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I am about to get sent to Iraq.

New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 05:09
http://www.oxfordeagle.com/news2.html

Local National Guardsmen from Company A, 2nd Battalion, 198th Armor headquartered in Oxford have received alert notification to begin planning and preparing for possible mobilization in support of Operation Iraq Freedom.

The Adjutant General’s Office of the Mississippi National Guard received the alert notification Sunday for the nearly 4,000 soldiers of the 155th Separate Armored Brigade headquartered in Tupelo.

The 155th SAB is comprised of units in 49 locations throughout the state.

The notification alerts the command of the brigade and its units to begin sensible planning and preparation for possible mobilization which could occur in the upcoming months.

“The alert notification notifies the unit that the Department of the Army is considering the unit for mobility,” said Maj. Danny Blanton of the Mississippi National Guard Public Affairs Office. “It is to get them prepared ... and is an opportunity for them to take a good hard look at their unit to make sure they are ready for any possible mobilization.”

Reviewing the unit for possible mobilization includes ensuring the company has enough troops, the company’s equipment is ready and completing paperwork.

But, if the unit will be called up for duty and where it might be deployed has yet to be decided.

“Although the brigade has received an alert, the decision to mobilize or deploy these units has not occurred,” said Maj. Gen. Harold A. Cross, the adjutant general of the Mississippi National Guard. “Our troops are trained and ready to provide any military support overseas if needed.”

The approximately 30 soldiers of Company A were last deployed in 2001 to Bosnia returning in April 2002.
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I am not in A co. 2/198 as mention in the article, but I am in another unit with the 155 SAB. I guess I will know in 90 days when I am leaving.
Ashmoria
11-05-2004, 05:13
good luck to you and thank you for your devotion to your country in these very difficult days
BackwoodsSquatches
11-05-2004, 05:14
Your a nazi arent you?

Hmm.....please be real careful...I wouldnt want anything to happen to you.
New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 05:15
Your a nazi arent you?

Hmm.....please be real careful...I wouldnt want anything to happen to you.
I am not a Nazi, just an American Nationalist
Demonic Furbies
11-05-2004, 05:16
good luck to you and thank you for your devotion to your country in these very difficult days

i second that. come back alive soldier.
BackwoodsSquatches
11-05-2004, 05:19
Your a nazi arent you?

Hmm.....please be real careful...I wouldnt want anything to happen to you.
I am not a Nazi, just an American Nationalist

Six of one..half a dozen of the other.

I hope your squad leader is black.
New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 05:20
Your a nazi arent you?

Hmm.....please be real careful...I wouldnt want anything to happen to you.
I am not a Nazi, just an American Nationalist

Six of one..half a dozen of the other.

I hope your squad leader is black.
It doesn't matter if he is black, white, asian, or hispanic, he is American !
Gaeltach
11-05-2004, 05:21
BS, would you shut up? You're being insensitive.

And best of luck to you New Auburnland. Friend of mine was killed about a month or two ago over there.

Thank you so much for your service, on behalf of myself, my rotc flightmates, and my fellow countrymen.
Freindly Humans
11-05-2004, 05:22
You know, whatever political views certain people might have, when they are thrown into a posistion where they might get shot at on a regular basis one should probably not treat them like utter shit before they go.
Monkeypimp
11-05-2004, 05:23
Your a nazi arent you?

Hmm.....please be real careful...I wouldnt want anything to happen to you.
I am not a Nazi, just an American Nationalist

Six of one..half a dozen of the other.

I hope your squad leader is black.
It doesn't matter if he is black, white, asian, or hispanic, he is American !

Get sent to the front line. Its traditionally the most racially diverse area of the US army...
New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 05:24
Your a nazi arent you?

Hmm.....please be real careful...I wouldnt want anything to happen to you.
I am not a Nazi, just an American Nationalist

Six of one..half a dozen of the other.

I hope your squad leader is black.
It doesn't matter if he is black, white, asian, or hispanic, he is American !

Get sent to the front line. Its traditionally the most racially diverse area of the US army...
It is not diverse at all, everyone is American and wearing the same uniform. And I am in a Armor (Tank) Brigade, so I will be in the shit.
Monkeypimp
11-05-2004, 05:25
Your a nazi arent you?

Hmm.....please be real careful...I wouldnt want anything to happen to you.
I am not a Nazi, just an American Nationalist

Six of one..half a dozen of the other.

I hope your squad leader is black.
It doesn't matter if he is black, white, asian, or hispanic, he is American !

Get sent to the front line. Its traditionally the most racially diverse area of the US army...
It is not diverse at all, everyone is American and wearing the same uniform. And I am in a Armor (Tank) Brigade, so I will be in the shit.

Do you get to drive the tank?
BackwoodsSquatches
11-05-2004, 05:25
BS, would you shut up? You're being insensitive.

Ah yes....insensitive to a racist....thats rich!

ohhhh...Im so sorry...poor white supremecist.......you come back safe so we can have your hood all nice and clean for you.
Free Soviets
11-05-2004, 05:25
I am not a Nazi, just an American Nationalist

your political ideals tend towards fascism though, right?
Raysian Military Tech
11-05-2004, 05:26
Have fun! Make us proud!
Gaeltach
11-05-2004, 05:27
BS, would you shut up? You're being insensitive.

Ah yes....insensitive to a racist....thats rich!

ohhhh...Im so sorry...poor white supremecist.......you come back safe so we can have your hood all nice and clean for you.

He's going off to fight for his country. His personal views shouldn't matter in the light of self sacrifice.
Freindly Humans
11-05-2004, 05:28
It is not diverse at all, everyone is American and wearing the same uniform. And I am in a Armor (Tank) Brigade, so I will be in the shit.

Good for you, here's to hoping you're in a M1A1 and not the A2, too many useless gadgets onboard that variant, the first was much better.

And as for what you're saying, I totally agree with you. Americans for America. Reminds me of what I said to my grandma once, I'm not a Norwegian or a German or a Brit or Irish I'm American. And she loved it when I said that as any good patriot should.
Raysian Military Tech
11-05-2004, 05:28
I am not a Nazi, just an American Nationalist

your political ideals tend towards fascism though, right?nationalist just means you're proud to live in your country, and you believe in national security, citizenship, american culture and values, and borders.

Has nothing to do with nazis.
Ashmoria
11-05-2004, 05:28
you cant afford to be racist in your circumstance, soldiers have to rely on each other and know that they have each others backs. it cant matter if the other guy is of a different race, he's the guy who is gonna keep you from getting killed.
im glad you know that, not that i would have expected anything less of an american soldier
BackwoodsSquatches
11-05-2004, 05:29
BS, would you shut up? You're being insensitive.

