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seriously, this isn't to brag, but how many nations has the US defeated

I know these ones

UK
france
Mexico
Spain
Germany
Austria
Italy
Japan
N.Korea
China
and Iraq

which ones am I leaving out?

Defeated how? Not war, so???

Well you might as well take out Iraq as it is dragging on and I have my doubts that major combat is over, but do not forget Afganistan and ousting the Taliban.
And I guess we don't own those nations so, gone to war with but had a victory over them to a certain extent.

You must have an incredibly small penis, to have to post this nonsense.

Additionally, I don't think we've "defeated" Iraq, China, North Korea, Mexico, France or Spain. And the others are highly debatable "victories".

I dont understand, which of those did the US defeat? certainly not Iraq...when did you defeat Germany?

I dont understand, which of those did the US defeat? certainly not Iraq...when did you defeat Germany?

Well, I'm thinking maybe he's talking about sports of some kind and not war.. Because if he's trying to imply war.. he's on drugs.. :shock:

I dont understand, which of those did the US defeat? certainly not Iraq...when did you defeat Germany?

Well, I'm thinking maybe he's talking about sports of some kind and not war.. Because if he's trying to imply war.. he's on drugs.. :shock:

Wait, The War On Drugs. We won that one as well, right?

I dont understand, which of those did the US defeat? certainly not Iraq...when did you defeat Germany?

Well, I'm thinking maybe he's talking about sports of some kind and not war.. Because if he's trying to imply war.. he's on drugs.. :shock:

Wait, The War On Drugs. We won that one as well, right?

Nope, you lost that one too.

I dont understand, which of those did the US defeat? certainly not Iraq...when did you defeat Germany?

Well, I'm thinking maybe he's talking about sports of some kind and not war.. Because if he's trying to imply war.. he's on drugs.. :shock:

Wait, The War On Drugs. We won that one as well, right?

Haha, umm sorry, no, no you didn't.. ;)

When did the US beat China? And when did they beat N. Korea? The war is technically not over on the Korean Penninsula, so no one has won.

Spain?! - unless you lump them in with Mexico i guess.

Well you might as well take out Iraq as it is dragging on.

I know, but we did defeat the Iraqi military (the best arab army, God I'd hate to see the bad ones) though so far we're loosing the peace

when did you defeat Germany?

WW I?

WW II?

Ifracombe and Stephistan, you two need to stop upsetting my world view!

*sigh* Life was so much better when I could blindly trust that my country's leaders had my best interests at heart.

seriously, this isn't to brag, but how many nations has the US defeated

I know these ones

UK, france, Mexico, Spain, Germany, Austria, Italy, JapanN.,Korea, Chinaand, Iraq

which ones am I leaving out?

Hmmmm...... Do you think this is some sort of accomplishment? "Wow! We are powerful and have conquered so many countries!" Now personally, I think that is disgusting. We boast about how many countries the US has defeted? It is sick!

when did you defeat Germany?

WW I?

No, it was too little too late, you contributed minimally to that one

WW II?

OK, yeah, I admit it you were desicive in that one.

No excuse for being late though.

I'll try to be impartial...

UK- War of Independence (won), War of 1812(draw)

France- News to me...

Mexico- Mexican-American War (1840s I believe) (won)

Spain- Spanish-American War (won)

Germany- WWI (won, but only after we joined in year 3 of 4); WWII (won, joined in second year on Allied side)

Austria- WWI (won, even though we never fought them)

Italy- WWII (won)

Japan- WWII (won)

N.Korea- Korean War (Draw)

China- Korean War (Draw)

Iraq- Gulf War (technically a 'win', though a pointless one); 2003 Smack Down AKA 2nd Gulf War (won, even though were going to be stuck there for awhile)

when did you defeat Germany?

WW I?

WW II?

I'm sorry, but when numerous countries worked together it does not count as a US win...

when did you defeat Germany?

WW I?

No, it was too little too late, you contributed minimally to that one

WW II?

OK, yeah, I admit it you were desicive in that one.

No excuse for being late though.

For being late? We weren't late, ya know why? It wasn't our war until Japan attacked us.

When did the US beat China? And when did they beat N. Korea? The war is technically not over on the Korean Penninsula, so no one has won.

finally, a good argument

Spain?! - unless you lump them in with Mexico i guess.

but then you had to go and do that - it was called the spanish-American war, and we won!

I wouldn't include the war of independence, since the USA did not exist until afterwards.

However, you can add Panama (1989) to your list.

Personally, the United States Government makes me sick. They corrupt us from childhood. They outlaw things that are perfectly......Dumb. For example:
A law in Denver Colorado:
It is unlawful to lend your vacuum cleaner to your next-door neighbor.

Stupid or what? So why take any pride in our country taking over other countries? We will just make them conform to our "American Norm."

Even though N. Korea technically is a draw, we still repelled them out of S. Korea and have kept them out.

I wouldn't include the war of independence, since the USA did not exist until afterwards.

However, you can add Panama (1989) to your list.

Wasn't Panama just the US attacking the country because they're a-holes?

Hmmmm...... Do you think this is some sort of accomplishment? "Wow! We are powerful and have conquered so many countries!" Now personally, I think that is disgusting. We boast about how many countries the US has defeted? It is sick!

yes, yes it is

the ability of the American people to win wars, and provide security for themselves and their allies is the reason we are the greatest nation in the history of mankind

its quite an accomplishment

I wouldn't include the war of independence, since the USA did not exist until afterwards.

However, you can add Panama (1989) to your list.

Wasn't Panama just the US attacking the country because ther're a-holes?

Maybe Panama was attacking us because we are aholes?

Personally, the United States Government makes me sick. They corrupt us from childhood. They outlaw things that are perfectly......Dumb. For example:
A law in Denver Colorado:
It is unlawful to lend your vacuum cleaner to your next-door neighbor.

Stupid or what? So why take any pride in our country taking over other countries? We will just make them conform to our "American Norm."

Wow, your the biggest idiot I've ever seen. Do you know how easy it would be for me to find a stupid law in any country in Europe? Do you honestly think they care if you lend a vacumm cleaner to your neighbor?

America had a considerable effect on the outcome of WWI. Germany knew they couldn't win once the American war effort got on its feet and the doughboys started arriving en masse. Thats what their last great push was about, when they took all their veterans from the Eastern Front and threw them at France in a last ditch effort to beat them.

I consider WWII a 'win' for the United States, just as it was a 'win' for the Soviets, the British, French, Brazilians, and whoever else jumped on the band wagon. They were all on the Allied Side and collectivly beat the Axis, so its a scratch on the proverbial gun for all of them.

I'm sorry, but when numerous countries worked together it does not count as a US win...

would they have won without us?

Wasn't Panama just the US attacking the country because they're a-holes?

yes, I'm sure thats it

I'm sure it had nothing to do with human rights abuses, international money laundering and a government sponsored drug trade

I'm sorry, but when numerous countries worked together it does not count as a US win...

would they have won without us?

Against Germany? Yes. THey kind of screwed themselves near the end, did they not?

Hmmmm...... Do you think this is some sort of accomplishment? "Wow! We are powerful and have conquered so many countries!" Now personally, I think that is disgusting. We boast about how many countries the US has defeted? It is sick!

yes, yes it is

the ability of the American people to win wars, and provide security for themselves and their allies is the reason we are the greatest nation in the history of mankind

its quite an accomplishment


Yes yes! We are quite a country!! Who wouldn't be proud to live in a place that was built from the blood of thousands? Who wouldn't be proud to live in a place where we have the most AMAZING president who is attacking Iraq for oil?

Me.

:oops:

Wasn't Panama just the US attacking the country because they're a-holes?

yes, I'm sure thats it

I'm sure it had nothing to do with human rights abuses, international money laundering and a government sponsored drug trade

I'm sorry, when it comes to this one, i may be thinking of another incident. Something to do with bananas, i think.

