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*Raises a beer for all the pot smokers out there*

In England, Pot has been de-classified to a class C drug... which means you are unlikely to be arrested or charged if you're caught in possession! However, the cops will confiscate it off you. :(

I love smoking pot, makes you feel amazing. Don't get me wrong guys, I literally smoke a joint once a week (and less) and it really is a very social thing. If you are the adventurous type, I seriously advise you to try it out.

Remember, don't smoke it too frequently, otherwise it loses it's appeal.

/\/\ Robbo /\/\

because no one has ever accomplished anything great while under the influence.

Because the people that I have seen use it are stupid when they are on it and not much better when they are not.

Because I would rather spend my time and money doing things outside, rather than just smoking up my lungs to laugh

Because it is against the law and the risks are not worth the so called benifits.

Becuase pot smokers are annoying wankers.

because no one has ever accomplished anything great while under the influence.

I suppose that is debateable (sp?) due to the subjective word 'great'

Because the people that I have seen use it are stupid when they are on it and not much better when they are not.

Again, your opinion. But why should others try to be 'better' in your eyes?

Because I would rather spend my time and money doing things outside, rather than just smoking up my lungs to laugh

Doing what exactly? Pot is not that expensive. Far cheaper than most past times, especially if only done rarely (by which I mean once a week). Plus pot doesn't just 'make you laugh'

Because it is against the law and the risks are not worth the so called benifits.

You obey all the laws :shock: ? Also the risks in Britain (as mentioned) are only confistation (sp?), so the risks aren't that severe. If your talking about health (physical and psychological) risks, smoking it in moderation does little if any harm.

because no one has ever accomplished anything great while under the influence.



...if you don't believe drugs have done good things for us, do me a favor, go home tonight, take all your albums, all your tapes, and all your CDs and burn 'em. Cause you know what, the musicians who made all that great music - that enhanced your lives throughout the years?

Rrrrrrrrrrrrreal fucking high on drugs.

Man, the Beatles were so high they let Ringo sing a couple of tunes.



Because the people that I have seen use it are stupid when they are on it and not much better when they are not.


I'm SO stupid! (http://www.cgnw30832.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/psychometrictest.jpg)

Count the bars that go off the scale. Hey, statwanking is fun when you're a brainiac!


Because I would rather spend my time and money doing things outside, rather than just smoking up my lungs to laugh


Hey man, I'm not stopping you.

Also: PAINTBALLS CAN SERIOUSLY DAMAGE YOUR HANDS (http://www.cgnw30832.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/paintball%20trophy.jpg)

Strange people assuming I have no life...


Because it is against the law and the risks are not worth the so called benifits.

Is it wrong because it is against the law, or is it against the law because it is wrong? If it is against the law, then is it wrong, or is the law wrong? And if the law is wrong, how do you change the law?

Unjust and tyrannical laws, in my opinion, should be treated with the respect they deserve. And I'm quite prepared to do whatever time is required. If more people were like that, we might not have unjust and tyrannical laws.

Oh hang on... cannabis has just been downgraded, hasn't it? Could that be because if you were to lock up everyone breaking that law, you would need to turn the entire damned country into a prison?

I reckon that if the illegal nature of cannabis were undone, the amount of people smoking it with any regularity would drop. Of course that's just my opinion, but I would urge you to think before blindly supporting everything your government tells you.

I love smoking pot, makes you feel amazing. Don't get me wrong guys, I literally smoke a joint once a week (and less) and it really is a very social thing. If you are the adventurous type, I seriously advise you to try it out.


i know i'm a lone voice here, but i don't like it. i tried it plenty of times (mostly when i lived in Kentucky). I really never found it that great. :|

because no one has ever accomplished anything great while under the influence.



...if you don't believe drugs have done good things for us, do me a favor, go home tonight, take all your albums, all your tapes, and all your CDs and burn 'em. Cause you know what, the musicians who made all that great music - that enhanced your lives throughout the years?

Rrrrrrrrrrrrreal f--- high on drugs.

Man, the Beatles were so high they let Ringo sing a couple of tunes.


Ahh, you got that quote in before me. Its so true.

because no one has ever accomplished anything great while under the influence.



...if you don't believe drugs have done good things for us, do me a favor, go home tonight, take all your albums, all your tapes, and all your CDs and burn 'em. Cause you know what, the musicians who made all that great music - that enhanced your lives throughout the years?

Rrrrrrrrrrrrreal f--- high on drugs.

Man, the Beatles were so high they let Ringo sing a couple of tunes.

I like the Bill Hicks quote, so I'm banking mine off that:
Carl Sagan. Pot head. Brilliant.

Look, the pot heads you meet and know are pot heads are the ones with pot leaf beenies quoting Jay (of Jay & Silent Bob), and yeah, they can be annoying. But then there are all those other people who smoke it and do other things with their lives that you never know about because if you're not into it, they don't talk to you about it.

Most of the people I hang with are educators(they are now. When I met them they where becoming educators. I myself don't run in those circles except with them) Respected educators that smoke out.

i know i'm a lone voice here, but i don't like it. i tried it plenty of times (mostly when i lived in Kentucky). I really never found it that great.
First of all, you should come to Nor Cal if you want the good stuff...local pride aside..
This is really the people we should foster (presuming something of Gaspode, granting it might not be true in his/her case). People who may or may not have tried it and decided it was not for them but are willing to leave those who do like alone. That's the tentpole that will hold things up.

I'm not asking that I be able to smoke up in the streets or in front of your kids (as a policy, I won't even talk about it to people who are underage. You have to figure yourself out clear before you can appriciate the change). I don't even really need a public establishment (though it would be nice to have a safe place to go to hang out with some like minded individuals). I just want to be able to puff up, watch some TV and eat some snacks without some judgmental ass hassling me about it. Your SUVs piss me off, but I don't call for them to be banned. I'll try and talk you out of buying one, you'll try to talk me out of smoking and at night we'll go to our neutral corners and complain about how blinded each other is. Deal?

i know i'm a lone voice here, but i don't like it. i tried it plenty of times (mostly when i lived in Kentucky). I really never found it that great. :|

I don't like it myself (it makes me paranoid) but my friends do. My girlfriend and my housemates generally smoke it on average once a week and I find their company pleasant and amusing even though I don't smoke it.

Rrrrrrrrrrrrreal f--- high on drugs.

Man, the Beatles were so high they let Ringo sing a couple of tunes.


No-one says it better than Hicks.

I smoke - fairly regularly - and I have completed some of my finest, IMO, pieces of art and music while stoned. And to the naysayers and people who think weed makes you a useless lifeform, let me tell you a metaphor:

I think of the mind as a lit room at night. Everything is clear around you in the room, you can see all the objects clearly, yet looking out the windows you can't see much. Smoking weed dims or turns off that light. Sure, things in the room may be a little harder to see now, but you'll get used to it and what's more, everything outside the room is much easier to see.

Being stoned may dull your ability at trigonometry or calculating equations, but your imagination is free to run wild and your appreciation for fine details of music and art is heightened. Concepts and ideas which seemed confusing and high-browed suddenly appear to make sense. Conversations between peers can take deep, meaningful turns, and strangely I seem to be able to catch and throw things much better.

Ganja isn't for everyone, but just because you've seen some idiot running about shouting 'snootchiebootchiewootchies' and claiming 'I'm soooooo stoned man', don't write off the millions of people who harmlessly take pot and create from it.

I'm sorry...it's the law, pure and simple..you don't break it because you believe it to be harmless or not as bad as something else..you want to smoke it legally...you change the Criminal Code, not break it and don't care if you don't break it...

As a recovering alchoholic 12 yrs dry I can tell you that while those who have smoked here on this post may not do anything more harsher, and there have been arguments pro and con that marijuana is a gateway drug. Yes..I've met people who only smoke pot..but every hard user of herion, cocaine, crack, acid...etc..I ever saw admitted into my hospital started out with just marijuana...and as their body became adjusted to the tolerance..they needed more just to get the same high..same thing happened when I drank...oh sure..started out as a beer on a friday nite as a young Marine..before long it was a 6 pack on that friday nite..then a few during the week...before long I was drinking whiskey with those beer chasers..long Island teas, mai tais, jack and cokes..bourbon, vodka, tequila, and even saki when overseas.

Next thing you know..I was getting drunk out in the field when training, if I couldn't get liquor or beer I was going to the medical corpsman for robotussin and getting what we called a "robotrip"...as we all now..robotussion prime ingredient is codeine or a form of it.. instant high if you guzzled a bottle.

Well...I could go on..but needless to say that while you gents may only do marijuna now...every hard user I've ever known has started out with Marijuna.

Suffice it to say that I wanted my sons to get high off of life..I was sober and clean..I wanted them to be the same.

i know i'm a lone voice here, but i don't like it. i tried it plenty of times (mostly when i lived in Kentucky). I really never found it that great. :|

I don't like it myself (it makes me paranoid) but my friends do. My girlfriend and my housemates generally smoke it on average once a week and I find their company pleasant and amusing even though I don't smoke it.

Yeah, i have no problem with anyone smoking it around me. i actually quite like the smell, & it certainly doesn't spoil the company.

