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17 but never had a girlfriend

Letila
09-05-2004, 17:54
I'm 17 years old and I've never had a girlfriend. Isn't that terrible? I only have one more year in high school.

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The fairy tinkerbelly
09-05-2004, 17:58
how many girls have you asked out?
Kutuzov
09-05-2004, 17:59
So? Same here. I certainly don't feel deprived.
Letila
09-05-2004, 18:06
how many girls have you asked out?

None, I don't know how to.

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"But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality."
Free your mind! (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html)
I like big butts!

http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/eddy_the_great/steatopygia.jpg
Japaica
09-05-2004, 18:06
ask through a friend. That's always easier.
The fairy tinkerbelly
09-05-2004, 18:13
how many girls have you asked out?

None, I don't know how to.



well, it's your own fault then, if you want a girlfriend go out and get one, it's the guy's job to ask the girl out, not the other way round! just start a conversation with a girl you like, once you get talking, i'm sure you'll find it easier to ask her out, i don't really know though, i've never had to ask a guy out
Letila
09-05-2004, 18:27
well, it's your own fault then, if you want a girlfriend go out and get one, it's the guy's job to ask the girl out, not the other way round! just start a conversation with a girl you like, once you get talking, i'm sure you'll find it easier to ask her out, i don't really know though, i've never had to ask a guy out

It's that simple? Anything else I should know?

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"But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality."
Free your mind! (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html)
I like big butts!

http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/eddy_the_great/steatopygia.jpg
Bonilika
09-05-2004, 18:28
Ah, its nothing to worry about man.
The fairy tinkerbelly
09-05-2004, 18:31
well, it's your own fault then, if you want a girlfriend go out and get one, it's the guy's job to ask the girl out, not the other way round! just start a conversation with a girl you like, once you get talking, i'm sure you'll find it easier to ask her out, i don't really know though, i've never had to ask a guy out

It's that simple? Anything else I should know?




hmmm..........don't stare at her chest when you talk to the girl, it's really annoying when lads do that
09-05-2004, 18:32
Why are there these threads in every forum I go to.

You probably have some severe Social inabilities.
You shouldnt Get a Girlfriend Because you feel you need to, You should get one because you want to. And If you arent Hanging out with Women Because you enjoy Thier company rather than just viewing them as Prospective Lays you shouldnt bother. For that Theres Hookers, Or at least Mrs. Palmer.

Get some Sun, Get some Excerise and Get some Social Contact with people outside of school and the ladies shall come. And in your case It's probably better to try and be yourself rather than just act as everyone Else who pulls chicks does.
Bonilika
09-05-2004, 18:37
women ain't special, they just have tits and stuff. Some can be right bitches, but on the bright side, there are some really nice ladies out there.
09-05-2004, 18:43
well, it's your own fault then, if you want a girlfriend go out and get one, it's the guy's job to ask the girl out, not the other way round! just start a conversation with a girl you like, once you get talking, i'm sure you'll find it easier to ask her out, i don't really know though, i've never had to ask a guy out

It's that simple? Anything else I should know?

Yeah, after you've started a conversation with a girl you like, chances are that you don't like her anymore. If it starts to head that direction, ask her for a kiss. If you get one, you might start to like her again. :wink:
The fairy tinkerbelly
09-05-2004, 18:45
women ain't special, they just have tits and stuff.

:roll: men!
09-05-2004, 18:50
well, it's your own fault then, if you want a girlfriend go out and get one, it's the guy's job to ask the girl out, not the other way round!

Women. :roll:
Letila
09-05-2004, 18:51
I'll try your advice. I have a friend who's only 13 but has a girlfriend!

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"But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality."
Free your mind! (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html)
I like big butts!

http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/eddy_the_great/steatopygia.jpg
The fairy tinkerbelly
09-05-2004, 18:51
well, it's your own fault then, if you want a girlfriend go out and get one, it's the guy's job to ask the girl out, not the other way round!

Women. :roll:
:D
The Great Leveller
09-05-2004, 18:51
women ain't special, they just have tits and stuff.

:roll: men!

Women are special because they have tits and stuff. Better? </jk>



I wouldn't worry about it Letila, I was the same (and still am to an extent).

Just don't try asking one out because you want to get laid, actually like them.

If your frightened of being rejected, don't worry. If your rejected your rejected the world won't end (something I was surprised to find out).
The fairy tinkerbelly
09-05-2004, 18:53
I'll try your advice. I have a friend who's only 13 but has a girlfriend!



let me know how it goes (i'm very nosey)
Letila
09-05-2004, 18:53
Just don't try asking one out because you want to get laid, actually like them.

It's not that. I'm just worried that I'll never have a family or anything.

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"But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality."
Free your mind! (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html)
I like big butts!

http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/eddy_the_great/steatopygia.jpg
Free Soviets
09-05-2004, 18:55
you could try starting off with ambiguous dates. ask some girl to go to the movies or just hang out with you and some other people.

or else just take the plunge. you win some, you lose some. its slightly less of a big deal once you've gone through with it
Superpower07
09-05-2004, 18:56
So? Same here. I certainly don't feel deprived.

Same here. Single and loving it!
Kholint
09-05-2004, 18:57
...wait...you are asking Nationstates players how to get a girlfriend?

That logic is screwed.

Although, I do have one suggestion- those funny 118 people off the telly seem to know everything.
Call 118 118 and ask about "how to get a girlfriend".
The fairy tinkerbelly
09-05-2004, 18:58
So? Same here. I certainly don't feel deprived.

Same here. Single and loving it!

i'm single, not really loving it though, i have to pay for the cinema and stuff myself now
09-05-2004, 19:00
So? Same here. I certainly don't feel deprived.

Same here. Single and loving it!

i'm single, not really loving it though, i have to pay for the cinema and stuff myself now

Here's an idea! Why don't you start to talk with a guy you like and maybe ask him out? We are living in 2004 afterall... :wink:
Good God
09-05-2004, 19:03
Just don't try asking one out because you want to get laid, actually like them.

It's not that. I'm just worried that I'll never have a family or anything.


Lol man I met my missus at 21 we clicked never went out to pull saw her on the dance floor at a party knew she was the one for me we now have 2 kids and will have been together nearly 9 years. It just happens mate but go forth and have confidence (not arrogance cos thats shit) speak to girls get to know them make them laugh and enjoy yourself. They are not aliens they speak your language and they are usually as shy as you. If you don't ask you will never find out will you. BTW be prepared for a few knockbacks mate its not as straight forward as there she is and bam u have a missus some will say no some will say worse some will even swear at you (depending on alchohol levels) but some will actually say yes I'd love to go out with you. Learn to walk before you run and you'll be fine. One last thing ignore those that would see to discourage you. GO FOR IT. Good luck my man.
Free Soviets
09-05-2004, 19:04
...wait...you are asking Nationstates players how to get a girlfriend?

That logic is screwed.

except that a fairly large number of us are/were married, are living with our significant other(s), or in general are in our late teens and early twenties (or beyond) and therefore have just a tiny bit of experience in these matters.
The fairy tinkerbelly
09-05-2004, 19:06
So? Same here. I certainly don't feel deprived.

Same here. Single and loving it!

i'm single, not really loving it though, i have to pay for the cinema and stuff myself now

Here's an idea! Why don't you start to talk with a guy you like and maybe ask him out? We are living in 2004 afterall... :wink:

because i'm not single through lack of offers, it's because i've said no to all the offers i've had, i only want one guy at the moment and i don't think he trusts me enough to go out with me again
The Great Leveller
09-05-2004, 19:07
Just don't try asking one out because you want to get laid, actually like them.

It's not that. I'm just worried that I'll never have a family or anything.


You have a long way to go till then.
Novus Atlantica
09-05-2004, 19:09
Eh... It took me a while before I had the courage to ask this girl out (she rejected me though!! :cry: ) I was just lucky in that my sense of humor granted me the title of one of her best friends and now she talks to me all the time. Even though she won't go out with me.

The world doesn't end when you're rejected, but I can't get over it for some reason, every spare minute I think about it and it makes me either sad or angry.