[quote="La gente dei cuori giu"]It is unlawful to lend your vacuum cleaner to your next-door neighbor.quote]

so, we have a harmless law about vacums and are the most powerful nation in the history of mankind

that must be like walking and chewing gum on an international scale

:oops:

seriously, this isn't to brag, but how many nations has the US defeated

I know these ones

UK
france
Mexico
Spain
Germany
Austria
Italy
Japan
N.Korea
China
and Iraq

which ones am I leaving out?

Well, how many have the French defeated?

England
Spain* (quite a few times, and they were facing the whole army, and there isn't a huge body of water between them)
Italy *(same as Spain)
Austria*
Germany* (OK the Germany principalities)
Russia (technically)*
Egypt*
France
Languadoc (sp?)
The Vatican (come on how many countries can boast that)
The Holy Roman Empire
The Moorish Empire
Palestine (Holy Land/Isreal/etc)
Algierier (sp)
Nigeria
Libya
Senegal
Ivory Coast
Gold Coast
Sierra Leone
Mauritius
Reunion
Vietnam (which America couldn't do )
Peloponesia (sp)
and much much more.



*These were all in the space of a few decades.

I'm sorry, but when numerous countries worked together it does not count as a US win...

would they have won without us?

Against Germany? Yes. THey kind of screwed themselves near the end, did they not?

logic would argue with you on that one

Yes yes! We are quite a country!! Who wouldn't be proud to live in a place that was built from the blood of thousands?

As far as "a place that was built from the blood of thousands" is concerned, we can't hold a candle to well just about every country in Europe and a good deal of Asian ones as well. Modern France, England, Germany, Itatly, China, Japan, the Koreas, etc all have a long and distingushed history of head-butting with neighbors.

What about Grenada? and all the other small defenceles poor countries?

Personally, the United States Government makes me sick. They corrupt us from childhood. They outlaw things that are perfectly......Dumb. For example:
A law in Denver Colorado:
It is unlawful to lend your vacuum cleaner to your next-door neighbor.

Stupid or what? So why take any pride in our country taking over other countries? We will just make them conform to our "American Norm."

Wow, your the biggest idiot I've ever seen. Do you know how easy it would be for me to find a stupid law in any country in Europe? Do you honestly think they care if you lend a vacumm cleaner to your neighbor?

I'm not saying that there are no other countries that have dumb laws, but I am saying that Americans (not all, but a mojority) are pig headed and fat. We poison ourselfs with our toxic pollutions and are destroying our evnvironment. You can find a dumb law in any country. Several, in fact. but that doesn't change the fact that America is corrupt and degusting.

But there are good things about America, don't get me wrong.

Yes yes! We are quite a country!! Who wouldn't be proud to live in a place that was built from the blood of thousands? Who wouldn't be proud to live in a place where we have the most AMAZING president who is attacking Iraq for oil?

Me.

sweetheart, if this was about oil we would have invaded Alaska

I'm sorry, but when numerous countries worked together it does not count as a US win...

would they have won without us?

Against Germany? Yes. THey kind of screwed themselves near the end, did they not?

logic would argue with you on that one

How so?

The US had minimal effect on the outcome of WWI. They were just there for the ride. Of course, the supremacist US psyche can't accept that the US wasn't always the superpower it is now. In WWI, Germany, France, Austria-Hungary, Russia, and the British Empire were the big boys.

What about Grenada? and all the other small defenceles poor countries?

all those poor little countries that took innocent Americans hostage in a bid for power?

Yes yes! We are quite a country!! Who wouldn't be proud to live in a place that was built from the blood of thousands? Who wouldn't be proud to live in a place where we have the most AMAZING president who is attacking Iraq for oil?

Me.

sweetheart, if this was about oil we would have invaded Alaska

You would have bought Iraq if Saddam put a $ on it

I'm not saying that there are no other countries that have dumb laws, but I am saying that Americans (not all, but a mojority) are pig headed and fat. We poison ourselfs with our toxic pollutions and are destroying our evnvironment. You can find a dumb law in any country. Several, in fact. but that doesn't change the fact that America is corrupt and degusting.

But there are good things about America, don't get me wrong.

we really arn't that pigheaded and stupid, we just choose to live this way

seriously, this isn't to brag, but how many nations has the US defeated

I know these ones

UK
france
Mexico
Spain
Germany
Austria
Italy
Japan
N.Korea
China
and Iraq

which ones am I leaving out?

Well, how many have the French defeated?

England
Spain* (quite a few times, and they were facing the whole army, and there isn't a huge body of water between them)
Italy *(same as Spain)
Austria*
Germany* (OK the Germany principalities)
Russia (technically)*
Egypt*
France
Languadoc (sp?)
The Vatican (come on how many countries can boast that)
The Holy Roman Empire
The Moorish Empire
Palestine (Holy Land/Isreal/etc)
Algierier (sp)
Nigeria
Libya
Senegal
Ivory Coast
Gold Coast
Sierra Leone
Mauritius
Reunion
Vietnam (which America couldn't do )
Peloponesia (sp)
and much much more.



*These were all in the space of a few decades.

France has a history going back to the Roman Empire, its only logical they have a more victories under their belt. On a side note, not only have they lost to a good many countries on that list (Germany, England, Vietnam), a good number of those 'wins' were poor African and Asian countries whos most advanced technology was the shovel.

Yes yes! We are quite a country!! Who wouldn't be proud to live in a place that was built from the blood of thousands?

As far as "a place that was built from the blood of thousands" is concerned, we can't hold a candle to well just about every country in Europe and a good deal of Asian ones as well. Modern France, England, Germany, Itatly, China, Japan, the Koreas, etc all have a long and distingushed history of head-butting with neighbors.

You're right. Rome and other such places did cause a lot of bloodshed.

Oh well, you still lost to Canada.

*sings "the war of 1812"*








:wink:

I'm sorry, but when numerous countries worked together it does not count as a US win...

would they have won without us?

Against Germany? Yes. THey kind of screwed themselves near the end, did they not?

logic would argue with you on that one

How so?

well, think about it this way

what would the british army loaded their guns with? courage?

what would the soviets used for food? determination

who would have landed at Utah and Omaha beaches? the spirits of liberty and freedom?

what would the british have fuled their planes with and ate durring the battle of Briton? spirit?

who would have stopped the Japanese? vietnam?

who would have given that allies the A-bomb? Iceland?

Oh well, you still lost to Canada.

*sings "the war of 1812"*
:wink:

Lol yes we did. Damn you crafty Canadians and your excess amount of red coats...

quote]we really arn't that pigheaded and stupid, we just choose to live this way

Maybe, but admit it. Most Americans are arrogent. I can't count how many times I have heard someone say something like "Why do I have to learn Spanish? Why can't the whole world speak English." And stuff like that.

:oops:

Even though N. Korea technically is a draw, we still repelled them out of S. Korea and have kept them out.

So then by this logic the US lost the war of 1812?

You would have bought Iraq if Saddam put a $ on it

answer me one question, if this was about oil why isn't the US army in Alaska?

France has a history going back to the Roman Empire, its only logical they have a more victories under their belt. On a side note, not only have they lost to a good many countries on that list (Germany, England, Vietnam), a good number of those 'wins' were poor African and Asian countries whos most advanced technology was the shovel.

Because N Korea, Iraq, Mexico and China were really rich and powerful ;) My point was not that France is better than the USA because it has achieved more victories, but that military victories =/= being a good country, or being a better country

To whoever said France beat Vietnam, your completely wrong. France started the war in Vietnam, and left. We went in there to help them and they ended up leaving us there.

You would have bought Iraq if Saddam put a $ on it

answer me one question, if this was about oil why isn't the US army in Alaska?