I've been smoking for nearly 20 years now, and I've never once been tempted to try anything harder. Never shot heroin, never snorted coke, never dropped xtc. The idea that pot is a gateway drug is assanine. People that go on to harder drugs would have done so anyway.
Being a musician, I can tell you that pot DOES have benefits way beyond getting high. It allows me to focus on the music to a point where I'm feeling it, not just hearing it. It also helps with the carpel tunnel/arthritis that seems to go along with playing guitar. And don't tell me I'm a criminal for smoking a joint every night when most people drink themselves into oblivion every night. At least I'm not gonna kill someone in my car.
On a side note:Marijuana can be used for more than just a narcotic. Did you know the original Levi jeans were made out of hemp? Did you know that hemp seeds contain more protein than just about every other type? Did you know that hemp can be made into a non-toxic fuel? Don't just listen to the propoganda the Gov. puts out. Feed your head, people!

I've been smoking for nearly 20 years now, and I've never once been tempted to try anything harder. Never shot heroin, never snorted coke, never dropped xtc. The idea that pot is a gateway drug is assanine. People that go on to harder drugs would have done so anyway.
Being a musician, I can tell you that pot DOES have benefits way beyond getting high. It allows me to focus on the music to a point where I'm feeling it, not just hearing it. It also helps with the carpel tunnel/arthritis that seems to go along with playing guitar. And don't tell me I'm a criminal for smoking a joint every night when most people drink themselves into oblivion every night. At least I'm not gonna kill someone in my car.
On a side note:Marijuana can be used for more than just a narcotic. Did you know the original Levi jeans were made out of hemp? Did you know that hemp seeds contain more protein than just about every other type? Did you know that hemp can be made into a non-toxic fuel? Don't just listen to the propoganda the Gov. puts out. Feed your head, people!

i know i'm a lone voice here, but i don't like it. i tried it plenty of times (mostly when i lived in Kentucky). I really never found it that great.
First of all, you should come to Nor Cal if you want the good stuff...local pride aside..
This is really the people we should foster (presuming something of Gaspode, granting it might not be true in his/her case). People who may or may not have tried it and decided it was not for them but are willing to leave those who do like alone. That's the tentpole that will hold things up.

I see, so the support of the non-cannabis-smokers is a stronger voice, in a way, than just the smokers.



I'm not asking that I be able to smoke up in the streets or in front of your kids (as a policy, I won't even talk about it to people who are underage. You have to figure yourself out clear before you can appriciate the change). I don't even really need a public establishment (though it would be nice to have a safe place to go to hang out with some like minded individuals). I just want to be able to puff up, watch some TV and eat some snacks without some judgmental ass hassling me about it. Your SUVs piss me off, but I don't call for them to be banned. I'll try and talk you out of buying one, you'll try to talk me out of smoking and at night we'll go to our neutral corners and complain about how blinded each other is. Deal?

yeah, i guess i would prefer there to be some restrictions like that, but what folk do in their own home or with like-minded people is their business.

Well...I could go on..but needless to say that while you gents may only do marijuna now...every hard user I've ever known has started out with Marijuna.

Suffice it to say that I wanted my sons to get high off of life..I was sober and clean..I wanted them to be the same.

That is a fair point. But it depends on the person. I started out with marijuana, tried a few other things, and decided I didn't enjoy them as much. I now smoke marijuana about once or twice a month (I know, thats hardly anything compared to most users. But it used to be a lot more) and won't touch anything else apart from alcohol...its entirely dependent on the person. Just the same with alcohol, some can handle it without becoming dependent, some can't.

it stinks and the stench of old pot smoke on clothing, in the carpets and drapes, in your hair is revolting
on users its the worst kind of BO
yuck

Gaspode you arent a lone voice. I've tried it a good few times and i never did anything for me. It was basically like smoking tobacco. I dont get the whole attraction.

Not all drugs are good, now. Okay? Some of em are great. Just gotta know your way around em that's all.

No, I don't do drugs anymore, either. But I'll tell you something about drugs. I used to do drugs, but I'll tell you something honestly about drugs, honestly, and I know it's not a very popular idea, you don't hear it very often anymore, but it is the truth: I had a great time doing drugs. Sorry. Never murdered anyone, never robbed anyone, never raped anyone, never beat anyone, never lost a job, a car, a house, a wife or kids, laughed my ass off, and went about my day.

They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated.

Lie!

When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the focking effort.

There is a difference.

(toke, toke, toke) Sure I can get up at dawn (toke, toke), go to a job I hate, that does not inspire me creatively whatsoever, for the rest of my focking life.

Or I can wake up at noon and learn how to play the sitar!"

Nging nging nging now.

Pretty simple when it's spelled out in black and white isn't it?

Why is marijuana against the law? It grows naturally upon our planet. Doesn't the idea of making nature against the law seem to you a bit... unnatural? You know what I mean? It's nature. How do you make nature against the focking law?

The war on drugs to me is absolutely phoney, its so obviously phoney, ok? It's a war against our civil rights, that's all it is. They're using it to make us afraid to go out at night, afraid of each other, so that we lock ourselves in our homes and they get suspending our rights one by one.

You know. Only thing I've ever heard about pot is that pot might lower sperm count.

Good!

There's too many focking people in the world. Someone needs to say that by the way. Tired of this, "Hey hey aren't we the coolest. Humans are so neat."

Too many of yer. Quit rutting, just for a focking day. Let's work out this food/air deal. Then go back to your rutting. But I'll tell you this. Where's this idea that childbirth is a miracle came from. Ha, I missed that focking meeting, okay?

"It's a miracle, childbirth is a miracle."

No it's not. No more than a miracle than eating food and a turd coming out of your ass. It's a chemical reaction, that's all it focking is. If, you you wanna know what a miracle is. Raisin' a kid that doesn't talk in a movie theatre. Okay, there, there, there is a goddam miracle. It's not a miracle if every nine months any yin yang in the world can drop a litter of mewling cabbages on our planet.

And just in case you haven't seen the single mom statistics lately, the miracle is spreading like wild-fire. "Hallelujah!" Trailer parks and council flats all over the world just filling up with little miracles. Thunk, thunk, thunk, like frogs laying eggs.

"Thunk, look at all my little miracles, thunk, filling up my trailer like a sardine can. Thunk. You know what would be a real miracle, if I could remember your daddy's name, aargh, thunk. I guess I'll have to call you Lorry Driver Junior. Thunk. That's all I remember about your daddy was his fuzzy little pot-belly riding on top of me shooting his caffeine ridden semen into my belly to produce my little water-headed miracle baby, urgh. There's your brother, Pizza Boy Delivery Junior."

"Hallelujah!" Hold on for a minute, let's figure out this food/air deal okay? Okay. I'm just weird, you know? How about have a neat world for kids to come to? Ha haokay it's me, fock it. Drop 'em like focking flies, boom, just full up the world with em. I just don't get it you know, I mean I'm sorry man, you know kids are fine, just keep em away from me. Alright there, alright.

Here is my final point, oh thank you God. About drugs, about alcohol, about pornography, whatever that is. What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, or take into my body as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet? And for those of you out there who're having a little moral dilemma in your head about how to answer that question, I'll answer it for you - none of your focking business. Take that to the bank, cash it, and go focking on a vacation out of my life.

i don't smoke pot because it mostly just makes me hungry and sleepy. i've had some good times while smoking up, but in general there are other things i would rather do.

but i will be the first to shoot down anybody who claims drugs make you stupid or only stupid people use drugs. i used heavily all the way through high school, and was even on valium and LSD when i gave my graduation speech, and i was valedictorian of my graduating class of 350. i'm about to graduate college with a tripple major, and i've been accepted to a biomedical sciences graduate program. i don't think i'm a genius, and i don't mean to brag, but i know i'm not stupid or lazy or a loser.

doing drugs is like anything else, you have to have perspective. you can seriously screw your life up with drugs, or your life can be totally screwed up and lead you to drugs. but you can also be a healthy, happy, intelligent person who is able to admit that you like substances other than food and water.

It is a matter of culture. In Peru, they start directly at cocaïn because that's their culture. Elsewhere they drink beer, wine, smoke pot, sake, some eat fish, others do sports. Adrenalin is a drug as well, so is endorphin. Start doing sport and you'll need more and more until sport does not make you happy anymore. Ask Maradonna about it. Be a TV show star and be hailed by your public every night. That creates adrenalin. When the thing stops, you run the risk of be very very disappointed and sad, and then you run the risk of starting taking heroïn. Everybody needs a drug, be it meditation, religion, sport, sex, monye, the public (for the rock stars), or whatever, and you need it increasilly. When you have it at the same level for a long time you are not happy anymore.

...Suffering is the cause of all Desire is the cause of all Suffering is the cause of all Desire is the cause of all Suffering is the cause of all Desire is the cause of all Suffering is the cause of all Desire is the cause of all Suffering is the cause of all Desire is the cause of all Sufffering...

-Buddha-

Because I'm not a fool

I hope for all of you touting how good it is to never ever break the law, that you never drive above the speed limit. Or cross a road without waiting at an intersection or crosswalk. Since you know, jaywalkers and anyone who drives 56 mph in a 55 mph zone are criminals, plain and simple! And deserve nothing but DEATH!

Also, jaywalking in particular is what they call a "gateway crime." Studies show that at least 88% of convicted murderers have committed the crime of jaywalking. The conclusion is all too clear: jaywalking = murder!

And don't even get me started on speeding! Any speeding whatsoever! I don't care if you're in a rush, or if you're just going with the flow of traffic, the law is sacrosanct and must not be violated! Did you know that nearly ALL convicted rapists started out with minor traffic violations? The evidence is there, the conclusion is all too clear! Speeding is a gateway crime!

I hope for all of you touting how good it is to never ever break the law, that you never drive above the speed limit. Or cross a road without waiting at an intersection or crosswalk. Since you know, jaywalkers and anyone who drives 56 mph in a 55 mph zone are criminals, plain and simple! And deserve nothing but DEATH!

