! why do take it? my shrink gave it to me for depression, and its been working great

hasn't really been working here. I'm on my third shrink now. My first disapeared without a trace, my second one was a moneyloving bastard, and my third one now is a pompous conceited buttplug.

And life's not that good on this end. Not your problem, though, don't worry. It's mostly because F*R*I*E*N*D*S is over :cry: .

Not really. I've never seen an episode of Friends or the Simpsons.

My parents are weird. They never let me see PG-13 movies till I was like, 13!

if you want to get a good grip on you life, go read a lovecraft book then smoke an assload of opium. that got me off of drugs for good. sorry about your shrinks running away :(

I think I scared them off picking my teeth with a switchblade :evil: What, they never seen that before :lol:

hehe, well. i guess nationstates is like a support group, no? this site has helped me alot

Yeah. Very therapeutic.

Kind of like streaking through a catholic school, wearing a cowboy hat and holding a bible over your crotch.

/True Story. My friend's brother did it.

//shudder

Yeah. Very therapeutic.

Kind of like streaking through a catholic school, wearing a cowboy hat and holding a bible over your crotch.

/True Story. My friend's brother did it.

//shudder BLARGH!!!

i like to be in control of myself and my immediate surroundings, so i never have and never will do drugs. plus, i have lots of things i save up for.

I take a few drugs now and then...

Mostly weed, mushrooms, coke on occassion, various opiates and opioids(sp?), mostly codeine and morphine, e, acid, stuff like that mainly.

On the other hand I haven't gotten high in like three weeks. dude, coke=not good at all

Coke, where I live isn't too bad because it's so expensive and hard that you can never get enough to have any problems, you budget it out all night at a party, doing a few bumps every few hours. Or you make cocopuffs.

It's not something I plan on doing much longer though, too much money.

Just to get an idea, how much do you get them for? I would never touch the stuff myself, it scares me a lot... :o

I take a few drugs now and then...

Mostly weed, mushrooms, coke on occassion, various opiates and opioids(sp?), mostly codeine and morphine, e, acid, stuff like that mainly.

On the other hand I haven't gotten high in like three weeks. dude, coke=not good at all

Coke, where I live isn't too bad because it's so expensive and hard that you can never get enough to have any problems, you budget it out all night at a party, doing a few bumps every few hours. Or you make cocopuffs.

It's not something I plan on doing much longer though, too much money.

sorry, but that and heroin are the two things that no one should ever do, no matter what

Never have, never will.

never have- don't know if I will or not
I don't really have a personal issue with it- other than the whole losing control of yourself, etc...I like to be in control and know what's going on-
I'm just afraid of legal stuff. i have big plans- stuff I want to do a lot more than drugs, and if I got caught, it would mess those plans up and for what?
Nothing I cared about...

One of the things I will always remember is going to Jamaica and visiting Bob Marley's grave. I came. I saw. I smoked. If there was a time when I was closest to having a spiritual experience, that was it. Just me, other... people, the music, the quiet...

*shudders, but in a good way.*

Yeah. Very therapeutic.

Kind of like streaking through a catholic school, wearing a cowboy hat and holding a bible over your crotch.

/True Story. My friend's brother did it.

//shudder

Give me ideas then... :)

I take a few drugs now and then...

Mostly weed, mushrooms, coke on occassion, various opiates and opioids(sp?), mostly codeine and morphine, e, acid, stuff like that mainly.

On the other hand I haven't gotten high in like three weeks. dude, coke=not good at all

Coke, where I live isn't too bad because it's so expensive and hard that you can never get enough to have any problems, you budget it out all night at a party, doing a few bumps every few hours. Or you make cocopuffs.

It's not something I plan on doing much longer though, too much money.

sorry, but that and heroin are the two things that no one should ever do, no matter what

Heroin is a commonly used drug in hospitals.

I take a few drugs now and then...