Well, maybe just maybe, because we own it already. Not sure about that.

what would the british army loaded their guns with? courage?

Trading with a country doesn't mean that you get to claim their victories.

The U.S. never "defeated" Germany, they kicked Hitler's and the Nazi's asses. And that wasn't purely the U.S., either. The U.S. didn't even join WWII at the beginning.

And when did the U.S. defeat Spain? or France, for that matter? I agree with whoever said this was a masculinity issue -_-'

Maybe, but admit it. Most Americans are arrogent. I can't count how many times I have heard someone say something like "Why do I have to learn Spanish? Why can't the whole world speak English." And stuff like that.

most of us have to learn spanish because of the newest wave of immagrents, I think part of the resentment stems from the fact that all our ancestors had to learn english

after all, when the Irish came how many people learned to speak gailic?

France has a history going back to the Roman Empire, its only logical they have a more victories under their belt. On a side note, not only have they lost to a good many countries on that list (Germany, England, Vietnam), a good number of those 'wins' were poor African and Asian countries whos most advanced technology was the shovel.

Because N Korea, Iraq, Mexico and China were really rich and powerful ;) My point was not that France is better than the USA because it has achieved more victories, but that military victories =/= being a good country, or being a better country

I think N. Korea and Mexico status as "rich and powerful" is debatable, and we still got our ass handed to us by China in Korea. And I was under the impression this was simply a "my nation has more wins than yours!" thread, not a thread debating which nation has the moral high ground.

You would have bought Iraq if Saddam put a $ on it

answer me one question, if this was about oil why isn't the US army in Alaska?

Well the last time I checked Alaska was a State in the Union. Also there are no 'insurgents' in Alaska (how can you insurge your own country?). So simply, there are no soldiers in Alaska because the oil there are safe.

sweetheart, if this was about oil we would have invaded Alaska

True. But Bush did lie to us. The whole thing in Iraq was to get the respoonsible persons for 9.1.1 We got Sadaam, so why are we still bombing it? Why are we still killing hundreds of people over there?

And when did the U.S. defeat Spain? or France, for that matter? I agree with whoever said this was a masculinity issue -_-'

Haha, I bet he owns a small red sports car, too. :wink:

To whoever said France beat Vietnam, your completely wrong. France started the war in Vietnam, and left. We went in there to help them and they ended up leaving us there.
Wasn't it a French colony? How did this happen?

You would have bought Iraq if Saddam put a $ on it

answer me one question, if this was about oil why isn't the US army in Alaska?

Well, maybe just maybe, because we own it already. Not sure about that.

you know what I mean

if this was about oil GW would have just oppened up Alaska

Personally, the United States Government makes me sick. They corrupt us from childhood. They outlaw things that are perfectly......Dumb. For example:
A law in Denver Colorado:
It is unlawful to lend your vacuum cleaner to your next-door neighbor.

Stupid or what? So why take any pride in our country taking over other countries? We will just make them conform to our "American Norm."

Wow, your the biggest idiot I've ever seen. Do you know how easy it would be for me to find a stupid law in any country in Europe? Do you honestly think they care if you lend a vacumm cleaner to your neighbor?

I'm not saying that there are no other countries that have dumb laws, but I am saying that Americans (not all, but a mojority) are pig headed and fat. We poison ourselfs with our toxic pollutions and are destroying our evnvironment. You can find a dumb law in any country. Several, in fact. but that doesn't change the fact that America is corrupt and degusting.

But there are good things about America, don't get me wrong.

Have you ever been to Bangkok? Or Seoul? Or tokyo? Or any other major city in the world? They ruin the environment. Especially Bangkok, dirtiest, nastiest place I've ever lived. You can't even see stars or the moon at night because of pollution.
Most industrialzed countires are ruining their environment. So with your argument Most of Europe could be considered pig headed too.

The U.S. never "defeated" Germany, they kicked Hitler's and the Nazi's asses. And that wasn't purely the U.S., either. The U.S. didn't even join WWII at the beginning.

And when did the U.S. defeat Spain? or France, for that matter? I agree with whoever said this was a masculinity issue -_-'

so, we were the determining factor in that war (though WW I is arguable)

it was called the spanish-American war, and we won it

the frigate war with france? ever heard of it? we won that one too

You would have bought Iraq if Saddam put a $ on it

answer me one question, if this was about oil why isn't the US army in Alaska?

Well, maybe just maybe, because we own it already. Not sure about that.

you know what I mean

if this was about oil GW would have just oppened up Alaska

Nooo, you see, some of the voters actually care about the American wilderness. They want to keep the states pretty.

quote]we really arn't that pigheaded and stupid, we just choose to live this way

Maybe, but admit it. Most Americans are arrogent. I can't count how many times I have heard someone say something like "Why do I have to learn Spanish? Why can't the whole world speak English." And stuff like that.

I'd like to point out that the English language isn't even from America O.o and people from every country are going to think that their country is the best...the American government is a racist, religiously-biased conglomerate of white guys with masculinity issues, but don't judge the people by their stupid government. I mean, look at Al Qeda. Because of them, every time an American (and I'm being general) sees a guy in a turban, they'll think terrorist.

after all, when the Irish came how many people learned to speak gailic?

Not many. The Irish were not treated very well...

sweetheart, if this was about oil we would have invaded Alaska

True. But Bush did lie to us. The whole thing in Iraq was to get the respoonsible persons for 9.1.1 We got Sadaam, so why are we still bombing it? Why are we still killing hundreds of people over there?

GW never said it was about Ossama

And when did the U.S. defeat Spain? or France, for that matter? I agree with whoever said this was a masculinity issue -_-'

Haha, I bet he owns a small red sports car, too. :wink:

29 in fact

To whoever said France beat Vietnam, your completely wrong. France started the war in Vietnam, and left. We went in there to help them and they ended up leaving us there.
Wasn't it a French colony? How did this happen?

they flat out suck, that how

You would have bought Iraq if Saddam put a $ on it

answer me one question, if this was about oil why isn't the US army in Alaska?

Well, maybe just maybe, because we own it already. Not sure about that.

you know what I mean

if this was about oil GW would have just oppened up Alaska

Now I'm no businessman, but it seems to make sence to hold onto your own reserves for as long as possible. Also oil=power, the more oil a country has access to the better it can perform, the less in has to really on imports.

You would have bought Iraq if Saddam put a $ on it

answer me one question, if this was about oil why isn't the US army in Alaska?

Well, maybe just maybe, because we own it already. Not sure about that.

you know what I mean

if this was about oil GW would have just oppened up Alaska

Nooo, you see, some of the voters actually care about the American wilderness. They want to keep the states pretty.

GW is TRYING to open up Alaska. He runs roughshod over every environmental law that exists. He paves roads into national forests for the tourist industry...roads that are maintaned using tax payer dollars. The only thing keeping him out is his preoccupation with the "war" that "ended" already in Iraq.

And when did the U.S. defeat Spain? or France, for that matter? I agree with whoever said this was a masculinity issue -_-'

Haha, I bet he owns a small red sports car, too. :wink:

29 in fact

[------] <--- IT's that big :wink:

I'd like to point out that the English language isn't even from America O.o and people from every country are going to think that their country is the best...the American government is a racist, religiously-biased conglomerate of white guys with masculinity issues, but don't judge the people by their stupid government. I mean, look at Al Qeda. Because of them, every time an American (and I'm being general) sees a guy in a turban, they'll think terrorist.

LOL, you've got a point. I'm not saying every one has to be a cynic... I personally am not one. It's perfectly ok to love your country. I just learned at a young age that our great country was not so great.

We defeated Spain sometime around 1899. Short history:

Cuba rebels from Spain, Spain rightfully acts against it. US Newspapers print sensational stories against Spain; President whosits sends USS Maine to Havana harbor to protect American interests

The Maine has the misfortune of exploding due to a boiler accident. The afore-mentioned newspapers go crazy, claim Spain did it, and within a few weeks the US was at war with Spain.