Ah yes....insensitive to a racist....thats rich!

ohhhh...Im so sorry...poor white supremecist.......you come back safe so we can have your hood all nice and clean for you.

He's going off to fight for his country. His personal views shouldn't matter in the light of self sacrifice.

and yet....they do.

He's posting on NS to garner sympathy or whatever, when hes made several raciallly motivated comments...and Im supposed to sau "Atta Boy!"

I dont think so.
New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 05:29
Do you get to drive the tank?
Well, when we jump TOC (move) I drive a M577, which is like a tank without a big ass gun on the top. It has either a Mk-19 Automatic Grenade launcher or a .50 Cal machine gun on the top for protection.
Free Soviets
11-05-2004, 05:29
nationalist just means you're proud to live in your country, and you believe in national security, citizenship, american culture and values, and borders.

Has nothing to do with nazis.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3109189&highlight=#3109189
Go Fascism!
Daistallia 2104
11-05-2004, 05:29
Luck to you.
BackwoodsSquatches
11-05-2004, 05:31
I am not a Nazi, just an American Nationalist

your political ideals tend towards fascism though, right?nationalist just means you're proud to live in your country, and you believe in national security, citizenship, american culture and values, and borders.

Has nothing to do with nazis.

Raysia, do you have any idea of what a White Nationalist is?

Its got nothing to do with patriotism......unless your white.

They want a white only nation.

No blacks....or any other race....

and for religion..they dont like Mormons either......to them, your just as bad as a Jew.
New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 05:32
I am not a Nazi, just an American Nationalist

your political ideals tend towards fascism though, right?
I consider myself just an out right authoritarian, but American Nationalist has a cool ring to it.
Raysian Military Tech
11-05-2004, 05:32
I am not a Nazi, just an American Nationalist

your political ideals tend towards fascism though, right?nationalist just means you're proud to live in your country, and you believe in national security, citizenship, american culture and values, and borders.

Has nothing to do with nazis.

Raysia, do you have any idea of what a White Nationalist is?

Its got nothing to do with patriotism......unless your white.

They want a white only nation.

No blacks....or any other race....

and for religion..they dont like Mormons either......to them, your just as bad as a Jew.oh, the guy said american nationalist... bit of a difference there ;)

Michael Savage is a strong American nationalist, and I'll believe him over someone who thinks all nationalists are nazis :P
Gaeltach
11-05-2004, 05:32
He's posting on NS to garner sympathy or whatever, when hes made several raciallly motivated comments...and Im supposed to sau "Atta Boy!"

I dont think so.

I'm not asking you to accept his beliefs. I am asking you to be the bigger person and lay that all aside to wish a soldier luck in serving his country. In everyday clothes it's another story but in that uniform we are all the same.
Freindly Humans
11-05-2004, 05:33
Raysia, do you have any idea of what a White Nationalist is?

Its got nothing to do with patriotism......unless your white.

They want a white only nation.

No blacks....or any other race....

and for religion..they dont like Mormons either......to them, your just as bad as a Jew.

He didn't say WHITE Nationalist, he said AMERICAN Nationalist.

Big differance.
New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 05:33
nationalist just means you're proud to live in your country, and you believe in national security, citizenship, american culture and values, and borders.

Has nothing to do with nazis.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3109189&highlight=#3109189
Go Fascism!
yes in a "Communism vs Fascism" thread I am going to pull for the fascists.
BackwoodsSquatches
11-05-2004, 05:33
He's posting on NS to garner sympathy or whatever, when hes made several raciallly motivated comments...and Im supposed to sau "Atta Boy!"

I dont think so.

I'm not asking you to accept his beliefs. I am asking you to be the bigger person and lay that all aside to wish a soldier luck in serving his country. In everyday clothes it's another story but in that uniform we are all the same.

Not to his line of thinking.
The Atheists Reality
11-05-2004, 05:33
He's posting on NS to garner sympathy or whatever, when hes made several raciallly motivated comments...and Im supposed to sau "Atta Boy!"

I dont think so.

I'm not asking you to accept his beliefs. I am asking you to be the bigger person and lay that all aside to wish a soldier luck in serving his country. In everyday clothes it's another story but in that uniform we are all the same.

why helloooooooo gael :D
Graustarke
11-05-2004, 05:35
BackwoodsSquatches
11-05-2004, 05:42
Raysia, do you have any idea of what a White Nationalist is?

Its got nothing to do with patriotism......unless your white.

They want a white only nation.

No blacks....or any other race....

and for religion..they dont like Mormons either......to them, your just as bad as a Jew.

He didn't say WHITE Nationalist, he said AMERICAN Nationalist.

Big differance.

New Auburnland is a self admitted White Nationalist....hes just calling it "American Nationalist"

Its the same thing.
New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 05:42
BS, would you shut up? You're being insensitive.

And best of luck to you New Auburnland. Friend of mine was killed about a month or two ago over there.

Thank you so much for your service, on behalf of myself, my rotc flightmates, and my fellow countrymen.
thanks for your, and everyone else's, support
New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 05:57
New Auburnland is a self admitted White Nationalist....hes just calling it "American Nationalist"

Its the same thing.
1. Where have I ever stated "White Power" or anything of the sort. I have equally bashed Jews, Christians, Muslims, and pretty much everyone else. You are in the minority if I haven't said something to piss you off.

2. There is a differance. White Nationalists hate all minorities and non-christians, I just dislike all non-Americans.
New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 06:04
Do you get to drive the tank?
since you were asking, I found a pic of what I "drive"

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/images/M577A2-DDSD9903818_JPG.jpg

sorry I couldn't find a smaller pic.
Nianacio
11-05-2004, 06:05
I hope you stay in good health. :)
Well, when we jump TOC (move) I drive a M577, which is like a tank without a big ass gun on the top. It has either a Mk-19 Automatic Grenade launcher or a .50 Cal machine gun on the top for protection.
For anyone who's curious:
http://www.military.com/Resources/EQG/EQGmain?file=M577&cat=g&lev=2
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3109189&highlight=#3109189
Go Fascism!According to Merriam-Webster, Nazis are fascists, but fascists don't have to be Nazis or racists.
2. There is a differance. White Nationalists hate all minorities and non-christians, I just dislike all non-Americans.Would you dislike someone who wants to move to America but can't?
Monkeypimp
11-05-2004, 06:09
2. There is a differance. White Nationalists hate all minorities and non-christians, I just dislike all non-Americans.