Mostly weed, mushrooms, coke on occassion, various opiates and opioids(sp?), mostly codeine and morphine, e, acid, stuff like that mainly.

On the other hand I haven't gotten high in like three weeks. dude, coke=not good at all

Coke, where I live isn't too bad because it's so expensive and hard that you can never get enough to have any problems, you budget it out all night at a party, doing a few bumps every few hours. Or you make cocopuffs.

It's not something I plan on doing much longer though, too much money.

sorry, but that and heroin are the two things that no one should ever do, no matter what

Heroin is a commonly used drug in hospitals.
heroin itself isnt, but more powerful and weaker synthetic opiates are (such as morphine, oxycontin, novacaine, etc.)

I take a few drugs now and then...

Mostly weed, mushrooms, coke on occassion, various opiates and opioids(sp?), mostly codeine and morphine, e, acid, stuff like that mainly.

On the other hand I haven't gotten high in like three weeks. dude, coke=not good at all

Coke, where I live isn't too bad because it's so expensive and hard that you can never get enough to have any problems, you budget it out all night at a party, doing a few bumps every few hours. Or you make cocopuffs.

It's not something I plan on doing much longer though, too much money.

sorry, but that and heroin are the two things that no one should ever do, no matter what

Heroin is a commonly used drug in hospitals.

Dude, so is morphine. But that stuff just doesn't make you think, it knocks you out. Heroin is just to Dangerous! It's like crack. Look what it did to Nick Mason, Kurt Cobain, Jim Morrison, there all dead our too messed up they might as well be. Come on man. Think!

I take a few drugs now and then...

Mostly weed, mushrooms, coke on occassion, various opiates and opioids(sp?), mostly codeine and morphine, e, acid, stuff like that mainly.

On the other hand I haven't gotten high in like three weeks. dude, coke=not good at all

Coke, where I live isn't too bad because it's so expensive and hard that you can never get enough to have any problems, you budget it out all night at a party, doing a few bumps every few hours. Or you make cocopuffs.

It's not something I plan on doing much longer though, too much money.

sorry, but that and heroin are the two things that no one should ever do, no matter what

Heroin is a commonly used drug in hospitals.

Dude, so is morphine. But that stuff just doesn't make you think, it knocks you out. Heroin is just to Dangerous! It's like crack. Look what it did to Nick Mason, Kurt Cobain, Jim Morrison, there all dead our too messed up they might as well be. Come on man. Think!

I take a few drugs now and then...

Mostly weed, mushrooms, coke on occassion, various opiates and opioids(sp?), mostly codeine and morphine, e, acid, stuff like that mainly.

On the other hand I haven't gotten high in like three weeks. dude, coke=not good at all

Coke, where I live isn't too bad because it's so expensive and hard that you can never get enough to have any problems, you budget it out all night at a party, doing a few bumps every few hours. Or you make cocopuffs.

It's not something I plan on doing much longer though, too much money.

sorry, but that and heroin are the two things that no one should ever do, no matter what

Heroin is a commonly used drug in hospitals.
heroin itself isnt, but more powerful and weaker synthetic opiates are (such as morphine, oxycontin, novacaine, etc.)

You're mistaken. Diamorphine is the name for medical heroin. Additionally morphine isn't a sythetic opiate, it's a naturally occuring component of opium. Diamorphine/heroin is created by the acetylization of morphine and therefore is a semi-synthetic opioid.

Heroin = diamorphine = diacetylmorphine.

I take a few drugs now and then...

Mostly weed, mushrooms, coke on occassion, various opiates and opioids(sp?), mostly codeine and morphine, e, acid, stuff like that mainly.

On the other hand I haven't gotten high in like three weeks. dude, coke=not good at all

Coke, where I live isn't too bad because it's so expensive and hard that you can never get enough to have any problems, you budget it out all night at a party, doing a few bumps every few hours. Or you make cocopuffs.