Admiral Dewy sails from Hong Kong with the American Pacific Fleet and blows the Spanish fleet in Manila Bay out of the water. Although the Spanish fleet consisted mainly of leaky old gunboats, it was still their only real power in the Phillipines.

Meanwhile, the American Army loaded onto any transport they could get and sailed for Cuba. After a month or two of fighting, the Spanish were defeated (with the help of Cuban rebels). Spanish Fleet is again defeated south of the island.


And [America] didn't even join at the beginning.

Mmm yes, and the Allies were doing splendidly weren't they?

And finally, for France, to my knowledge we never ever EVER went to war with them. I have no idea why they are in the list.

sweetheart, if this was about oil we would have invaded Alaska

True. But Bush did lie to us. The whole thing in Iraq was to get the respoonsible persons for 9.1.1 We got Sadaam, so why are we still bombing it? Why are we still killing hundreds of people over there?

GW never said it was about Ossama

Yeah, but GW said "Osama" this and "Osama" that, until he couldn't find him...and THEN he went after Sadaam.

To whoever said France beat Vietnam, your completely wrong. France started the war in Vietnam, and left. We went in there to help them and they ended up leaving us there.
Wasn't it a French colony? How did this happen?

they flat out suck, that how

Wow, you're also a first class debator. w00t.

If you want to talk about languages, look at France. Do you know they actually are mad because French was almost the "trade? language. Whatever its called, because I don't know. Anyways, English beat French when it came to being spoken globally.
For that matter don't start calling Americans hot headed idiots, without blaming France first.

If you want to talk about languages, look at France. Do you know they actually are mad because French was almost the "trade? language. Whatever its called, because I don't know. Anyways, English beat French when it came to being spoken globally.
For that matter don't start calling Americans hot headed idiots, without blaming France first.

To whoever said France beat Vietnam, your completely wrong. France started the war in Vietnam, and left. We went in there to help them and they ended up leaving us there.
Wasn't it a French colony? How did this happen?

they flat out suck, that how
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What a weird concept, that you can set up and maintain colonies by sucking.

GW never said it was about Ossama

No, but he did say that we were going in to get the people who were involved in the terrible incident of 9.11

Mmm yes, and the Allies were doing splendidly weren't they?

Yeah, but the U.S. sure didn't do it alone. And my point was the U.S. never defeated Germany.

Another short history lesson on Vietnam:

Vietnam became a French colony sometime in the 1800s. The French didn't rule the natives to nicely, so it was always a kind of stingy relationship.

Along comes WWII and the subsequent Japanese occupation of Vietnam. At the end of the war they're driven out and the French resume control. By this time a Nationalist/Communist rebellion has begun and the French spend the next several years fighting for them before losing rather spectacularly at Dien Ben Phu. Vietnam is divided, North wants to combine with South, South says no, North begins infiltrating, America comes in, and so on..

If you want to talk about languages, look at France. Do you know they actually are mad because French was almost the "trade? language. Whatever its called, because I don't know. Anyways, English beat French when it came to being spoken globally.
For that matter don't start calling Americans hot headed idiots, without blaming France first.


HAHAHA. I am the first to admit that a lot of the French are buttholes! I was in France for awhile...and my french professor was a d*i*c*k

If you want to talk about languages, look at France. Do you know they actually are mad because French was almost the "trade? language. Whatever its called, because I don't know. Anyways, English beat French when it came to being spoken globally.
For that matter don't start calling Americans hot headed idiots, without blaming France first.

"Lingua Franca" is the term that you are groping for.

I think you have hit the nail on the head. France oppossed the War in Iraq becaused they are pissed that French isn't the Lingua Franca. :roll:

I won't bother with the last two clauses because they make no sense. Although you seem to be saying that it is because of France, the US is a superpower. This is how you treat your 'parents' :shock:

As for N.Korea.. (this is where it's simple hogwash to include China) that's the reason the US pulled out, once China got involved. So China should not be on this posters list. I think he's high, but that's just a personal opnion.

Another short history lesson on Vietnam:

Vietnam became a French colony sometime in the 1800s. The French didn't rule the natives to nicely, so it was always a kind of stingy relationship.

Along comes WWII and the subsequent Japanese occupation of Vietnam. At the end of the war they're driven out and the French resume control. By this time a Nationalist/Communist rebellion has begun and the French spend the next several years fighting for them before losing rather spectacularly at Dien Ben Phu. Vietnam is divided, North wants to combine with South, South says no, North begins infiltrating, America comes in, and so on..

Just wondering, why is Vietnam such a big deal? We were fighting for a good cause then. Just think about how much better Vietnam would be if we would have actually won. Personally, I think they're worse than China. I hear more crap about Vietnam than I ever will China.

If you want to talk about languages, look at France. Do you know they actually are mad because French was almost the "trade? language. Whatever its called, because I don't know. Anyways, English beat French when it came to being spoken globally.
For that matter don't start calling Americans hot headed idiots, without blaming France first.


HAHAHA. I am the first to admit that a lot of the French are buttholes! I was in France for awhile...and my french professor was a d*i*c*k

I think that SOME French are haughty and arrogant xP just like SOME Americans are. It's just a stereotype...albeit a generally correct one, in most cases.

Honestly though..Why do a lot of Americans get ticked off about having to learn another language? Is it really so bad?

Another short history lesson on Vietnam:

Vietnam became a French colony sometime in the 1800s. The French didn't rule the natives to nicely, so it was always a kind of stingy relationship.

Along comes WWII and the subsequent Japanese occupation of Vietnam. At the end of the war they're driven out and the French resume control. By this time a Nationalist/Communist rebellion has begun and the French spend the next several years fighting for them before losing rather spectacularly at Dien Ben Phu. Vietnam is divided, North wants to combine with South, South says no, North begins infiltrating, America comes in, and so on..


Just wondering, why is Vietnam such a big deal? We were fighting for a good cause then. Just think about how much better Vietnam would be if we would have actually won. Personally, I think they're worse than China. I hear more crap about Vietnam than I ever will China.


Just think how much better 'Nam would be if you didn't spray Agent Orange everywhere. Even if you did win you wouldn't care about all the children you had mutated.

Another short history lesson on Vietnam:

Vietnam became a French colony sometime in the 1800s. The French didn't rule the natives to nicely, so it was always a kind of stingy relationship.

Along comes WWII and the subsequent Japanese occupation of Vietnam. At the end of the war they're driven out and the French resume control. By this time a Nationalist/Communist rebellion has begun and the French spend the next several years fighting for them before losing rather spectacularly at Dien Ben Phu. Vietnam is divided, North wants to combine with South, South says no, North begins infiltrating, America comes in, and so on..


Just wondering, why is Vietnam such a big deal? We were fighting for a good cause then. Just think about how much better Vietnam would be if we would have actually won. Personally, I think they're worse than China. I hear more crap about Vietnam than I ever will China.


Just think how much better 'Nam would be if you didn't spray Agent Orange everywhere. Even if you did win you wouldn't care about all the children you had mutated.

Another short history lesson on Vietnam:

Vietnam became a French colony sometime in the 1800s. The French didn't rule the natives to nicely, so it was always a kind of stingy relationship.

Along comes WWII and the subsequent Japanese occupation of Vietnam. At the end of the war they're driven out and the French resume control. By this time a Nationalist/Communist rebellion has begun and the French spend the next several years fighting for them before losing rather spectacularly at Dien Ben Phu. Vietnam is divided, North wants to combine with South, South says no, North begins infiltrating, America comes in, and so on..

Just wondering, why is Vietnam such a big deal? We were fighting for a good cause then. Just think about how much better Vietnam would be if we would have actually won. Personally, I think they're worse than China. I hear more crap about Vietnam than I ever will China.

