NationStates Jolt Archive

I believe that New Zealand should join the Federated states of Australia.

What do others think?

not australian

but I think puerto rico, guam, the virgin islands and all other commonwealths should become united states though

no thanks, we don't want them ;-)

j/k

but there really isn't too much of a point to doing it.

Nah, we would only have to put them in another exclusion zone, those dreadful refugees are occassionally welcomed there. (They took quite a few from the infamous Tampa).

fuck off.

Well has anyone ever considered how convienient New Zealand would be for Australia to transport prisoners?

No more jails in Australia...just transport em all across the Tasman.

There was an article in The Weekend Australian just over a year ago commenting on just that. And the conclusion was "Why bother", since NZ and Oz have an open market and free movement of labour anyway.

How should I know? I'm a Pom!

If joined, the national football and cricket teams would be too powerful.

It would be the death of too many international sporting events.

It's not going to happen- NZ is a sovereign country, and anyone in NZ who wants to be part of Australia has already moved there.

Besides, it's useful to have a small, inoffensive country at the bottom of the world...

Oh, and just to be really pedantic: Australia is a Commonwealth, not a federation. 8)

Besides, it's useful to have a small, inoffensive country at the bottom of the world...

The US don't find us inoffensive :?

If joined, the national football and cricket teams would be too powerful.

It would be the death of too many international sporting events.

yep

I believe that New Zealand should join the Federated states of Australia.

What do others think?

Hell no! Think of the bureacrats! THINK OF THE BUREACRATS!

We have enough work dealing with the current states.

I am reminded of the time that the then Prime Minister of New Zealand, David Lange, was asked if he was concerned that so many New Zealanders were moving to Australia.

His reply : "Not at all, it raises the I.Q. in both nations".


:lol:

Gotta love a sense of humour like that, and I'm an Aussie.

Well has anyone ever considered how convienient New Zealand would be for Australia to transport prisoners?

No more jails in Australia...just transport em all across the Tasman.

What, you mean you'd send them all back to us?

Well has anyone ever considered how convienient New Zealand would be for Australia to transport prisoners?

No more jails in Australia...just transport em all across the Tasman.

What, you mean you'd send them all back to us?
Fair trade for the sheep. :wink:

Well has anyone ever considered how convienient New Zealand would be for Australia to transport prisoners?

No more jails in Australia...just transport em all across the Tasman.

What, you mean you'd send them all back to us?

It has been remarked that a Kiwi wearing a suit in Australia should be addressed as "the defendant".

I am reminded of the time that the then Prime Minister of New Zealand, David Lange, was asked if he was concerned that so many New Zealanders were moving to Australia.

His reply : "Not at all, it raises the I.Q. in both nations".


:lol:

Gotta love a sense of humour like that, and I'm an Aussie.

Actually, it was Sir Robert Muldoon, not that stupid fat whale.

I am reminded of the time that the then Prime Minister of New Zealand, David Lange, was asked if he was concerned that so many New Zealanders were moving to Australia.

His reply : "Not at all, it raises the I.Q. in both nations".


:lol:

Gotta love a sense of humour like that, and I'm an Aussie.

Actually, it was Sir Robert Muldoon, not that stupid fat whale.

Either way its very funny. As a Brit (Pom) I have no opinion on this matter as I am so far away and don't know how NZ and AUS relate to each other!

However, I would hope that they don't. Aussies are IMO the equivalent of Glaswegians and New Zealanders would be more Edinburgh types. They wouldn't mix very well.

:twisted:

It's not going to happen- NZ is a sovereign country, and anyone in NZ who wants to be part of Australia has already moved there.

Besides, it's useful to have a small, inoffensive country at the bottom of the world...

Oh, and just to be really pedantic: Australia is a Commonwealth, not a federation. 8)

Commonwealth is the official title...

However, Australia politically is a Federation, just like the USA is a Republic.

(political system)

Funny how no country in the world is known officially as a Democracy...sure does say something!

I am reminded of the time that the then Prime Minister of New Zealand, David Lange, was asked if he was concerned that so many New Zealanders were moving to Australia.

His reply : "Not at all, it raises the I.Q. in both nations".


:lol:

Gotta love a sense of humour like that, and I'm an Aussie.

Actually, it was Sir Robert Muldoon, not that stupid fat whale.

Either way its very funny. As a Brit (Pom) I have no opinion on this matter as I am so far away and don't know how NZ and AUS relate to each other!

However, I would hope that they don't. Aussies are IMO the equivalent of Glaswegians and New Zealanders would be more Edinburgh types. They wouldn't mix very well.

:twisted:

Aye, just like the Scots... Argue all the time, but team up to beat the Poms when the time comes. :twisted:

The Australian Constitution actually allows for the event that New Zealand would join the Federation.

Since Australia did own New Zealand at one stage, I see no reason as to why we cannot claim it as our own.

Gosh colonialism is fun.