It's not something I plan on doing much longer though, too much money.

sorry, but that and heroin are the two things that no one should ever do, no matter what

Heroin is a commonly used drug in hospitals.

Dude, so is morphine. But that stuff just doesn't make you think, it knocks you out. Heroin is just to Dangerous! It's like crack. Look what it did to Nick Mason, Kurt Cobain, Jim Morrison, there all dead our too messed up they might as well be. Come on man. Think!

Crack is alot worse then heroin, addictiveness wise. Heroin has worse withdrawl symptoms, but crack is more overall addictive.

Regardless, I don't do heroin so it's a non-issue.

and shouldn't be used outside a hospital.

crack,coke,heroin=very bad stuff, again. nobody should do these

EDIT: oh yeah, and pcp

and shouldn't be used outside a hospital.

Perhaps, but most of the problems associated with drug abuse stem from drug prohibition, not from the drugs themselves.

and shouldn't be used outside a hospital.

Perhaps, but most of the problems associated with drug abuse stem from drug prohibition, not from the drugs themselves.

Most. I believe those with heroin and cocaine and it's many refinations are an exception.

I take a few drugs now and then...

Mostly weed, mushrooms, coke on occassion, various opiates and opioids(sp?), mostly codeine and morphine, e, acid, stuff like that mainly.

On the other hand I haven't gotten high in like three weeks. dude, coke=not good at all

Coke, where I live isn't too bad because it's so expensive and hard that you can never get enough to have any problems, you budget it out all night at a party, doing a few bumps every few hours. Or you make cocopuffs.

It's not something I plan on doing much longer though, too much money.

sorry, but that and heroin are the two things that no one should ever do, no matter what

Heroin is a commonly used drug in hospitals.
heroin itself isnt, but more powerful and weaker synthetic opiates are (such as morphine, oxycontin, novacaine, etc.)

You're mistaken. Diamorphine is the name for medical heroin. Additionally morphine isn't a sythetic opiate, it's a naturally occuring component of opium. Diamorphine/heroin is created by the acetylization of morphine and therefore is a semi-synthetic opioid.

Heroin = diamorphine = diacetylmorphine.
Never mind my bad heroin is diacetylmorphine, but i still dont think diacetyl is used in hospitals'. And it is a synthetic opiate, it may be a direct opiate derivative, but thats what diferentiates the syn. opiates from the opiods.

and shouldn't be used outside a hospital.

Perhaps, but most of the problems associated with drug abuse stem from drug prohibition, not from the drugs themselves.

we are talking about certain drugs that can kill you the first time you use them, yes?

crack,coke,heroin=very bad stuff, again. nobody should do these

EDIT: oh yeah, and pcp

PCP is evil.

Meth binging and coke binging are really bad practises. There's a big difference between doing it in controlled amounts and taking huge amounts for days on end.

A rail of speed can keep you up to study. A binge will leave you flipping out on someone's front lawn screaming about how they spy on you.

A line of coke can make you more talkative without turning into a stupid, slurring drunk. A binge will be basically the same as a speed binge, but way more expensive.

Crack is the other evil drug, IMO.

crack,coke,heroin=very bad stuff, again. nobody should do these

EDIT: oh yeah, and pcp

PCP is evil.

Meth binging and coke binging are really bad practises. There's a big difference between doing it in controlled amounts and taking huge amounts for days on end.

A rail of speed can keep you up to study. A binge will leave you flipping out on someone's front lawn screaming about how they spy on you.

A line of coke can make you more talkative without turning into a stupid, slurring drunk. A binge will be basically the same as a speed binge, but way more expensive.

Crack is the other evil drug, IMO.

i saw someone slash a bunch of peoples throats in a club when he was high pn pcp. oh yeah, ecstasy is bad too

crack,coke,heroin=very bad stuff, again. nobody should do these

EDIT: oh yeah, and pcp

PCP is evil.

