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Have you seen the video of the beheading?

Ryanania
13-05-2004, 06:53
Have you seen the video of the beheading? I have, and it was the worst thing I've ever seen. I couldn't even bring myself to watch the whole thing, it was so disgusting.
13-05-2004, 06:54
where did u see it?
Eridanus
13-05-2004, 06:55
HELL NO! Never wanna see either!
Colodia
13-05-2004, 06:56
where did u see it?

seconded.
Raysian Military Tech
13-05-2004, 06:57
Everyone I know that's seen it has gotten physically sick... I didn't even listen to the Audio when hannity aired it.

Hearing the description was enough for me.

But I would suggest that those who refuse to accept the FACT that evil exists, SHOULD watch this movie, and tell me that evil does not exist.

I'm serious, it would be impossible for me, with a shred of conscience, to say that it was just some sociological problem.... It'd be like staring at the sun and saying it isn't bright.
13-05-2004, 06:58
I tried looking for it but couldnt find anywhere to see it :cry:
Josh Dollins
13-05-2004, 06:58
I saw up to the beheading in which I stopped, no beheading for me. :shock: :cry:

Disgusting. However I must say the recent issue of his family blaming the government and bush etc. is crazy the man was there on his own account and should have been saved if possible sure, but the fact is no one is to blame he was there doing as he wished and that I am fine with its his death that bugs me the guilty are those who cut off his head! And he had to have known the risk when going there.
Raysian Military Tech
13-05-2004, 06:58
http://www.drudgereport.com
http://www.michaelsavage.com

Take your pick... I haven't looked for it, but they announced that it was on there.
Raysian Military Tech
13-05-2004, 07:00
I saw up to the beheading in which I stopped, no beheading for me. :shock: :cry:

Disgusting. However I must say the recent issue of his family blaming the government and bush etc. is crazy the man was there on his own account and should have been saved if possible sure, but the fact is no one is to blame he was there doing as he wished and that I am fine with its his death that bugs me the guilty are those who cut off his head! And he had to have known the risk when going there.?!?! ARE YOU SERIOUS??!

I did not know the family was blaming Bush...
The Stealth Whale
13-05-2004, 07:00
i've seen it and all it did was instill an anger and rage towards the people that did this. You cannot 'un-see' something and this is one thing that will stick in my mind for a loooong time.

http://www.ogrish.com
Colodia
13-05-2004, 07:00
http://www.drudgereport.com
http://www.michaelsavage.com

Take your pick... I haven't looked for it, but they announced that it was on there.

hmm....I clicked the second link

I'm lookin at the screenshots of the head...sick...just plain sick

(however the link to the video is broken)
imported_Celeborne
13-05-2004, 07:01
I saw up to the beheading in which I stopped, no beheading for me. :shock: :cry:

Disgusting. However I must say the recent issue of his family blaming the government and bush etc. is crazy the man was there on his own account and should have been saved if possible sure, but the fact is no one is to blame he was there doing as he wished and that I am fine with its his death that bugs me the guilty are those who cut off his head! And he had to have known the risk when going there.

It may not be reasonable, but it is understandable. I am sure that they are just angry and need someone to blame...
Raysian Military Tech
13-05-2004, 07:02
This is the link to the video.
XXXX WARNING XXXX
THE FOLLOWING PICTURES ARE EXTREMELY GRAPHIC. HOWEVER, WE FEEL IT IS NECESSARY TO PROVIDE THEM TO YOU IN ORDER TO SHOW YOU WHO THE ENEMY REALLY IS AND WHAT THEY ARE CAPABLE OF.
http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/bergvideo.html (http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/bergvideo.html)

NOTE: The link to the video is broken, but the screenshots are there... I just looked at them for the first time as I write this...

More links, Equally graphic:
Banned pics from 9/11, and Al-jazeera coverage of the Falluujah massacre (http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/wtcjumpers.html)
Marineris Colonies
13-05-2004, 07:03
I've seen a still picture taken from the video.