It's not going to happen- NZ is a sovereign country, and anyone in NZ who wants to be part of Australia has already moved there.

Besides, it's useful to have a small, inoffensive country at the bottom of the world...

Oh, and just to be really pedantic: Australia is a Commonwealth, not a federation. 8)

Commonwealth is the official title...

However, Australia politically is a Federation, just like the USA is a Republic.

(political system)

Funny how no country in the world is known officially as a Democracy...sure does say something!

Er, are you forgetting the Democratic People's Republic Of Korea? It's democratic, as long as you vote for Kim Jong-Il...

It's not going to happen- NZ is a sovereign country, and anyone in NZ who wants to be part of Australia has already moved there.

Besides, it's useful to have a small, inoffensive country at the bottom of the world...

Oh, and just to be really pedantic: Australia is a Commonwealth, not a federation. 8)

Commonwealth is the official title...

However, Australia politically is a Federation, just like the USA is a Republic.

(political system)

Funny how no country in the world is known officially as a Democracy...sure does say something!

Er, are you forgetting the Democratic People's Republic Of Korea? It's democratic, as long as you vote for Kim Jong-Il...

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The Australian Constitution actually allows for the event that New Zealand would join the Federation.

Since Australia did own New Zealand at one stage, I see no reason as to why we cannot claim it as our own.

Gosh colonialism is fun.

No, Australia didn't actually own New Zealand, it was governed from there. Well, from New South Wales to be exact.

I think that is a typo...It should read:

Despotic

The Australian Constitution actually allows for the event that New Zealand would join the Federation.

Since Australia did own New Zealand at one stage, I see no reason as to why we cannot claim it as our own.

Gosh colonialism is fun.

No, Australia didn't actually own New Zealand, it was governed from there. Well, from New South Wales to be exact.

One of the wealthiest men in the colony of NSW actually purchased New Zealand. Of course, that didn't last long after the Crown found out!

So technically Australia has claim to New Zealand.

Well, we already own their banks, their airlines, and their Navy...so really all that is left is for the New Zealand Parliament to sign the country over.

They did some research and showed that it would cost more to run new zeland so they wouldn't make a profit, so thats why they didnt ley them join

(damn those aussie cheap asses)

How about Australia gets handed over to New Zealand? We could use some more people to toil in our coal mines and keep out the poms...

How about Australia gets handed over to New Zealand? We could use some more people to toil in our coal mines and keep out the poms...

:lol: New Zealand rule Australia?

Please don't make me laugh...it hurts too much!

It's not going to happen- NZ is a sovereign country, and anyone in NZ who wants to be part of Australia has already moved there.

Besides, it's useful to have a small, inoffensive country at the bottom of the world...

Oh, and just to be really pedantic: Australia is a Commonwealth, not a federation. 8)

Commonwealth is the official title...

However, Australia politically is a Federation, just like the USA is a Republic.

(political system)

Funny how no country in the world is known officially as a Democracy...sure does say something!

The USA is a federation too. Any nation that has self governing states forming a union, is one.

As was the former Soviet Union.

What would Australia get out of the merger? Dairy products, whitegoods and more sheep?

What would Australia get out of the merger? Dairy products, whitegoods and more sheep?

We would get New Zealand. I think that's obvious?

Why stop at Australia and NZ? I propose the unification of all nations into a single entity thus ending all poverty, war, economic competition and all other ills of the current world structure. With the world united our potential would be limitless and we would be able to conquer space in no time at all (ster trek styles).
Of course the unification of value systems must come before the unification of political systems for this to have any success at all, and who knows, a couple of hundred year and a few major wars/global catastrophies and we may all finally unite, not under national banners but as citizens of the world.

In the meantime however I would like to voice my opposition to any unification with Australia despite our "shared heritage", I mean would Canadians want to join the US? I think not...

Its difficult to see New Zealand joining the federation at the present time- until new zealand discovers the warp drive the vulcans wont want anything to do with them.

Why stop at Australia and NZ? I propose the unification of all nations into a single entity thus ending all poverty, war, economic competition and all other ills of the current world structure. With the world united our potential would be limitless and we would be able to conquer space in no time at all (ster trek styles).
Of course the unification of value systems must come before the unification of political systems for this to have any success at all, and who knows, a couple of hundred year and a few major wars/global catastrophies and we may all finally unite, not under national banners but as citizens of the world.

Fiction is grand is it not? It will never happen.

The Austra-Zealand Ruby/Leauge/Cricket/Netball team!

We'ld crush entire continents we would.

As a New Zealander, I say Over My Dead Body. I prefer our policies to Australia's, our lack of poisonous animals(I'd hate to see customs go), and our lifestyles.

The Austra-Zealand Ruby/Leauge/Cricket/Netball team!

We'ld crush entire continents we would.

League and Netball would be a pointless exercise because besides the occasional match against the poms, there's no other real challenge for either country.