Why is Vietnam a big deal?....oh...youth..wisdom should be given too you in spades. It's a big deal because over 50000 of my brethren gave their lives to that misbegotten jungle...over 2000 of my brethren still unaccounted for....it was important because it was strategic to the region along with Cambodia, Laos, and Thailand..and it was important because we lost our innocence there...no more American flag, mom, and apple pie. It's important because I lost good men..friends all there..sorry, this is turning into a speech..forget I said anything.

If you want to talk about languages, look at France. Do you know they actually are mad because French was almost the "trade? language. Whatever its called, because I don't know. Anyways, English beat French when it came to being spoken globally.
For that matter don't start calling Americans hot headed idiots, without blaming France first.


HAHAHA. I am the first to admit that a lot of the French are buttholes! I was in France for awhile...and my french professor was a d*i*c*k

I think that SOME French are haughty and arrogant xP just like SOME Americans are. It's just a stereotype...albeit a generally correct one, in most cases.

You'd think the Americans would be more greatful to the french, didn't they help them separate from the british?

I think that SOME French are haughty and arrogant xP just like SOME Americans are. It's just a stereotype...albeit a generally correct one, in most cases.

To true, to true...

When did the US beat China? And when did they beat N. Korea? The war is technically not over on the Korean Penninsula, so no one has won.

finally, a good argument

Spain?! - unless you lump them in with Mexico i guess.

but then you had to go and do that - it was called the spanish-American war, and we won!

Oopsy, sorry about the second one. From the UK so have no real clue about US history. My apologies.

If you want to talk about languages, look at France. Do you know they actually are mad because French was almost the "trade? language. Whatever its called, because I don't know. Anyways, English beat French when it came to being spoken globally.
For that matter don't start calling Americans hot headed idiots, without blaming France first.

"Lingua Franca" is the term that you are groping for.

I think you have hit the nail on the head. France oppossed the War in Iraq becaused they are pissed that French isn't the Lingua Franca. :roll:

I won't bother with the last two clauses because they make no sense. Although you seem to be saying that it is because of France, the US is a superpower. This is how you treat your 'parents' :shock:

No, also because they are arab sympathizers. That was the main reason. People don't take very opinionated stances just to piss over other nations, especially when they are weaker.

Anyways, my main point was we Americans are no where near as good as we make ourselves out to be!!

If you want to talk about languages, look at France. Do you know they actually are mad because French was almost the "trade? language. Whatever its called, because I don't know. Anyways, English beat French when it came to being spoken globally.
For that matter don't start calling Americans hot headed idiots, without blaming France first.

"Lingua Franca" is the term that you are groping for.

I think you have hit the nail on the head. France oppossed the War in Iraq becaused they are pissed that French isn't the Lingua Franca. :roll:

I won't bother with the last two clauses because they make no sense. Although you seem to be saying that it is because of France, the US is a superpower. This is how you treat your 'parents' :shock:

No, also because they are arab sympathizers. That was the main reason. People don't take very opinionated stances just to piss over other nations, especially when they are weaker.

How are they arab sympathizers (which in itself is not nessaserily a bad thing)? I thought it was because they didn't believe that Bush's reasons for war were valid or true and that they would have prefered to get a UN resolution.

Another short history lesson on Vietnam:

Vietnam became a French colony sometime in the 1800s. The French didn't rule the natives to nicely, so it was always a kind of stingy relationship.

Along comes WWII and the subsequent Japanese occupation of Vietnam. At the end of the war they're driven out and the French resume control. By this time a Nationalist/Communist rebellion has begun and the French spend the next several years fighting for them before losing rather spectacularly at Dien Ben Phu. Vietnam is divided, North wants to combine with South, South says no, North begins infiltrating, America comes in, and so on..

Just wondering, why is Vietnam such a big deal? We were fighting for a good cause then. Just think about how much better Vietnam would be if we would have actually won. Personally, I think they're worse than China. I hear more crap about Vietnam than I ever will China.

Why is Vietnam a big deal?....oh...youth..wisdom should be given too you in spades. It's a big deal because over 50000 of my brethren gave their lives to that misbegotten jungle...over 2000 of my brethren still unaccounted for....it was important because it was strategic to the region along with Cambodia, Laos, and Thailand..and it was important because we lost our innocence there...no more American flag, mom, and apple pie. It's important because I lost good men..friends all there..sorry, this is turning into a speech..forget I said anything.

Sorry I didn't make that clearer. Why do people try to bash America for helping them? I know we lost good men there. And I know about its geography, I used to live near it. Just because we lost there isn't a huge deal. Everyone seems to think America is a lesser place because of it. What I regret is the people that died. I regret that with any war, good or bad.

Anyways, my main point was we Americans are no where near as good as we make ourselves out to be!!

Neither is any other country as good as they make themselves out to be. Its to be expected.

Another short history lesson on Vietnam:

Vietnam became a French colony sometime in the 1800s. The French didn't rule the natives to nicely, so it was always a kind of stingy relationship.

Along comes WWII and the subsequent Japanese occupation of Vietnam. At the end of the war they're driven out and the French resume control. By this time a Nationalist/Communist rebellion has begun and the French spend the next several years fighting for them before losing rather spectacularly at Dien Ben Phu. Vietnam is divided, North wants to combine with South, South says no, North begins infiltrating, America comes in, and so on..


Just wondering, why is Vietnam such a big deal? We were fighting for a good cause then. Just think about how much better Vietnam would be if we would have actually won. Personally, I think they're worse than China. I hear more crap about Vietnam than I ever will China.


Just think how much better 'Nam would be if you didn't spray Agent Orange everywhere. Even if you did win you wouldn't care about all the children you had mutated.

If you mean that literally you proably should have said Japan. But we didn't mutate their children. They strapped bombs on their own children and did that. I'm not saying that we didn't kill any of theirs, but mistakes do happen and I have heard about American Troops attacking normal villages.

Neither is any other country as good as they make themselves out to be. Its to be expected.

True, but still... I tend to think that there are other countries far better then ours..even if we have more power. Power isn't everything. Along with our power we have THE highest murder rate, and suicide rate. Along with the highest rate of teen pregnancies...

Neither is any other country as good as they make themselves out to be. Its to be expected.

True, but still... I tend to think that there are other countries far better then ours..even if we have more power. Power isn't everything. Along with our power we have THE highest murder rate, and suicide rate. Along with the highest rate of teen pregnancies...

Oh I know there are. If I could be I would be living somewhere in Asia right now.

Another short history lesson on Vietnam:

Vietnam became a French colony sometime in the 1800s. The French didn't rule the natives to nicely, so it was always a kind of stingy relationship.

Along comes WWII and the subsequent Japanese occupation of Vietnam. At the end of the war they're driven out and the French resume control. By this time a Nationalist/Communist rebellion has begun and the French spend the next several years fighting for them before losing rather spectacularly at Dien Ben Phu. Vietnam is divided, North wants to combine with South, South says no, North begins infiltrating, America comes in, and so on..


Just wondering, why is Vietnam such a big deal? We were fighting for a good cause then. Just think about how much better Vietnam would be if we would have actually won. Personally, I think they're worse than China. I hear more crap about Vietnam than I ever will China.


Just think how much better 'Nam would be if you didn't spray Agent Orange everywhere. Even if you did win you wouldn't care about all the children you had mutated.

If you mean that literally you proably should have said Japan. But we didn't mutate their children. They strapped bombs on their own children and did that. I'm not saying that we didn't kill any of theirs, but mistakes do happen and I have heard about American Troops attacking normal villages.


I do not know if you understand the effects of agent orange that still effect Vietnamese today. But for some examples go to google image search and type in "agent orange."

Oh I know there are. If I could be I would be living somewhere in Asia right now.
And I in Italy or Ireland, my friend. But, unfortunely...I am too Impoverished to move out of country.