Meth binging and coke binging are really bad practises. There's a big difference between doing it in controlled amounts and taking huge amounts for days on end.

A rail of speed can keep you up to study. A binge will leave you flipping out on someone's front lawn screaming about how they spy on you.

A line of coke can make you more talkative without turning into a stupid, slurring drunk. A binge will be basically the same as a speed binge, but way more expensive.

Crack is the other evil drug, IMO.
Crack is a base form of Coke/cocaine, so dont bad mouth crack and praise coke, simply coke is for lines, cocaine is for injection, and crack is basified with baking soda for smoking.
But PCP and K can be very useful drugs, when taken in a controlled situation and amounts (especially when the amount is known, and the person knows what to expect)
and 'e' is a fucking nice drug when done with friends with music. The fact that most deaths from it results from people over hydrating themselves, reminds me of their own stupidity, or buying from ppl ya dont know and getting impure/bad shit is another part of that

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh Drogen, die wir arevery Schlechtes für Sie nicht Sie kennen und Sie sollten sie, zu nehmen stoppen, wenn Sie noch tun und oder, wenn Sie sie... der Anschlag tun, der EM nimmt :evil:

Never mind my bad heroin is diacetylmorphine, but i still dont think diacetyl is used in hospitals'. And it is a synthetic opiate, it may be a direct opiate derivative, but thats what diferentiates the syn. opiates from the opiods.

Heroin was the drug that British doctor/murderer used on all of his victims.

My friend was on a diamorphine drip when he was 11 because he had a molotov cocktail thrown at him by his crazy step-brother.

and shouldn't be used outside a hospital.

Perhaps, but most of the problems associated with drug abuse stem from drug prohibition, not from the drugs themselves.

we are talking about certain drugs that can kill you the first time you use them, yes?

I've never heard of someone ODing on coke their first time.

As for heroin, if you bought it from the drug store it would have instructions on it, there would be far less chance of messing yourself up with it.

No matter what, most drugs, the first time people try them they do them with other people. Maybe if you handed someone a needle or a pipe and some heroin and told them to go nuts they would die.

Never mind my bad heroin is diacetylmorphine, but i still dont think diacetyl is used in hospitals'. And it is a synthetic opiate, it may be a direct opiate derivative, but thats what diferentiates the syn. opiates from the opiods.

Heroin was the drug that British doctor/murderer used on all of his victims.

My friend was on a diamorphine drip when he was 11 because he had a molotov cocktail thrown at him by his crazy step-brother.

and shouldn't be used outside a hospital.

Perhaps, but most of the problems associated with drug abuse stem from drug prohibition, not from the drugs themselves.

we are talking about certain drugs that can kill you the first time you use them, yes?

I've never heard of someone ODing on coke their first time.

As for heroin, if you bought it from the drug store it would have instructions on it, there would be far less chance of messing yourself up with it.

No matter what, most drugs, the first time people try them they do them with other people. Maybe if you handed someone a needle or a pipe and some heroin and told them to go nuts they would die.

and shouldn't be used outside a hospital.

Perhaps, but most of the problems associated with drug abuse stem from drug prohibition, not from the drugs themselves.

we are talking about certain drugs that can kill you the first time you use them, yes?

I've never heard of someone ODing on coke their first time.

As for heroin, if you bought it from the drug store it would have instructions on it, there would be far less chance of messing yourself up with it.

No matter what, most drugs, the first time people try them they do them with other people. Maybe if you handed someone a needle or a pipe and some heroin and told them to go nuts they would die.
exstacy(sp?) can kill you the first time, so can cocke and heroin. you dont have to OD to die on coke, it can give you a heart attack

Never mind my bad heroin is diacetylmorphine, but i still dont think diacetyl is used in hospitals'. And it is a synthetic opiate, it may be a direct opiate derivative, but thats what diferentiates the syn. opiates from the opiods.

Heroin was the drug that British doctor/murderer used on all of his victims.