Also, jaywalking in particular is what they call a "gateway crime." Studies show that at least 88% of convicted murderers have committed the crime of jaywalking. The conclusion is all too clear: jaywalking = murder!

And don't even get me started on speeding! Any speeding whatsoever! I don't care if you're in a rush, or if you're just going with the flow of traffic, the law is sacrosanct and must not be violated! Did you know that nearly ALL convicted rapists started out with minor traffic violations? The evidence is there, the conclusion is all too clear! Speeding is a gateway crime!

Tell you what SB....I'll give you a guided tour of my hospital's detox unit and morgue...let you browse over our death certificates, and drug addicts who regularly utilize our emergency rooms , not only of Cooper University Medical Center, Camden NJ but also of Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital, Rancocas Regional Hospital, Kennedy Health Systems, Virtual Healthcare Systems..practical experience has taught me that while not every pot smoke will go onto more hard drugs..EVERY hard user that has become addicted or used hard drugs started out with marijuana..so while it is contested whether or not marijuana is a gateway drug..it nonetheless has been used in that purpose.

I love that for a forum title.
I know things are wrong with it, but I enjoy it. I don't push it on anyone, only doing it in private and with friends who also smoke. I don't particularly like drinking, but don't mind if others do it if they enjoy it. As long as they don't harm me and I don't harm them, what's the problem? I don't expect everyone to like it, but I just don't like other people saying what is right or wrong.
Personally, I think drunk people act worse than stoned people, but hey, that's their choice.

Has your practical experience given you any other correlations?

Like, has every hard drug user known 1 or more black people in their lives? Eaten at McDonald's?

If I were in your position, I too would be looking for a scapegoat to blame the horror on. Fatal addictions are pretty bad, whatever the addiction may be.

But if you want to draw conclusions based on what you can use as a gateway drug, you can correlate nearly anything you want, and it's far too easy to do so.

The reality is, it's a lot more complex than taking marijuana ---> heroin overdose. Or for that matter, jaywalking --- > murder. Too many factors, too many unknowns; you don't know everything about those in that morgue of yours, and while they may have started with marijuana, they clearly had other problems that went deeper than that.

Jaywalk, if you want to, as long as you don't stupidly get hit by a car, or go on to real crimes based on that. Smoke marijuana, if you want to, as long as you don't stupidly get addicted or go on to highly dangerous drugs based on that.

I think we can probably both agree if people could manage their lives better and were less ignorant, social problems like you describe would cease to be so prevalent. (Of course, that's a very big 'if'...)

I love that for a forum title.
I know things are wrong with it, but I enjoy it. I don't push it on anyone, only doing it in private and with friends who also smoke. I don't particularly like drinking, but don't mind if others do it if they enjoy it. As long as they don't harm me and I don't harm them, what's the problem? I don't expect everyone to like it, but I just don't like other people saying what is right or wrong.
Personally, I think drunk people act worse than stoned people, but hey, that's their choice.

The problem here in the US though alchohol is at present, not illegal to use, make, or distribute while it is illegal..right or wrong matter not into this...a person can simply not break the law because they themselves feel they don't have to obey the law..want the law changed...then fine..change the Criminal Code....not break the law...but work within it.

hey guys, could u please tell me how much does it cost in your country?
here in east europe (baltic states, if more exactly it cost about 8 pounds per gramme..
i'm just curiuos to know how prices vary..

as for me, i practice sometimes, but not regulary.. well, i think that it should be legalised the way u have in britain, as know people, who are smoking pot are treated as serious offenders ;D

hey guys, could u please tell me how much does it cost in your country?
here in east europe (baltic states, if more exactly it cost about 8 pounds per gramme..
i'm just curiuos to know how prices vary..

as for me, i practice sometimes, but not regulary.. well, i think that it should be legalised the way u have in britain, as know people, who are smoking pot are treated as serious offenders ;D

prefer drinking

prefer drinking

of course it's a personal choice.. i know several people who almost do not feel any different after smoking.. in that situation i would also choose drinking, but pot has it advantageous..
1) u can drive after smoking (of course in case if not too much :)
2) u wont't fell "under the weather" next morning etc.

I hope for all of you touting how good it is to never ever break the law, that you never drive above the speed limit. Or cross a road without waiting at an intersection or crosswalk. Since you know, jaywalkers and anyone who drives 56 mph in a 55 mph zone are criminals, plain and simple! And deserve nothing but DEATH!

Also, jaywalking in particular is what they call a "gateway crime." Studies show that at least 88% of convicted murderers have committed the crime of jaywalking. The conclusion is all too clear: jaywalking = murder!

And don't even get me started on speeding! Any speeding whatsoever! I don't care if you're in a rush, or if you're just going with the flow of traffic, the law is sacrosanct and must not be violated! Did you know that nearly ALL convicted rapists started out with minor traffic violations? The evidence is there, the conclusion is all too clear! Speeding is a gateway crime!

Tell you what SB....I'll give you a guided tour of my hospital's detox unit and morgue...let you browse over our death certificates, and drug addicts who regularly utilize our emergency rooms , not only of Cooper University Medical Center, Camden NJ but also of Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital, Rancocas Regional Hospital, Kennedy Health Systems, Virtual Healthcare Systems..practical experience has taught me that while not every pot smoke will go onto more hard drugs..EVERY hard user that has become addicted or used hard drugs started out with marijuana..so while it is contested whether or not marijuana is a gateway drug..it nonetheless has been used in that purpose.

Your emotional plea does nothing to address his point. By your use of the word "every" above, it's also pretty clear that you're making assumptions, because nothing is that absolute nor could you possibly know if it were. I don't care how many dead junkies you've seen, the fact remains that all you've got is a correlation, nothing more.

I don't smoke "weed" because it doesn't get me high, its way too weak, even with the really expensive stuff. I stick to hashish, LSD, and on occasion I'll smoke heroin, opium, and snort a little coke.

I hope for all of you touting how good it is to never ever break the law, that you never drive above the speed limit. Or cross a road without waiting at an intersection or crosswalk. Since you know, jaywalkers and anyone who drives 56 mph in a 55 mph zone are criminals, plain and simple! And deserve nothing but DEATH!

Also, jaywalking in particular is what they call a "gateway crime." Studies show that at least 88% of convicted murderers have committed the crime of jaywalking. The conclusion is all too clear: jaywalking = murder!

And don't even get me started on speeding! Any speeding whatsoever! I don't care if you're in a rush, or if you're just going with the flow of traffic, the law is sacrosanct and must not be violated! Did you know that nearly ALL convicted rapists started out with minor traffic violations? The evidence is there, the conclusion is all too clear! Speeding is a gateway crime!

Tell you what SB....I'll give you a guided tour of my hospital's detox unit and morgue...let you browse over our death certificates, and drug addicts who regularly utilize our emergency rooms , not only of Cooper University Medical Center, Camden NJ but also of Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital, Rancocas Regional Hospital, Kennedy Health Systems, Virtual Healthcare Systems..practical experience has taught me that while not every pot smoke will go onto more hard drugs..EVERY hard user that has become addicted or used hard drugs started out with marijuana..so while it is contested whether or not marijuana is a gateway drug..it nonetheless has been used in that purpose.

Just a question. How many of your hard drug addicts started smoking cigarettes first. Just because all (except one) the pot smokers I know started smoking fags first.

Personally I prefer pot over alcohol because
a) I don't feel awful the next day.
b) I don't get black outs off pot
c) I don't regret things after pot
d) I can continue some semblence of normality with pot.
e) I continue to function reasonably.

I have more.

Just a question. How many of your hard drug addicts started smoking cigarettes first. Just because all (except one) the pot smokers I know started smoking fags first.

Personally I prefer pot over alcohol because
a) I don't feel awful the next day.
b) I don't get black outs off pot
c) I don't regret things after pot
d) I can continue some semblence of normality with pot.
e) I continue to function reasonably.

I have more.

i'm absolutely with ya.. these are good reasons..
ofcourse for everyday, it's better alcohol

I'm just not that interested in smoking pot.

Hmmm I've smoked pot on and off for 15 years and it's never been a "gateway" drug. I've never tried shrooms or LSD because I knew I wouldn't be able to handle a multi hour trip, and never tried coke or anything else because I knew I'd probably like it but couldn't afford to use. 8) If you ask me, the real "gateway" drug would have to be alcohol anyway...ask how many teens and pre-teens have taken a drink from their parents glass. :roll: I got drunk waaaay before I've ever physically seen pot. The whole gateway thing is purely BS anyway, you either have an addictive personality or you don't. :shock:

Just a question. How many of your hard drug addicts started smoking cigarettes first. Just because all (except one) the pot smokers I know started smoking fags first.

Personally I prefer pot over alcohol because
a) I don't feel awful the next day.
b) I don't get black outs off pot
c) I don't regret things after pot
d) I can continue some semblence of normality with pot.
e) I continue to function reasonably.

I have more.

That's a good start, quite a good comparison with the legal drugs.

- Pot costs money
- It's gone after you use it
- It's bad for you

Good enough for me.

...and never tried coke or anything else because I knew I'd probably like it but couldn't afford to use.

And cause it's the wrong f'n direction, dammit! This is one of the things that really bugs me when people who haven't done drugs starts off on. Weed and coke, or the harder drugs, or even different drugs, the high is different. It's not so much that a high is a high. I don't want the high you get off meth, it doesn't apeal to me on a sense level. I don't want to feel that particular way. Different types of drug users don't even neccisarily get along.

But people, usually who have never done drugs, lump all drug users together making the gateway myth believable to them. The only real simularity is that they are all illegal.