Oh I know there are. If I could be I would be living somewhere in Asia right now.

Where do you live now? Which state?

Another short history lesson on Vietnam:

Vietnam became a French colony sometime in the 1800s. The French didn't rule the natives to nicely, so it was always a kind of stingy relationship.

Along comes WWII and the subsequent Japanese occupation of Vietnam. At the end of the war they're driven out and the French resume control. By this time a Nationalist/Communist rebellion has begun and the French spend the next several years fighting for them before losing rather spectacularly at Dien Ben Phu. Vietnam is divided, North wants to combine with South, South says no, North begins infiltrating, America comes in, and so on..


Just wondering, why is Vietnam such a big deal? We were fighting for a good cause then. Just think about how much better Vietnam would be if we would have actually won. Personally, I think they're worse than China. I hear more crap about Vietnam than I ever will China.


Just think how much better 'Nam would be if you didn't spray Agent Orange everywhere. Even if you did win you wouldn't care about all the children you had mutated.

If you mean that literally you proably should have said Japan. But we didn't mutate their children. They strapped bombs on their own children and did that. I'm not saying that we didn't kill any of theirs, but mistakes do happen and I have heard about American Troops attacking normal villages.


I do not know if you understand the effects of agent orange that still effect Vietnamese today. But for some examples go to google image search and type in "agent orange."

Well I cant find this anywhere, but do the effects carry over to each new generation or is it a one time thing?

Oh I know there are. If I could be I would be living somewhere in Asia right now.

Where do you live now? Which state?

I live in America, state: Mississippi, basically in Tennessee though. I really don't like Mississippi. One thing I've hated about being here is that Americans seem to be ignorant of any world wide events, except those that concern them. The problem is, since the type of thing I want to hear about doesn't come on here I don't get to hear any of it either.

I do not know if you understand the effects of agent orange that still effect Vietnamese today. But for some examples go to google image search and type in "agent orange."
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What exactly is agent orange? I have never heard the term before.

man this is funny i just had to ::tag:: this sh;t

I live in America, state: Mississippi, basically in Tennessee though. I really don't like Mississippi. One thing I've hated about being here is that Americans seem to be ignorant of any world wide events, except those that concern them. The problem is, since the type of thing I want to hear about doesn't come on here I don't get to hear any of it either.

I live in Minnesota.. Everyone here is very concious about the world wide events...But a lot of them have got it wrong.

man this is funny i just had to ::tag:: this S***

What exactly is so funny?

I do not know if you understand the effects of agent orange that still effect Vietnamese today. But for some examples go to google image search and type in "agent orange."

What exactly is agent orange? I have never heard the term before.[/quote]

It was supposed to be used to clear out foliage in Vietnam, but it had strange effects on humans, or just fetuses I'm not sure. Sorta like the radition from the nuke in Japan. Ever seen the kids with like 3 arms or whatever? Agent Orange did the same thing.

Well I cant find this anywhere, but do the effects carry over to each new generation or is it a one time thing?

Here's an example:
http://www.aref.de/kalenderblatt/2002/pics/agent_orange_kind.jpg

It has been noticed to carry over generations, Vietnamese babies are still born with it. It is one of the sadest things to happen to the human race (imo).

I do not blame the Americans for what happened because of it btw. As I understand the effects of it were not known at the time. Similar to DDT.

What exactly is agent orange? I have never heard the term beforeAgent Orange was the herbicide that the US used to destroy the Rainforest in Vietnam, unfortunately it got into the wider environment (carried by rivers, streams etc) and it is not biodegradable. It is thought is highly carginogenic and toxic, it also causes birth defects in babies.

look here: http://www1.va.gov/agentorange/

It was supposed to be used to clear out foliage in Vietnam, but it had strange effects on humans, or just fetuses I'm not sure. Sorta like the radition from the nuke in Japan. Ever seen the kids with like 3 arms or whatever? Agent Orange did the same thing.


:x How Horrible! :x

It was supposed to be used to clear out foliage in Vietnam, but it had strange effects on humans, or just fetuses I'm not sure. Sorta like the radition from the nuke in Japan. Ever seen the kids with like 3 arms or whatever? Agent Orange did the same thing.


:x How Horrible! :x

To go with the picture I posted above. This is what it did to the environment

http://www.yptenc.org.uk/docs/dailygecko_news/newsimages/news_images3/agent_orange.jpg

Well I cant find this anywhere, but do the effects carry over to each new generation or is it a one time thing?

Here's an example:
http://www.aref.de/kalenderblatt/2002/pics/agent_orange_kind.jpg

Seeing this I am seriously on the verge of tears...wow...

I was going to post more, but I could not do it. And this from someone who prides himself on haveing a high constitution.

The sadest part is it is a scar, there is nothing we can do to stop or make it disappear short of evacuating every and declaring the areas "No go areas"

I also think par tof the sadness is that these are victims for things that they are not responsible for. They are innocent in everyway.

That is truely disgusting. I casn't understand how anyone could do that to anyone. My mum was standing over my shoulder and I guess America sprayed agent orange over reservations here in Minnesota and other places to try and get rid of the Native Americans. How sick is that?

ouch.

http://poetry.rotten-com/mind-the-gap/mind-the-gap.jpg

Bastard. Get out of here if your just going to be a pain in the ass.

Dude, please.



Also, I thought that it was impossible to show anything from Rotten.

I did not want to see that last picture...

I did not want to see that last picture...

The Baby or the Rotten one?

Seriously, how immature.

I did not want to see that last picture...

The Baby or the Rotten one?

The Rotton one.

You forgot Tripoli. :wink:

(on the lists of nations defeated)

You would have bought Iraq if Saddam put a $ on it

answer me one question, if this was about oil why isn't the US army in Alaska?

Well, maybe just maybe, because we own it already. Not sure about that.

you know what I mean

if this was about oil GW would have just oppened up Alaska

Nooo, you see, some of the voters actually care about the American wilderness. They want to keep the states pretty.

you know that if the Alaskan wilderness could boost the ecconomy 20% no American voter wouild give a damn

besides, for all the money we're spending in Iraq we could just refurbish the parks after we're done

Be back in a half hour!!!

Now I'm no businessman, but it seems to make sence to hold onto your own reserves for as long as possible. Also oil=power, the more oil a country has access to the better it can perform, the less in has to really on imports.

but because we don't open up Alaska we don't have control of them

was the war on Iraq about oil we would have just gone there

[quote="Baleazth"]GW is TRYING to open up Alaska. He runs roughshod over every environmental law that exists. He paves roads into national forests for the tourist industry...roads that are maintaned using tax payer dollars.quote]

first off, it's not like he single handedly built those roads or ordered them built. they were built to put out forrest fires, any sane enviromentalist would see their purpose, and it makes sense after what happened in California that the tax-payers should try to stop forrest fires.

first off, it's not like he single handedly built those roads or ordered them built. they were built to put out forrest fires, any sane enviromentalist would see their purpose, and it makes sense after what happened in California that the tax-payers should try to stop forrest fires.

The more you fight nature, the more nature fights back. The more you stop and control forest fires, the bigger they will get until you cannot control them. The underbrush will get to thick to be able to stop and fire that goes through.

GW never said it was about Ossama

Yeah, but GW said "Osama" this and "Osama" that, until he couldn't find him...and THEN he went after Sadaam.

I'm sure thats how it worked out...

GW never said it was about Ossama

No, but he did say that we were going in to get the people who were involved in the terrible incident of 9.11

are you going somewhere with that?

we can, in fact, walk and chew bubble gum at the same time

You forgot Tripoli. :wink:

(on the lists of nations defeated)

a) Tripoli isn't a country

b) Britain did the negotiatind and the US stole the glory

c)you know that, please stop trolling

but because we don't open up Alaska we don't have control of them

was the war on Iraq about oil we would have just gone there

Firstly, you do have control of them. Just because their are legal restrictions on the exploiting of it does not mean you don't. Surely the fact that it is protected by law means you control it.