You dislike me because I'm not American?
Zuliemann
11-05-2004, 06:11
New Auburnland is a self admitted White Nationalist....hes just calling it "American Nationalist"

Its the same thing.
1. Where have I ever stated "White Power" or anything of the sort. I have equally based Jews, Christians, Muslims, and pretty much everyone else.

2. There is a differance. White Nationalists hate all minorities and non-christians, I just dislike all non-Americans.

a closed mind is closed, whether you call it hate or dislike, whatever your bias is. I hope that your experiences in Iraq help you to make some positive changes in your psyche.
New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 06:12
Would you dislike someone who wants to move to America but can't?
Not at all. I like people who like the US. There are people with US citizenship (Lee Boyd Malvo, John Allen Muhammad, Tim McVeigh, and John Walker) that I hate with as much passion as I hate Usama Bin Laden
New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 06:16
a closed mind is closed, whether you call it hate or dislike, whatever your bias is. I hope that your experiences in Iraq help you to make some positive changes in your psyche.maybe it will, maybe it won't. i will never stop loving this country.
Nianacio
11-05-2004, 06:19
Do you mind this change of topic?
Not at all. I like people who like the US. There are people with US citizenship (Lee Boyd Malvo, John Allen Muhammad, Tim McVeigh, and John Walker) that I hate with as much passion as I hate Usama Bin LadenAre you anti-non-American or anti-anti-American?
Free Soviets
11-05-2004, 06:21
According to Merriam-Webster, Nazis are fascists, but fascists don't have to be Nazis or racists. not gonna dispute that. people like me fought fascists before anyone cared about nazis.

the only good fascist is a very dead fascist.
New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 06:22
Do you mind this change of topic?
Not at all. I like people who like the US. There are people with US citizenship (Lee Boyd Malvo, John Allen Muhammad, Tim McVeigh, and John Walker) that I hate with as much passion as I hate Usama Bin LadenAre you anti-non-American or anti-anti-American?
Since you are actually asking what I believe, and not just generalizing me as a KKK member like some other people are, I have no problem answering your questions.

I guess if I had to pick between anti-non-American or anti-anti-American I would put myself in the anti-anti-American catagory.
New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 06:23
According to Merriam-Webster, Nazis are fascists, but fascists don't have to be Nazis or racists. not gonna dispute that. people like me fought fascists before anyone cared about nazis.

the only good fascist is a very dead fascist.
Just curious, what are your feelings toward Stalin?
Free Soviets
11-05-2004, 06:29
the only good fascist is a very dead fascist.
Just curious, what are your feelings toward Stalin?

pure and utter hatred.
New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 06:30
the only good fascist is a very dead fascist.
Just curious, what are your feelings toward Stalin?

pure and utter hatred.
do you view him as a fascist in a sense?
Free Soviets
11-05-2004, 06:35
do you view him as a fascist in a sense?

not really. though his nationalism pushed him slightly in that direction
Lithuanighanistania
11-05-2004, 06:37
Just one thing; if you're going to rarpe their women (and let's face it, that's like baseball to the troops there), use a condom.
New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 06:39
Just one thing; if you're going to rarpe their women (and let's face it, that's like baseball to the troops there), use a condom.

that doesn't even warrant a response.
Lithuanighanistania
11-05-2004, 06:42
Just one thing; if you're going to rarpe their women (and let's face it, that's like baseball to the troops there), use a condom.

that doesn't even warrant a response.

And yet you still responded. Point being, there's no better (or more historically supported) time for mass-rapes than wars.
New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 06:43
there is never a "good time" to commit mass rapes, especially in a war where we are already having trouble winning the hearts and minds.
Lithuanighanistania
11-05-2004, 06:46
there is never a "good time" to commit mass rapes, especially in a war where we are already having trouble winning the hearts and minds.

Hard winning someone's hearts and minds when you invade their country, turn what is barely controlled chaos into total chaos, pee on their captured soldiers faces, and run about as if there is a contest to see who can make America look as stupid as possible.
11-05-2004, 06:46
good luck dude. i hope you survive and help some iraqis. just dont abuse the people, we dont want to have to go back in 100 years.
11-05-2004, 06:46
wait a second, i pee on my captured soldiers too. it doesnt make me evil.
Lithuanighanistania
11-05-2004, 06:49
wait a second, i pee on my captured soldiers too. it doesnt make me evil.

The thin line between evil and hilarious is crossed when you start pooping on their chests. We haven't gotten those pictures yet though.
New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 06:49
there is never a "good time" to commit mass rapes, especially in a war where we are already having trouble winning the hearts and minds.

Hard winning someone's hearts and minds when you invade their country, turn what is barely controlled chaos into total chaos, pee on their captured soldiers faces, and run about as if there is a contest to see who can make America look as stupid as possible.
I didn't choose to liberate Iraq. I haven't pissed on a EPW. I haven't done anything to make the US look stupid to the Iraqis.
Lithuanighanistania
11-05-2004, 06:51
there is never a "good time" to commit mass rapes, especially in a war where we are already having trouble winning the hearts and minds.

Hard winning someone's hearts and minds when you invade their country, turn what is barely controlled chaos into total chaos, pee on their captured soldiers faces, and run about as if there is a contest to see who can make America look as stupid as possible.
I didn't choose to liberate Iraq. I haven't pissed on a EPW. I haven't done anything to make the US look stupid to the Iraqis.

Well, you've got some time ahead of you. And anyway, it's not just making us look stupid to the Iraqis. There are so many other countries who share that opinion.
New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 06:53
whatever dude
11-05-2004, 07:00
wait a second, i pee on my captured soldiers too. it doesnt make me evil.

The thin line between evil and hilarious is crossed when you start pooping on their chests. We haven't gotten those pictures yet though.

i would never! thats just disgusting...
Kilean
11-05-2004, 07:02
New Auburnland:

Good luck. I really hope you can make it back alright. Just lemme know if there's any way us civilians can help you guys out with doritos,beer and/or porn.

....do they still let people ship cool stuff in the military postal system?


Anyways- woot woot being a nationalist. I think America needs more of it. (well "real" nationalism, not just knee-jerk patriotism).

I'm don't wanna go on with any more lame-sounding lines- just, well, I'm rootin' for you.

EDIT: many spelling errors, I know. I
New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 07:04
thanks man. i'll be around for the next 90 days, so i'll have plenty of time to get all my fun stuff hidden in my military cargo.
Lithuanighanistania
11-05-2004, 07:07
wait a second, i pee on my captured soldiers too. it doesnt make me evil.

The thin line between evil and hilarious is crossed when you start pooping on their chests. We haven't gotten those pictures yet though.

i would never! thats just disgusting...