For the 'law is the law' argument, I take my cue from Thoreua. Civil dissobedience.

I leave the rest of Plan's post, cause it's pretty clear.

If you ask me, the real "gateway" drug would have to be alcohol anyway...ask how many teens and pre-teens have taken a drink from their parents glass. :roll: I got drunk waaaay before I've ever physically seen pot. The whole gateway thing is purely BS anyway, you either have an addictive personality or you don't. :shock:

I cant stand the smell of weed and smoke. Thats why. And I cant even think of the confrontation Id have to have with my family if they found out.

If you are on weed you can fuck off!

I cant stand the smell of weed and smoke. Thats why. And I cant even think of the confrontation Id have to have with my family if they found out.

weed smells like butter-I wish they could bottle that smell

I cant stand the smell of weed and smoke. Thats why. And I cant even think of the confrontation Id have to have with my family if they found out.

weed smells like butter I wish they can bottle that smell

If you are on weed you can f--- off!
If nothing else, pot smokers are waaaaayyyyy more relaxed than this guy...

If you are on weed you can f--- off!

thats anti drug bigotry

A government is supposed to protect the safety and the rights of individuals under their rule. "pot doesn't hurt anybody" tell that to the stoned guy who just killed an old lady while she was crossing the street (at a crosswalk). Where i live smoking tobacco is banned in public spaces because it is disgusting. What makes pot less revolting than tabacco? Right now pot is illegal so that it is less visible to the general public. If it was legalized the negative sides would be more prevelent and be exploited just like alchohol by heroin supporters. If we let pot slide who's to say where it will end.

A government is supposed to protect the safety and the rights of individuals under their rule. "pot doesn't hurt anybody" tell that to the stoned guy who just killed an old lady while she was crossing the street (at a crosswalk). Where i live smoking tobacco is banned in public spaces because it is disgusting. What makes pot less revolting than tabacco? Right now pot is illegal so that it is less visible to the general public. If it was legalized the negative sides would be more prevelent and be exploited just like alchohol by heroin supporters. If we let pot slide who's to say where it will end.

A government is supposed to protect the safety and the rights of individuals under their rule. "pot doesn't hurt anybody" tell that to the stoned guy who just killed an old lady while she was crossing the street (at a crosswalk). Where i live smoking tobacco is banned in public spaces because it is disgusting. What makes pot less revolting than tabacco? Right now pot is illegal so that it is less visible to the general public. If it was legalized the negative sides would be more prevelent and be exploited just like alchohol by heroin supporters. If we let pot slide who's to say where it will end.

thats totally bogus--99.9% of all accidents are caused by alcohol for starters not pot (which makes you drive SAFER if anything)--also theres already laws on the books to punish people for driving while intoxicated and that wont change if pot gets legalized

If you are on weed you can f--- off!

Hmm, I don't know about either Greece or Cyprus, but I can f-ck off whenever I feel like it. If you need weed for that, G&C, you may wish to see a physician.

because smoking weed gives you dain bramage!!!

Honestly, I don't find anything wrong with smoking marijuana, legally, morally, or otherwise. But it annoys me to no end the way some people treat it like a life-calling and pressure others to bask in the mellow bliss, like it's the latest cult. Pot as a hobby is fine; just remember that other people don't always give a damn about your hobbies.

It makes me lazy... And I don't like that.

A government is supposed to protect the safety and the rights of individuals under their rule. "pot doesn't hurt anybody" tell that to the stoned guy who just killed an old lady while she was crossing the street (at a crosswalk). Where i live smoking tobacco is banned in public spaces because it is disgusting. What makes pot less revolting than tabacco? Right now pot is illegal so that it is less visible to the general public. If it was legalized the negative sides would be more prevelent and be exploited just like alchohol by heroin supporters. If we let pot slide who's to say where it will end.

Yeah you see, so what you do is expand the DUI influences to cover people driving while stoned.
Go look at the Netherlands, one of the most prosperous and law abiding societies in the West even though (Oh my God! The horror! Think of the Children!!) Pot has been legal there for years.

That's what no one has brought up yet. You want an example of the dangers (or lack thereof, when handled responsibly) inherent in a society which has legalised soft drugs, go look at the Netherlands.

http://www.ukcia.org/research/adolescents.htm

BTW the bolded part of your statement was incomprehensible- could you elaborate?

I don't do drugs. Nyborg told me not to, so I'll stick by that, I'll take her wisdom and experience on this one.

Did the pot/hash thing on and off for 3 years. Got bored with it. Quit. Haven't smoked in going on 3 years.

ya, nyborg told me that one too. thats why i stopped.

I quite simply have better things to do. I'm lazy enough as it is :wink:

I assume you wouldn't want us asking you the same question, vice versa...

Why do you smoke pot? There's nothing you can do on it that you can't do off it.

Thats perfectly valid. As is the question in the OP.

As a non-pot-smoker, I feel thateveryone should be free to choose whteher or not to smoke pot.

I used to smoke it all day, like 5-10 joints every day... for 4 years.

I quit like a few weeks ago... without ANY problem.
So weed isn't addictive.
And since I never smoked sigarettes, I'm not gonna start smoking them now.
Nicotine is one of the most addictive substances ever know to mankind. (especially when they fume-boil it in ammonium, like most tobacco companies do).
So everyone smoking fags and pointing nasty fingers to pot-smokers are being hypocrits.

Besides all this. Canabis has been outlawed by fascism.
(fascism being the ruling and making laws of a country by industry and government under the flag of nationalism)
Dupont in America and other petrochemical corporations banned and demonified the use of canabis because the hemp industry would destroy their fortunes.
It would replace cotton for cloth, wood for paper, oil for energy, and it's edible and can be used for beerbrewing!!!
Clothes, foor, energy are some of the cornerstones of any society...
So I can see why they banned it... it would have ruined them...

There is no other reason for outlawing it's use.

Luckily I live in Belgium where I'm allowed to smoke it and police don't take it away anymore... heck! they smoke it themselves.


I smoked it too much, that's why I quit...
But I graduated as a biotechnologist on weed... did every examn on weed, and passed, I did my teacher's degree on weed and got the best grades in my class for that... I'm just saying, weed didn't make me into a stupid person or a negative one.
I just liked being mellow and it broadened my vision on lot's of stuff.

If you like it, you like it...
If you don't, then don't...

Whatever!
Just don't force your view on other people, that's how wars get started...

I used to smoke it all day, like 5-10 joints every day... for 4 years.

I quit like a few weeks ago... without ANY problem.
So weed isn't addictive.
And since I never smoked sigarettes, I'm not gonna start smoking them now.
Nicotine is one of the most addictive substances ever know to mankind. (especially when they fume-boil it in ammonium, like most tobacco companies do).
So everyone smoking fags and pointing nasty fingers to pot-smokers are being hypocrits.

Well pot can be psychologically addictive in some people. But some people have addictive personalities anyway. I, for example, don't. I was able to give up cigarettes with no trouble after smoking for five years.

I don't really agree with your views on the corporations but let's not get into that :)

Basically, I feel that the path of the Netherlands is the way to go- legalise it but regulate it (e.g. make driving while stoned an offence just like drunk driving)

I don't care who smokes pot or who doesn't, and asking people why they don't do it is just plain stupid. It's a personal choice, or a legal one, and no-one has to justify why they don't do it.

A recent study by HRH Medical association has found good evidence to support that Cannabis is 50 times more harmfull to your lungs than fags.
So as you can guess i dont smoke pot or hash or whatever you want to call it as iam quite happy being in control of my senses thank you very much. Oh and my mother suffered brain damage from taking it. Now None of you say your lieing cause iam not, and if anyone does god help them as iam sick of people saying hash is harmless, well its not i have my mother in a mental institute to prove you all wrong. and no she was not taking any other drugs or alcaholl on top if the hash just before any of you post that. Well I sugest you all stop smoking hash/pot simply because its illegal.

I don't smoke pot because I'm perfectly happy with my state of mind (and my state of lungs for that matter)

the one more thing about pot, that i extremely like is that after all food your taste appears to be very, very delicious... ;))

*slow forums piss me off... my text got posted 3 times. dammit*

*and this was the second time it got posted...*

I can agree weed to be worse for your lungs than fags, BUT!

In general people don't smoke like a pack of joints every day... like cigarette smokers often do.... but I don't even wanna get into that discussion.

I think it should be everyone's free choice to smoke weed or not and it's everyone's own responsibility when and how much they do it.
I don't need a government to tell me what I can do.

I personally found that I drove more carefully after I had smoked a joint. while I saw "sober" people... stressed out by their work, racing and endangering other people in traffic.
I don't recommend smoking while driving though, because you're holding a burning stick in your hand while trying to steer and it doesn't work well that way.

I don't encourage people to drive when they're stoned, I just say I did and I drove better doing that.
Weed has a different effect on everyone.

If your mom is sick because of it, well that's too bad and I feel sorry for her. I knew a guy once who suffocated on tomatoes. Does that mean the government has to ban tomatoes?
Lot's of people suffer from hayfever, do we cut down all trees and burn grasses to avoid that?

Everyone has allergies and with our environment getting spoiled and stress on the rise, things will only get worse. Blame it on weed if you have to... whatever!
Just don't interfere with people's own choices. You're not god, you don't know what's best for everyone, so don't judge...

... and I really think if more people had tried a joint, this world would be a better place.
To me it's food for the mind.
Like I would be able to live on rice. But sometimes eating potatoes doesn't hurt either... though I could easily live without them.
I could live without love, but with love, life is nicer and more fulfilling.