Combining the 1st and 3rd best one day cricket teams in the world? hmmm....

as for rugby, I doubt either country could decide on a combined team :P

As a New Zealander, I say Over My Dead Body. I prefer our policies to Australia's, our lack of poisonous animals(I'd hate to see customs go), and our lifestyles.

I've seen some pretty poisonous kiwis.
:lol:

How about Australia gets handed over to New Zealand? We could use some more people to toil in our coal mines and keep out the poms...

I dunno what we'd do with Australia. I suppose we could use it for dairy run off. It might cost a fair bit putting a cattle bypass under the Tasman though...

How about Australia gets handed over to New Zealand? We could use some more people to toil in our coal mines and keep out the poms...

:lol: New Zealand rule Australia?

Please don't make me laugh...it hurts too much!

Oh I don't know... I've always thought you get the polititicians you deserve - and certainly the Aussies could do with a good dose of Helen Clark! Why, lashings of feminist, bleeding liberal, left leaning, hairy under-arm, gay rights advocating, cynical, sniveling, halitostically opressed and downright fashion-challenged-ness would do you all the world of good! And the Maoris will have a hikoi over the bloody Sydney harbour bridge claiming all the beaches and materways up to the Gold Coast due to their customary rights. Bloody great idea. You could learn a lot.

Helen Clarke has bigger balls than John Howard... :shock:

How about Australia gets handed over to New Zealand? We could use some more people to toil in our coal mines and keep out the poms...

:lol: New Zealand rule Australia?

Please don't make me laugh...it hurts too much!

Oh I don't know... I've always thought you get the polititicians you deserve - and certainly the Aussies could do with a good dose of Helen Clark! Why, lashings of feminist, bleeding liberal, left leaning, hairy under-arm, gay rights advocating, cynical, sniveling, halitostically opressed and downright fashion-challenged-ness would do you all the world of good! And the Maoris will have a hikoi over the bloody Sydney harbour bridge claiming all the beaches and materways up to the Gold Coast due to their customary rights. Bloody great idea. You could learn a lot.

Helen Clarke? No thanks mate...Australia wants to progress, not regress! I'll take my chances with Johnny Howard and his 3.5% economic growth and $10 billion tax cuts.

Good things about NZ:

Nice scenery
Friendly People
Fair Gun Laws
Good Hunting & Fishing
Excellent Fish & Chips and Meat Pies
DB Export Gold Beer
Tasty Chocolate & Confectionary

Bad Things about NZ:

Worthless currency
Maoris claiming the entire country
Tree-Hugging Hippies
Cold Weather
No Jobs
Crap Pay
Miles from anywhere
Political Correctness gone mad
Sheep Jokes
Pretty much everything else

And I used to live in NZ, until I realised Australia was a much better place to live and promptly shifted. Never looked back, either. And having escaped from NZ, I really don't want it becoming part of Australia. Then everyone will move here and I'll be right back where I was before I left NZ. :D

Good things about NZ:

Nice scenery
Friendly People
Fair Gun Laws
Good Hunting & Fishing
Excellent Fish & Chips and Meat Pies
DB Export Gold Beer
Tasty Chocolate & Confectionary

Bad Things about NZ:

Worthless currency
Maoris claiming the entire country
Tree-Hugging Hippies
Cold Weather
No Jobs
Crap Pay
Miles from anywhere
Political Correctness gone mad
Sheep Jokes
Pretty much everything else

And I used to live in NZ, until I realised Australia was a much better place to live and promptly shifted. Never looked back, either. And having escaped from NZ, I really don't want it becoming part of Australia. Then everyone will move here and I'll be right back where I was before I left NZ. :D

Fair point. Well regardless, they are all coming here anyway...union or not.

If joined, the national football and cricket teams would be too powerful.

It would be the death of too many international sporting events.

yep

i agree 2

yeah, New Zealand should join Australia... and the US should annex Mexico........

C'mon, this is rediculous.

As a New Zealander, I say Over My Dead Body. I prefer our policies to Australia's, our lack of poisonous animals(I'd hate to see customs go), and our lifestyles.

As the decendant of New Zealanders (first generation American) I say 'Hear hear!'. I'd much rather live in NZ than here.......

What would Australia get out of the merger? Dairy products, whitegoods and more sheep?

We would get New Zealand. I think that's obvious?

Pffft, there are backyards bigger than New Zealand.

What would Australia get out of the merger? Dairy products, whitegoods and more sheep?

We would get New Zealand. I think that's obvious?

Pffft, there are backyards bigger than New Zealand.

And Australia is just a giant golfing sandtrap...

What would Australia get out of the merger? Dairy products, whitegoods and more sheep?

We would get New Zealand. I think that's obvious?

Pffft, there are backyards bigger than New Zealand.

And Australia is just a giant golfing sandtrap...

Nah, we give those parts to the aborigines.

Harsh, but true...