You didn't say that when the eskimo asked you...Do you love him more than your POWs?
Kilean
11-05-2004, 07:09
Seriously- is there some sort of organization to send porn to our guys overseas? Beacuse there should be one.
Nuevo Kowloon
11-05-2004, 07:11
http://www.oxfordeagle.com/news2.html

Local National Guardsmen from Company A, 2nd Battalion, 198th Armor headquartered in Oxford have received alert notification to begin planning and preparing for possible mobilization in support of Operation Iraq Freedom.

The Adjutant General’s Office of the Mississippi National Guard received the alert notification Sunday for the nearly 4,000 soldiers of the 155th Separate Armored Brigade headquartered in Tupelo.

The 155th SAB is comprised of units in 49 locations throughout the state.

The notification alerts the command of the brigade and its units to begin sensible planning and preparation for possible mobilization which could occur in the upcoming months.

“The alert notification notifies the unit that the Department of the Army is considering the unit for mobility,” said Maj. Danny Blanton of the Mississippi National Guard Public Affairs Office. “It is to get them prepared ... and is an opportunity for them to take a good hard look at their unit to make sure they are ready for any possible mobilization.”

Reviewing the unit for possible mobilization includes ensuring the company has enough troops, the company’s equipment is ready and completing paperwork.

But, if the unit will be called up for duty and where it might be deployed has yet to be decided.

“Although the brigade has received an alert, the decision to mobilize or deploy these units has not occurred,” said Maj. Gen. Harold A. Cross, the adjutant general of the Mississippi National Guard. “Our troops are trained and ready to provide any military support overseas if needed.”

The approximately 30 soldiers of Company A were last deployed in 2001 to Bosnia returning in April 2002.
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I am not in A co. 2/198 as mention in the article, but I am in another unit with the 155 SAB. I guess I will know in 90 days when I am leaving.

Good luck, keep your head down.
Incertonia
11-05-2004, 07:16
NA, you know I don't like you, but stay alive just the same.
New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 07:19
NA, you know I don't like you, but stay alive just the same.
thanks man, i'll do my best to stay alive

(we do agree on some stuff)
Meulmania
11-05-2004, 07:27
good luck to you and thank you for your devotion to your country in these very difficult days

i second that. come back alive soldier.

Good Luck and treat them like you would treat your own
New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 07:30
good luck to you and thank you for your devotion to your country in these very difficult days

i second that. come back alive soldier.

Good Luck and treat them like you would treat your own
always
Stephistan
11-05-2004, 07:37
BS, would you shut up? You're being insensitive.

Ah yes....insensitive to a racist....thats rich!

ohhhh...Im so sorry...poor white supremecist.......you come back safe so we can have your hood all nice and clean for you.

He's going off to fight for his country. His personal views shouldn't matter in the light of self sacrifice.

No, he's not going off to fight for his country. He's going off to fight for Iraq who doesn't even want the Americans there.

I wish him a safe return regardless though. Stay safe!
Raysian Military Tech
11-05-2004, 07:43
BS, would you shut up? You're being insensitive.

Ah yes....insensitive to a racist....thats rich!

ohhhh...Im so sorry...poor white supremecist.......you come back safe so we can have your hood all nice and clean for you.

He's going off to fight for his country. His personal views shouldn't matter in the light of self sacrifice.

No, he's not going off to fight for his country. He's going off to fight for Iraq who doesn't even want the Americans there.

I wish him a safe return regardless though. Stay safe! :roll:
Stephistan
11-05-2004, 07:59
BS, would you shut up? You're being insensitive.

Ah yes....insensitive to a racist....thats rich!

ohhhh...Im so sorry...poor white supremecist.......you come back safe so we can have your hood all nice and clean for you.

He's going off to fight for his country. His personal views shouldn't matter in the light of self sacrifice.

No, he's not going off to fight for his country. He's going off to fight for Iraq who doesn't even want the Americans there.

I wish him a safe return regardless though. Stay safe! :roll:

Problem with the truth Ray?
Kilean
11-05-2004, 08:01
Sweet merciful god can't we just put politics aside for once? A nationstates player is going into harms way. Let's just leave the BS for the rest of General.

Once, just once, I'd like to see everybody rise above the politics, if only to just wish this guy good luck.
New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 08:16
its kind of wierd. I have been waiting for this day my whole life. my family has not missed an American war since my family came from Europe. I am in a gread brigade. My unit has a great history, has great leadership, and has the greatest soldiers in it, The 155th was the first reserve or guard unit to win 2 battles at NTC at Ft. Irwin. We did an awesome job at peacekeeping in Bosnia.

So why am a worried? Except for the getting shot at part, I have everything going for me.
Capsule Corporation
11-05-2004, 08:21
Sweet merciful god can't we just put politics aside for once? A nationstates player is going into harms way. Let's just leave the BS for the rest of General.

Once, just once, I'd like to see everybody rise above the politics, if only to just wish this guy good luck.seconded
Capsule Corporation
11-05-2004, 08:23
its kind of wierd. I have been waiting for this day my whole life. my family has not missed an American war since my family came from Europe. I am in a gread brigade. My unit has a great history, has great leadership, and has the greatest soldiers in it, The 155th was the first reserve or guard unit to win 2 battles at NTC at Ft. Irwin. We did an awesome job at peacekeeping in Bosnia.

So why am a worried? Except for the getting shot at part, I have everything going for me.You know what? If circumstances were different, and I wasn't going on a mission in a few months, i'd be glad to go over to Iraq.

in fact, if, by the time my papers get turned in, Iraq becomes an open mission (yeah right), I'd wanna serve there for my church :)
Greenfarm
11-05-2004, 08:23
It would be a shame, an indignity for any human; no matter their political beliefs to die in that sham of an action in Iraq......
Capsule Corporation
11-05-2004, 08:27
It would be a shame, an indignity for any human; no matter their political beliefs to die in that sham of an action in Iraq......... actually, not really... because anyone with a decent head on their shoulders realizes this is a war that needs to be faught, and needs to be won.

The fact that you guys want to amake this an anti-bush issue is sick... just support our troops, and help them do a good job. They'd be doing a lot better in iraq if we didn't have so many idiots protesting their actions.
New Gumboygle
11-05-2004, 08:32
It would be a shame, an indignity for any human; no matter their political beliefs to die in that sham of an action in Iraq......

Its a shame when anyone dies, for any reason. Good luck, and may your return home be swift. :D
Incertonia
11-05-2004, 08:32
It would be a shame, an indignity for any human; no matter their political beliefs to die in that sham of an action in Iraq......... actually, not really... because anyone with a decent head on their shoulders realizes this is a war that needs to be faught, and needs to be won.