... Weed doesn't not alter your mind, it merely enhances your subconsious and awareness.

I rest my case.

ow yeah... weed isn't illegal over here. So that's all I have to say about the legality.

A recent study by HRH Medical association has found good evidence to support that Cannabis is 50 times more harmfull to your lungs than fags.

Source?

Oh and my mother suffered brain damage from taking it. Now None of you say your lieing cause iam not, and if anyone does god help them as iam sick of people saying hash is harmless, well its not i have my mother in a mental institute to prove you all wrong. and no she was not taking any other drugs or alcaholl on top if the hash just before any of you post that.

Um, nope, not buying it. Your mother would be the first case of this ever, so no, I don't think so.

Well I sugest you all stop smoking hash/pot simply because its illegal.

Noted and disregarded.

I don't care who smokes pot or who doesn't, and asking people why they don't do it is just plain stupid. It's a personal choice, or a legal one, and no-one has to justify why they don't do it.

Well damn. That's one of the only sensible criticisms of this thread I've seen yet.

If you are on weed you can f--- off!

Why thankyou for that educational and insightful post.

Here is my final point, oh thank you God. About drugs, about alcohol, about pornography, whatever that is. What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, or take into my body as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet? And for those of you out there who're having a little moral dilemma in your head about how to answer that question, I'll answer it for you - none of your focking business. Take that to the bank, cash it, and go focking on a vacation out of my life.

You know, you really should say when you're quoting Hicks...

/edit/ - And I should really read post subjects before making a joke at someone else's expense. Oh well.

I smoke two joints in peacetime.
I smoke two joints in war.
I smoke two joints before I smoke two joints, and then I smoke two more.

I smoke two joints in peacetime.
I smoke two joints in war.
I smoke two joints before I smoke two joints, and then I smoke two more.

Sublime may be the greatest band ever.

I smoke two joints in the morning
I smoke two joints at night
I smoke to joints in the afternoon, it makes me feel alright.

I smoke two joints in time of peace
and two in time of war
I smoke two joints before I smoke two joints
and then I smoke two more.

Yeah, I dont like pot, or most of the pot smokers I know but I do love sublime.

Because I respect my body?

the vast majority of people take some kinda drug or other--and I bet some of these self righteous ninnies who are so opposed to recreational drugs prly drink craploads of coffee (caffeine, a lowly form of a cociane high) or tons of sugar (more speed) or even being a overeating fat pig (everyone knows foods altars your moods)

Listen to the weed smokers try and convince themselves there is no harm done with smoking it.

Check out some of the awful brain conditions it is associated with, and the things people have done under the influence and then you will realise why it is illegal!

Becuase pot smokers are annoying wankers.
:lol: I couldn't have put it better myself! One of my housemates is one! And I have known many, many others! :lol:

Waste of money. 'Nuff said. :roll:

Hmmmm....maybe because, it's illegal. What a concept

The Four Main Reasons I Haven't Tried Pot

1. It's illegal. I don't know what the penalties are either, and I don't want to get into any trouble.

2a. I'm 14. I have enough going on already.
2b. I'm 14. What I do reflects on my parents and I don't want them feeling awkward.

3a. I'm not friends with any of the known stoners at school.
3b. Even if I did have stoner friends, I'd feel weird asking how to get pot.

4. I already act like I'm high. I mean seriously, sometimes I just burst out laughing at the littlest thing and then don't stop for about ten minutes.

I have seen what "just a little pot once or twice a week" can do to a person. A former brother-in-law took my nephew (his son, who at the time was 18 months old) along on his 3-day binge, as "life insurance," (his words,) thinking his dealers wouldn't kill him if he had the child with him. When he finally brought the child back, the child was reeking of urine, hungry, and dirty; and his "daddy" was in the middle of a paranoia attack, demanding I give him my hard-earned money so he could go pay his dealers.

After this episode he went (FINALLY) into rehab...he stayed for 3 weeks, and went back to "toking it up socially." My sister finally saw the light and got rid of him. Now he lives under a bridge in a cardboard box, refusing to get any help besides money for "just one more hit."

A highly-regarded chemical engineer, musician, husband and father throws it all away because he "like(d) the way (he) feels when (he) get(s) high." And, the pot was the vehicle he rode on the road to personal disaster.

Sorry, pot smokers...you get no sympathy from me.

This debate is pointless. Unless you have experienced drugs firsthand and understood what they are like, you are bound to be ignorant of their appeal and their effects. I just wish that people would reserve judgement on drug users until they themselves try drugs. All drug users have experianced sobriety at one time in their life and they know what it is all about. One is not born a drug user. So why can't you anti-drug bigots undergo a period of drug use and chill out before you go and rain on our parade?

I have done a good bit of drugs over the years. And, believe it or not, marijuana was not a gateway drug for me. If there is anything that sparked my interest in body- and mind-altering substances it was my use of amphetimines, nicotine, alcohol and tobacco when I was 12 and 13. At age 14 I began smoking reefer, which I smoked until last year (I got tired of it). At age 16 I smoked opium, ate mushrooms and dropped acid, and at 17 I snorted cocaine for the first time. Despite all of the drugs I have done, I am a happy and relatively well-adjusted person. I believe that my usage of drugs has caused me to consider the creative side of my brain more and to think in abstact ways which I never considered before. I enjoy art much more than I once did and I love painting and creating sculptures. I have steadily gained an intense interest in music of all kinds and I play several instruments. While drugs don't make you superman, they certainly can help you to reassess your life and think about where you are going.

As for those people who obey the law unquestioningly: you are worthless tools. Die.

Sometimes, ignorance is strength.

I have seen what "just a little pot once or twice a week" can do to a person. A former brother-in-law took my nephew (his son, who at the time was 18 months old) along on his 3-day binge, as "life insurance," (his words,) thinking his dealers wouldn't kill him if he had the child with him. When he finally brought the child back, the child was reeking of urine, hungry, and dirty; and his "daddy" was in the middle of a paranoia attack, demanding I give him my hard-earned money so he could go pay his dealers.

After this episode he went (FINALLY) into rehab...he stayed for 3 weeks, and went back to "toking it up socially." My sister finally saw the light and got rid of him. Now he lives under a bridge in a cardboard box, refusing to get any help besides money for "just one more hit."

A highly-regarded chemical engineer, musician, husband and father throws it all away because he "like(d) the way (he) feels when (he) get(s) high." And, the pot was the vehicle he rode on the road to personal disaster.

Sorry, pot smokers...you get no sympathy from me.

Hmm, so you knew an idiot - why am I not surprised that you would generalize that to an entire group of people?

Is anyone asking for your sympathy?

1. I have Asthma, I couldn't if I wanted to.
2. I'm ADD, I'm already hyperaware of my surroundings.
3. I my experience, it makes people stupid. Yes, I know, many smart people smoke it with no ill effect, and many of the people I know who do are idiots, but it makes thier stupidity *worse*. I consider the entire idea of "Stoner culture" an affront to intelligence.
4. Many of the pot smokers I've met make themselves dangerous to others. I clearly remember my neighbor, high on GodKnowsWhat, threating me, my horses, and my house with a 12 gauge. I know you're going to blame it on him, not the drug, but in the end you're making the assumption that you can trust people.
(See, I'm already paranoid, I don't need pot for that either)
Because of all this
5. I'm straight edge. I will not let any more foriegn neurochemicals into my body than necessary.

So don't try to convince me to take it, please.

because no one has ever accomplished anything great while under the influence.

Because the people that I have seen use it are stupid when they are on it and not much better when they are not.

Because I would rather spend my time and money doing things outside, rather than just smoking up my lungs to laugh

Because it is against the law and the risks are not worth the so called benifits.

If you don't think drugs have done some good then take all of your CDs and throw them out. Because all the bands that made them were most likely really high at the time.

Drugs have contributed greatly to the evolution of art, to deny that drugs have done good is to deny the effect they've had on art.

If you don't think drugs have done some good then take all of your CDs and throw them out. Because all the bands that made them were most likely really high at the time.

Drugs have contributed greatly to the evolution of art, to deny that drugs have done good is to deny the effect they've had on art.
I've heard that sound clip. I don't buy it.

[quote=Panhandlia]I have seen what "just a little pot once or twice a week" can do to a person. A former brother-in-law took my nephew (his son, who at the time was 18 months old) along on his 3-day binge, as "life insurance," (his words,) thinking his dealers wouldn't kill him if he had the child with him. When he finally brought the child back, the child was reeking of urine, hungry, and dirty; and his "daddy" was in the middle of a paranoia attack, demanding I give him my hard-earned money so he could go pay his dealers.

After this episode he went (FINALLY) into rehab...he stayed for 3 weeks, and went back to "toking it up socially." My sister finally saw the light and got rid of him. Now he lives under a bridge in a cardboard box, refusing to get any help besides money for "just one more hit."

A highly-regarded chemical engineer, musician, husband and father throws it all away because he "like(d) the way (he) feels when (he) get(s) high." And, the pot was the vehicle he rode on the road to personal disaster.

Sorry, pot smokers...you get no sympathy from me.

Are you sure that was pot?

I have never, ever been desperate for a joint that I would buy pot on tick.

Sounds more like crack. Smoking pot usually turns people into tossers, without getting that sort of hold on their mind.

It's not against the laws everywhere. :lol:

because no one has ever accomplished anything great while under the influence.



Bob Marley was high 24/7, man.

Sounds more like crack. Smoking pot usually turns people into tossers, without getting that sort of hold on their mind.

How does it turn people into tossers? Admittedly, there are a few who are (but they tend to be tossers anyway), how is being chilled tosserish exactly?