I recommend finding out all about her life and what's going on so you don't end up asking her out at the wrong time, like I did, when she is "stressed out" and is in the middle of a crisis with her best friend.
09-05-2004, 19:09
i'm single, not really loving it though, i have to pay for the cinema and stuff myself now

Here's an idea! Why don't you start to talk with a guy you like and maybe ask him out? We are living in 2004 afterall... :wink:

because i'm not single through lack of offers, it's because i've said no to all the offers i've had, i only want one guy at the moment and i don't think he trusts me enough to go out with me again

:shock: What did you do? Ate his fries? Married his father? Something in between?
Kholint
09-05-2004, 19:10
...wait...you are asking Nationstates players how to get a girlfriend?

That logic is screwed.

except that a fairly large number of us are/were married, are living with our significant other(s), or in general are in our late teens and early twenties (or beyond) and therefore have just a tiny bit of experience in these matters.

Don't be in denial!
Nationstates players have no friends!
Kholint
09-05-2004, 19:11
i'm single, not really loving it though, i have to pay for the cinema and stuff myself now

Here's an idea! Why don't you start to talk with a guy you like and maybe ask him out? We are living in 2004 afterall... :wink:

because i'm not single through lack of offers, it's because i've said no to all the offers i've had, i only want one guy at the moment and i don't think he trusts me enough to go out with me again

:shock: What did you do? Ate his fries? Married his father? Something in between?

I don't trust anyone. I'm being stalked!
The fairy tinkerbelly
09-05-2004, 19:14
i'm single, not really loving it though, i have to pay for the cinema and stuff myself now

Here's an idea! Why don't you start to talk with a guy you like and maybe ask him out? We are living in 2004 afterall... :wink:

because i'm not single through lack of offers, it's because i've said no to all the offers i've had, i only want one guy at the moment and i don't think he trusts me enough to go out with me again

:shock: What did you do? Ate his fries? Married his father? Something in between?

i went out with my mates and i kissed 8 guys (we were having a pulling competition)
Kholint
09-05-2004, 19:15
Pulling competition?
Like Tug-of-war?
Felis Lux
09-05-2004, 19:16
Well, fair enough reason for him to be a bit wary of trusting you. It's your life, not his, but, on the other hand, if you want to gear your relationship in a way that that sort of 'just messing about' is still OK, you both would need to be clear on where you stand first.
Panhandlia
09-05-2004, 19:22
how many girls have you asked out?

None, I don't know how to.
Right there is your problem, son. Just do it, let the words flow...so what if you get shot down a few times?
Japaica
09-05-2004, 19:27
Wait. Everyone shut up. I have a solution for the man.

Ok Letila. Listen to this. Move to Amsterdam. Pot is legal. Prostitutes are legal. Put two and two together. Get the prostitutes high so they have sex with you and you don't even need to pay anything. :lol:
Bonilika
09-05-2004, 19:29
Wait. Everyone shut up. I have a solution for the man.

Ok Letila. Listen to this. Move to Amsterdam. Pot is legal. Prostitutes are legal. Put two and two together. Get the prostitutes high so they have sex with you and you don't even need to pay anything. :lol:

ROFL!!!!!
thats so tempting :wink:
Im prefer being single, before my last gf i wanted one so much, got one the she turned into the spawn of satan lol
The Great Leveller
09-05-2004, 19:30
Wait. Everyone shut up. I have a solution for the man.

Ok Letila. Listen to this. Move to Amsterdam. Pot is legal. Prostitutes are legal. Put two and two together. Get the prostitutes high so they have sex with you and you don't even need to pay anything. :lol:

Except fo rthe pot and the motel room of course.
Panhandlia
09-05-2004, 19:32
Wait. Everyone shut up. I have a solution for the man.

Ok Letila. Listen to this. Move to Amsterdam. Pot is legal. Prostitutes are legal. Put two and two together. Get the prostitutes high so they have sex with you and you don't even need to pay anything. :lol:

Except fo rthe pot and the motel room of course.Since it is the Netherlands, he probably can get the pot and a room from the government by claiming to need the pot for medicinal purposes (cure something blue, get it?) and claim to be homeless. Ta-da!! Case solved.

No, wait...Letila doesn't believe in governments...
Tumaniaa
09-05-2004, 19:32
I'm 17 years old and I've never had a girlfriend. Isn't that terrible? I only have one more year in high school.

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"But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality."
Free your mind! (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html)
I like big butts!

http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/eddy_the_great/steatopygia.jpg

Aren't there clubs and such where you live?
The Great Leveller
09-05-2004, 19:34
I'm 17 years old and I've never had a girlfriend. Isn't that terrible? I only have one more year in high school.

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"But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality."
Free your mind! (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html)
I like big butts!

http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/eddy_the_great/steatopygia.jpg

Aren't there clubs and such where you live?

What's the point of going clubbing when you cannot drink?

Brings up another question, does having a high drinking age encourage pill taking?
Japaica
09-05-2004, 19:34
Wait. Everyone shut up. I have a solution for the man.

Ok Letila. Listen to this. Move to Amsterdam. Pot is legal. Prostitutes are legal. Put two and two together. Get the prostitutes high so they have sex with you and you don't even need to pay anything. :lol:

Except fo rthe pot and the motel room of course.Since it is the Netherlands, he probably can get the pot and a room from the government by claiming to need the pot for medicinal purposes (cure something blue, get it?) and claim to be homeless. Ta-da!! Case solved.

No, wait...Letila doesn't believe in governments...

Damn good idea.
Panhandlia
09-05-2004, 19:37
Wait. Everyone shut up. I have a solution for the man.

Ok Letila. Listen to this. Move to Amsterdam. Pot is legal. Prostitutes are legal. Put two and two together. Get the prostitutes high so they have sex with you and you don't even need to pay anything. :lol:

Except fo rthe pot and the motel room of course.Since it is the Netherlands, he probably can get the pot and a room from the government by claiming to need the pot for medicinal purposes (cure something blue, get it?) and claim to be homeless. Ta-da!! Case solved.

No, wait...Letila doesn't believe in governments...

Damn good idea."Of course it is!" - God (Monty Python and the Holy Grail)
Kholint
09-05-2004, 19:40
I've been to Venice. That was horrible.
Ifracombe
09-05-2004, 19:43
Well, i don't know how many 17 year old female anarchists you may find, so you may have to settle :) Don't worry, you have your entire life. Sometimes it's better. I had a long time bf, and he even talked about us getting married, then *poof* one day he ended it. Sometimes love is more painful than happy, wait until you are more mature to worry about silly things like that :) Just have fun, I've realized how fun being single can actually be!
Free Soviets
09-05-2004, 19:48
17 year old female anarchists

hey, good idea. anarchist wimmin are cool. you should track down some.

We fell in love in the wreckage, shouted out songs in the uproar, danced joyfully in the heaviest shackles they could forge; we smuggled our stories through the gauntlets of silence, starvation, and subjugation, to bring them back to life again and again as bombs and beating hearts; we built castles in the sky from the ruins of hell on earth.

Accepting no constraints from without, we countenanced none within ourselves, either, and found that the world opened before us like the petals of a rose.
09-05-2004, 19:57
OK. My problem now.

At the age of 12 (right now), I revealed one of my secrets to my crush (we're in the same class for Math/Sci, Humanities, Health, and PE), which is obvious because of the thread I'm posting in. One month has passed since I told her, and I don't have an answer from her, anything about love. And I know that she likes someone else, but if she doesn't tell me (which means she has no idea whether I know or not), how can I help her? And Embarrassment is always on the move.

Advice?

Note:
I'm charismatic and the other one's cute.
QahJoh
09-05-2004, 20:05
I'm 17 years old and I've never had a girlfriend. Isn't that terrible? I only have one more year in high school.

I'm 19 and in college. Never been on a date, only kissed a girl once- and that wasn't even on the lips. I basically have the same issue you have- but I have more pressing matters on my plate at present than my lack of a love life.

I don't see it as being "terrible". Not optimal, maybe, but most things aren't. Besides, obviously it doesn't bother you as much as you say, otherwise you'd have done something about it.

My advice is to get over it- either by solving your "problem", or to stop obsessing over it. If not having a girlfriend by age 17 is the biggest problem you have, you're really pretty fortunate. I spent my 17th birthday in a hospital while my mother underwent brain surgery. A little perspective does wonders, doesn't it?

Look at it this way: either you'll get over your inability to ask girls out, or you'll die celibate and alone.

