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If you Controled a Military That matched Te USA's

Dragoneia
12-05-2004, 22:15
What whould you do with it? I mean you would be The second super power
Other leader of the world. That much power and almost no one to stop you but America.
Colodia
12-05-2004, 22:18
Ally with America
Jordaxia
12-05-2004, 22:21
Ally with Britain, become leader of Britain, rename my Country Britain, buy Hong Kong, Australia, India, New Zealand, Canada, and Africa, then invade America.
Colodia
12-05-2004, 22:24
Ally with Britain, become leader of Britain, rename my Country Britain, buy Hong Kong, Australia, India, New Zealand, Canada, and Africa, then invade America.

you think they'll gladly sell themsevles to you?
Grandmaster Ninjas
12-05-2004, 22:35
If I controlled a military like that, I would immediatly cut almost all the funding for it, (except pay for soldiers and officers) and use those billions, perhaps even trillions of dollars for social welfare, healthcare, and education. I would also spend some of it for funding alternate power research, with the hopes of making electric cars affordable for everyone, (and not ugly as hell). Thus crushing the evil oil industry that has America by the balls. Then with the rest of the money, I would use it to help feed, shelter, and clothe the poor people of the world.
And if for some reason there was a nation that didn't like me after all the nice things I did for the world, and started war with me, I would defend my country with the mass amounts of weapons that already have been made, which are probably enough to level the entire world.
Well thats what I would do. It ashame we have never had a president who agrees with that idea, because I think its a great step towards world peace, and to elimanate the need for weapons.
Deeloleo
12-05-2004, 22:44
Hmm... If I controllerd a military force that is the equal of the US military. I'd begin to spend an absolutely ridiculous portion of my nations GNP to try to build a military superior to the US's in an attempt to intimidate the US into standing idle while I conquered the rest of the world. I'd pay absolutely no attention to the fact that my military spending was weakening my civil, governmental and economic interests to the point at which the gangsters and the most corrupt among my government wre so firmly in control that I had no choice but to disolve my government and reform. I'd leave the criminals so powerful that they'd cripple my nation. My nation would become a mere shadow of what it once was and remain so for a long time. Oh! Wait! Nevermind! :wink:
Colodia
13-05-2004, 02:54
If I controlled a military like that, I would immediatly cut almost all the funding for it, (except pay for soldiers and officers) and use those billions, perhaps even trillions of dollars for social welfare, healthcare, and education. I would also spend some of it for funding alternate power research, with the hopes of making electric cars affordable for everyone, (and not ugly as hell). Thus crushing the evil oil industry that has America by the balls. Then with the rest of the money, I would use it to help feed, shelter, and clothe the poor people of the world.
And if for some reason there was a nation that didn't like me after all the nice things I did for the world, and started war with me, I would defend my country with the mass amounts of weapons that already have been made, which are probably enough to level the entire world.
Well thats what I would do. It ashame we have never had a president who agrees with that idea, because I think its a great step towards world peace, and to elimanate the need for weapons.
I'm sure he meant that you were not America as well :wink:
The Atheists Reality
13-05-2004, 02:58
i would conquer small neighboring nations, not enough to outrage the world, just enough to put the ph34r of god in small nations
Greater Valia
13-05-2004, 02:59
destroy the world!!!1 mwahahahahaha
Letila
13-05-2004, 02:59
I would crush capitalism and government. I would also employ thin women by the thousands, assuming my country wasn't threatened by obesity, to distract American troops.

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Colodia
13-05-2004, 03:17
I would crush capitalism and government. I would also employ thin women by the thousands, assuming my country wasn't threatened by obesity, to distract American troops.