-DEAT-

Listen to the weed smokers try and convince themselves there is no harm done with smoking it.

Check out some of the awful brain conditions it is associated with, and the things people have done under the influence and then you will realise why it is illegal!

Alcohol destroys the body and mind and yet is legal.

Think of all the awful things people have done while drunk. :roll:

Listen to the weed smokers try and convince themselves there is no harm done with smoking it.

Check out some of the awful brain conditions it is associated with, and the things people have done under the influence and then you will realise why it is illegal!

Yeah pot is really dangerous. Especially done in moderation. :roll:

Just think, if I never did pot, I would still be getting firsts in my essays :)

Waste of money. 'Nuff said. :roll:
I wouldn't have picked on this one except for the goddamn eye-roll smiley. I wish that people had to endure a shock everytime they used it, so they'd have to decide if it was really worth it to be an ass.

Waste of money is relative. Therefore, if those who spend the money on it get that value back in entertainment, then it is not a waste of money to them. Much in the same way a $135 sneaker is a waste of money to, well, a lot of people. But to the shallow dipshit who buys them, it's money well spent. So 'waste of money' is not 'nuff said,' Stan Lee. Stuff your smiley.

Once you remove the hysterics on both sides ("Dude, I totatlly saw some guy, rhodes scholar, sat in a room where someone smoked pot a week prior and he went out and ate a baby;" or "Dude, I smoke pot and I can like, touch god...man....") you get to the some like it, some don't. This is the ground that should be fostered. The 14 year old should not smoke (and s/he doesn't, so that's good). But the effect, there is more of a negative effect that stems from the prohibition than from the drug itself. We don't need everyone to smoke, we need the people who don't to be okay with us puffing up in our homes away from them. Agree not to get in anyones way.

Most of you all are meeting pot smokers that are dolts cause the cool ones aren't talking to you about it. There are people who smoke who keep it to themselves unless they sniff out another smoker on the same plan as them. If you don't smoke, they'll never tell you. That's the problem with respectful stoners, you never know they're being respectful.

And no one is asking for your sympathy.

Sounds more like crack. Smoking pot usually turns people into tossers, without getting that sort of hold on their mind.
How does it turn people into tossers? Admittedly, there are a few who are (but they tend to be tossers anyway), how is being chilled tosserish exactly?
I cannot explain how, but I have seen the results in several people. They are chilled at first. After using the stuff for a few months, they end up being distant and irritable. I have observed dramatic loss of weight and physical strength in all cases too. They display an overall decrease in maturity of behaviour. It is just . . . they really do end up being tossers.

If you don't think drugs have done some good then take all of your CDs and throw them out. Because all the bands that made them were most likely really high at the time.

Drugs have contributed greatly to the evolution of art, to deny that drugs have done good is to deny the effect they've had on art.
I've heard that sound clip. I don't buy it.

Quite heavily paraphrased. :P

I wrote the second line, btw.

Sounds more like crack. Smoking pot usually turns people into tossers, without getting that sort of hold on their mind.
How does it turn people into tossers? Admittedly, there are a few who are (but they tend to be tossers anyway), how is being chilled tosserish exactly?
I cannot explain how, but I have seen the results in several people. They are chilled at first. After using the stuff for a few months, they end up being distant and irritable. I have observed dramatic loss of weight and physical strength in all cases too. They display an overall decrease in maturity of behaviour. It is just . . . they really do end up being tossers.

They smoke it too much then. They're morons. Moderation (like everything) is the key.

I don't quite understand the loss of weight. :?

Sounds more like crack. Smoking pot usually turns people into tossers, without getting that sort of hold on their mind.
How does it turn people into tossers? Admittedly, there are a few who are (but they tend to be tossers anyway), how is being chilled tosserish exactly?
I cannot explain how, but I have seen the results in several people. They are chilled at first. After using the stuff for a few months, they end up being distant and irritable. I have observed dramatic loss of weight and physical strength in all cases too. They display an overall decrease in maturity of behaviour. It is just . . . they really do end up being tossers.

They smoke it too much then. They're morons. Moderation (like everything) is the key.

I don't quite understand the loss of weight. :?
Yeah, seeing as most people gain wieght smoking. That's why people on cancer therapy and HIV patients use it to restore appetite. You might be hanging out with a different kind of drug user.

I have seen what "just a little pot once or twice a week" can do to a person. A former brother-in-law took my nephew (his son, who at the time was 18 months old) along on his 3-day binge, as "life insurance," (his words,) thinking his dealers wouldn't kill him if he had the child with him. When he finally brought the child back, the child was reeking of urine, hungry, and dirty; and his "daddy" was in the middle of a paranoia attack, demanding I give him my hard-earned money so he could go pay his dealers.

After this episode he went (FINALLY) into rehab...he stayed for 3 weeks, and went back to "toking it up socially." My sister finally saw the light and got rid of him. Now he lives under a bridge in a cardboard box, refusing to get any help besides money for "just one more hit."

A highly-regarded chemical engineer, musician, husband and father throws it all away because he "like(d) the way (he) feels when (he) get(s) high." And, the pot was the vehicle he rode on the road to personal disaster.

Sorry, pot smokers...you get no sympathy from me.

Are you sure that was pot?

I have never, ever been desperate for a joint that I would buy pot on tick.

I'm pretty sure that there's far more to Panny's story than he's letting on (assuming it's true, and that he knows all the details). First he claims that it has something to do with the "once or twice a week" user, then mentions a "3-day binge," and suddenly the guy's in so deep that he has to take a child along to not be killed. Where did the debt come from? Marihuana isn't that expensive, especially for a light user, and Panny later tells us the guy was "a highly-regarded chemical engineer [and] musician." I've seen jobless college students sustain heavier coke addictions than this guy's purported smoking habit. So, either the guy was mentally ill to begin with, there's more to the story than we're hearing (i.e. the guy tells his family that hes only using a little weed when he's actually doing much heavier drugs, or Panny's just making it up (let's face it, Panny's no stranger to spin and propaganda).

Perhaps I choose not to smoke because I have no damn reason to.
I don't need drugs to either be creative or relax. (I'm already off my rocker enough that I don't need 'em :lol: )

I've known users who have been completely off their rocker, and others who were pretty level. I've seen smart and stupid people alike use them and be okay, and I've seen smart and stupid use them and crash.

I really couldn't care less what you chose to shoot up, snort, inhale, or otherwise consume. So you use drugs, whoopty doo, do you want a medal? It's your body, do with it what you please. (Just stay out of trouble, being under the influence is no excuse for causing harm)
However, by that same token, if drug use leads you on some sort of downward spiral and screws up your life, I am in a similar state of apathy.
It was your choice to begin the path that led you to that point.

Serbonia, you were going good, right till the "worthless tools. die" remark.

Drugs probably have contributed a great deal to art (some of the "best" artists of the past couple of centuries have been hitting one thing or another.)
However, sober people have also contributed a great deal, so the issue is null&void.

They smoke it too much then. They're morons. Moderation (like everything) is the key.

I don't quite understand the loss of weight. :?
He lives on snack food. TV dinners obviously don't contain much in the way of nutrition.

They smoke it too much then. They're morons. Moderation (like everything) is the key.

I don't quite understand the loss of weight. :?
He lives on snack food. TV dinners obviously don't contain much in the way of nutrition.

I didn't doubt you. Just found it ....... strange is all.

I didn't doubt you. Just found it ....... strange is all.
LOL, I have never known a pot smoker who wasn't skinny.

I didn't doubt you. Just found it ....... strange is all.
LOL, I have never known a pot smoker who wasn't skinny.

Same city, and we have never met. If we had, you wouldn't say that.

Not fat, just not skinny.

If you don't think drugs have done some good then take all of your CDs and throw them out. Because all the bands that made them were most likely really high at the time.

Drugs have contributed greatly to the evolution of art, to deny that drugs have done good is to deny the effect they've had on art.
I've heard that sound clip. I don't buy it.

I can help you narrow it down then, if you own anything by Jimi Hendrix, The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, Led Zepplin, Black Sabbath, Janis Joplin, Charlie Parker, John Coltrane, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Bob Dylan, Neal Young, The Eagles, The Beach Boys, et cetera, et alia, ad nauseum... Then you need to throw them out because all the individual artists I listed and at least one member of each group I listed has publically admitted or has been witnessed doing narcotics at somepoint in their life times. Heck, even Mozart was addicted to Laudnum (an early medical derivative of opium) and alcohol during his last few years, so you can rule anything of his written after say 1785 as being at least minutly influenced by drugs (Hector Berlioz was another hopeless opiate hound, therefore his music should be taboo as well).

As for myself, I was a moderate user during my teenage years, but have since stopped using marijuana (either smoking or ingesting) because I simply decided it wasn't best to continue in my current social and educational situations. I've considered doing it on a regular basis again, but have lacked motive and opportunity. Like has been previously mentioned, the effect of a chemical on an indivual is different from case to case, as such there is no way to make anyting more than a minimally inclusive inferance about marijuana usage and maintain a valid and sound (two completly different things) logical arguement for either side. As no conclusive decleration can be made for all cases, I feel that the usage of canabis/hemp should be (like alcohol and tobacco usage) a personal choice that the government legislates for or against on a case by case basis. And as for those who feel that pot reduces rational or other cognative abilities, if that is the case than I'm a true exception to the rule, as I passed the Mensa entrance exam while under the influence of ingested (in confection form, id est "pot-brownie") marjiuana (note: if anyone requires it I can gladdly provide photographic and other evidence for my membership in Mensa).

for one thing, i hate it when things aren't as they seem. i like to be in control of myself and my immediate surroundings.

for another, the part of marijuana which is smoked is essentially the female parts of the flower. Therefore you're smoking plant estrogen, which can affect the male body by shrinking the testicles and sparking increased mammary development--man boobs for all ya'll laymen.

and a third--i can't find any reason why marijuana, or any drug for that matter, would really do me any good.