Feel better? :D
Ifracombe
09-05-2004, 20:05
OK. My problem now.

At the age of 12 (right now), I revealed one of my secrets to my crush (we're in the same class for Math/Sci, Humanities, Health, and PE), which is obvious because of the thread I'm posting in. One month has passed since I told her, and I don't have an answer from her, anything about love. And I know that she likes someone else, but if she doesn't tell me (which means she has no idea whether I know or not), how can I help her? And Embarrassment is always on the move.

Advice?

Note:
I'm charismatic and the other one's cute.
you think that because she hasnt told you, she might like you? NOPE. She's probably avoiding you. Personally, i think you're too young to worry anyways.
Kholint
09-05-2004, 20:07
12+love= ??

You can't "love" when you are 12 years old.
Ifracombe
09-05-2004, 20:09
12+love= ??

You can't "love" when you are 12 years old.

12+love=Barbie and Ken (but even they divorced or something, didn't they? Sad world)
Kholint
09-05-2004, 20:10
they divorced?


so, the church allows plastic dolls to get married, but not homosexual couples?

Again, sad world...
The Great Leveller
09-05-2004, 20:12
they divorced?


so, the church allows plastic dolls to get married, but not homosexual couples?

Again, sad world...

They have to, otherwise Hollywood would be screwed </(crap) joke>
Norse Lands
09-05-2004, 20:13
Thats a pain I know all too well. Cheer up old chap, they'll come round someday.
Renard
09-05-2004, 20:16
well, it's your own fault then, if you want a girlfriend go out and get one, it's the guy's job to ask the girl out, not the other way round!
Don't tell my GF that then. :P
Ifracombe
09-05-2004, 20:18
they divorced?


so, the church allows plastic dolls to get married, but not homosexual couples?

Again, sad world...

They have to, otherwise Hollywood would be screwed </(crap) joke>

ohhhhh, bad one.. :lol:
09-05-2004, 20:18
Hey don't worry about it man. I'm 16 an have only been in one serious relationship and i never thought i would really but then the girl just came along an we clicked.
just watch out for the bitches that will turn you around and kick you up the butt so hard you'll see stars.
Josh Dollins
09-05-2004, 20:30
Don't sweat it I'm 16 and haven't had any either. Just friends who were girls I've had/still have about5-7 of them but no girlfriends.
Soviet Democracy
09-05-2004, 20:31
I'm 17 years old and I've never had a girlfriend. Isn't that terrible? I only have one more year in high school.

I use to be like that, 17 without a girlfriend. But now I have one and am still 17. Almost 4 months! :D
Kholint
09-05-2004, 20:32
Wait, haven't we all forgotten something?

This guy who started the thread....

what does he LOOK like?
Cuneo Island
09-05-2004, 20:33
It's alright dude. You'll find one. I did.
GLA Terrorists
09-05-2004, 20:34
I'm 17 years old and I've never had a girlfriend. Isn't that terrible? I only have one more year in high school.

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"But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality."
Free your mind! (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html)
I like big butts!

http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/eddy_the_great/steatopygia.jpg

...then get off your computer ass and find one
New Auburnland
09-05-2004, 20:34
I'm 17 years old and I've never had a girlfriend. Isn't that terrible? I only have one more year in high school.
you suck at life.
Japaica
09-05-2004, 20:34
All you people should:

Masterbate
Jerk off
Jerk the chicken
Strip the Billy

However you would like to say it, just do it.
Kholint
09-05-2004, 20:35
I'm 17 years old and I've never had a girlfriend. Isn't that terrible? I only have one more year in high school.
you suck at life.

heh
Argyres
09-05-2004, 20:36
I didn't have a serious girlfriend till I got into college (last year). It never bothered me, and it really shouldn't bother you unless you're actively looking for them for yourself, and not to fit into the stereotype that you have to get laid on prom, etc. If that's why you're looking for someone you'll probably always be disappointed.
Kholint
09-05-2004, 20:38
I like the quote:

"You suck at life"

It's so generalised, and a brilliant insult!
Letila
09-05-2004, 21:42
I didn't have a serious girlfriend till I got into college (last year). It never bothered me, and it really shouldn't bother you unless you're actively looking for them for yourself, and not to fit into the stereotype that you have to get laid on prom, etc. If that's why you're looking for someone you'll probably always be disappointed.

I suppose there is still some hope. I guess my main problem is shyness.

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"But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality."
Free your mind! (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html)
I like big butts!

http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/eddy_the_great/steatopygia.jpg
09-05-2004, 21:48
women ain't special, they just have tits and stuff. Some can be right bitches, but on the bright side, there are some really nice ladies out there.Men like this person shouldn't be looked at if you're looking for a measure of erm what men really are like. We aren't all this... agh.
Letila
09-05-2004, 23:36
I guess I just need to stop being shy, though how do I do that?

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"But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality."
Free your mind! (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html)
I like big butts!

http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/eddy_the_great/steatopygia.jpg
Garabedian
09-05-2004, 23:55
Its because you are probably ugly. High School girls care about it, but they care less later on.
Cuneo Island
09-05-2004, 23:56
Dude just take the plunge. I did and I'm now happily married to a fine woman.
The Great Leveller
10-05-2004, 00:07
dp
The Great Leveller
10-05-2004, 00:10
tp
The Great Leveller
10-05-2004, 00:10
I guess I just need to stop being shy, though how do I do that?


A few ways.
Get drunk (not the best one)
Take cocaine (this is in jest, do not do it)
Just do it (honestly, if you shot down the world won't end, you should be over it in a week)
Ask someone else to find out if they like you. (although you might look like a pussy)
Get her drunk, hope if she says yes she will remember, if she says no hope she forgets (really, really don't do this, even if it works it'll look dodgy)

PS. Honestly, once you do it, even if you are rejected, you won't feel bad and will wonder why you fussed so much. I can remember the first I asked a girl out. I must have planned to do it like five times before I did and I was shit scared how she would react. She said no, we're still friends, and I felt better that I had said it
Cuneo Island
10-05-2004, 00:11
Get off NS and go find that chick.
Colodia
10-05-2004, 00:12
I'm 17 years old and I've never had a girlfriend. Isn't that terrible? I only have one more year in high school.

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"But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality."
Free your mind! (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html)
I like big butts!

http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/eddy_the_great/steatopygia.jpg

is it because your standards for butts are too high?
Cuneo Island
10-05-2004, 00:13
Good point dude.
Colodia
10-05-2004, 00:17
I remember when I first asked a girl out and got shot down 1 year and a half ago

I'm still pissed at her and avoid eye contact with her at all costs


It's not so bad after the first day
Cuneo Island
10-05-2004, 00:18
I would think girls who's butts were super big would be easy to get. I mean most guys don't think the same way Letila does.
The Great Leveller
10-05-2004, 00:20
I would think girls who's butts were super big would be easy to get. I mean most guys don't think the same way Letila does.

Maybe that could be pary of the problem.
The Zoogie People
10-05-2004, 00:20
Why are there these threads in every forum I go to.

You probably have some severe Social inabilities.
You shouldnt Get a Girlfriend Because you feel you need to, You should get one because you want to. And If you arent Hanging out with Women Because you enjoy Thier company rather than just viewing them as Prospective Lays you shouldnt bother. For that Theres Hookers, Or at least Mrs. Palmer.

Get some Sun, Get some Excerise and Get some Social Contact with people outside of school and the ladies shall come. And in your case It's probably better to try and be yourself rather than just act as everyone Else who pulls chicks does.

So I have severe social inabilities? :( Oh well, it's been suggested often before :P

Like New Astrolia said, you shouldn't get a girlfriend because you feel you need to...and besides, it's not really your job to ask them out. Well, not technically.

Or you can be like me with my severe social inabilities ;) and forget about the whole thing and not care at all about future marital status :P
Cuneo Island
10-05-2004, 00:20
Just get off NS and go get her dude. You can do it. But not by sitting here.
The Great Leveller
10-05-2004, 00:23
Just get off NS and go get her dude. You can do it. But not by sitting here.

He's not on at the moment.

:shock:

Maybe he has taken the plunge.

