Who should be Kerry's running mate? See post
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Capsule Corporation
10-05-2004, 03:26
Joe Liberman. Gotta have someone with a scrap of sanity in there...
Berkylvania
10-05-2004, 03:28
Joe Liberman. Gotta have someone with a scrap of sanity in there...
Hmmm, that rules out Liberman, then. Who's your next pick?
Personally, I would love it if John McCain was offered the spot and accepted, but I don't think he will be or would.
Panhandlia
10-05-2004, 03:28
Joe Liberman. Gotta have someone with a scrap of sanity in there...Not sure Joe L wants to lose for VP 2 elections in a row. Talk about becoming a pariah.
Capsule Corporation
10-05-2004, 03:29
Joe Liberman was the only Decent candidate the Dems had going, and they shot him down... at LEAST make him VP... then you MIGHT have a chance at beating Bush
Joe Liberman was the only Decent candidate the Dems had going, and they shot him down... at LEAST make him VP... then you MIGHT have a chance at beating Bush
Making him Vice-Prez would be like having Nader go up against Bush all by himself
Berkylvania
10-05-2004, 03:33
Joe Liberman was the only Decent candidate the Dems had going, and they shot him down... at LEAST make him VP... then you MIGHT have a chance at beating Bush
You must be 'shrooming. Liberman is the proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing. While Kerry wasn't my first pick, the Dem's fielded two better candidates for a whole host of reasons. Dean actually presented a change of pace and a realignment with the original focus of the Democratic party and Edwards offered a moderate Democrat, a southern voting base, a movie star good looks (which should never be underestimated in what has become, essentially, a popularity contest).
Liberman was somewhere near the bottom, sandwiched neatly between Al Sharpton and Satan.
Capsule Corporation
10-05-2004, 03:35
You must be 'shrooming. Liberman is the proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing. More like a Conservative trying to get you guys to present a decent candidate for president :P
If I REALLY wanted you guys to have no chance of winning, I'd suggest running with Al Sharpton ;)
f***ing hard-to-work-with poll
Berkylvania
10-05-2004, 03:40
You must be 'shrooming. Liberman is the proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing. More like a Conservative trying to get you guys to present a decent candidate for president :P
If I REALLY wanted you guys to have no chance of winning, I'd suggest running with Al Sharpton ;)
Ha! I KNEW Liberman was a Republican mole designed to bring down the Democratic party from the inside. Finally, I have confirmation. :D
Raysian Military Tech
10-05-2004, 03:44
You must be 'shrooming. Liberman is the proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing. More like a Conservative trying to get you guys to present a decent candidate for president :P
If I REALLY wanted you guys to have no chance of winning, I'd suggest running with Al Sharpton ;)
Ha! I KNEW Liberman was a Republican mole designed to bring down the Democratic party from the inside. Finally, I have confirmation. :Doh, crap no... Liberman is far from a Republican... but he's certainly not a flaming liberal (John Kerry)
Free Soviets
10-05-2004, 03:49
oh, crap no... Liberman is far from a Republican...
in what respects exactly?
Mentholyptus
10-05-2004, 03:49
Lieberman being far from a Republican?! Kerry a "flaming liberal"?! Surely I have entered...
THE CONSERVATIVE ZONE
(scary music)
In all seriousness, Lieberman is just barely right of center. Kerry is solidly to the left, but certainly not to the same degree as Dean, Kucinich, or, say, myself. But with Lieberman as his VP, Kerry would surely lose. He'd alienate the whole core of the Dem Party!
Soviet Democracy
10-05-2004, 03:50
Edwards gives the charisma and brings in the south to the Democratic ticket. I think he should be his running-mate.
Capsule Corporation
10-05-2004, 03:58
I say Liberman only because he is the only candidate with a shred of moral fiber and integrity... DK has some too... but of all of them, Joe Liberman is the only one I can say I respect.
