NationStates Jolt Archive


The U.N and The Palestine Issue

09-05-2004, 17:14
I think I already know the Answer to this but since these Board have Simply DIED OFF in the past few weeks I will ask anyway.

Why cant the U.N Keep the peace in Palestine instead of the IDF occupying it? Could they? Should they?
Bonilika
09-05-2004, 17:23
I think the UN needs to focus on this issuse abit more. It seems to me that they just keep ignore it. Those Jews in Israel should face war crimes for what they done.
Zyzyx Road
09-05-2004, 17:26
its because people dont care about muslims. case in point, in the early 90s when bosnians being persecuted were referred to as muslims, the world didnt give two shits. but in the late 90s, when the kosovo muslims were referred to as kosovars the world was up in arms.
Bonilika
09-05-2004, 17:38
its because people dont care about muslims. case in point, in the early 90s when bosnians being persecuted were referred to as muslims, the world didnt give two shits. but in the late 90s, when the kosovo muslims were referred to as kosovars the world was up in arms.

I totally agree with you 100%. If the palestinians were not muslims, the UN would have delt with this years ago.
Spoffin
09-05-2004, 17:41
I think I already know the Answer to this but since these Board have Simply DIED OFF in the past few weeks I will ask anyway.

Why cant the U.N Keep the peace in Palestine instead of the IDF occupying it? Could they? Should they?Cos the USA is Israel's strongest ally, and has a veto on security council.
Bonilika
09-05-2004, 17:46
Israel is the jewish state and New york has more jews then Israel. Thats why America will agree with Israel, no matter vote. Both countries are controlled by jews. Israel is America's bitch. :lol:
09-05-2004, 18:08
Is it the Security Council or the general Assembly who decide wether or not to send in Peacekeepers. Isreal has been criticised often by the General Assembly. I dont think the U.S.A has a veto there, but they do in the security council. I guess thats where all the World affecting decisions are made.
Deeloleo
09-05-2004, 18:10
Why can't the UN keep peace in the Palestinian territories? Because the UN is a charity, nothing more. In any matter requiring more than charitable do0nations the UN is an impotent debate society.
Bonilika
09-05-2004, 18:33
If this didn't envolve Israel, America would jump feet first in with its army. Kill the jews, kill the problems i say. Wait, maybe thats abit extreme
Womblingdon
09-05-2004, 19:03
I think I already know the Answer to this but since these Board have Simply DIED OFF in the past few weeks I will ask anyway.

Why cant the U.N Keep the peace in Palestine instead of the IDF occupying it? Could they? Should they?
Riiiiiiiiight. UN Blue Helmets keeping peace in the territories. Are you kidding me? Look at Lebanon. What use is UNIFIL?
Bonilika
09-05-2004, 19:12
I've only seen UN troops in Africa, thats where they spend most of their time. Move in to palestine i say
The Great Leveller
09-05-2004, 19:14
Israel is the jewish state and New york has more jews then Israel. Thats why America will agree with Israel, no matter vote. Both countries are controlled by jews. Israel is America's bitch. :lol:

That's our title dammit :evil:
Bonilika
09-05-2004, 19:18
That's our title dammit


LOL
Bonilika
09-05-2004, 19:19
Israel is the jewish state and New york has more jews then Israel. Thats why America will agree with Israel, no matter vote. Both countries are controlled by jews. Israel is America's bitch. :lol:

That's our title dammit :evil:

LOL
well Israel is America's bitch in the middle east
Brzowiya
09-05-2004, 19:34
I think I already know the Answer to this but since these Board have Simply DIED OFF in the past few weeks I will ask anyway.

Why cant the U.N Keep the peace in Palestine instead of the IDF occupying it? Could they? Should they?

Simply because the U.S. would not dare allow them to. The other question are irrelivant right now, because they are unable to.

Israel is the jewish state and New york has more jews then Israel. Thats why America will agree with Israel, no matter vote. Both countries are controlled by jews. Israel is America's bitch. :lol:

Such words are foolish. If you had read the documentary record, you know that after Israel again clobbered Nasser after their brutal '67 War, they proved themselves as a strategic asset for the United States in the Middle East. And the U.S. of course was interested in controlling the resources of the Middle East, that's why they're opposed to Nationalists governments that respond to the needs of the people. Although this doesn't just apply to the Arab world, the CIA was responsible for overthrowing Mohammad Mossadegh of Iran. Israel is just the leader of the cops on the beat, the role has also been played by Turkey, Pakistan, Iran under the Shah, and others.
Bonilika
09-05-2004, 19:37
The palestine/Israel issuse will be resolved when both sides end up killing each other
Schrandtopia
09-05-2004, 19:47
I totally agree with you 100%. If the palestinians were not muslims, the UN would have delt with this years ago.

the people in southern sudan arn't muslims and the UN hasn't so much as looked at the issue
Schrandtopia
09-05-2004, 19:48
Israel is the jewish state and New york has more jews then Israel. Thats why America will agree with Israel, no matter vote. Both countries are controlled by jews. Israel is America's bitch. :lol:

yes, I'm sure that's the way it works...in crazy land...
Schrandtopia
09-05-2004, 19:49
Is it the Security Council or the general Assembly who decide wether or not to send in Peacekeepers. Isreal has been criticised often by the General Assembly. I dont think the U.S.A has a veto there, but they do in the security council. I guess thats where all the World affecting decisions are made.