:D

*Starts chant*

Go Letilan, Go Letilan, go go go

(yeah I know I suck at making chants)
Cuneo Island
10-05-2004, 00:24
Chants are for baseball players and cheerleaders man. It's alright if you suck.
Soviet Haaregrad
10-05-2004, 00:39
Don't bring up politics right away. You know, unless you know she's an anarchist.
Free Soviets
10-05-2004, 00:41
Don't bring up politics right away. You know, unless you know she's an anarchist.

and if she's not, don't come out and say you are one right away either. lots of people agree with anarchist principles as long you don't call them anarchist principles.
Soviet Haaregrad
10-05-2004, 00:53
Don't bring up politics right away. You know, unless you know she's an anarchist.

and if she's not, don't come out and say you are one right away either. lots of people agree with anarchist principles as long you don't call them anarchist principles.

To some extent they might.

Unless they're fascists or nationalists.
Cuneo Island
10-05-2004, 00:54
Politics is not a good starter subject. It's tough to talk about politics unless you really know the person.
Ashmoria
10-05-2004, 00:55
first of all, getting a girlfriend isnt like getting a car. you dont GET one, you develop a relationship.

start by working on yourself, if necessary. look your best, smell your best, dress your best, act your best. you dont need to be fancy , just well turned out.

start by talking to some girls. develop some friendships even if they are girls you know you dont want to date, girls go on each others recommendations. if all the girls think you are a dweeb, the girl of your dreams may well take a pass if you ask her out. if all the girls think you are a good guy, she may give you a chance.

don't overstep your "class" at the beginning. if you are on the 2nd string chess team, the head cheerleader isnt going to date you. at least not without getting to be really good friends first.

if you do have your eye on a girl who is "way too good" for you, you are gonna have to start by dating a girl who isnt your first choice but will actually go out with you (geez its not like you have to marry her because you ask her out to a movie. get over the idea that every girl you date has to be the girl of your dreams)

girls find boys who are actively dating to be more "datable". its like you have passed a test and are now in the "boys worth dating" club. the girl of your dreams will be more likely to say yes if she sees you dating other girls that she has a good opinion of.

when you are on a date, treat her well. a girl wants to feel like you think she is special so show her that you do by treating her like a lady. not too over the top, just be nice.

dont be thinking that because a girl has accepted a date that she is even going to be willing to kiss you. she may or she may not be ready for that sort of thing, look for signs of willingness and just go slowly.

expect it to take many months before a girl who is worth going out with is willing to actually have sex with you. sometimes it happens sooner, in reality most girls 17 and over have already had their hearts broken and are much more cautious than teen movies would have you believe.

some people are just not daters. for some people serious relationships are too special to waste on casual dating. they wait until they find the right other person, date only her, then marry her. im not saying its better than being a big time dater, but it may be the kind of guy you really are. theres nothing wrong with waiting for the right one to come along.
Soviet Haaregrad
10-05-2004, 00:56
Politics is not a good starter subject. It's tough to talk about politics unless you really know the person.

Too true.
Cuneo Island
10-05-2004, 00:57
You know what really sucks. Is if you fall in love with someone and find out that they have terrible political views. So you do have to bring it up sooner or later. Just not right away.
Free Soviets
10-05-2004, 00:58
Unless they're fascists or nationalists.

if an anarchist is dating a fascist, the sex had better be amazing
Cuneo Island
10-05-2004, 00:58
Good theory dude.
Shroomton
10-05-2004, 01:43
You know what really sucks. Is if you fall in love with someone and find out that they have terrible political views. So you do have to bring it up sooner or later. Just not right away.

correction, you dont hafta bring it up at all. its their opinion what cheating lying, stealing politition they want screwing them around. You dont try to correct their views, just try to respect their opinions, or try to at least. Let me put it this way...Hitler thought that his political views were right, do you agree with him? if you voted for bush...you probably do (sorry if i make the assumption your american...but most americans talk out their "backsides" quite like that. :D . people who vote for the green party want to save the earth, people who vote republican want to steal other nations oil, people who vote democrat...well...they vote democrat
Cuneo Island
10-05-2004, 01:46
you can't correct me on that because it is an opinion. I need my girl to share the same political views. Other people don't, and that's fine by me.
Free Soviets
10-05-2004, 01:57
correction, you dont hafta bring it up at all. its their opinion what cheating lying, stealing politition they want screwing them around.

political views are a bit more than just which party you vote for...
Shroomton
10-05-2004, 02:00
so you say its your opinion to try to correct other peoples views to match your own? there is no real advantage to that, they feel the way they do for a reason
Cuneo Island
10-05-2004, 02:01
No I don't try to correct people's views to be my own if I date them. I simply married a girl with my views.
Shroomton
10-05-2004, 02:02
correction, you dont hafta bring it up at all. its their opinion what cheating lying, stealing politition they want screwing them around.

political views are a bit more than just which party you vote for...

i agree 100%, but i was just using it as an example my friend...i guess i should of stated that :wink:
Roania
10-05-2004, 02:06
I've had two. One for almost two years, who broke up with me on this Valentine's Day, and my current one. It's quality, not quantity. 8)
Shroomton
10-05-2004, 02:07
No I don't try to correct people's views to be my own if I date them. I simply married a girl with my views.
good call...respect points +1
Cuneo Island
10-05-2004, 02:09
No I don't try to correct people's views to be my own if I date them. I simply married a girl with my views.
good call...respect points +1

And same to you. Glad we settled that. Some people would go on for hours even when I explained myself.
Shroomton
10-05-2004, 02:11
then thank god im canadian :wink: ha! take that you american pig dogs!...please dont nuke me....ive wasted my life :cry:
Cuneo Island
10-05-2004, 02:15
I live in America, but I hate it. Unless Kerry wins the election.
Zyzyx Road
10-05-2004, 02:17
I'm 17 years old and I've never had a girlfriend. Isn't that terrible? I only have one more year in high school.


Dont worry, going out with people is overrated.
Shroomton
10-05-2004, 03:10
I'm 17 years old and I've never had a girlfriend. Isn't that terrible? I only have one more year in high school.


Dont worry, going out with people is overrated.

guess whos obviously a virgin...heh, what are you going to add next? sex is overrated? bwaaahahaha
Galliam
10-05-2004, 03:36
I too am 17 and have had two girlfriends... if you could call them that.

Numba 1. I was young and foolish. One girl was in my grade and liked me so we went out once. The next day apperantly I was her boyfriend. Wierd how women work. After taht I hadn't seen her until this year in school. I wondered where she went but I don't really care.

Numba 2. I was a little bit older and the relationship was built under lies. I liked her... Until I found out she was 20 and engaged. Wierd. (I was 15)

Anyway, Don't sweat it. Dating really isn't all that it's cracked up to be. I hated what little experience I have had and can only hope that all girls aren't like what I have known. Good bye.
The Sadistic Skinhead
10-05-2004, 03:44
your not missing out on much dude its all an emotional minefield
Galliam
10-05-2004, 03:51
your not missing out on much dude its all an emotional minefield

I hear that.
Walshen
10-05-2004, 04:00
how many girls have you asked out?

None, I don't know how to.



well, it's your own fault then, if you want a girlfriend go out and get one, it's the guy's job to ask the girl out, not the other way round! just start a conversation with a girl you like, once you get talking, i'm sure you'll find it easier to ask her out, i don't really know though, i've never had to ask a guy out

why is it the guys job thats total bollox im 16 and havent had any serious relationships, and to be honest i dont feel im missing out on much, and being at college is hard enough without having to worry about a girl at the moment although i do got a crush :-p
United Sovereignties
10-05-2004, 04:08
just so you don't feel bad, i'm 16 and the shrink-wrap is still on my penis, and i've never had a GF either
Cuneo Island
10-05-2004, 04:11
Alright I"m back to counsel anyone.
Austar Union
10-05-2004, 04:27
Hey bud,

I hear your call man. I am 16, turning 17 on May 17 and like you, I was worried that I would never find anybody.

Then I just figured one day, that god wouldnt let me down, and that I would let him make things work out. So in effect, I stopped looking for a girlfriend, and simply became friends with girls, rather than always wondering whats under their clothes.

So then, i was in a situation where I am in contact with a lot of girls as just my mates. Maybe things would turn out with one of them, maybe it would be somebody else. I didnt know, and I didnt care, because whoever God had chosen for me, would be perfect anyway.