It is like saying the British Government doesn't have control of the limestone in the Yorkshire Dales because it is in the National Park and therefore protected.

You did just go there, but like any semi-inteligent being Bush decided to cover his ass (or try to) to not receive condemnation of the International community. Unfortunatly the current administration is not to hot diplomacy.

Yeah, but the U.S. sure didn't do it alone. And my point was the U.S. never defeated Germany.

what are there facist rebles hideing oiut in the mountians still conducting a gurrila war?

GW never said it was about Ossama

No, but he did say that we were going in to get the people who were involved in the terrible incident of 9.11

are you going somewhere with that?

we can, in fact, walk and chew bubble gum at the same time

Not quite sure, but I think he is saying that there is nothing to connect Iraq with Al-Qaida except that both the leaders have (had) funky facial hair.

As for N.Korea.. (this is where it's simple hogwash to include China) that's the reason the US pulled out, once China got involved. So China should not be on this posters list. I think he's high, but that's just a personal opnion.

pulled out

when did that happen

did Macaruther just call it quites and wen't home when the history books weren't looking?

Orange everywhere. Even if you did win you wouldn't care about all the children you had mutated.

wouldn't have been great if the viet cong hadn't massacured whole villiages for shock and awe, and demicrats didn't run the war

GW never said it was about Ossama

No, but he did say that we were going in to get the people who were involved in the terrible incident of 9.11

are you going somewhere with that?

we can, in fact, walk and chew bubble gum at the same time

Not quite sure, but I think he is saying that there is nothing to connect Iraq with Al-Qaida except that both the leaders have (had) funky facial hair.


Wow! I leave for 15 minutes and look what happens! I was going somewhere with that, but pionts were proven, and there is no good in rehashing old wounds....crude metephore, I know. 8)

Don't forget...The brave US navy captured the Enigma machine from a sinking u-boat and a single US airman won the battle of britain.

When did the US beat China? And when did they beat N. Korea? The war is technically not over on the Korean Penninsula, so no one has won.

finally, a good argument

Spain?! - unless you lump them in with Mexico i guess.

but then you had to go and do that - it was called the spanish-American war, and we won!

Oopsy, sorry about the second one. From the UK so have no real clue about US history. My apologies.

its all good

a single US airman won the battle of britain.

While sleeping...

a single US airman won the battle of britain.

While sleeping...

I don't think you watch enough movies...Be a good citizen and go watch some history

How are they arab sympathizers (which in itself is not nessaserily a bad thing)? I thought it was because they didn't believe that Bush's reasons for war were valid or true and that they would have prefered to get a UN resolution.

when has a UN resolution EVER solved a hostile situation?

Orange everywhere. Even if you did win you wouldn't care about all the children you had mutated.

wouldn't have been great if the viet cong hadn't massacured whole villiages for shock and awe, and demicrats didn't run the war

Because the American were the height of virtue in that war right?
This double-think is best done in Apocalyse Now when a Vietnamese villager runs up a heicopter with a grenade and the Colonel (rank?) says "savages."

a single US airman won the battle of britain.

While sleeping...

I don't think you watch enough movies...Be a good citizen and go watch some history

Wouldn't it be better to do reseach instead of watching a movie?

we have THE highest murder rate, and suicide rate. Along with the highest rate of teen pregnancies...

maybe among wester nations, but not in the world

we have THE highest murder rate, and suicide rate. Along with the highest rate of teen pregnancies...

You see that! We own3d all those other countries! :D

How are they arab sympathizers (which in itself is not nessaserily a bad thing)? I thought it was because they didn't believe that Bush's reasons for war were valid or true and that they would have prefered to get a UN resolution.

when has a UN resolution EVER solved a hostile situation?

Kosovo...Serbia...etc

How are they arab sympathizers (which in itself is not nessaserily a bad thing)? I thought it was because they didn't believe that Bush's reasons for war were valid or true and that they would have prefered to get a UN resolution.

when has a UN resolution EVER solved a hostile situation?

Right, because Iraq was a huge threat to America with those stealth WMDs. Also America keeps the UN impotent by going it alone and vetoing resolutions.

How was there a hostile situation, before the US started "agressive diplomacy" agianst Irag.

That is truely disgusting. I casn't understand how anyone could do that to anyone. My mum was standing over my shoulder and I guess America sprayed agent orange over reservations here in Minnesota and other places to try and get rid of the Native Americans. How sick is that?

they used it because they didn't know there would be side effects like this

and are you sure about the Indians? I lived in Minnesota too and I never heard that

The more you fight nature, the more nature fights back. The more you stop and control forest fires, the bigger they will get until you cannot control them. The underbrush will get to thick to be able to stop and fire that goes through.

unless ofcourse, you put them out

That is truely disgusting. I casn't understand how anyone could do that to anyone. My mum was standing over my shoulder and I guess America sprayed agent orange over reservations here in Minnesota and other places to try and get rid of the Native Americans. How sick is that?

they used it because they didn't know there would be side effects like this

and are you sure about the Indians? I lived in Minnesota too and I never heard that

The same with DDT. This is not something unique to America, it is a flaw the whole human race succumbs to. Not taking into account what our actions to do. It is scary how many people must be scared, killed or suffer for us to learn a lesson.

GW never said it was about Ossama

No, but he did say that we were going in to get the people who were involved in the terrible incident of 9.11

are you going somewhere with that?

we can, in fact, walk and chew bubble gum at the same time

Not quite sure, but I think he is saying that there is nothing to connect Iraq with Al-Qaida except that both the leaders have (had) funky facial hair.

maybe, just maybe the greatest military force in ever walk the earth can handle two minnor wars at once. and if they hold thier breath, maybe even three!

Don't forget...The brave US navy captured the Enigma machine from a sinking u-boat and a single US airman won the battle of britain.

what?

oh no! pearl harbor and U-751 were historical fiction?

I based all my arguments on those movies! they're falling apart all around me! help!

I need to split for the night. If anyone would like to get in touch with me and talk more about ne stuff we talked about tonight, go ahead! It's been great! Arrivadreci!

GW never said it was about Ossama

No, but he did say that we were going in to get the people who were involved in the terrible incident of 9.11

are you going somewhere with that?

we can, in fact, walk and chew bubble gum at the same time

Not quite sure, but I think he is saying that there is nothing to connect Iraq with Al-Qaida except that both the leaders have (had) funky facial hair.

maybe, just maybe the greatest military force in ever walk the earth can handle two minnor wars at once. and if they hold thier breath, maybe even three!

Of course if you put it all in context, you set the scene for a lively debate between history geeks.



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How are they arab sympathizers (which in itself is not nessaserily a bad thing)? I thought it was because they didn't believe that Bush's reasons for war were valid or true and that they would have prefered to get a UN resolution.

when has a UN resolution EVER solved a hostile situation?

Kosovo...Serbia...etc

supporting, after the fact, unilateral US military action

Don't forget...The brave US navy captured the Enigma machine from a sinking u-boat and a single US airman won the battle of britain.

what?

oh no! pearl harbor and U-751 were historical fiction?

I based all my arguments on those movies! they're falling apart all around me! help!

Please, U-751 was not historical fiction. It was complete fiction.

How are they arab sympathizers (which in itself is not nessaserily a bad thing)? I thought it was because they didn't believe that Bush's reasons for war were valid or true and that they would have prefered to get a UN resolution.

when has a UN resolution EVER solved a hostile situation?

Kosovo...Serbia...etc

supporting, after the fact, unilateral US military action

The UN is in there now... After having solved a hostile situation.