My friend was on a diamorphine drip when he was 11 because he had a molotov cocktail thrown at him by his crazy step-brother.

shows how much i know than, oh well,, it could also be different out here (im assuming your not in canada, and if ya are, i guess im wrong and didnt know right) is there a polymerized form of morphine called diamorphine as well? or is that dimorphine?

and shouldn't be used outside a hospital.

Perhaps, but most of the problems associated with drug abuse stem from drug prohibition, not from the drugs themselves.

we are talking about certain drugs that can kill you the first time you use them, yes?

I've never heard of someone ODing on coke their first time.

As for heroin, if you bought it from the drug store it would have instructions on it, there would be far less chance of messing yourself up with it.

No matter what, most drugs, the first time people try them they do them with other people. Maybe if you handed someone a needle or a pipe and some heroin and told them to go nuts they would die.
exstacy(sp?) can kill you the first time, so can cocke and heroin. you dont have to OD to die on coke, it can give you a heart attack

lol anything can kill ya your first try. EVEN COffee its called overdose. If people wherent stupid and either took more than they could handle, or freaked out, its their own damn fault for not knowing what they where getting into. And yes part of that is the dealers fault who cut the drugs with idiotic things that are either poisons or can form poisons in the body.

and shouldn't be used outside a hospital.

Perhaps, but most of the problems associated with drug abuse stem from drug prohibition, not from the drugs themselves.

we are talking about certain drugs that can kill you the first time you use them, yes?

I've never heard of someone ODing on coke their first time.

As for heroin, if you bought it from the drug store it would have instructions on it, there would be far less chance of messing yourself up with it.

No matter what, most drugs, the first time people try them they do them with other people. Maybe if you handed someone a needle or a pipe and some heroin and told them to go nuts they would die.
exstacy(sp?) can kill you the first time, so can cocke and heroin. you dont have to OD to die on coke, it can give you a heart attack

lol anything can kill ya your first try. EVEN COffee its called overdose. If people wherent stupid and either took more than they could handle, or freaked out, its their own damn fault for not knowing what they where getting into. And yes part of that is the dealers fault who cut the drugs with idiotic things that are either poisons or can form poisons in the body.

well, drugs are poisons, so....

and shouldn't be used outside a hospital.

Perhaps, but most of the problems associated with drug abuse stem from drug prohibition, not from the drugs themselves.

we are talking about certain drugs that can kill you the first time you use them, yes?

I've never heard of someone ODing on coke their first time.

As for heroin, if you bought it from the drug store it would have instructions on it, there would be far less chance of messing yourself up with it.

No matter what, most drugs, the first time people try them they do them with other people. Maybe if you handed someone a needle or a pipe and some heroin and told them to go nuts they would die.
exstacy(sp?) can kill you the first time, so can cocke and heroin. you dont have to OD to die on coke, it can give you a heart attack

lol anything can kill ya your first try. EVEN COffee its called overdose. If people wherent stupid and either took more than they could handle, or freaked out, its their own damn fault for not knowing what they where getting into. And yes part of that is the dealers fault who cut the drugs with idiotic things that are either poisons or can form poisons in the body.

well, drugs are poisons, so....

umm no. Drugs simply effect neurotransmittors within the brain stimulating or repressing them due to similar size/shape/chemical makeup to the chemicals that normally fit in those receptors. Will in high doses a recreational used drug can be called a poison, so can most commonly used foods. (Salt can cause chloride and bromide poisoning at high doses for example, yet people need salt to live)

and shouldn't be used outside a hospital.

Perhaps, but most of the problems associated with drug abuse stem from drug prohibition, not from the drugs themselves.

we are talking about certain drugs that can kill you the first time you use them, yes?

I've never heard of someone ODing on coke their first time.

As for heroin, if you bought it from the drug store it would have instructions on it, there would be far less chance of messing yourself up with it.