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"But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality."
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big-butted thin women?
MKULTRA
13-05-2004, 03:18
Id use it crush the Bush administration
The Atheists Reality
13-05-2004, 03:19
I would crush capitalism and government. I would also employ thin women by the thousands, assuming my country wasn't threatened by obesity, to distract American troops.



a biiiiig fight when the US and my country invade you for having WMD :D
Tumaniaa
13-05-2004, 03:52
I'd pretend to be really really irrational, so irrational and nutty that everyone would fear that if even a US tourist came over to my country I'd press that big red button...
Then I'd start a coldwar with the yanks, and watch as the world enjoys peace and stability (though with the fear of nukes raining down on them) as me and the yanks would race to build bigger bombs and send dogs to mars.
Demonic Furbies
13-05-2004, 03:54
i say combine america and my country into one undefeatible super-country and take over the world.
tehehe :twisted: :twisted:
Grandmaster Ninjas
13-05-2004, 05:46
Okay, even if I wasn't America, I'd do the same. I'd spend all that time and money that went into military, into making a country that cared about human life.
Honestly, I think the people who want war, should all war with eachother, and let the rest of us just live the way we want. But thanks to people who find it necessary to kill, my life is in jeopardy and I have done nothing to provoke this. I belive that building military force is asking for trouble. And using it like the USA does, I think causes other countries to compete with us. I mean, the only time you ever hear of Switzerland's army, is when someone is talking about a pocket knife. Well, thats just what I think and not many people like to agree, so maybe I'm just crazy thinking that war is a bad thing and should be avoided always.
Freindly Humans
13-05-2004, 05:51
Use a lot of diplomacy and have a cold war 2.0 with America. Except be in a better diplomatic posistion with the rest of the world, which at the moment wouldn't be too hard. Then watch America collapse in upon itself as I slowly cut off their trading partners, well those who America actually has a trade surplus with.
West Pacific
13-05-2004, 05:57
Hmm... If I controllerd a military force that is the equal of the US military. I'd begin to spend an absolutely ridiculous portion of my nations GNP to try to build a military superior to the US's in an attempt to intimidate the US into standing idle while I conquered the rest of the world. I'd pay absolutely no attention to the fact that my military spending was weakening my civil, governmental and economic interests to the point at which the gangsters and the most corrupt among my government wre so firmly in control that I had no choice but to disolve my government and reform. I'd leave the criminals so powerful that they'd cripple my nation. My nation would become a mere shadow of what it once was and remain so for a long time. Oh! Wait! Nevermind! :wink:

Yeah, ever hear of the Soviet Union? That is what happened to them, Reagan started building up our military, the reds tried to match it, and then they suffered a collapse in their economy and eventually the government collapsed also.
West Pacific
13-05-2004, 06:06
The Swiss are bastards, they did all sorts of work for the Nazis during WWII, they supplied Germany with their bombs to continue the war despite the heavy bombings by the allies of German factories. They helped to transport Jews across Europe, they processed money for the Nazi's, and they helped to get that money out of Europe and into Argentina. They should have been bombed also. They went unpunished until the 90's when a group of very powerful business men and lawyers in America decided that it was time for change. They brought the swiss banks to trial for not giving the jews who survived the holocaust their money and property the deposited before the way started. The swiss banks setteled out of court for $1.25 billion, enough to give every Jew still living in eastern europe $1,000, this was lower than their goal of $20 billion and enough for $10,000 for all jews still living in eastern europe, since they had lived under the nazi's then the commies.
Marineris Colonies
13-05-2004, 06:07
I would crush capitalism and government.


"Anarcho"-communism suddenly seems way less anarchic and way more Marxist. :wink:

(EDIT: And if I had control of a military that large, I would:

1) Bring any and all troops deployed overseas home
2) Spend money saved by Step 1 on things like, say, huge tax refunds
3) Use remaining military budget on defending my own nation, creating a system of armed neutrality dedicated to the cause of self-defense and peace.)
Eridanus
13-05-2004, 06:10
I would cut 99% of the army, leaving only the elite 1%, and spend all the extra money on the best war tech available. THen I would turn it into a weird secret organization, that would twist and bend world politics to it's own will, until they could safelly move in and take the world peacefully, without all out war.
Grandmaster Ninjas
13-05-2004, 06:12
Yeah, and then Reagan gave some money to a bunch of people, to fund them for elite anti soviet operatives. Then years later these same people crashed planes into the twin towers and thousands of innocent people died. (Moral of the story: money + war = bad karma).
Xenophobialand
13-05-2004, 06:17
I would do what America doesn't: the right things for the right reasons. When some jackass gets a burr in some of his citizen's behinds and they start a genocidal campaign, I'll send enough troops to rebuild the country and and enough equipment to tear every last *censored* who kills another person because of creed or religion in half with a stream of .50-calibre slugs if they don't surrender NOW. Provided they survive that, I'll then send what's left of them to the Hague for war crimes. Additionally, I'd do this irrespective of what nation it was. Whether there is genuine state interest would be irrelevant.

Moreover, I would be the world leader America refuses to be. I'd sign the Kyoto accords lickedy-split, and then I go above and beyond the call of duty. I'd be sure to find business opportunities in greening my country.

In short, I'd do what America should be doing, as opposed to its usual practice of busily sawing the legs of the chair that's currently keeping them from twisting in the wind.
Grandmaster Ninjas
13-05-2004, 06:17
I would cut 99% of the army, leaving only the elite 1%, and spend all the extra money on the best war tech available. THen I would turn it into a weird secret organization, that would twist and bend world politics to it's own will, until they could safelly move in and take the world peacefully, without all out war.
I like the way you think. I think twisting the world to your will, but with real good intentions is a good thing. It is real hard to get people to stop the hate, but I bet you could trick them into world peace with out them knowing. =D
West Pacific
13-05-2004, 15:23
I would do what America doesn't: the right things for the right reasons. When some jackass gets a burr in some of his citizen's behinds and they start a genocidal campaign, I'll send enough troops to rebuild the country and and enough equipment to tear every last *censored* who kills another person because of creed or religion in half with a stream of .50-calibre slugs if they don't surrender NOW. Provided they survive that, I'll then send what's left of them to the Hague for war crimes. Additionally, I'd do this irrespective of what nation it was. Whether there is genuine state interest would be irrelevant.

Moreover, I would be the world leader America refuses to be. I'd sign the Kyoto accords lickedy-split, and then I go above and beyond the call of duty. I'd be sure to find business opportunities in greening my country.

In short, I'd do what America should be doing, as opposed to its usual practice of busily sawing the legs of the chair that's currently keeping them from twisting in the wind.

Why the hell do you think we are in Iraq, doing what you just described, so theirfor we are doing the right thing, in your opinion of course.
Sdaeriji
13-05-2004, 15:28
I'd carve out a nice, large, aesthetically pleasing empire, and then fortify my borders and sit around and enjoy the view from my palace. Maybe I'd support regional powers in other parts of the world to extend my influences without having to commit my own citizens.
Anti-things
13-05-2004, 17:31
Well let me tell you summit, I'm British and i know for a fact that no matter how hard you train or how much better tech you have America will never match the fighting skill of the British forces, we could kick Americas ass ten times over, after all it has been proved that the British army navy and airforce is second to none not even America.
Salishe
13-05-2004, 17:34
Well let me tell you summit, I'm British and i know for a fact that no matter how hard you train or how much better tech you have America will never match the fighting skill of the British forces, we could kick Americas ass ten times over, after all it has been proved that the British army navy and airforce is second to none not even America.

Ahmmm...that is very much up for dispute seeing as how we've not had to go up against each other for well over a century and a half..so there really is no telling how well our forces would stack up against each other now is there?
Daistallia 2104
13-05-2004, 17:36
Well let me tell you summit, I'm British and i know for a fact that no matter how hard you train or how much better tech you have America will never match the fighting skill of the British forces, we could kick Americas ass ten times over, after all it has been proved that the British army navy and airforce is second to none not even America.