The fact that you guys want to amake this an anti-bush issue is sick... just support our troops, and help them do a good job. They'd be doing a lot better in iraq if we didn't have so many idiots protesting their actions.Like it or not, this is a Bush issue. Simply put, we wouldn't be sending soldiers there if he hadn't wanted it so badly he was willing to use false intelligence to make the case. This was not a war that needed to be fought at this time and in this way, and now innocents are dying on both sides and the survivors are having their lives changed forever, and for what? Every reason Bush has given us for being there has turned out to be complete and utter crap. We're not there because of a mistake--we could use that excuse for Vietnam. We're there because of repeated lies. How do you ask a man or woman to be the last one to die for a lie?
Greenfarm
11-05-2004, 08:34
It would be a shame, an indignity for any human; no matter their political beliefs to die in that sham of an action in Iraq......... actually, not really... because anyone with a decent head on their shoulders realizes this is a war that needs to be faught, and needs to be won.

The fact that you guys want to amake this an anti-bush issue is sick... just support our troops, and help them do a good job. They'd be doing a lot better in iraq if we didn't have so many idiots protesting their actions.

Capsule, do not take this the wrong way. I support my troops (the British) by attacking Bush and Blair's policy. I fight their methods in this war. Democracy is not a package of laws to be exported through force. Democracy is an evolutionary process where all the people and the civil service believe in such a government and choose to make it work.
True, the tyrant needed to be removed but to supplant that tyrant with another tyrant like the Democracy we enforce upon Iraq is ethically wrong. I only hope that more people realise that before more Iraqis and more Coalition troops are massacred in that Pandora's box we opened.....
New Gumboygle
11-05-2004, 08:38
It would be a shame, an indignity for any human; no matter their political beliefs to die in that sham of an action in Iraq......... actually, not really... because anyone with a decent head on their shoulders realizes this is a war that needs to be faught, and needs to be won.

The fact that you guys want to amake this an anti-bush issue is sick... just support our troops, and help them do a good job. They'd be doing a lot better in iraq if we didn't have so many idiots protesting their actions.

If you don't want to make this an anti-bush forum, don't make pro-bush policy statements, like 'this war needs to be fought' :roll:

I agree, this shouldnt be political.
Capsule Corporation
11-05-2004, 08:43
It would be a shame, an indignity for any human; no matter their political beliefs to die in that sham of an action in Iraq......... actually, not really... because anyone with a decent head on their shoulders realizes this is a war that needs to be faught, and needs to be won.

The fact that you guys want to amake this an anti-bush issue is sick... just support our troops, and help them do a good job. They'd be doing a lot better in iraq if we didn't have so many idiots protesting their actions.

If you don't want to make this an anti-bush forum, don't make pro-bush policy statements, like 'this war needs to be fought' :roll:

I agree, this shouldnt be political....I happen to BE pro-bush...
NewXmen
11-05-2004, 08:51
http://www.oxfordeagle.com/news2.html

Local National Guardsmen from Company A, 2nd Battalion, 198th Armor headquartered in Oxford have received alert notification to begin planning and preparing for possible mobilization in support of Operation Iraq Freedom.

The Adjutant General’s Office of the Mississippi National Guard received the alert notification Sunday for the nearly 4,000 soldiers of the 155th Separate Armored Brigade headquartered in Tupelo.

The 155th SAB is comprised of units in 49 locations throughout the state.

The notification alerts the command of the brigade and its units to begin sensible planning and preparation for possible mobilization which could occur in the upcoming months.

“The alert notification notifies the unit that the Department of the Army is considering the unit for mobility,” said Maj. Danny Blanton of the Mississippi National Guard Public Affairs Office. “It is to get them prepared ... and is an opportunity for them to take a good hard look at their unit to make sure they are ready for any possible mobilization.”

Reviewing the unit for possible mobilization includes ensuring the company has enough troops, the company’s equipment is ready and completing paperwork.

But, if the unit will be called up for duty and where it might be deployed has yet to be decided.

“Although the brigade has received an alert, the decision to mobilize or deploy these units has not occurred,” said Maj. Gen. Harold A. Cross, the adjutant general of the Mississippi National Guard. “Our troops are trained and ready to provide any military support overseas if needed.”

The approximately 30 soldiers of Company A were last deployed in 2001 to Bosnia returning in April 2002.
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I am not in A co. 2/198 as mention in the article, but I am in another unit with the 155 SAB. I guess I will know in 90 days when I am leaving.

Thank you.
Ascensia
11-05-2004, 08:56
*salute* Good luck, God bless, spit on an anti-Bush protestor when you get home.
New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 09:02
*salute* Good luck, God bless, spit on an anti-Bush protestor when you get home.
I won't do that, I just don't want to get spit on and called a baby killer by a Nader supporter.
Capsule Corporation
11-05-2004, 09:03
*salute* Good luck, God bless, spit on an anti-Bush protestor when you get home.
I won't do that, I just don't want to get spit on and called a baby killer by a Nader supporter.funny... john kerry was the one that coined the term "baby killer" :P
Greenfarm
11-05-2004, 09:10
Capsule, funny how you suddenly ignore me....
Raysian Military Tech
11-05-2004, 09:12
Capsule, funny how you suddenly ignore me....It would be a shame, an indignity for any human; no matter their political beliefs to die in that sham of an action in Iraq......... actually, not really... because anyone with a decent head on their shoulders realizes this is a war that needs to be faught, and needs to be won.

The fact that you guys want to amake this an anti-bush issue is sick... just support our troops, and help them do a good job. They'd be doing a lot better in iraq if we didn't have so many idiots protesting their actions.

Capsule, do not take this the wrong way. I support my troops (the British) by attacking Bush and Blair's policy. I fight their methods in this war. Democracy is not a package of laws to be exported through force. Democracy is an evolutionary process where all the people and the civil service believe in such a government and choose to make it work.
True, the tyrant needed to be removed but to supplant that tyrant with another tyrant like the Democracy we enforce upon Iraq is ethically wrong. I only hope that more people realise that before more Iraqis and more Coalition troops are massacred in that Pandora's box we opened..... :roll:

happy? *mutters something about liberals who need to start smoking some logic for once...*
Greenfarm
11-05-2004, 09:15
Capsule, funny how you suddenly ignore me....It would be a shame, an indignity for any human; no matter their political beliefs to die in that sham of an action in Iraq......... actually, not really... because anyone with a decent head on their shoulders realizes this is a war that needs to be faught, and needs to be won.

The fact that you guys want to amake this an anti-bush issue is sick... just support our troops, and help them do a good job. They'd be doing a lot better in iraq if we didn't have so many idiots protesting their actions.