Ashmoria
10-05-2004, 03:59
ewww lieberman is one of the most boring politicians in america and the only one with a more annoying voice than gwb
the best choice of running mate is OBVIOUSLY governor bill richardson of new mexico
he's hispanic and has experience in congress, ambassador to the UN and sec of energy under clinton.
good man, good experience, good geography
Detsl-stan
10-05-2004, 04:04
Silly, silly poll :D
Kerry will probably pick some governor for VP (Vilsack, maybe Richardson)
P.S. Capsule Corp. claims to like Lieberman but keeps misspelling his name :wink:
Incertonia
10-05-2004, 04:13
I'll tell you my dream pick--former Senator Gary Hart of Colorado.
He's the co-author of the Hart-Rudman report on national security--you know, the one that Cheney ignored until 9-11. He also recommended a Department of Homeland Security and improved security for both air and sea ports well before 9-11.
Moreover, he's charismatic and well liked in a state that has trended Republican in the past but has started leaning back to the Democrats in the last couple of years--Colorado--and would strengthen the Democratic party's chances in the west, helping to solidify New Mexico and perhaps putting Arizona even more in play.
But most of all, I just want to see him blast Cheney in the VP debate. That would be a thing of beauty.
He has two downsides--he's older (in his late 60s I believe, though he doesn't look it), and he had to drop out of the running in 1984 because of the Donna Rice scandal. But to drag a couple of older examples out to help me make my argument, Reagan proved that age doesn't always matter, and Clinton proved you can still do a hell of a job even if you think with your penis. Besides, Hart hasn't had a scandal since then--maybe he's gotten control of it (or maybe nobody's cared). But post-Clinton, I don't think it's a major issue.
Mentholyptus
10-05-2004, 04:13
Kerry will probably pick some governor for VP (Vilsack, maybe Richardson)
Yeah that's the most likely scenario. And I would put my money on Richardson, much as I wish Napolitano had a shot at the nomination (finally, an AZ democrat doing something other than rotting in the state Senate!).
Cuneo Island
10-05-2004, 04:13
It's Bill Clinton.
Capsule Corporation
10-05-2004, 04:13
Silly, silly poll :D
Kerry will probably pick some governor for VP (Vilsack, maybe Richardson)
P.S. Capsule Corp. claims to like Lieberman but keeps misspelling his name :wink:Not as bad as Teddy Kennedy calling for "Rumsfield"'s resignation :P
Incertonia
10-05-2004, 04:40
Kerry will probably pick some governor for VP (Vilsack, maybe Richardson)
Yeah that's the most likely scenario. And I would put my money on Richardson, much as I wish Napolitano had a shot at the nomination (finally, an AZ democrat doing something other than rotting in the state Senate!).I still think she's got a shot, and she wouldn't be a bad choice either. Here's another potential female candidate for you--Senator Mary Landrieu from Louisiana.
Daistallia 2104
10-05-2004, 05:01
Richardson or Edwards. I would love to see McCain, but that is highly unlikely. Richardson would be good. Edwards would at least balance the ticket geographically.
Josh Dollins
10-05-2004, 05:06
kerry is a filthy liberal
So vp I'd prefer of all those mccain lieberman is an alright guy as well but I didn't see him on the ballot even of those to probably still mccain.
I doubt mccain as well very much so like Daistallia 2104 before me.
I still wouldn't vote kerry I'd vote anyone but kerry bush is better (i'd like better than bush though)
Soviet Haaregrad
10-05-2004, 05:12
Lieberman is enoguh to make me not support the Democrat party. Mr. Hey-Let's-Restrict-Freedom-of-Speech-In-The-Entertainment-Industry can rot in hell.
And he can take Tipper Gore with him. :evil:
Josh Dollins
10-05-2004, 05:14
Lieberman is enoguh to make me not support the Democrat party. Mr. Hey-Let's-Restrict-Freedom-of-Speech-In-The-Entertainment-Industry can rot in hell.