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Collaboration
13-05-2004, 17:39
I would focus on defensive measures and construct a utopian paradise free from threat of invasion.
Daistallia 2104
13-05-2004, 17:50
All depends on exactly what you mean and how you measure it, but my copy of How to Make War by Jim Dunnigan lists the UK after the US, China, Israel, India, Russia, S. Korea, and N. Korea, with about 10% of US war making potential. (pg. 624, 4th ed.)
Stephistan
13-05-2004, 17:59
I'd do the world a favour and make a parking lot of them! :x
Grandmaster Ninjas
13-05-2004, 18:30
Well let me tell you summit, I'm British and i know for a fact that no matter how hard you train or how much better tech you have America will never match the fighting skill of the British forces, we could kick Americas ass ten times over, after all it has been proved that the British army navy and airforce is second to none not even America.
Really, you think? Is that why we beat you in the late 1700's for our independence? Is it also why we helped save you from the Nazis in WWII? There is one thing that the American army has that no other nation can have. That is the proud, the peerless, the many, "Crazy Americans with Guns". These people love their guns and love using them, and there is no driving force more powerful than love. Except maybe hate, which these people are filled with also.
Honestly though, I hate half of America. There are too many crazy people who justify their actions with total crap. And it tends to be people from the south and midwest. Thats why I think the Westcoast and the Northeast should form a new nation, and call it The United States of People who Use Logical Thinking to Solve Problems.
Daistallia 2104
13-05-2004, 18:50
I'd do the world a favour and make a parking lot of them! :x

Wow! Steph, I never knew you had such a nilistic streak as to want to use major military power to make a "parking lot" of the world.... Don*t know if the rest of the world would consider being made a parking lot to be a favor, though.
:wink:
humor, love, and kisses. :P
Grandmaster Ninjas
13-05-2004, 19:07
I'd do the world a favour and make a parking lot of them! :x

A parking lot that big wouldn't be very good... Think how far you would need to walk to get to your car? If you are going to be nihilistic, might as well just turn them into a barren wasteland filled with geneticly altered mutant cannibals and let them devour their own kind into nothingness. Come on, what kinda Nihilist wouldn't want that?
On a random note, I always thought it would be funny to start a Nihilst political party and see how many supporters I would get. Then I'd hold a big press conference where I would address the supporters, and be like "Man, you guys are F--king Sick. I hope you get eaten by zombies" and then just leave politics forever. Oh man, that'd be so awesome.
Grandmaster Ninjas
13-05-2004, 19:16
(sorry, while posting I kept getting could not display page errors, so I kept hitting back and hitting submit again, thinking that it didnt post, but it did a few times...So sorry about these extra posts)
Stephistan
13-05-2004, 19:19
Well, of most of it any way... I would keep a small part for myself and a select few people to live in perfection and peace and harmony.. but first I'd have to get rid of every one else..


(I hope you know I'm basically joking) :lol:
Grandmaster Ninjas
13-05-2004, 19:22
(ack ignore these extra posts)
Petsburg
13-05-2004, 19:28
I would:

1) Being america down using cuning.
2) declare world peace

what else :roll:
Kwaswhakistan
13-05-2004, 19:32
If I controlled a military the size of the US's..... the world would have been blown up 20 times over in my first 5 hours of command. It would be a bad thing. Which is why I don't control anything.
The Mycon
13-05-2004, 22:08
Yeah, ever hear of the Soviet Union? That is what happened to them, Reagan started building up our military, the reds tried to match it, and then they suffered a collapse in their economy and eventually the government collapsed also.

This is slightly out of order and over-states Reagan's part in the whole matter.
First their government collapsed. Then their economy collapsed. Then their government collapsed twice more. Then their economy collapsed again. Then they tried to match our military spending. Then their government collapsed. Then Reagan stepped up building up the expensive parts of our military (including many that were never meant to be used, such as the dunce pack). Then they admitted that the second (or third?) governmental collapse may or may not have occured.

Well let me tell you summit, I'm British and i know for a fact that ... the British army ... is second to none not even America. Much like your army, that was good for a laugh.