Then I met this really great girl. Now, I have a habit of flirting, which I dont mind by the way. At first, we were just being friends and stuff, and you know, instead of wondering what shed be like as my girlfriend, I just respected her for the person she was, and I was comfortable to be my own silly self.

And you know, I liked her so much as a friend, that I began to like her a bit more than that. Just last week, I found out that she likes me back, and has for a bit. :)

The point of the story is:

Dont go out looking for a girlfriend, because if thats what you want, then you'll never get it. What you should be looking for is a friendship, where you can grow closer in relationship. Like a girl for who they are, and not what underwear they might be wearing. Girls want respect, they want to be accepted as individuals, so treat them like that, which should only come natural anyway ;)

Dont worry buddy, you'll find a great girl, just as long as you dont go all freaky and peverted ;)
Austar Union
10-05-2004, 04:28
Hey bud,

I hear your call man. I am 16, turning 17 on May 17 and like you, I was worried that I would never find anybody.

Then I just figured one day, that god wouldnt let me down, and that I would let him make things work out. So in effect, I stopped looking for a girlfriend, and simply became friends with girls, rather than always wondering whats under their clothes.

So then, i was in a situation where I am in contact with a lot of girls as just my mates. Maybe things would turn out with one of them, maybe it would be somebody else. I didnt know, and I didnt care, because whoever God had chosen for me, would be perfect anyway.

Then I met this really great girl. Now, I have a habit of flirting, which I dont mind by the way. At first, we were just being friends and stuff, and you know, instead of wondering what shed be like as my girlfriend, I just respected her for the person she was, and I was comfortable to be my own silly self.

And you know, I liked her so much as a friend, that I began to like her a bit more than that. Just last week, I found out that she likes me back, and has for a bit. :)

The point of the story is:

Dont go out looking for a girlfriend, because if thats what you want, then you'll never get it. What you should be looking for is a friendship, where you can grow closer in relationship. Like a girl for who they are, and not what underwear they might be wearing. Girls want respect, they want to be accepted as individuals, so treat them like that, which should only come natural anyway ;)

Dont worry buddy, you'll find a great girl, just as long as you dont go all freaky and peverted ;)
Gaeltach
10-05-2004, 04:46
ask through a friend. That's always easier.

Nonono, this is a bad idea, especially at your age. Trust me. Very tacky. We're impressed when you at least pretend you have the courage to do it yourself. :wink:
Cuneo Island
10-05-2004, 04:57
Yes I thought that was true. And now we have the confirmation from a girl. Asking through a friend demonstrates insecurity. For girls it can just be a game. You gotta just get the balls to go and ask her. If you get shot down go on with life. I got shot down and I went back to my high school reunion and the girl wished she had been nicer. One day people will realize who each other really are and that they shouldn't have acted how they did. Or maybe she'll like you and not have to feel bad later.
Argyres
10-05-2004, 05:19
I've had two. One for almost two years, who broke up with me on this Valentine's Day, and my current one. It's quality, not quantity. 8)

Good point, and one that is very true. I wouldn't trade the 18 months with my current girlfriend for 1 month with 18 girls, or any other way you can break it down.

As for shyness...I was shy in high school too..the prototypical 'smart nice guy' that girls wanted to be friends with but not date. I sometimes had to make an effort to be a little more outgoing, but I found that helped a great deal to make people realize I wasn't as quiet as they thought.

All in all, it's really not as big a deal as it might seem...give it some time and you'll find that to be true I imagine.
Kernlandia
10-05-2004, 05:31
ask through a friend. That's always easier.

if you want the girl to think you're a lameass pussy then do that.
Colodia
10-05-2004, 05:32
ask through a friend. That's always easier.

if you want the girl to think you're a lameass pussy then do that.

Girl2: Boy1 wants to know if you like him, Girl1
Girl1: I don't now!
Kernlandia
10-05-2004, 05:33
ask through a friend. That's always easier.

if you want the girl to think you're a lameass pussy then do that.

Girl2: Boy1 wants to know if you like him, Girl1
Girl1: I don't now!

exactly. you got to have some backbone.
Gaeltach
10-05-2004, 05:33
More or less spot on.
Rosarita
10-05-2004, 05:33
ask through a friend. That's always easier.

if you want the girl to think you're a lameass pussy then do that. ya. it's kind of flattering, but not to be taken as seriously.
and it looks like you have about as much spine as a jellyfish.
Kernlandia
10-05-2004, 05:34
ask through a friend. That's always easier.

if you want the girl to think you're a lameass pussy then do that. ya. it's kind of flattering, but not to be taken as seriously.
and it looks like you have about as much spine as a jellyfish.

the spineless wonder! he walks! he talks! but...he's retarded!
Rosarita
10-05-2004, 05:36
the spineless wonder! he walks! he talks! but...he's retarded! and stupid and dumb and stupid.
and couldn't win the special olympics, let alone a girl's heart.
Kernlandia
10-05-2004, 05:37
i kind of want to compete in the special olympics sometime, but i'm afraid i'd be beaten.
Austar Union
10-05-2004, 05:49
Ya, it is HIGHLY important to ask a girl out yourself.

I dont even consider girls if they dont have the confidence to ask me out themselves. ;)
Callisdrun
10-05-2004, 05:51
I'm 17 years old and I've never had a girlfriend. Isn't that terrible? I only have one more year in high school.



Join the club, I'm in exactly the same situation.
Gaeltach
10-05-2004, 05:52
i kind of want to compete in the special olympics sometime, but i'm afraid i'd be beaten.

Haha...I'm gonna start calling you Cartman.
Ascensia
10-05-2004, 06:08
I'm 19 with a cultural major in college and i've never had a girlfriend. Beat that. Cultured guys are supposed to be beating women off with a stick.
10-05-2004, 06:11
I didn't have a girlfriend until about a week before I graduated high school. It's not that terrible a thing.

The way I see it, most relationships in high school end poorly, people are still too naive.

They're a waste of emotional energy, I say just screw around as much as you can.
Philopolis
10-05-2004, 06:13
well, i'm 16 and never had a girlfriend either. apart from a puppy love crush I had with a girl when I was like 7. but girls today seem so superficial (as well as boys, 'cept me of course :) )
Austar Union
10-05-2004, 06:20
Cultured guys are supposed to be beating women off with a stick.

LOL, well at least I can say that it is true when dealing with outgoing people :D :D :D

Hey, I dont mind too much!
QahJoh
10-05-2004, 10:51
I'm 19 with a cultural major in college and i've never had a girlfriend. Beat that. Cultured guys are supposed to be beating women off with a stick.

Exactly what is a "cultural major"?
Utopio
10-05-2004, 11:15
I'm 17 years old and I've never had a girlfriend. Isn't that terrible?

Nope. Unless you feel the need to prove something by having a girlfriend - which is ridiculous. You shouldn't go out with someone just because you haven't already done so, and you certainly shouldn't feel as if you must have had a girlfriend by the end of high school. If you find a girl who likes the real you, and you feel you would like to be closer to her then simply ask her out. Don't get a friend to do it - you should be able to talk to someone you like.
Aldazar
10-05-2004, 12:32
ask through a friend. That's always easier.

might be easier but it means you still have to grow a pair!
Just ask some chick out for a coffee man, it's not that hard.

17 is a bit old to never have been out on a date with someone or to have a gf.
still tho, different strokes for different folks and if you don't go out with a gilr till your 35, it's not gonna make you any less of a man.
I had my first gf when i was 15, am 21 now, many gilrs later!, im goin out with a real cracker
Zyzyx Road
11-05-2004, 00:09
I'm 17 years old and I've never had a girlfriend. Isn't that terrible? I only have one more year in high school.


Dont worry, going out with people is overrated.

guess whos obviously a virgin...heh, what are you going to add next? sex is overrated? bwaaahahaha

good one, you are hardcore.
Japaica
11-05-2004, 00:26
I'm 17 years old and I've never had a girlfriend. Isn't that terrible? I only have one more year in high school.


Dont worry, going out with people is overrated.

guess whos obviously a virgin...heh, what are you going to add next? sex is overrated? bwaaahahaha

good one, you are hardcore.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
The MU Continent
11-05-2004, 00:43
u no
i no a girl that layed a guy when she wuz 13...........

buts thats besides the point
ask whoever u like out


i mean wuts the worst that can happen .. :tantrum: ..rejetion

come on its not like u will get tarred and feathered for the entire high school to ridicule :lol: :lol: :lol:


go for it cuz if u dont then u cant complain and then we can laugh at u
:lol: :lol: :lol:
QahJoh
11-05-2004, 00:49
17 is a bit old to never have been out on a date with someone or to have a gf.