Capsule, do not take this the wrong way. I support my troops (the British) by attacking Bush and Blair's policy. I fight their methods in this war. Democracy is not a package of laws to be exported through force. Democracy is an evolutionary process where all the people and the civil service believe in such a government and choose to make it work.
True, the tyrant needed to be removed but to supplant that tyrant with another tyrant like the Democracy we enforce upon Iraq is ethically wrong. I only hope that more people realise that before more Iraqis and more Coalition troops are massacred in that Pandora's box we opened..... :roll:

happy? *mutters something about liberals who need to start smoking some logic for once...*

Then perhaps you would care to argue my theory rather than just insult me? Would not that be the logical thing to do? Perhaps you need to start smoking logic as well?
Lithuanighanistania
11-05-2004, 09:32
It would be a shame, an indignity for any human; no matter their political beliefs to die in that sham of an action in Iraq......... actually, not really... because anyone with a decent head on their shoulders realizes this is a war that needs to be faught, and needs to be won.

The fact that you guys want to amake this an anti-bush issue is sick... just support our troops, and help them do a good job. They'd be doing a lot better in iraq if we didn't have so many idiots protesting their actions.Like it or not, this is a Bush issue. Simply put, we wouldn't be sending soldiers there if he hadn't wanted it so badly he was willing to use false intelligence to make the case. This was not a war that needed to be fought at this time and in this way, and now innocents are dying on both sides and the survivors are having their lives changed forever, and for what? Every reason Bush has given us for being there has turned out to be complete and utter crap. We're not there because of a mistake--we could use that excuse for Vietnam. We're there because of repeated lies. How do you ask a man or woman to be the last one to die for a lie?

I agree, but I don't recall asking anyone to do anything. Until they re-introduce the draft, I could care less about this whole situation.
Ascensia
11-05-2004, 09:34
It would be a shame, an indignity for any human; no matter their political beliefs to die in that sham of an action in Iraq......... actually, not really... because anyone with a decent head on their shoulders realizes this is a war that needs to be faught, and needs to be won.

The fact that you guys want to amake this an anti-bush issue is sick... just support our troops, and help them do a good job. They'd be doing a lot better in iraq if we didn't have so many idiots protesting their actions.Like it or not, this is a Bush issue. Simply put, we wouldn't be sending soldiers there if he hadn't wanted it so badly he was willing to use false intelligence to make the case. This was not a war that needed to be fought at this time and in this way, and now innocents are dying on both sides and the survivors are having their lives changed forever, and for what? Every reason Bush has given us for being there has turned out to be complete and utter crap. We're not there because of a mistake--we could use that excuse for Vietnam. We're there because of repeated lies. How do you ask a man or woman to be the last one to die for a lie?
So we just should have waited for Saddam to die so that anarchy and chaos could consume the country naturally, without the benefit of foreign soldiers being there to keep people from killing eachother by the hundred?
Free Soviets
11-05-2004, 09:35
Anyways- woot woot being a nationalist. I think America needs more of it. (well "real" nationalism, not just knee-jerk patriotism).

eh, nationalism in places that are no longer colonies just winds up getting you into ridiculous wars that could otherwise easily have been avoided. internationalism is where its at.
New Gumboygle
11-05-2004, 09:38
There is a BIIIIIG difference between supporting the troops and supporting the war (and therefore Bush). I support the troops in their efforts, and wish them all the best. I will make no comments on my view of Bush and his policies, this is not the place for that.
New Gumboygle
11-05-2004, 09:40
There is a BIIIIIG difference between supporting the troops and supporting the war (and therefore Bush). I support the troops in their efforts, and wish them all the best. I will make no comments on my view of Bush and his policies, this is not the place for that.

But darn it, y'all make it so hard! :lol:
Psylos
11-05-2004, 09:41
Don't go there. You are putting your life in danger for interests which are not yours. Don't waste your precious life. It is needed elsewhere. If you want to be a hero, join the red cross, but please don't be killed in a foolish war.
Stephistan
11-05-2004, 09:41
Capsule, funny how you suddenly ignore me....It would be a shame, an indignity for any human; no matter their political beliefs to die in that sham of an action in Iraq......... actually, not really... because anyone with a decent head on their shoulders realizes this is a war that needs to be faught, and needs to be won.

The fact that you guys want to amake this an anti-bush issue is sick... just support our troops, and help them do a good job. They'd be doing a lot better in iraq if we didn't have so many idiots protesting their actions.

Capsule, do not take this the wrong way. I support my troops (the British) by attacking Bush and Blair's policy. I fight their methods in this war. Democracy is not a package of laws to be exported through force. Democracy is an evolutionary process where all the people and the civil service believe in such a government and choose to make it work.
True, the tyrant needed to be removed but to supplant that tyrant with another tyrant like the Democracy we enforce upon Iraq is ethically wrong. I only hope that more people realise that before more Iraqis and more Coalition troops are massacred in that Pandora's box we opened..... :roll:

happy? *mutters something about liberals who need to start smoking some logic for once...*

:roll: *mutters some thing about kids who don't even know how to live yet, let alone really know about foreign policy*
Greenfarm
11-05-2004, 09:41
It would be a shame, an indignity for any human; no matter their political beliefs to die in that sham of an action in Iraq......... actually, not really... because anyone with a decent head on their shoulders realizes this is a war that needs to be faught, and needs to be won.

The fact that you guys want to amake this an anti-bush issue is sick... just support our troops, and help them do a good job. They'd be doing a lot better in iraq if we didn't have so many idiots protesting their actions.Like it or not, this is a Bush issue. Simply put, we wouldn't be sending soldiers there if he hadn't wanted it so badly he was willing to use false intelligence to make the case. This was not a war that needed to be fought at this time and in this way, and now innocents are dying on both sides and the survivors are having their lives changed forever, and for what? Every reason Bush has given us for being there has turned out to be complete and utter crap. We're not there because of a mistake--we could use that excuse for Vietnam. We're there because of repeated lies. How do you ask a man or woman to be the last one to die for a lie?
So we just should have waited for Saddam to die so that anarchy and chaos could consume the country naturally, without the benefit of foreign soldiers being there to keep people from killing eachother by the hundred?

Erm...

People are already killing each other by the hundred.