I kinda like Grandmaster Ninja's idea. America is the world's policeman, and prevents piddling invasions from happening, whatever the reason. We'd be perfectly safe to spend that just under a trillion on something useful, instead of what is 75% a new CCC/an old boy's club. In times of war, half the navy'd be more than enough to take every country combined, save India, China, Israel, and the Japanese defense force. You could probably throw in one of those, too and we'd still come out on top. Especially if you consider the logistics of moving all that, and that half of 'em wouldn't be able to feed their military without US financial support.
West Pacific
14-05-2004, 03:06
Well let me tell you summit, I'm British and i know for a fact that no matter how hard you train or how much better tech you have America will never match the fighting skill of the British forces, we could kick Americas ass ten times over, after all it has been proved that the British army navy and airforce is second to none not even America.

BULLSHIT! You made the same mistake in 1776 and then again 1812, the first time we whipped you into pulling out and second time it was a draw. And, your Navy, it is now probably third best, the russians may still have a small edge over you, we have a huge advantage. Try this one for example, 14 super carriers, that is 13 more than any country in the world.

Your Army, well, not even a contest there, we would use you for target practice. Keep in mind, not only do we have the best weapons, we also have the best supporting class for our troops. It does not matter how good your weapons are if you run out of ammo in the first weeks of a war.

Don't forget who it was that bailed your ass out of WWII and only because we had more money invested in your country did we side with you against the Germans in WWI, Paris may have been captured if it wasn't for our 2 million troops we sent over in WWI.
Zyzyx Road
14-05-2004, 03:07
annex a part of russia and call it "COOLER THAN AMERICA"
West Pacific
14-05-2004, 03:15
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Honestly though, I hate half of America. There are too many crazy people who justify their actions with total crap. And it tends to be people from the south and midwest.

How do you figure the Midwest to be part of that equation? Because we love hunting, we are all farmers, and we all get wasted on Saturday nights? (I live in Sioux Falls, SD, by capita it is number five on the list of top ten binge drinking cities in the US, their is nothing else to do hear.) Honestly though, how are we invlolved in that figure? Did you know that a person from the midwest can go anywhere in the US and get a job because we have a reputation for good working habits? (once again, nothing to do but work and drink, some can even combine the two and be excellent at both at the same time.) We don't have a single combat unit of national guards here (South Dakota), they are all engineers and supply battalions.
West Pacific
14-05-2004, 04:42
Here is what I would do.
1. I would ally with the US.
2. We would go into the Middle East, capturing and killing all the world's terrorist at the same time.
3. We would control the world's oil market, we would slowly annex every country of the world into our empires through economic means.
4. After we each controlled half of the world we would join to form one world wide government based on the US constitution.
5. Then we would focus on colonization of other planets, lets face it people, their are aliens out there, we will eventually meet them, if we go to war we would be safer to have our people spred across the universe, that way no single disaster could wipe out our entire race.
That is my agenda.
The Atheists Reality
14-05-2004, 04:44
Here is what I would do.
1. I would ally with the US.
2. We would go into the Middle East, capturing and killing all the world's terrorist at the same time.
3. We would control the world's oil market, we would slowly annex every country of the world into our empires through economic means.
4. After we each controlled half of the world we would join to form one world wide government based on the US constitution.
5. Then we would focus on colonization of other planets, lets face it people, their are aliens out there, we will eventually meet them, if we go to war we would be safer to have our people spred across the universe, that way no single disaster could wipe out our entire race.
That is my agenda.

CRAZY! :?
West Pacific
14-05-2004, 04:59
CRAZY! :?
Not really, it is the way to do it with the least use of force, the world is run on oil, people would run out of oil and gas to heat their homes in weeks, they would be forced to come to us for the oil. OPEC has been doing it to us since the 70's, it works, America knows from first hand experience, that is a very useful tactic. If it works for them why wouldn't it work for us? Anyone? If that doesn't work, we could always use the money we saved to fund an increase in our armed forces.