And he can take Tipper Gore with him. :evil:
good point.
Incertonia
10-05-2004, 05:22
Lieberman is enoguh to make me not support the Democrat party. Mr. Hey-Let's-Restrict-Freedom-of-Speech-In-The-Entertainment-Industry can rot in hell.
And he can take Tipper Gore with him. :evil:Just to let you know, Lieberman is pretty reviled inside the Democratic party right now and has been for a year or so. You see how much support his Joe-mentum got him in the primaries, right? And after his little episode with the Rumsfeld testimony, there are plenty of people comparing him to Zell Miller. I did. Lieberman is a DINO--Democrat in name only.
Democratic Nationality
10-05-2004, 05:52
Definitely Hillary. Things are going so bad for Bush that maybe only Hillary can save it for him (Bush). If Kerry picks her, then Kerry loses, plain and simple.
She may not be a more extreme liberal-leftist nut than Kerry, but she comes across as one, more so than Kerry, who at least has learnt to moderate his extremism in public during the presidential campaign. No real liberal could ever be elected president of this country if he said what he really meant...
But Hillary, she's another story, she couldn't close her mouth and with her history, she would bury Kerry. *But* it's not going to happen. Kerry will likely pick someone with at least a little bit of history of being a little bit rational -i.e., conservative - so as not to scare the electorate. Oh well. :(
New Auburnland
10-05-2004, 05:54
If he was smart, he would convince Nader to run as his VP and promise him some kind of power on his staff. The votes Nader is going to pull away from Kerry will cost Kerry the election, mark my words.
Incertonia
10-05-2004, 07:01
If he was smart, he would convince Nader to run as his VP and promise him some kind of power on his staff. The votes Nader is going to pull away from Kerry will cost Kerry the election, mark my words.It's a balancing act. Nader would scare away the moderate section of the swing voters, so Kerry has to calculate whether he's more likely to pull more with Nader than he'll lose from the center or vice versa.
Or he could just pick the best person for the job. Like that'll happen. The minute any politician does that, I'll be amazed.
Felinofilia
10-05-2004, 07:05
i wish nader would just crawl away somewhere.
he should go with edwards - all the polls show that to be the strongest ticket.
Kerry will probably pick some governor for VP (Vilsack, maybe Richardson)
Yeah that's the most likely scenario. And I would put my money on Richardson, much as I wish Napolitano had a shot at the nomination (finally, an AZ democrat doing something other than rotting in the state Senate!).
Richardson won't run. He's already announced that. Sorry :-(
Kerry will probably pick some governor for VP (Vilsack, maybe Richardson)
Yeah that's the most likely scenario. And I would put my money on Richardson, much as I wish Napolitano had a shot at the nomination (finally, an AZ democrat doing something other than rotting in the state Senate!).I still think she's got a shot, and she wouldn't be a bad choice either. Here's another potential female candidate for you--Senator Mary Landrieu from Louisiana.
I hope not. We need as many Democrats in the Senate as possible, and she fought too hard for that seat to give it up now.
Stephistan
10-05-2004, 07:09
Silly, silly poll :D
Kerry will probably pick some governor for VP (Vilsack, maybe Richardson)
P.S. Capsule Corp. claims to like Lieberman but keeps misspelling his name :wink:Not as bad as Teddy Kennedy calling for "Rumsfield"'s resignation :P
Donald Rumsfeld should be fired. No question about it.
As for Joe Lieberman, he's a total pansy. I wouldn't let him babysit my children, let alone a country.
Incertonia
10-05-2004, 07:22
I hope not. We need as many Democrats in the Senate as possible, and she fought too hard for that seat to give it up now.The advantage of Landrieu is that Kathleen Blanco, a newly elected Democrat, would get to choose her replacement. That's exactly the reason why Hillary Clinton can't be selected--the governor of NY is George Pataki, a Republican, and he'd get to choose her replacement.