Everything's relative. In some countries, most people are married by the time they're 17. Like you said, different strokes...
The Global Market
11-05-2004, 00:56
how many girls have you asked out?

None, I don't know how to.

"Do you want to go to [insert activity here] with me?"

Geez, Letila, you figure with all that communal anarchist living you'd be more comfortable around other people.
The Global Market
11-05-2004, 00:56
how many girls have you asked out?

None, I don't know how to.

"Do you want to go to [insert activity here] with me?"

Geez, Letila, you figure with all that communal anarchist living you'd be more comfortable around other people.
The Advanced Mollusks
11-05-2004, 01:13
The Advanced Mollusks
11-05-2004, 01:15
it's the guy's job to ask the girl out, not the other way round!

I find that incredibly sexist.

Anywho, I am also 17. Many... actually, MOST of my friends are girls. But the key word there is friends. Not as in "girlfriend," someone you date, but friends, like people you chat with when you're bored and hang out with at school and so on. I must say I don't understand the whole "talk to a girl you like and ask her out" idea. How do you know you like someone UNTIL you talk to them? Until you talk to them often and a lot? And shouldn't asking someone out come a bit later, when you figure out that you don't just like them, but also like them romantically? I mean, shouldn't friendship come first, and dating and so on second?

I think you should stop looking at girls as potential dates and start looking at them as just people. Try talking to girls in general -- not with the aim of asking one of them out, I mean just talk to them the way you talk to guys. Chat with them in boring times during class. Then maybe you'll make new friends. And until you're friends with a girl, I really don't understand how you'll know whether you want to go on a date with her or not. If you "like" or dislike someone merely based on their looks, and if the only reason you want to talk to them is to confirm that like, and then to ask them out, then you're in for a very shallow and brief relationship. I don't have a girlfriend now, but I have friends who are girls, and if I ever become romantically attracted to anyone, it'll probably be a friend -- someone I already know, and already like, and already spend time with.
New Genoa
11-05-2004, 01:26
meh, fuck girls (pun intended)

I wouldnt want to date anyone in my school that is... too concerned with looks and OMG j00 r hot im in love!!1
The Global Market
11-05-2004, 01:42
As for asking, I don't see it as male/female so much as a power relationship. Whoever has more power (in high school and college this TENDS TO, but does NOT ALWAYS mean seniority) should ask the lower-power person. Asking seems least awkward that way, and rejection is less likely, though more embarrasing if it actually happens hah.
Xenophobialand
11-05-2004, 03:00
I'm 19 with a cultural major in college and i've never had a girlfriend. Beat that. Cultured guys are supposed to be beating women off with a stick.

I'll see your 19-year-old-cultural-studies-major and raise you 21-year-old-philosophy/poly sci-double-major.

Letila, I can't really tell you anything for sure, aside from two things. First of all, rejection is a god-awful life experience, especially if its done cruelly. I can remember being told by the girl I asked out to senior prom never to speak to her again (actually, it was more being told by my best friend whose little sister was her best friend), and it was one of the most heartrending experiences of my life. Coming from someone whose seen both of his parents go through cancer, that's saying something.

The other truth, however, is that giving up on the idea that you can be loved and thought special, or that someone might want to spend time with you in a romantic capacity, is an even worse experience. It might not be as rip-your-heart-through-your-ribcage excruciating, but it is a crippling pain, and one that never ever goes away. So on balance, even the worst rejection is still a better life than one in which the attempt is not even made.

Now, that being said, I have been able to deduce some things in my life that might come in useful. A how-to manual of sorts, if you will that I've worked out a priori. It might not be completely correct, but I think the gist of it will get you where you want to go.

Once the fact that attempts should be made has been established, the next step is first of all to try to envision the kind of woman you like. No, I don't mean bootylicious, as you frequently mention. I mean, what kind of things do you admire in a person. Do you like wild extroversion, or do you like a more contemplative, introspective type? Do you like independence, or are you willing to trade off for someone who is less likely to keep you worrying that you they are straying, but at the same time will likely follow you around like a puppy dog? Note that in many cases, this might involve a tradeoff between desirable qualities. It is part of the procedure to choose between them.

Now that you've established the kind of person you want to attract, consider the next step: who do you know whom best fits that category? Now mind you, almost no woman will ever meet your description perfectly, and you're just going to have to accept that, unless you've found a way to build and program your own personal one. The question is, who do you know that fits that description well enough that you're willing to live with whatever flaws they have?

After identifying that person/persons, the next step is to ask yourself: what would a woman like that want in a man. Now yes, I know the ideas "Big wallet" and "Big Hmm-Hmm" spring to mind, but dismiss them as irrelevant. Those are in many ways just myths, because women are often willing to overlook such inadequacies if they can build up a repore with the person that allows them to do so (plus, it doesn't hurt to remember that you really can't do anything about either of those two things anyway). So the question is: what kind of qualities make you the kind of person whom she'll be willing to go out with even if one or more traits are somewhat lacking.

Generally speaking, women talk consistently about a couple of different things as being universally appealing: humor, integrity, kindness, intelligence, and confidence. Now I realize that this might seem a bit ridiculous at face value, because if universalized it would mean Robin Williams is the sexiest man on the planet instead of someone like Brad Pitt or George Clooney. Ignore that, because those are ideals for women, and not what they actually expect to have. Better yet, remember it, but only in so far as you can emulate what they really like about people like George or Brad: while it is their looks that got women and gay men interested, it was their engaging and confident manner that kept them interested. So it stands to reason that your best bet would be to, even though women aren't always going to look for it, develop those kind of traits. Doing some working out wouldn't hurt much either.

Once you've managed to cultivate the virtues that women look for, your next step is simple: just be your better self and not worry about it. Women will notice those changes, believe me. Gradually, once you've managed to internalize those values, women will tend to come around on their own and try and subtly indicate their interest. Someone likes to talk to you often? Maybe she's trying to send you a message. Someone gets flushed when you ask her a question? Maybe she has a secret crush.

If you see signs of interest, go up and casually flirt and engage with her. Don't look at her chest, but try and engage her mind. The sexiest thing you can do to a woman in the opening moments is to talk to her and care about what she has to say (this will be easier if this is in context of a class or a social club, as ready-made discussion materials will be available). Another kicker is to maintain eye contact. Men are bad at this because we tend to instinctivelly take eye contact as a deliberate provocation (try it sometime, and watch the other guy get more and more agitated), but women love it when you keep focusing directly on her. Make her look away, and only then look down so that she can look back at you.

Take things slowly. The objective here is ideally not to get laid. If you're doing that, you're just setting yourself up for trouble down the road, and besides, if you'd internalized those values like I told you, it wouldn't even be a consideration. Rather, the objective is to go for something greater: owning her mind and soul, and you do that through not going through the motions and using a healthy dose of Rohypnol, but through making her think that are all that and a bag of chips. You only win this game if you make her not only give her love, but want to do it at the same time. Sex in this game is just a byproduct (and in actuality, it is a far better byproduct than if you'd gone through the cheap hookup route, or so I'm told and so I believe).

Now, I spoke above of ownership and winning games, which should send warning bells flaring in the mind of any integrous person. This is not necessarily the case of dominance, however, because the final step is to equalize the bargain: in exchange for her heart, you have to be willing to give her yours as well. If you're doing this just for the sex and not for the commitment, then you've done nothing more than use the best means for the worst ends, a hallmark of a wholly cruel and vindicative person, and not one that you should ever hope to aspire to. This isn't something you should just do on the third date, either, but should be something gradually told and demonstrated: holding her close during the movies, giving her your jacket when its cold, cuddling her when she's nervous, comforting her when she's depressed. Ideally, its capped off by telling her you love her, after having demonstrated it again and again through a thousand thoughtful gestures.

This won't guarantee the success of any relationship, as there might be something wrong with her, she might not be ready, she might not be ready for you, you might not be fully ready to commit, whatever. It will however, in my experience, make sure that whatever relationship does develop is one where the proverbial juice far outweighs the squeeze.