Why not let them kill each other? A civil war would eventually result in the death of many of the 'bad' apples in the country. A gigantic national size enema to clean out all the crap to put it bluntly. Eventually, the fighting would stop and stability would ensure; most likely with international pressure afterward toward a democracy...
Buzzadonia
11-05-2004, 09:46
Good luck Keep your head down.
Dragons Bay
11-05-2004, 10:10
May God bless you in every footstep you take. Don't lose the sense of humanity over there.
Deeloleo
11-05-2004, 10:26
Good luck, be smart. Those who want to be heroes come home in boxes. Survive, that is your most important business there. Again, good luck.
Darlokonia
11-05-2004, 11:01
How in the blue hell can you fight in a war that was obviously started on a foundation of lies? I mean, first it was a fight against terrorism. Then to get rid of the WMDs. Then it was to get Saddam. Now it's to free the Iraqi's. Don't get me wrong. I respect the soldiers of all nations but I hate war. Most wars are started on a bunch of lies. If I was ever involved in a time of war where random people are drafted, I would much rather spend a year in jail than go along to a war started on big fat lies. But good luck and try not to get killed. Remember the American military motto. "Send wave after wave of men at the enemy until the run out of ammunition." Fight on soldier and torture a couple of Iraqi's for me,
Tumaniaa
11-05-2004, 11:06
Wait...
A guy who's admitted he HATES non-Americans is going over to another country with a gun and you guys tell him "good luck" ???
Darlokonia
11-05-2004, 11:07
Wait...
A guy who's admitted he HATES non-Americans is going over to another country with a gun and you guys tell him "good luck" ???

You're a stranger to sarcasm aren't you?
Tumaniaa
11-05-2004, 11:10
Wait...
A guy who's admitted he HATES non-Americans is going over to another country with a gun and you guys tell him "good luck" ???

You're a stranger to sarcasm aren't you?

Read the whole thread... I don't think there are that many people that understand sarcasm in the whole of USA.
Rotovia
11-05-2004, 11:13
Up until a few months ago I was planning on studying my psychology course through the Australian Defence Force Acadamy, thinking I could get my classes for free and a chance to "serve my country". However, I've decided I want no part of an institution that supports the "war in Iraq". That and apparently Der Kapital is banned, I'm not a communist but am offended because I like issue jumping, like the time I signed up to join the Tibetan Peace Corps.... ah good times. What was my point again? Oh yes, Army = bad because Bush = Satan.
Darlokonia
11-05-2004, 11:13
Wait...
A guy who's admitted he HATES non-Americans is going over to another country with a gun and you guys tell him "good luck" ???

You're a stranger to sarcasm aren't you?

Read the whole thread... I don't think there are that many people that understand sarcasm in teh whole of USA.

True but you kinda have to put into context to get some idea of sarcasm. I mean, it can be a double-edge sword. I know some guy got put in the stocks for putting out an ironic pamphlet on why protestants should be shot
11-05-2004, 11:41
I hope you come back alive and in one piece, New Auburnland. The best of luck to you.
Long live America!
Neo Isaac
11-05-2004, 11:51
there is never a "good time" to commit mass rapes, especially in a war where we are already having trouble winning the hearts and minds.

Hard winning someone's hearts and minds when you invade their country, turn what is barely controlled chaos into total chaos, pee on their captured soldiers faces, and run about as if there is a contest to see who can make America look as stupid as possible.
I didn't choose to liberate Iraq. I haven't pissed on a EPW. I haven't done anything to make the US look stupid to the Iraqis.

you never did anything to make the US look stupid to the Iraqis? Does that mean that you voted for Al Gore in the last election?

Otherwise that probably means that you voted for the pretzel munching college frat boy - you know, the one who invaded Iraq to rid the country of WMDs that it didnt have (i.e. on false pretences) and in retaliation for 9/11 (which was commited by religious idealists who were probably pissed at the Sons of America programme) privatised their resources, ravaged their working classes and humiliated detainees in your 'Freedom-Ghulags'!

When you say that you never did anything to make America seem stupid, don't you think that voting Halliburton Inc. for Presidency seems a bit... well... dumb?

Having said that man, i REALLY hope you don't get hurt over there, every death cuts me up and it wasnt too long ago that i was shaping up to go into IOTC for the RAF so i appreciate your compulsion to serve: our misguided efforts in Sierra Leone and intervention and subsequent cluster-bombing of civilians in the Middle East made me have a change of heart. i came to the conclusion that my government's agenda was far removed from my own nd Messrs Blair and Bush really don't care bout what happens to the guy in the firing line. it really isn't about freedom, it's just business as usual,

peace,

K
Rotovia
11-05-2004, 14:19
I hope you come back alive and in one piece, New Auburnland. The best of luck to you.
Long live America!Long live America? What are nine? Pu...lease! Viva Le France people, viva le France.
Saipea
11-05-2004, 14:21
http://www.oxfordeagle.com/news2.html

Local National Guardsmen from Company A, 2nd Battalion, 198th Armor headquartered in Oxford have received alert notification to begin planning and preparing for possible mobilization in support of Operation Iraq Freedom.

The Adjutant General’s Office of the Mississippi National Guard received the alert notification Sunday for the nearly 4,000 soldiers of the 155th Separate Armored Brigade headquartered in Tupelo.

The 155th SAB is comprised of units in 49 locations throughout the state.

The notification alerts the command of the brigade and its units to begin sensible planning and preparation for possible mobilization which could occur in the upcoming months.

“The alert notification notifies the unit that the Department of the Army is considering the unit for mobility,” said Maj. Danny Blanton of the Mississippi National Guard Public Affairs Office. “It is to get them prepared ... and is an opportunity for them to take a good hard look at their unit to make sure they are ready for any possible mobilization.”

Reviewing the unit for possible mobilization includes ensuring the company has enough troops, the company’s equipment is ready and completing paperwork.

But, if the unit will be called up for duty and where it might be deployed has yet to be decided.

“Although the brigade has received an alert, the decision to mobilize or deploy these units has not occurred,” said Maj. Gen. Harold A. Cross, the adjutant general of the Mississippi National Guard. “Our troops are trained and ready to provide any military support overseas if needed.”

The approximately 30 soldiers of Company A were last deployed in 2001 to Bosnia returning in April 2002.
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I am not in A co. 2/198 as mention in the article, but I am in another unit with the 155 SAB. I guess I will know in 90 days when I am leaving.

Nice knowing ya. lol.
Cuneo Island
11-05-2004, 14:22
Dude go to Canada. Don't participate in this screwed up war. It's bullshit. Who would want to fight for George W. Bush.
Salishe
11-05-2004, 14:31
Dude go to Canada. Don't participate in this screwed up war. It's bullshit. Who would want to fight for George W. Bush.

My two sons...both active duty Marines...both served in the combat phase of the War...any more smart-ass remarks boy?
Cuneo Island
11-05-2004, 14:32
Well good for your sons, but that is the living they have chosen. It sounds like he's pretty much getting drafted, not choosing.
Rotovia
11-05-2004, 14:33
Dude go to Canada. Don't participate in this screwed up war. It's bullshit. Who would want to fight for George W. Bush.