The United States needs to hurry up and get out of Iraq and get back to seeing to the complete and total anihilation of anyone and everything Al-Queda.
13-05-2004, 07:04
*is sacred*

colodia, should i see it?
Colodia
13-05-2004, 07:04
This is the link to the video.
XXXX WARNING XXXX
THE FOLLOWING VIDEO IS EXTREMELY GRAPHIC. HOWEVER, WE FEEL IT IS NECESSARY TO PROVIDE IT TO YOU IN ORDER TO SHOW YOU WHO THE ENEMY REALLY IS AND WHAT THEY ARE CAPABLE OF.
http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/bergvideo.html (http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/bergvideo.html)

link doesn't work when you finally get in there
13-05-2004, 07:04
Disgusting. However I must say the recent issue of his family blaming the government and bush etc. is crazy the man was there on his own account and should have been saved if possible sure, but the fact is no one is to blame he was there doing as he wished and that I am fine with its his death that bugs me the guilty are those who cut off his head! And he had to have known the risk when going there.

The guy was beheaded because of the way american soldiers treated iraqi prisoners there in their right mind to blame bush in the video what ever group they where stated that they told the americans that they would exchange berg(sp?) if they realesed a prisoner, its america's fault this happened to them
Ryanania
13-05-2004, 07:05
where did u see it?www.golemlabs.com/forums
Grungefuttocks
13-05-2004, 07:05
That is one NASTY vidio. :( :( :(
New Fuglies
13-05-2004, 07:06
No and I am not interested. I saw the Daniel Pearl video and I deeply regret seeing it. Beides, the people that made this video and the Nick Berg ine want you to see it and get angry or disgusted but I refuse to be swayed one way or the other by a bunch of psychotic freaks who are nothing more than common criminals.
Raysian Military Tech
13-05-2004, 07:11
How can anyone see these images and refuse to think that this is a war on pure evil? What WOULD constitute as Pure Evil?!
Ryanania
13-05-2004, 07:13
How can anyone see these images and refuse to think that this is a war on pure evil? What WOULD constitute as Pure Evil?!Satan listening to Britney Spears music.
Monkeypimp
13-05-2004, 07:16
How can anyone see these images and refuse to think that this is a war on pure evil? What WOULD constitute as Pure Evil?!

Because the war on Iraq wasn't a war on Al Queda, the people who were responsible for sept 11, and who these people are claiming to be linked to?
Josh Dollins
13-05-2004, 07:17
people can I guess. I for one see it as a war on evil. Yeah blaming bush, I believe he had fair warning and protection offered him by the government to keep him safe and even get him out. He should have listened though I can admire his being there and even staying its a shame this happened. I think we should stay in Iraq until they can handle themselves, get the peace or at least somewhat and a government of some sort as well and then staying somewhat involved (for our gain and theres)
Raysian Military Tech
13-05-2004, 07:23
How can anyone see these images and refuse to think that this is a war on pure evil? What WOULD constitute as Pure Evil?!

Because the war on Iraq wasn't a war on Al Queda, the people who were responsible for sept 11, and who these people are claiming to be linked to?we didn't declare war on al-qaeda... I disctintly remember seeing the title "war on TERROR." We all know terror thrives in Iraq... and that's why it is A front on the war on terror... We went into Iraq because it is so high-profile in the middle-east, and other nations will bend to our demands if they see Saddam and Iraq fall... already, that is beginning to hold true to our wishes.
Free Soviets
13-05-2004, 07:25
How can anyone see these images and refuse to think that this is a war on pure evil? What WOULD constitute as Pure Evil?!

what does beheading have to do with 'pure evil'? yeah its shocking, and what they did was wrong. but no more evil than any other unjustified killing.
Monkeypimp
13-05-2004, 07:26
How can anyone see these images and refuse to think that this is a war on pure evil? What WOULD constitute as Pure Evil?!

Because the war on Iraq wasn't a war on Al Queda, the people who were responsible for sept 11, and who these people are claiming to be linked to?we didn't declare war on al-qaeda... I disctintly remember seeing the title "war on TERROR." We all know terror thrives in Iraq... and that's why it is A front on the war on terror... We went into Iraq because it is so high-profile in the middle-east, and other nations will bend to our demands if they see Saddam and Iraq fall... already, that is beginning to hold true to our wishes.

So it is just a war to try and make a bunch of other countries do what you tell them?
Raysian Military Tech
13-05-2004, 07:28
How can anyone see these images and refuse to think that this is a war on pure evil? What WOULD constitute as Pure Evil?!

Because the war on Iraq wasn't a war on Al Queda, the people who were responsible for sept 11, and who these people are claiming to be linked to?we didn't declare war on al-qaeda... I disctintly remember seeing the title "war on TERROR." We all know terror thrives in Iraq... and that's why it is A front on the war on terror... We went into Iraq because it is so high-profile in the middle-east, and other nations will bend to our demands if they see Saddam and Iraq fall... already, that is beginning to hold true to our wishes.