No matter what, most drugs, the first time people try them they do them with other people. Maybe if you handed someone a needle or a pipe and some heroin and told them to go nuts they would die.
exstacy(sp?) can kill you the first time, so can cocke and heroin. you dont have to OD to die on coke, it can give you a heart attack

lol anything can kill ya your first try. EVEN COffee its called overdose. If people wherent stupid and either took more than they could handle, or freaked out, its their own damn fault for not knowing what they where getting into. And yes part of that is the dealers fault who cut the drugs with idiotic things that are either poisons or can form poisons in the body.

well, drugs are poisons, so....

umm no. Drugs simply effect neurotransmittors within the brain stimulating or repressing them due to similar size/shape/chemical makeup to the chemicals that normally fit in those receptors. Will in high doses a recreational used drug can be called a poison, so can most commonly used foods. (Salt can cause chloride and bromide poisoning at high doses for example, yet people need salt to live)

they still can cause long term damage but i dont want to argue

Zoloft. That's it.

you too? 25, 50, 0r 100 mg? :D

I used to take Zoloft (150 mg) Paxil (37.5 mg) and Strattera (100 mg) ALL AT THE SAME TIME! I was getting off the Paxil and switching onto Zoloft, and the side affects were freaky.

I don't drink, because I think it tastes too bitter. I don't smoke, because I'm asthmatic. I only do LSD once a month, and thats for artistic purposes.

Not that that makes it ok.

Whatever works for you.
ah, lsd. i have taken some journeys on that stuff

I know. I saw everything through Photoshop filters once. Lense Flare got annoying fast.


ever done opium? i halucinated i saw the creation of the universe

sweet! thats awsome man. i wish i seen the creation of the universe...

smoke cigs and ive done weed twice.

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they still can cause long term damage but i dont want to argue

long term damage doesnt define a poison, but nonetheless, alot of things cause long term damage in one way or another, so that definition doesnt really fit (i know ya dont wanna argue,but its a pet peeve of mine of sorts i would say, and its for other ppl's info if they want it)

Zoloft. That's it.

you too? 25, 50, 0r 100 mg? :D

I used to take Zoloft (150 mg) Paxil (37.5 mg) and Strattera (100 mg) ALL AT THE SAME TIME! I was getting off the Paxil and switching onto Zoloft, and the side affects were freaky.

I don't drink, because I think it tastes too bitter. I don't smoke, because I'm asthmatic. I only do LSD once a month, and thats for artistic purposes.

Not that that makes it ok.

Whatever works for you.
ah, lsd. i have taken some journeys on that stuff

I know. I saw everything through Photoshop filters once. Lense Flare got annoying fast.


ever done opium? i halucinated i saw the creation of the universe

sweet! thats awsome man. i wish i seen the creation of the universe...

smoke cigs and ive done weed twice.

uh, hehe. if you ever decide to try it, use EXTREME CAUTION

Never mind my bad heroin is diacetylmorphine, but i still dont think diacetyl is used in hospitals'. And it is a synthetic opiate, it may be a direct opiate derivative, but thats what diferentiates the syn. opiates from the opiods.

Heroin was the drug that British doctor/murderer used on all of his victims.

My friend was on a diamorphine drip when he was 11 because he had a molotov cocktail thrown at him by his crazy step-brother.

shows how much i know than, oh well,, it could also be different out here (im assuming your not in canada, and if ya are, i guess im wrong and didnt know right) is there a polymerized form of morphine called diamorphine as well? or is that dimorphine?

I am indeed Canadian. :p

To Greater Valia:

The majority of ecstacy deaths were a result of the person taking PMA, which is a analogue of MDMA, which is less potent in all ways except it's effects on the ability to control body-temperature.

Most other E deaths are because the person doesn't drink enough water.

Again, education and legalizing would solve most of those problems.

Never mind my bad heroin is diacetylmorphine, but i still dont think diacetyl is used in hospitals'. And it is a synthetic opiate, it may be a direct opiate derivative, but thats what diferentiates the syn. opiates from the opiods.