On a side note, you might be wondering why I've never been in a relationship if I know the secret to winning women. The answer is simple: I haven't been able to find someone who met my criterion who also wanted me. Sometimes that just happens that way. But I have faith, and more importantly, I'm willing to wait for the right one, as opposed to degrading myself by taking the low road. As someone who hopes to be integrous one day, that is something I will not allow of myself.
Cremerica
11-05-2004, 03:01
who cares?
Galliam
11-05-2004, 03:33
I care. Girls are cool...
Ashmoria
11-05-2004, 04:19
excellent, thoughtful post, xeno

ya know, ive been reading this thread for days and missed that it was started by letila

do you really like girls with big butts?

guys who are confident enough in themselves to realize that they have preferences outside of society's norms are very sexy.

most 17 year olds ideas of desireability are limited to what is offered on tv, movies and magazines.

to know what you really like puts you way ahead of the game.

now all you have to do is convince a girl with a big butt that she really IS sexy. girls outside society's norm tend to be insecure about themselves.

good luck
Galliam
11-05-2004, 04:24
Yeah, I hate long posts. I didn't read it so here.

I like girls.
I'm 17.
It's not about looks or what is socially acceptable.
I like peoples values and unfortunately not many people hold the same ones as me, thats why I'm going to a christian college. Better chances to meet someone I can truly care about.
Ashmoria
11-05-2004, 04:27
if you share the same values, you have a much better chance of it lasting.
Kanabia
11-05-2004, 04:30
Hey, I'm 17 and never had a girlfriend either. See, I have this problem. Whenever I ask a girl out, she turns nasty for some reason and says things behind my back, which get back to me and then cause me to be nasty in return. Its a real problem and discourages me from bothering at all. (And no, I am tactful and I don't do the "fancy a shag" routine :roll:) Maybe I go for the wrong types of girls. But why would I ask out ones i'm not attracted to?

Women are evil. Oh, sure they pretend that men are the problem, but guess what? They dominate us through lust. lol :lol:

Well whatever the reason is, I just don't bother anymore. I've resigned myself to the point where I don't care.

Am I a loser? Yes. Do I care? HELL NO!

'Cause I know that one day, they'll come crying back to me and i'll have the pleasure in telling them to get bent.

Well, maybe not, but its a pretty cool fantasy anyway. :lol:
Xenophobialand
11-05-2004, 04:31
excellent, thoughtful post, xeno


Thankee, stranger. :wink:
Galliam
11-05-2004, 04:32
On the other hand, Looks have to have some factor, because why would I date someone I'm not at all attracted too. I think in choosing who to go with it is important but not critical. Physical attraction will come if it is love. But hey...
Ashmoria
11-05-2004, 04:35
kanabia, kanabia, kanabia

ohhhh yeah there are evil women in the world
SO STOP DATING THEM
be a little more selective in who you ask out for gods sake.
--Happiness--
11-05-2004, 04:40
hey, I'm a year younger & never dated a girl ;)

I seem to only be able to be friends with them, thats it(that does not mean I try to go out with them & end up just being friends) ;)
Kanabia
11-05-2004, 04:43
kanabia, kanabia, kanabia

ohhhh yeah there are evil women in the world
SO STOP DATING THEM
be a little more selective in who you ask out for gods sake.

They were nice until I asked them out. Then the bitch inside came out. That was my point.

Oh, and trust me, I'm very selective. Thats probably half the problem.
Zaurus
11-05-2004, 06:31
Once again, you are not alone, as I will soon be turning 17, and also have never been in such a relationship, nor even attempted to engage one. The reason for me is not so much that I'm too dorky to get a date or anything like that, I'm sure I can think of a few girls who would go to a dance with me if I asked. Anyway, the reason for me is that in my mind, it's a way bigger deal than with other people. I'm not saying they're wrong or I'm right about people who enjoy "casual dating" but it just don't do it for me and lots of other people I know. Also, I often find myself thinking the same thought that started this thread. Just going, "How pathetic am I that I've never even been on a date?" I hate when I think that because it's a dumb scale to judge yourself on. It's shallow and self-destructive, and just plain stupid. Think about how many high school relationships last. Is it really worth beating yourself up over if you don't have one?
Lithuanighanistania
11-05-2004, 06:35
Is it strange that a topic about helping someone get a girlfriend has a lot more hits than one about words that rhyme with "orange"? Because I'd like to hope that finding words that rhyme with "orange" would benefit all of society.
New Fuglies
11-05-2004, 06:43
I'm 17 years old and I've never had a girlfriend. Isn't that terrible? I only have one more year in high school.

I'mm 36 and I haven't had a girlfriend since I was 17. :wink:
Magnus Valerius
11-05-2004, 06:53
I'm 17 too, and I haven't had a girlfriend. You're not alone.

However, you must not be so selective in your women and you must get to know them first. My case would be probably my lack of resolve, shyness, and the fact that many girls I like are taken, but hey, there's college ahead, in which you'll get to meet many new people and hopefully some women whom might like to know you.
Ascensia
11-05-2004, 06:59
I'm 19 with a cultural major in college and i've never had a girlfriend. Beat that. Cultured guys are supposed to be beating women off with a stick.

I'll see your 19-year-old-cultural-studies-major and raise you 21-year-old-philosophy/poly sci-double-major.
I'll see your double major and raise you membership in the Drama club, after school tutoring, and poetry/song writing!
Ascensia
11-05-2004, 07:01
I'm 19 with a cultural major in college and i've never had a girlfriend. Beat that. Cultured guys are supposed to be beating women off with a stick.

Exactly what is a "cultural major"?
Any major that gives you ammunition for discussions in music, art, philosophy and history.
Jakkeslavia
11-05-2004, 07:26
Has anyone of you ever been hit on by a girl? I'w been twice, and now i know why it usually is the man who has to do the first move.

But hey don't worry, you have only lived about a 1/5 of your life. I'm 18 and I havn't had a girlfriend in 3 years.
QahJoh
11-05-2004, 08:31
I'm 19 with a cultural major in college and i've never had a girlfriend. Beat that. Cultured guys are supposed to be beating women off with a stick.

Exactly what is a "cultural major"?
Any major that gives you ammunition for discussions in music, art, philosophy and history.

In short, anything that's not math or science? Would English count? What about Anthropology?

(Just trying to see what my options are if I decide to go the "cultural" route. :wink: )
Bottle
11-05-2004, 14:44
Has anyone of you ever been hit on by a girl? I'w been twice, and now i know why it usually is the man who has to do the first move.


i do my part! i'm a chick, and i hit on anybody i am attracted to. i figure the worst that could happen is they aren't interested, and even then i will have brightened their day by making them feel hot.
Reynes
11-05-2004, 15:32
I'm 18. Ditto.
Xenophobialand
12-05-2004, 04:38
Has anyone of you ever been hit on by a girl? I'w been twice, and now i know why it usually is the man who has to do the first move.


i do my part! i'm a chick, and i hit on anybody i am attracted to. i figure the worst that could happen is they aren't interested, and even then i will have brightened their day by making them feel hot.

How can you tell when you're being hit on. Women are usually way too subtle about those things. Well, either that or I'm being oblivious. . .
One of Jupiters Moons
12-05-2004, 04:46
how many girls have you asked out?

None, I don't know how to.
if you ask and they say no, you are the same age wthout a girlfriend, and you shouldnt be sad cause its the same as before
Zaurus
13-05-2004, 06:13
Is it strange that a topic about helping someone get a girlfriend has a lot more hits than one about words that rhyme with "orange"? Because I'd like to hope that finding words that rhyme with "orange" would benefit all of society.

I have an orange.
I have a door-hinge.
Clinton had a whore-binge.
and least of all but still some is "foreigns"
Whittier
13-05-2004, 06:49
I'm 17 years old and I've never had a girlfriend. Isn't that terrible? I only have one more year in high school.

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"But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality."
Free your mind! (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html)
I like big butts!

http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/eddy_the_great/steatopygia.jpg
That ain't shit. Try being 30 and never having one.
Lindim
13-05-2004, 06:53
Often guys are just too shy or nervous! Just relax, we girls AREN'T the goddesses we hold ourself up to be... well, just a bit.