So it is just a war to try and make a bunch of other countries do what you tell them?basically.

When the other countries are threatening to the world, are constantly fighting each other, and thrive in poverty... they clearly are unfit to govern themselves in their current state... so we go in, and root out the evil warlords and extremist leaders, and let the people elect who they wish, and have freedom of religion, and other basic civil rights.
imported_1248B
13-05-2004, 07:35
I wouldn't want to see that for anything in the world.

Question to those who want to see that beheading: why would you possibly want to see something as horrible as that?
Spherical objects
13-05-2004, 07:35
http://www.geog.ucsb.edu/~jeff/earthgifs/world.gif

No I haven't looked at the video nor any stills. I have enough imagination to 'see' in my minds eye what a be-heading looks like. Neither do I wish to see the agony and terror on the poor bastards face as he is killed. I don't wish to watch people lower on the humanity scale than pond scum carrying out butchery. I don't have to look at it, my heart goes out to the slaughtered man and his family and friends. If ever I were to meet one of them, I couldn't look them in the eye and say 'I watched the video'.
In my opinion, watching the video is the same as watching a snuff film.
I would be ashamed to watch the thing.

And just to compare the vile stuff with the abuse carried out to Iraqi prisoners by American 'soldiers'. I understand from listening to the senators that viewed the hundreds of photographs and videos that they too are appalling and inhuman. It goes without saying that (I hope to God) there is nothing as sub-human as the be-heading video. But there is a valid comparison. We have been bombarded with propoganda for a few years now that Muslim fundamentalists and groups like Quaeda are murderous butchers and the video in question here is ample proof of that. But alongside that propoganda, we have been told that this is not the way we act. We are told we are way above that and indeed, after the failure to find WMD in Iraq, all the propoganda emphasis has been on fighting this sort of evil. What the American 'soldiers' have done, as upholders of those values, is to descend to the same level. I don't care that the number of people involved (hopefully) was small, the evil and despicable fundamentalists that carry out attrocities in the name of Sadaam or Islaam are also very much the minority. It seems to me that we are all capable of creating hell on Earth. Scum is scum wherever it comes from.
Raem
13-05-2004, 07:36
Wait... how is that any worse than the video of the journalist who was captured by Al Qaeda in Pakistan? You remember, I'm sure, the video of his throat being cut open.

Tell me, do you even remember his name?

Neither of those videos bothered me.
Argyres
13-05-2004, 07:38
I've seen it and was completely disgusted.
Moozimoo
13-05-2004, 07:39
This is the link to the video.
XXXX WARNING XXXX
THE FOLLOWING VIDEO IS EXTREMELY GRAPHIC. HOWEVER, WE FEEL IT IS NECESSARY TO PROVIDE IT TO YOU IN ORDER TO SHOW YOU WHO THE ENEMY REALLY IS AND WHAT THEY ARE CAPABLE OF.
http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/bergvideo.html (http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/bergvideo.html)

link doesn't work when you finally get in there

maybe someone is trying to tell you something....
Spherical objects
13-05-2004, 07:45
[quote]we didn't declare war on al-qaeda... I disctintly remember seeing the title "war on TERROR." We all know terror thrives in Iraq... and that's why it is A front on the war on terror... We went into Iraq because it is so high-profile in the middle-east, and other nations will bend to our demands if they see Saddam and Iraq fall... already, that is beginning to hold true to our wishes.
http://www.geog.ucsb.edu/~jeff/earthgifs/world.gif

It is illegal to invade another country without first being attacked. We were told over and over again that the coalition invaded a sovereign nation to rid it of the WMD that apparently posed an immediate threat. That had and has nothing to do with the 'war on terror'. Terrorism only thrives in Iraq now as a direct consequence of our invasion. Im sorry and sad to see your gloating words that 'other nations are bending to 'our' demands'. That's how the world should be run is it? America and a few allies demand something from a foreign country and if they don't obey, thay get bombed and invaded, because they have the impertinence to 'disobey' us.
Heil!
Brindisi Dorom
13-05-2004, 07:49
Just get it off http://www.ogrish.com/. I <3 Ogrish.com, its such a cool site. Rotten.com will probably have the video pretty soon too.

The video is really crappy quality. These "terrorists" need to get better video equipment.