My two sons...both active duty Marines...both served in the combat phase of the War...any more smart-ass remarks boy?Not from him, but I'm sure the parents of Nazi soldiers said the same thing.
Rotovia
11-05-2004, 14:33
Rotovia
11-05-2004, 14:36
Dude go to Canada. Don't participate in this screwed up war. It's bullshit. Who would want to fight for George W. Bush.

My two sons...both active duty Marines...both served in the combat phase of the War...any more smart-ass remarks boy?Not from him, but I'm sure the parents of Nazi soldiers said the same thing.
Salishe
11-05-2004, 14:42
Dude go to Canada. Don't participate in this screwed up war. It's bullshit. Who would want to fight for George W. Bush.

My two sons...both active duty Marines...both served in the combat phase of the War...any more smart-ass remarks boy?Not from him, but I'm sure the parents of Nazi soldiers said the same thing.

So you're comparing my sons to Nazi soldiers now eh?
Buzzadonia
11-05-2004, 14:49
Blimey even from the other side of the atlantic I can see you should not be dissing the mans sons.
They did their bit.
Lay off
Rotovia
11-05-2004, 14:51
Dude go to Canada. Don't participate in this screwed up war. It's bullshit. Who would want to fight for George W. Bush.

My two sons...both active duty Marines...both served in the combat phase of the War...any more smart-ass remarks boy?Not from him, but I'm sure the parents of Nazi soldiers said the same thing.

So you're comparing my sons to Nazi soldiers now eh?No, I'm comparing your veiw as to that of every parent whose son/daughter serves in the armed forces. No matter what side they fight on a parent is proud that their child you fight for their country.
HARU
11-05-2004, 14:57
Get home safe, soldier.

And if you change your mind...

Head For Canada. Rumour has it that they're real nice folk up there...they play nice :wink:
Automagfreek
11-05-2004, 15:00
I think everybody needs to chill out and shut up. This is not a "debate the Iraq war" thread, this is a thread about a soldier that's going into the shit, something most of you people will never have to experience. But until you do, shut your mouth, mmmkay?

So can we PLEASE stop with all these idiotic comments and debates and get back on track?

With that said, I hope you come back safely soldier, you do your country proud regardless of your politics. My father was a US Marine so I understand what a soldier's life is about. Good luck.
Reynes
11-05-2004, 15:31
May God be with you, New Auburnland.
Kilean
11-05-2004, 16:13
I think everybody needs to chill out and shut up. This is not a "debate the Iraq war" thread, this is a thread about a soldier that's going into the shit, something most of you people will never have to experience. But until you do, shut your mouth, mmmkay?

So can we PLEASE stop with all these idiotic comments and debates and get back on track?

With that said, I hope you come back safely soldier, you do your country proud regardless of your politics. My father was a US Marine so I understand what a soldier's life is about. Good luck.

Yeah, I second that. Or third that, or something. This isn't the place for politics at all.

After all, coming from a family where somebody has served as a rear area clerk for the past 3 generations, I know meaningless prattle when I see it. :lol:
Jeruselem
11-05-2004, 16:35
Come back on one piece eh?
Watch for those Gangstas with AKs in white robes!
New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 18:26
Don't go there. You are putting your life in danger for interests which are not yours. Don't waste your precious life. It is needed elsewhere. If you want to be a hero, join the red cross, but please don't be killed in a foolish war.
I don't have a choice. I joined in March 2000 knowing I could get sent to fight in a war. I doubt the Army will release me from my contract so that I can join the red cross.
New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 18:50
How in the blue hell can you fight in a war that was obviously started on a foundation of lies? I mean, first it was a fight against terrorism. Then to get rid of the WMDs. Then it was to get Saddam. Now it's to free the Iraqi's. Don't get me wrong. I respect the soldiers of all nations but I hate war. Most wars are started on a bunch of lies. If I was ever involved in a time of war where random people are drafted, I would much rather spend a year in jail than go along to a war started on big fat lies. But good luck and try not to get killed. Remember the American military motto. "Send wave after wave of men at the enemy until the run out of ammunition." Fight on soldier and torture a couple of Iraqi's for me,
i have no choice. my personal feelings toward the war do not matter. if my unit gets sent, i would be selling out my fellow soldiers if I went AWOL or refused to fight. And I would never torture an EPW.
New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 18:53
Dude go to Canada. Don't participate in this screwed up war. It's bullshit. Who would want to fight for George W. Bush.
I am not going to sell out my fellow soldiers. they have no choice in the matter, and neither do I. We all voluntered knowing we may get sent somewhere. And I am not fighting for Bush, I am fighting for the USA.
Berkylvania
11-05-2004, 18:54
I don't agree with war and I don't agree with most of the things you say, New Auburnland, but I'll pray for you and I hope you come back safe as soon as possible. Be safe.
Free Soviets
11-05-2004, 18:55
And I would never torture an EPW.

i'm willing to bet large sums of money that lots of those who have would have said the same thing. the stanford prison experiment and milgram obedience experiment showed us otherwise. try not to get yourself put into a situation where it is even possible for you to do so.
New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 18:57
I don't agree with war and I don't agree with most of the things you say, New Auburnland, but I'll pray for you and I hope you come back safe as soon as possible. Be safe.
thanks man. its wierd seeing my NationStates "enemies" wishing me luck, but I would wish the best for yall if the situation was reversed.
New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 21:54
And I would never torture an EPW.

i'm willing to bet large sums of money that lots of those who have would have said the same thing. the stanford prison experiment and milgram obedience experiment showed us otherwise. try not to get yourself put into a situation where it is even possible for you to do so.My job would never put me in that posistion. I would never be put in charge of guarding detaines, that is the job of MPs. I would never come in contact with detainees, and never interrorgate them.

I have seen the summary of the Stanford prison experiment and it does prove that in some situations people who are normally not agressive, take on the role of the intimidator when put in those posistions. A little bit disturbing.
New Auburnland
11-05-2004, 21:54
And I would never torture an EPW.

i'm willing to bet large sums of money that lots of those who have would have said the same thing. the stanford prison experiment and milgram obedience experiment showed us otherwise. try not to get yourself put into a situation where it is even possible for you to do so.My job would never put me in that posistion. I would never be put in charge of guarding detaines, that is the job of MPs. I would never come in contact with detainees, and never interrorgate them.

I have seen the summary of the Stanford prison experiment and it does prove that in some situations people who are normally not agressive, take on the role of the intimidator when put in those posistions. A little bit disturbing.