Nevertheless, i feel that people should be able to smoke pot if they really want to--but only in the privacy of their own homes, even in medicinal cases. When you're at home you're not damaging other people's person or property through your actions. However, i believe that people should not be under the influence of any drug in public, where their impaired judgement can put other people at risk.

i don't smoke pot because i don't want to spend the money. simple as that.

I can help you narrow it down then, if you own anything by Jimi Hendrix, The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, Led Zepplin, Black Sabbath, Janis Joplin, Charlie Parker, John Coltrane, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Bob Dylan, Neal Young, The Eagles, The Beach Boys, et cetera, et alia, ad nauseum... Then you need to throw them out because all the individual artists I listed and at least one member of each group I listed has publically admitted or has been witnessed doing narcotics at somepoint in their life times. Heck, even Mozart was addicted to Laudnum (an early medical derivative of opium) and alcohol during his last few years, so you can rule anything of his written after say 1785 as being at least minutly influenced by drugs (Hector Berlioz was another hopeless opiate hound, therefore his music should be taboo as well).

all true...mind, however, that they might not have been high when they wrote their respective songs/pieces.

I can help you narrow it down then, if you own anything by Jimi Hendrix, The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, Led Zepplin, Black Sabbath, Janis Joplin, Charlie Parker, John Coltrane, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Bob Dylan, Neal Young, The Eagles, The Beach Boys, et cetera, et alia, ad nauseum... Then you need to throw them out because all the individual artists I listed and at least one member of each group I listed has publically admitted or has been witnessed doing narcotics at somepoint in their life times. Heck, even Mozart was addicted to Laudnum (an early medical derivative of opium) and alcohol during his last few years, so you can rule anything of his written after say 1785 as being at least minutly influenced by drugs (Hector Berlioz was another hopeless opiate hound, therefore his music should be taboo as well).

all true...mind, however, that they might not have been high when they wrote their respective songs/pieces.

You have me there, the only ones I know are true in that reguard are Hendrix, Vaughn (both admitted as much in interviews), Mozart (because he never stopped writting music), Berlioz (just listen to Symphony Fantastique and you can tell), "Bird", and Black Sabbath (at least Ozzy and Bill Ward).

Bird, Coltrane and Miles were on horse... Coltrane kicked off and never used again... he died years later from stress-induced ulcer/cancer.
Louis Armstrong smoked weed everyday... so anything he wrote was under the influence.
Oscar Wilde was a junk too, Monet and all the other Parisian artists on Abscint.
Maybe a more interesting topic would be "WHY DO YOU use drugs"?
I think, maybe lots of answers would come down to the rediscovery of the self.
Most drugs on a molecular level do nothing more than prevent gates of natural neurotramsmitters from closing.
So all drug induced effects are actually caused by substances that are naturally occuring in the human body.

Everyone who has ever had an Orgasm knows his body to be capable of this. Heroïn just opens the floodgates of the same inducer.

----------------------------that's it about this----------------------------------

Once more I'd like to join everyone who says it's an individual choice.
And once more I'd like to stress that it's not wise to reach for answers too soon.

It would be advisable for most youth who are developing their personality to stay away from drugs. ANY drugs.
Weed opened lots of doors to me and I agree with the 14 year old (who's name eludes me at the moment... sorry!) ... you have enough on your mind as it is.
Don't run before you can walk... you'll fall harder and if you lose the will to get up, it would be a shame.

(PS: for those who never tried marhiuana, it doesn't change your surroundings, you don't see pink elephants or gnomes, it moves your focus that's all... less stress, more focus. And people that are emotionally unstable can flip their balance when they do it simply because they fear it's effects) ====> I think most of us have to agree on this.

Cheers!
To all those who don't. (Don't.)
To all those who do. (If you're good with it, Do it! ...and be honest that's what it's about)

Weed is good...MDMA is better.

there is only one reason i do not nurotropicly anesthasize myself and
that is that i find no gratification in doing so.

i have always observed both the bennifits and harms to be greatly
and more or less equaly, over rated.

there are so many things so much more gratifying to spend the little
or nothing that comes my way on.

now if i was living on a pot plantation where everyone grew
their own, and everybody handed everybody else a toke as a matter
of politeness whenever anybody went to visit anybody else,
yes believe it or not i've seen that and been there back in the
70s, and yes i certainly did inhale.

but really it's just not something i can see enough attraction to for
to really give a dam about.

it bothers me that there are laws against it. it bothers me whatever
people expect those laws to accomplish. i think it is idiotic
to attampt to ban anything, so i
support people who want to get rid
of the nonsense of those kinds of
laws.

but the stuff itself i could care less about.

and what someone does to themselves, as long as they're NOT
doing something to someone else, like robbing me of my freedom of
thought by forcing their sounds on
the rest of the neighborhood, or
expecting their friends and neighbors to worship them or some
kind of crap like that, well then
that's no body's bussiness but their own.

believe your own beliefs, dream your own dreams, think your own

thoughts, and leave me to dream, think and believe my own, and we
could all be happy, gratified and harmless

=^^=
.../\...

I have seen what "just a little pot once or twice a week" can do to a person. A former brother-in-law took my nephew (his son, who at the time was 18 months old) along on his 3-day binge, as "life insurance," (his words,) thinking his dealers wouldn't kill him if he had the child with him. When he finally brought the child back, the child was reeking of urine, hungry, and dirty; and his "daddy" was in the middle of a paranoia attack, demanding I give him my hard-earned money so he could go pay his dealers.

After this episode he went (FINALLY) into rehab...he stayed for 3 weeks, and went back to "toking it up socially." My sister finally saw the light and got rid of him. Now he lives under a bridge in a cardboard box, refusing to get any help besides money for "just one more hit."

A highly-regarded chemical engineer, musician, husband and father throws it all away because he "like(d) the way (he) feels when (he) get(s) high." And, the pot was the vehicle he rode on the road to personal disaster.

Sorry, pot smokers...you get no sympathy from me.

Are you sure that was pot?

I have never, ever been desperate for a joint that I would buy pot on tick.

I'm pretty sure that there's far more to Panny's story than he's letting on (assuming it's true, and that he knows all the details). First he claims that it has something to do with the "once or twice a week" user, then mentions a "3-day binge," and suddenly the guy's in so deep that he has to take a child along to not be killed. Where did the debt come from? Marihuana isn't that expensive, especially for a light user, and Panny later tells us the guy was "a highly-regarded chemical engineer [and] musician." I've seen jobless college students sustain heavier coke addictions than this guy's purported smoking habit. So, either the guy was mentally ill to begin with, there's more to the story than we're hearing (i.e. the guy tells his family that hes only using a little weed when he's actually doing much heavier drugs, or Panny's just making it up (let's face it, Panny's no stranger to spin and propaganda).Tell you what, I'll go look him up under whichever highway overpass he's living now and he can tell you exactly how he got to that point. I know for a fact he started on pot. I know for a fact he did it "socially" at first. I know for a fact he tried to get my sister (a very well regarded special education teacher) to try it, so that "she would understand and share the experience." All this came out during his first rehab, and me being part of the extended family (after all, I am not just his son's uncle, but also his Godfather...it's a Catholic thing,) I was deeply involved in the rehab, starting with the interventions (yes, much more than one intervention.) I also know for a fact that, after a while, one or two joints a week didn't make it for him, so he started doing one or two a day. When that didn't provide the buzz anymore, he started to check out cocaine. When the cocaine stopped having the effect, he went into heroin and crack.

All the while, no one in the family suspected anything, even though the signs were all there for us to see. He arranged for his car to be stolen...after the car was found in parts, he collected the insurance payment for the car's restoration, yet he never quite got the car re-done, and the money managed to disappear. Then came a burglary in the house...but when the stolen articles were found at a pawn shop, his name was on the pawn receipts. That triggered intervention number one. Then he started brazenly selling items of furniture from the house...that was intervention number 2. It was during this intervention that he admitted he had a problem, and pledged to get help. The "help" he tried to get drove him to the infamous 3-day binge, with my 18-month old (at the time) nephew in tow, as life insurance.

My point is, you can't tell me that pot isn't a gateway drug, or that it's harmless. You try that line, and I will show you someone who is proof-positive that marijuana IS a gateway drug, that it is NOT harmless, and that it WILL mess up your life. You can tell yourself it is harmless and that you can control it...trust me, you're fooling yourself, and it's only a matter of "when", not "if."

I didn't doubt you. Just found it ....... strange is all.
LOL, I have never known a pot smoker who wasn't skinny.

Then boy, you have never seen my belly :D.
Actually, it's not too bad, but I'm a regular pot smoker yet I still have to watch my weight. I've started cutting down on munchies because too much eating then starving can give you diabetes.

My point is, you can't tell me that pot isn't a gateway drug, or that it's harmless. You try that line, and I will show you someone who is proof-positive that marijuana IS a gateway drug, that it is NOT harmless, and that it WILL mess up your life. You can tell yourself it is harmless and that you can control it...trust me, you're fooling yourself, and it's only a matter of "when", not "if."