Heroin was the drug that British doctor/murderer used on all of his victims.

My friend was on a diamorphine drip when he was 11 because he had a molotov cocktail thrown at him by his crazy step-brother.

shows how much i know than, oh well,, it could also be different out here (im assuming your not in canada, and if ya are, i guess im wrong and didnt know right) is there a polymerized form of morphine called diamorphine as well? or is that dimorphine?

I am indeed Canadian. :p

To Greater Valia:

The majority of ecstacy deaths were a result of the person taking PMA, which is a analogue of MDMA, which is less potent in all ways except it's effects on the ability to control body-temperature.

Most other E deaths are because the person doesn't drink enough water.

Again, education and legalizing would solve most of those problems.
To play devils advocate so to speak here. What about the fact that MDA which is both a precursor and a possible metabolite (albiet in extremely small amounts) of MDMA is an extremely toxic neurotoxin, harmless to the rest of the body, and usually absorbs more readily into the rest of the body but nonetheless

of course i do, and we all do, routinely.

caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, analgesics: acetominophen, asprin, ibuprophren(?), motrin, etc.....

what a silly question...

now if he asked about pharmaceuticals illicit in america then this would have been a different poll.

Zoloft. That's it.

you too? 25, 50, 0r 100 mg? :D

I used to take Zoloft (150 mg) Paxil (37.5 mg) and Strattera (100 mg) ALL AT THE SAME TIME! I was getting off the Paxil and switching onto Zoloft, and the side affects were freaky.

I don't drink, because I think it tastes too bitter. I don't smoke, because I'm asthmatic. I only do LSD once a month, and thats for artistic purposes.

Not that that makes it ok.

Whatever works for you.
ah, lsd. i have taken some journeys on that stuff

I know. I saw everything through Photoshop filters once. Lense Flare got annoying fast.


ever done opium? i halucinated i saw the creation of the universe

sweet! thats awsome man. i wish i seen the creation of the universe...

smoke cigs and ive done weed twice.

uh, hehe. if you ever decide to try it, use EXTREME CAUTION

What he said. :wink:

i wont. i dont and wont do hard drugs. not in my agenda.

Never mind my bad heroin is diacetylmorphine, but i still dont think diacetyl is used in hospitals'. And it is a synthetic opiate, it may be a direct opiate derivative, but thats what diferentiates the syn. opiates from the opiods.

Heroin was the drug that British doctor/murderer used on all of his victims.

My friend was on a diamorphine drip when he was 11 because he had a molotov cocktail thrown at him by his crazy step-brother.

shows how much i know than, oh well,, it could also be different out here (im assuming your not in canada, and if ya are, i guess im wrong and didnt know right) is there a polymerized form of morphine called diamorphine as well? or is that dimorphine?

I am indeed Canadian. :p

To Greater Valia:

The majority of ecstacy deaths were a result of the person taking PMA, which is a analogue of MDMA, which is less potent in all ways except it's effects on the ability to control body-temperature.

Most other E deaths are because the person doesn't drink enough water.

Again, education and legalizing would solve most of those problems.
To play devils advocate so to speak here. What about the fact that MDA which is both a precursor and a possible metabolite (albiet in extremely small amounts) of MDMA is an extremely toxic neurotoxin, harmless to the rest of the body, and usually absorbs more readily into the rest of the body but nonetheless

I believe you are again mistaken:

MDA(Methylenedioxyamphetamine) is a related drug to MDMA(Methylenedioxymethamphetamine). They have similar effects, although MDMA has a shorter duration.

Overall they are similar drugs with similar effects.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mda/mda.shtml
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma.shtml

PS: Oxymethamphetimines are much different from methaphetimine. OMAs are seritonin affecting drugs that make people happy and lovey with low risk of addiction. MAs are known for addictiveness and antisocial behavior.