P.S. I don't believe that all Arabs are terrorist, but rather that a large majority of terrorist are Arab, even more are Muslim. (Chechen rebels are non Arab muslims) Don't get me wrong, all countries have their own terrorist, it's just that the Arab countries make the most use out of it.
Tumaniaa
14-05-2004, 05:07
P.S. I don't believe that all Arabs are terrorist, but rather that a large majority of terrorist are Arab, even more are Muslim. (Chechen rebels are non Arab muslims) Don't get me wrong, all countries have their own terrorist, it's just that the Arab countries make the most use out of it.

In that case you should flatten Ireland too... They are Irish, you know, and we hear so much about Irish terrorists...
I mean...not all Irish people are terrorists, but it's where the IRA hangs out.
_Taiwan
14-05-2004, 05:24
Ally with China, invade America and SE Asia.
Grandmaster Ninjas
14-05-2004, 05:27
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Honestly though, I hate half of America. There are too many crazy people who justify their actions with total crap. And it tends to be people from the south and midwest.

How do you figure the Midwest to be part of that equation? Because we love hunting, we are all farmers, and we all get wasted on Saturday nights? (I live in Sioux Falls, SD, by capita it is number five on the list of top ten binge drinking cities in the US, their is nothing else to do hear.) Honestly though, how are we invlolved in that figure? Did you know that a person from the midwest can go anywhere in the US and get a job because we have a reputation for good working habits? (once again, nothing to do but work and drink, some can even combine the two and be excellent at both at the same time.) We don't have a single combat unit of national guards here (South Dakota), they are all engineers and supply battalions.
Its not against individuals, but majority values that come forth from the areas and are represented by the state governments. Its usually conservitives from that area that vote for military spending, for war, and against anything that makes sense. The general ideas of those areas tend to dig holes for the rest of us. Also the heavy religous presence in the south and midwest tend to cloud people's views on reality. People assume too much of their god, and fundementalists also get on my nerves, because they honestly have to be the dumbest people on earth, and here is why: They belive the bible is the LITERAL word of god, yet everything was written by experiances of men, what they saw, how they interpretted it. I mean the bible actualy says "Holy Bible. King James' Version". That is the bible everyone knows and trusts, so how could it be the word of god if it is King James' version? But anyway, don't take offence to what I say. I just have strong beliefs against people who try and defend or justify violence of anysort, including hunting. Also in less populated areas, people aren't exposed to as much diversity, including political, racial, religous, and general ways of thinking and life philosophy.
Anti-things
14-05-2004, 07:09
Well let me tell you summit, I'm British and i know for a fact that no matter how hard you train or how much better tech you have America will never match the fighting skill of the British forces, we could kick Americas ass ten times over, after all it has been proved that the British army navy and airforce is second to none not even America.
Really, you think? Is that why we beat you in the late 1700's for our independence? Is it also why we helped save you from the Nazis in WWII? There is one thing that the American army has that no other nation can have. That is the proud, the peerless, the many, "Crazy Americans with Guns". These people love their guns and love using them, and there is no driving force more powerful than love. Except maybe hate, which these people are filled with also.
Honestly though, I hate half of America. There are too many crazy people who justify their actions with total crap. And it tends to be people from the south and midwest. Thats why I think the Westcoast and the Northeast should form a new nation, and call it The United States of People who Use Logical Thinking to Solve Problems.

O.K. then is that why we survived the blitz and the whole battle of britain without you because your people didnt want to get involved in what you called a foreign war, is that why we took back africa without your help, is that why you had a staging area to invade france from, you know something its people like you that need to get the pole out your ass and work out there is a whole world that might just be better than America, and if you must know firstly the american indipendance was given not lost, we at the time needed more men and arms back in europe, and you would have been slaughtered if it wasnt for a forener, yes it was a swede i think, who had to train most of you yolkles to use a god damn rifle, thats how backward most of you were, so yes Britain has the undisputed armed forces the world over.
Anti-things
14-05-2004, 16:44
Really, you think? Is that why we beat you in the late 1700's for our independence? Is it also why we helped save you from the Nazis in WWII? There is one thing that the American army has that no other nation can have. That is the proud, the peerless, the many, "Crazy Americans with Guns". These people love their guns and love using them, and there is no driving force more powerful than love. Except maybe hate, which these people are filled with also.
Honestly though, I hate half of America. There are too many crazy people who justify their actions with total crap. And it tends to be people from the south and midwest. Thats why I think the Westcoast and the Northeast should form a new nation, and call it The United States of People who Use Logical Thinking to Solve Problems.