I'm sure you can find people on both sides of the debate who can give examples of it either being a harmful gateway drug or being (in moderation) a harmless enough drug that can add more benefit to a life than it takes away. It's all subjective- through my parents I know plenty of very successful pot smoking 60 year olds who live happy, full and rich lives and have been smoking weed since the 1960s. I'm sure you could find people on the other side of the divide- it's just not a black and white issue.

My point is, you can't tell me that pot isn't a gateway drug, or that it's harmless. You try that line, and I will show you someone who is proof-positive that marijuana IS a gateway drug, that it is NOT harmless, and that it WILL mess up your life. You can tell yourself it is harmless and that you can control it...trust me, you're fooling yourself, and it's only a matter of "when", not "if."

I'm sure you can find people on both sides of the debate who can give examples of it either being a harmful gateway drug or being (in moderation) a harmless enough drug that can add more benefit to a life than it takes away. It's all subjective- through my parents I know plenty of very successful pot smoking 60 year olds who live happy, full and rich lives and have been smoking weed since the 1960s. I'm sure you could find people on the other side of the divide- it's just not a black and white issue.

keeping marijuana ILLEGAL is what makes people try other illegal drugs--so its more logical to say that drug prohibition itself is the gateway to people defying the law with other substances as well

keeping marijuana ILLEGAL is what makes people try other illegal drugs--so its more logical to say that drug prohibition itself is the gateway to people defying the law with other substances as well

I'd agree with that.

Tell you what, I'll go look him up under whichever highway overpass he's living now and he can tell you exactly how he got to that point. I know for a fact he started on pot. I know for a fact he did it "socially" at first. I know for a fact he tried to get my sister (a very well regarded special education teacher) to try it, so that "she would understand and share the experience." All this came out during his first rehab, and me being part of the extended family (after all, I am not just his son's uncle, but also his Godfather...it's a Catholic thing,) I was deeply involved in the rehab, starting with the interventions (yes, much more than one intervention.) I also know for a fact that, after a while, one or two joints a week didn't make it for him, so he started doing one or two a day. When that didn't provide the buzz anymore, he started to check out cocaine. When the cocaine stopped having the effect, he went into heroin and crack.

All the while, no one in the family suspected anything, even though the signs were all there for us to see. He arranged for his car to be stolen...after the car was found in parts, he collected the insurance payment for the car's restoration, yet he never quite got the car re-done, and the money managed to disappear. Then came a burglary in the house...but when the stolen articles were found at a pawn shop, his name was on the pawn receipts. That triggered intervention number one. Then he started brazenly selling items of furniture from the house...that was intervention number 2. It was during this intervention that he admitted he had a problem, and pledged to get help. The "help" he tried to get drove him to the infamous 3-day binge, with my 18-month old (at the time) nephew in tow, as life insurance.

My point is, you can't tell me that pot isn't a gateway drug, or that it's harmless. You try that line, and I will show you someone who is proof-positive that marijuana IS a gateway drug, that it is NOT harmless, and that it WILL mess up your life. You can tell yourself it is harmless and that you can control it...trust me, you're fooling yourself, and it's only a matter of "when", not "if."

Ah hah, I knew it - the usual spin. So he was a heavy drug user, that's quote a bit different. Now, my question is, were you deliberately glossing that over for the sake of making your after-school-special-like point, or are you genuinely not aware that the circumstances you tried to pass off as the whole story in the first place are very different from the details you release now? Your point has gone from "I knew this casual marihuana user who risked the life of his child and totally destroyed his own life with just his once-or-twice-a-week habit!" to "Well, he was using cocaine, heroin, and various other drugs, but my point is that pot is a gateway drug!" So...all that stuff that you mentioned was in support of cocaine and heroin addictions. It's not quite the same, is it?

And what else did this person do before he picked up this habit to which we can assume causal relationships? Quite frankly, your point is defeated by the tens of thousands of people who lead quite successful lives while casually smoking marihauna. You want to trot out the hobo with the addictive personality as the trump card, while numerous other people in this very thread have stated that they do use occasionally and have suceeded regardless? Sorry, but I never accept the lone idiot story as the final word in these matters. We'd need a lot more overpasses and a lot more 18 month-old nephews if it was cut and dried as you're trying to claim it is. :wink:

I agree. 40% of 16-25 yr olds have smoked weed in Britain. And they're not all hobos. Just me. Yay.

I heard that smoking pot gives you man-boobs.

I dont do it because I have a slight heart arrythmia that tends to be greatly aggravated if I smoke.

Last time I did it, my heart was clocked at 145bpm...NOT a good thing.

The key really is in moderation.
Anything is bad for you in high enough doses.
And even those things that you think are completely horrible for you can be good in low enough doses. (Studies are showing that poisons in extremely low doses can promote good health).

It's a personal choice and in reality probably won't cause any harm if done in moderation.
That being said, it's really nothing to brag about either.
So you smoke pot and lead a sucsessful life, big deal.
It's like bragging that you drink a couple brews each day and you're just fine.
Or that you smoke cigarettes. Again, I could care less.
So here's a medal, now go have fun.

That being said, it's really nothing to brag about either.
So you smoke pot and lead a sucsessful life, big deal.
It's like bragging that you drink a couple brews each day and you're just fine.
Or that you smoke cigarettes. Again, I could care less.
So here's a medal, now go have fun.
It's not like they're volunteering it out of the blue. They are using it to refute the notion that everyone who smokes is shiftless loser destined for the underpass. If there was an accusation that everyone who smokes cigarettes beats thier wives, cigarette smokers would be all over the thread talking about how they don't. But no one is making that claim, so they are not.

I dont do it because I have a slight heart arrythmia that tends to be greatly aggravated if I smoke.

Last time I did it, my heart was clocked at 145bpm...NOT a good thing.

That happens to nearly everyone I know who smokes it. Hard smokers get a tolerance though.

Is there a jack chick comic about pot?

I have seen what "just a little pot once or twice a week" can do to a person. A former brother-in-law took my nephew (his son, who at the time was 18 months old) along on his 3-day binge, as "life insurance," (his words,) thinking his dealers wouldn't kill him if he had the child with him. When he finally brought the child back, the child was reeking of urine, hungry, and dirty; and his "daddy" was in the middle of a paranoia attack, demanding I give him my hard-earned money so he could go pay his dealers.

After this episode he went (FINALLY) into rehab...he stayed for 3 weeks, and went back to "toking it up socially." My sister finally saw the light and got rid of him. Now he lives under a bridge in a cardboard box, refusing to get any help besides money for "just one more hit."

A highly-regarded chemical engineer, musician, husband and father throws it all away because he "like(d) the way (he) feels when (he) get(s) high." And, the pot was the vehicle he rode on the road to personal disaster.

Sorry, pot smokers...you get no sympathy from me.

I know someone who manages to wheedle about three times the average welfare benefits from the government. Why? Because he's a fucking idiot who deliberately and consciously went out and made himself an alcoholic. Because a pint every now and then turned into a five-litre bottle of cider every night, plus the rest. Because he has no intention of even trying to get out of it and is perfectly content to get well over a hundred pounds a week "special benefits". Last I checked he actually had blood in his alcohol stream.

I also know one or two people who've gotten themselves desperately obese through eating too much. All that chocolate. Endorphines are a rush, eh?

And what about the idiots who get themselves so addicted to caffiene that they end up with splitting headaches and a mood best described as
"insufferably morbid" until they have their morning espresso fix?

Or should we perhaps have a go at the adrenaline junkies who'll end up dead at 35 after a fatal heart attack in the squash court? I promise that happens a lot more than newspapers will report.

So if you want to go down the "my hell is greater than your hell" path of justification of threats and "punishment", then by all means bring it on. I will show you oh-so-moral health fascists up for what you are.

Listen to the weed smokers try and convince themselves there is no harm done with smoking it.

Check out some of the awful brain conditions it is associated with, and the things people have done under the influence and then you will realise why it is illegal!

Greece and Cyprus. Ironic name, considering it was the Greek representative that managed to vastly exaggerate and demonise marijuana at the 1925 Geneva Convention. Yes folks, apparently there's this disease called "Chronic Hashishism", that's nothing like alcoholism at all. Nope. You don't get it bit by bit over months and years of over-use, it just suddenly gets you, on the very first drag of the very first joint! Yep! All 100% true!

...and to think entire countries based their drug laws on this.

Is there a jack chick comic about pot?

What, are you kidding? (http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0025/0025_01.asp)

smoke pot today, and the consequences will come haunt you later. oh well, i guess it's a choice of priorities: enjoy today? or survive tomorrow.

I heard that smoking pot gives you man-boobs.
It's not the weed, it's the Hostess products that you eat afterwards...

(actually, that is steroids. And indicative of how bad the drug education is. With all the hysteria and misinformation about drugs, when someone takes a puff off a joint and his head doesn't explode everyone telling him not to do drugs based on that looses all credibility. Which means that the real danger of the 'harder' drugs are ignored, thus the key to that 'gateway' people keep talking about. (which is suspect anyway))

Is there a jack chick comic about pot?

What, are you kidding? (http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0025/0025_01.asp)

There's also this one:
http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0024/0024_01.asp

Is there a jack chick comic about pot?

What, are you kidding? (http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0025/0025_01.asp)

There's also this one:
http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0024/0024_01.asp
Wow, yours is cooler. That's a wierd dynamic for the devil to live in...

Is there a jack chick comic about pot?

What, are you kidding? (http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0025/0025_01.asp)

There's also this one:
http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0024/0024_01.asp
Wow, yours is cooler. That's a wierd dynamic for the devil to live in...

Yours get to the point the quicker though, and you can zip through it and become an authority on the homogenous noun 'drugs'