Right, because Iraq was a huge threat to America with those stealth WMDs. Also America keeps the UN impotent by going it alone and vetoing resolutions.

How was there a hostile situation, before the US started "agressive diplomacy" agianst Irag.

Iraq was a huge threat to its own people

and to be blunt

I don't care if GW had to lie to take him out

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realises how camp that sounded :oops:

How are they arab sympathizers (which in itself is not nessaserily a bad thing)? I thought it was because they didn't believe that Bush's reasons for war were valid or true and that they would have prefered to get a UN resolution.

when has a UN resolution EVER solved a hostile situation?

Kosovo...Serbia...etc

supporting, after the fact, unilateral US military action

The UN is in there now... After having solved a hostile situation.

I could have sworn it was KFOR

Concept - an unashamed History Geek ;)

me too, like all get up

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realises how camp that sounded :oops:

GLAD SOMEONE WILL MISS ME... :D Bye for real!!!

Don't forget...The brave US navy captured the Enigma machine from a sinking u-boat and a single US airman won the battle of britain.

what?

oh no! pearl harbor and U-751 were historical fiction?

I based all my arguments on those movies! they're falling apart all around me! help!

Please, U-751 was not historical fiction. It was complete fiction.

oh come on, there was an German navy

Right, because Iraq was a huge threat to America with those stealth WMDs. Also America keeps the UN impotent by going it alone and vetoing resolutions.

How was there a hostile situation, before the US started "agressive diplomacy" agianst Irag.

Iraq was a huge threat to its own people

and to be blunt

I don't care if GW had to lie to take him out

Firstly, I would have agreed to the war if regime change was the reason for war, especially if it was done with UN backing. It was the fulla-shit lies of WMDs we were fed that made me anti-war.

How was Iraq a threat to its own people? If this was the case it could not have lasted as a state for any extended amount of time.

I dont understand, which of those did the US defeat? certainly not Iraq...when did you defeat Germany?

Well, I'm thinking maybe he's talking about sports of some kind and not war.. Because if he's trying to imply war.. he's on drugs.. :shock:

uh, what the hell? there were these two things called world wars, you might remeber them if you looked in a history book.

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realises how camp that sounded :oops:

GLAD SOMEONE WILL MISS ME... :D Bye for real!!!

fo real

I love that phrase

Don't forget...The brave US navy captured the Enigma machine from a sinking u-boat and a single US airman won the battle of britain.

what?

oh no! pearl harbor and U-751 were historical fiction?

I based all my arguments on those movies! they're falling apart all around me! help!

Please, U-751 was not historical fiction. It was complete fiction.

oh come on, there was an German navy

Maybe I'm being overly pedantic, but Historical fiction is when a story is written on an actual event in history (but with artistic licence). I would not consider Quo Vadis historical fiction because Nero was there and Rome heated up a bit.

How are they arab sympathizers (which in itself is not nessaserily a bad thing)? I thought it was because they didn't believe that Bush's reasons for war were valid or true and that they would have prefered to get a UN resolution.

when has a UN resolution EVER solved a hostile situation?

Kosovo...Serbia...etc

supporting, after the fact, unilateral US military action

The UN is in there now... After having solved a hostile situation.

I could have sworn it was KFOR

Yeah...You're right, it was NATO...

However:
"This peace-enforcement force entered Kosovo on 12 June 1999 under a United Nations mandate, two days after the adoption of UN Security Council Resolution 1244."

Right, because Iraq was a huge threat to America with those stealth WMDs. Also America keeps the UN impotent by going it alone and vetoing resolutions.

How was there a hostile situation, before the US started "agressive diplomacy" agianst Irag.

Iraq was a huge threat to its own people

and to be blunt

I don't care if GW had to lie to take him out

Firstly, I would have agreed to the war if regime change was the reason for war, especially if it was done with UN backing. It was the fulla-shit lies of WMDs we were fed that made me anti-war.

How was Iraq a threat to its own people? If this was the case it could not have lasted as a state for any extended amount of time.

I've always though he used that argument to try to must international support

cause when you talk about regime change for humanitarian reasons there are always questions about where to stop

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realises how camp that sounded :oops:

GLAD SOMEONE WILL MISS ME... :D Bye for real!!!

fo real

I love that phrase

Thanks!! (I know I said goodbye.,,but it is so hard to pull myself away!!!!!)

I need to split for the night. If anyone would like to get in touch with me and talk more about ne stuff we talked about tonight, go ahead! It's been great! Arrivadreci!

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realises how camp that sounded :oops:

GLAD SOMEONE WILL MISS ME... :D Bye for real!!!

Byw babe.


I've already started acting camp I may as well finish it through ;)

Yeah...You're right, it was NATO...

However:
"This peace-enforcement force entered Kosovo on 12 June 1999 under a United Nations mandate, two days after the adoption of UN Security Council Resolution 1244."

come on, thats like when you walk out the door and just to look like he is in charge your dad yell ok, I changed my mind, you can go

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realises how camp that sounded :oops:

GLAD SOMEONE WILL MISS ME... :D Bye for real!!!

fo real

Thankss! (I know I said I was leaving but it is so hard to pull myself away!)

I love that phrase

Thanks!! (I know I said goodbye.,,but it is so hard to pull myself away!!!!!)

Ya so......bye.....(?)

good night

Yeah...You're right, it was NATO...

However:
"This peace-enforcement force entered Kosovo on 12 June 1999 under a United Nations mandate, two days after the adoption of UN Security Council Resolution 1244."

come on, thats like when you walk out the door and just to look like he is in charge your dad yell ok, I changed my mind, you can go

Well...This dad could delay it untill 2080 if he wanted to

YUP.....Adios! (Just a side note: My earlier comment on Americans not wanting to speak a language other thennenglish doesn't apply to me! I am fluent in Italian and Spanish, and I know a little french!!)

Yeah...You're right, it was NATO...

However:
"This peace-enforcement force entered Kosovo on 12 June 1999 under a United Nations mandate, two days after the adoption of UN Security Council Resolution 1244."

come on, thats like when you walk out the door and just to look like he is in charge your dad yell ok, I changed my mind, you can go

Well...This dad could delay it untill 2080 if he wanted to

we'd ssooooooooooo do it anyway

OH CAN YOU JUST STOP MAKING FUN OF US AMERICANS?! Yes I sound like an immature pr*** saying that. But for all those Europeans and Asians bashing us? BE HAPPY YOU DON'T LIVE HERE! Leave us alone geez. And to the Americans that hate America? Move to Canada I heard they have free health-care. Agh you know when I'll be impressed? When I see an entire page supporting America. Then I'd bend over to the front and touch my toes. So let's stop all these threads. Agh. Thank you for letting me rant. God knows I'm gonna get flamed for this.

not to be rude or anything but has america ever won a war all by itself?
i mean even when you were fighting the english didnt the french help?

not to be rude or anything but has america ever won a war all by itself?
i mean even when you were fighting the english didnt the french help?
Barely helped us, and I'm pretty sure we took out Mexico by ourselves. And the war of 1812.

not to be rude or anything but has america ever won a war all by itself?
i mean even when you were fighting the english didnt the french help?

granada, I'm sure there is a better example than ruffing up a few thousand cubans with kalashnikoves and a few tanks, but I'm to sleepy

You know I'm just going to say one thing:

We are the best military in the world, and we are the fattest people in the universe. So I think I'm taking a neutral stance on this. Cater to both sides you know. Just like Kerry :D. I'm gonna get flamed now @.@ eh I'm too honest.

You know I'm just going to say one thing:

We are the best military in the world, and we are the fattest people in the universe. So I think I'm taking a neutral stance on this. Cater to both sides you know. Just like Kerry :D. I'm gonna get flamed now @.@ eh I'm too honest.

How do you mean best?

Best equipped?
Best trained?
Best paid?
Best numbers?