O.K. then is that why we survived the blitz and the whole battle of britain without you because your people didnt want to get involved in what you called a foreign war, is that why we took back africa without your help, is that why you had a staging area to invade france from, you know something its people like you that need to get the pole out your ass and work out there is a whole world that might just be better than America, and if you must know firstly the american indipendance was given not lost, we at the time needed more men and arms back in europe, and you would have been slaughtered if it wasnt for a forener, yes it was a swede i think, who had to train most of you yolkles to use a god damn rifle, thats how backward most of you were, so yes Britain has the undisputed armed forces the world over.
Anti-things
15-05-2004, 08:06
oh yeah and how the hell can you say that we lost your bout for indipendence, in the 1700's you won the first round because we were unprepared, and you guys started it in the first place, you asked the king for an indipendant government, if the king agreed you would remain loyal to the crown and if not you would fight, our parliment had nothing against it and on the return of the news to america the ship got caught up in two storms that put it behind schedule by four days, now if you had just waited then we would have given you what you wanted...but you yanks being trigger happy just couldnt wait. then the second bout when you guys made a pact with the french in canada to annialate us all and devide the land, let me see... with and under strength force we pushed the french all the way back to Quebec and the brits on the yanks side pushed them all the way back to Washington DC and we burned down your original white house, the only reason we stopped was because you lot then gave up and said it wasnt worth it and so we left you in peace. so don't tell me we drew the second time, furthermore wasnt it you guys in the second world war when you had just got into the war went onto the first shores, bands blaring and consiquently the Germans shot you to pieces, I will think if you read your history you will find that the Brits are a far more effective fighting force than you yanks will ever be.
West Pacific
15-05-2004, 08:25
Guess where the heaviest fighting of D-Day was, Omaha beach, and guess what, Omaha beach was where the Americans landed, it was the most heavily bunkered area of the invason and it was mostly ntoughed by allied bombing.

As for the war of 1812, it was a draw, here is why.
You burnt down our original white house, we defeated your ships as they attempted to attack Baltimore.
You repelled our attepted invasion of Canada, we crushed your Great Lakes fleet.
We attacked and captured your forts east of the Mississippi, I don't know what you did in return, gave up or something I guess.

Our goals of the war of 1812 were to force the British to give up their forts east of the Mississippi and to stop you from arming the indians to fight us, we did both. What were your intentions? Make the US a proper part of the empire again? Interesting thing was, you were winning all of the battles before Napolean Surrendered, then, once France was out of the way you were able to concentrate on us and we started beating you, first at Fort McHenry, then on the Great Lakes. I don't know why we realy bothered fighting that war, the treaties that followed the War of 1812 did lead the our countries eventually putting aside our differences, their was however that little while during the American Civil War that you supported the CSA, that probably set things back a little but not too much, since we ended up winning the Battle of Gettysburg and you guys never did join the CSA against us.
Anti-things
15-05-2004, 19:09
Actually Omaha beach wasnt Omaha beach, you yanks were stupid enough to land on the heaviest defended beach about 5 miles from where you were supposed to land, its funny that you yanks only made such a cock-up.

and er or intentions in 1776 were to agree on your terms that you would remain loyal to the crown if we gave you an indipendant government, didnt you read my last post right the way through, and thats what im tryin to say you people wont even read something through properly, you can have the strongest army in the world cos of numbers but its how you use it that counts, wasnt it so with pearl harbour, if the yanks are that good then why in hell did you leave all of your fleet in the one harbour, I mean even the russians who dont have the safest ships in the world, would have thought about that first.