Seriously, guys just need to go Nike:

JUST DO IT!
Jakkeslavia
15-05-2004, 17:55
i do my part! i'm a chick, and i hit on anybody i am attracted to. i figure the worst that could happen is they aren't interested, and even then i will have brightened their day by making them feel hot.
On the other hand what would be the worst possilbe scenario for us guys...
Well the girl allready has a boyfriend, who is least to say not too happy about you talking to the girl.
Blue Nations
16-05-2004, 03:44
I'm 17 years old and I've never had a girlfriend. Isn't that terrible? I only have one more year in high school.



Why is this so terrible? :?

Personally, I don't see the big deal, especially with you being so young... It may be best for you to just focus on your education and worry about that other stuff later. :wink:
Spoffin
16-05-2004, 03:45
I'm 17 years old and I've never had a girlfriend. Isn't that terrible? I only have one more year in high school.



Why is this so terrible? :?

Personally, I don't see the big deal, especially with you being so young... It may be best for you to just focus on your education and worry about that other stuff later. :wink:Carpe diem.
16-05-2004, 06:37
Don't worry about it, Letila. Just resolve to avoid your shyness. Every time you feel like pussying out of doing something that you really want to do, ignore the voice that tells you "Stop!", and do it. I mean within reason, of course. Chances are that you're likely more afraid of being ridiculed/talked about than you are of being rejected. At least, that was my primary fear when going for girls when I was in high school.
Whatever though, if you make a gradual effort to put your shyness into abeyance, you'll be fine.

Often guys are just too shy or nervous! Just relax, we girls AREN'T the goddesses we hold ourself up to be... well, just a bit.

Seriously, guys just need to go Nike:

JUST DO IT!
You're absolutely right, I still have trouble with that, but I've gotten more ballsy as of late. Hopefully the same will happen for Letila.
Mr9inch american
16-05-2004, 06:39
Ich bin 15, aber ich habe eine Freundin, die traurig ist zu sagen, aber nver küßte ein Mädchen vorher :( 8)
Mr9inch american
16-05-2004, 06:39
Ich bin 15, aber ich habe eine Freundin, die traurig ist zu sagen, aber nver küßte ein Mädchen vorher :( 8)
Catholic Europe
17-05-2004, 11:16
I'm 17 years old and I've never had a girlfriend. Isn't that terrible? I only have one more year in high school.

Hmm, I always thought that you were older than 17....

How do you dress? Badly?
Dragons Bay
17-05-2004, 11:21
Maybe it's because you like big bums, Letila. :lol:


no. don't fret. i haven't had a proper girlfriend yet, and i'm nearly 17.
Kanabia
17-05-2004, 11:41
Maybe it's because you like big bums, Letila. :lol:

Well, desperately trying not to be crude here, but i would have thought that girls with big bums wouldnt be as hard to get as girls with small ones. :lol:
Dragons Bay
17-05-2004, 11:54
Maybe it's because you like big bums, Letila. :lol:

Well, desperately trying not to be crude here, but i would have thought that girls with big bums wouldnt be as hard to get as girls with small ones. :lol:

while i do agree most American girls (what? even people in general) have big bums, most won't like to be loved because of that.
17-05-2004, 12:00
www.imaginarygirlfriends.com
Kanabia
17-05-2004, 12:01
Maybe it's because you like big bums, Letila. :lol:

Well, desperately trying not to be crude here, but i would have thought that girls with big bums wouldnt be as hard to get as girls with small ones. :lol:

while i do agree most American girls (what? even people in general) have big bums, most won't like to be loved because of that.

Ah, but if he doesn't tell them he likes big bums, he's on easy street because they'll think he's such a great guy for not being shallow about looks. lol :)
Dragons Bay
17-05-2004, 12:06
Maybe it's because you like big bums, Letila. :lol:

Well, desperately trying not to be crude here, but i would have thought that girls with big bums wouldnt be as hard to get as girls with small ones. :lol:

while i do agree most American girls (what? even people in general) have big bums, most won't like to be loved because of that.

Ah, but if he doesn't tell them he likes big bums, he's on easy street because they'll think he's such a great guy for not being shallow about looks. lol :)

It will all become apparent when Letila takes the girl to a dance, then feels her bum and mutters to himself, hm. her bum's not big enough. the girl would hear it, slap him, and storm away.

i'm totally joking, btw. :lol:
Kanabia
17-05-2004, 12:11
Maybe it's because you like big bums, Letila. :lol:

Well, desperately trying not to be crude here, but i would have thought that girls with big bums wouldnt be as hard to get as girls with small ones. :lol:

while i do agree most American girls (what? even people in general) have big bums, most won't like to be loved because of that.

Ah, but if he doesn't tell them he likes big bums, he's on easy street because they'll think he's such a great guy for not being shallow about looks. lol :)

It will all become apparent when Letila takes the girl to a dance, then feels her bum and mutters to himself, hm. her bum's not big enough. the girl would hear it, slap him, and storm away.

i'm totally joking, btw. :lol:

Hehehehe, I know :lol:
Notquiteaplace
17-05-2004, 14:47
hehe im 19 and ive had a couple of half arsed relationships. Nothing outlasting 24 hours because they sobered up/realised they werent obver their ex and messed me around for two weeks before saying they never liked me.

Im bitter scared and feel lonely when everyone else has a best friend or girlfriend that wants to see them more tha anyone else.

But it could be worse, i have cool friends and stuff, i just get the feeling my inexperience is a turn off. And that all the other guys are probably better looking and more intersting. Okay some advice, like yourslef because if you dont hwo can you chat a girl up with any conviction? I sure as hell cant! Girls like cocky nasty womanisers as they pick up the nimpression men are after one thing, so they must be dating the bad ones. Well eventually they find a good guy, but it takes while.

Advice, if you havent got a specific taste in music, listen to popular stuff AND NOT HEAVY METAL. that way you can go to normal clubs etc and not squirm in agony and wont be attracted to nice but messed up 'alternative' girls.

Thats what i have learnt.

Too late.
Blue Nations
18-05-2004, 06:25
I'm 17 years old and I've never had a girlfriend. Isn't that terrible? I only have one more year in high school.



Why is this so terrible? :?

Personally, I don't see the big deal, especially with you being so young... It may be best for you to just focus on your education and worry about that other stuff later. :wink:Carpe diem.


Says the grasshopper to the ant. Unfortunately, that philosophy didn't turn out so well for him when he was caught unprepared for the winter season...
Ascensia
18-05-2004, 06:34
I'm 19 with a cultural major in college and i've never had a girlfriend. Beat that. Cultured guys are supposed to be beating women off with a stick.

Exactly what is a "cultural major"?
Any major that gives you ammunition for discussions in music, art, philosophy and history.

In short, anything that's not math or science? Would English count? What about Anthropology?

(Just trying to see what my options are if I decide to go the "cultural" route. :wink: )
English no, English Literature or Literature yes, Creative writing yes. I'm not sure about Anthropology, it's a bit boring for most people... but archaeology has the whole adventurer appeal.
Free Soviets
18-05-2004, 06:49
I'm not sure about Anthropology, it's a bit boring for most people... but archaeology has the whole adventurer appeal.

but actual anthropology fieldwork is much more exciting than actual archaeology fieldwork. though knowing your shit about the findings of either of them can make you sound pretty cool.
Vitania
18-05-2004, 10:41
www.imaginarygirlfriends.com

That is just sad.
Conceptualists
18-05-2004, 11:15
www.imaginarygirlfriends.com

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee[size=1]eeeeee

OK there goes my faith in humanity.
Kanabia
18-05-2004, 16:14
www.imaginarygirlfriends.com

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee[size=1]eeeeee

OK there goes my faith in humanity.

LOL. And people actually pay for that.

I bet the "girls" are really guys.
Great Scotia
18-05-2004, 16:49
(yay - archaeology! :D )
If you want a girlfriend, though, go to university - it's just bursting with nubile young ladies!
Plus you get a degree and an extra three years of teenage kicks!

Mmm... archaeology degree... hmm... should...be...revising...
Freedom For Most
18-05-2004, 18:27
Be confident is probably a good piece of advice.

However, I go bright red anytime I get close to asking anyone out :? :oops:

Just be brave, and when you're speaking to a girl with view to asking her out, think to yourself 'whats the worst that could happen?' - so theres a chance she says no, but if your a cool, friendly fella, theres a larger chance that she'll say yes - take the chance.