I'm pretty sure it's the SC, and no country has a veto in the GA but the US, UK, france russia and china have vetos in the SC
Schrandtopia
09-05-2004, 19:50
If this didn't envolve Israel, America would jump feet first in with its army. Kill the jews, kill the problems i say.

I'm sure that would work, if we wanted an arab super throcracy to slowly take over the world
Schrandtopia
09-05-2004, 19:51
I've only seen UN troops in Africa, thats where they spend most of their time. Move in to palestine i say

and europe, asia, and ociania
Schrandtopia
09-05-2004, 19:52
well Israel is America's bitch in the middle east

or maybe we just hae a vested interest in seeing the middle east's only democracy and probuctive state not be decimated by islamo-facists
Schrandtopia
09-05-2004, 19:54
[quote="Brzowiya"]that's why they're opposed to Nationalists governments that respond to the needs of the people.quote]

nationalist governments that respond to the needs of their people, like Isreal?
QahJoh
09-05-2004, 19:56
I think the UN needs to focus on this issuse abit more. It seems to me that they just keep ignore it. Those Jews in Israel should face war crimes for what they done.

Which Jews?

Oh, "those" Jews. Thanks for being so specific. :roll:
Stephistan
09-05-2004, 20:25
I think I already know the Answer to this but since these Board have Simply DIED OFF in the past few weeks I will ask anyway.

Why cant the U.N Keep the peace in Palestine instead of the IDF occupying it? Could they? Should they?

The UN can't, because every time they try to do any thing the Americans VETO it.. and Israel has refused time and time again to allow UN inspectors in.
QahJoh
09-05-2004, 21:22
I think I already know the Answer to this but since these Board have Simply DIED OFF in the past few weeks I will ask anyway.

Why cant the U.N Keep the peace in Palestine instead of the IDF occupying it? Could they? Should they?

The UN can't, because every time they try to do any thing the Americans VETO it.. and Israel has refused time and time again to allow UN inspectors in.

Yeah, but there's more at play here than just "Israel stopping the UN from doing its job." Israel doesn't trust the UN, which it sees as being biased against it. (And it's really not very hard to see how they would get that impression.)

Why then would it allow them to come in and badmouth it?

It would certainly be nicer if Israel and the UN and the Palestinians all got along and trusted each other, etc... But they don't. So the UN "policing" Palestine is basically out of the question.
Stephistan
09-05-2004, 23:51
I think I already know the Answer to this but since these Board have Simply DIED OFF in the past few weeks I will ask anyway.

Why cant the U.N Keep the peace in Palestine instead of the IDF occupying it? Could they? Should they?

The UN can't, because every time they try to do any thing the Americans VETO it.. and Israel has refused time and time again to allow UN inspectors in.

Yeah, but there's more at play here than just "Israel stopping the UN from doing its job." Israel doesn't trust the UN, which it sees as being biased against it. (And it's really not very hard to see how they would get that impression.)

Why then would it allow them to come in and badmouth it?

It would certainly be nicer if Israel and the UN and the Palestinians all got along and trusted each other, etc... But they don't. So the UN "policing" Palestine is basically out of the question.

Israel has immunity from any accountability of their actions because of the Americans.. this is a fact that I have shown time and again on this forum. Why on earth would Israel want the UN in the country? I'm sure the fear is the truth might come out. Which would sicken the world.. It's not exactly like the Israeli's haven't committed war crimes just like Palestine. Only difference is the media only ever reports on it when it's the Palestinians doing it.
Schrandtopia
10-05-2004, 00:25
The UN can't, because every time they try to do any thing the Americans VETO it.. and Israel has refused time and time again to allow UN inspectors in.

Isreal refused to let arms inspectors into the negev desert of the grounds of a potental compromise of Isreal's self-defence

but never (to my knowledge) refused to let them into palestien
Schrandtopia
10-05-2004, 00:28
Israel has immunity from any accountability of their actions.

so does sudan, so does saudi arabia, so does iran, so does china, so does north korea.

this has more to do with the UN's incompetence and compleet refusal to use its own power than it does a pro-Isreal bias
QahJoh
10-05-2004, 02:45
Why on earth would Israel want the UN in the country? I'm sure the fear is the truth might come out.

What truth? Anyone that doesn't know that both sides are trying to fuck-ing kill each other is an idiot or has their head buried in the sand. Exactly what "new facts" do you think a UN report would uncover?

Which would sicken the world.

You already seem pretty sickened. So do a lot of other folks. Again, I ask, exactly what would the UN find that we don't already know?

It's not exactly like the Israeli's haven't committed war crimes just like Palestine. Only difference is the media only ever reports on it when it's the Palestinians doing it.

Bullshit. You can certainly argue that (depending on the source), the media has a certain BIAS when presenting news on Israeli actions, but to say that it doesn't report on it is nothing less than false.
Graustarke
10-05-2004, 05:20
Was not Israel created and supported by a UN mandate?
Were the Palestinians not moved out of the new Israel by UN mandate?
Did not the UN support the lack of a 'Palesinian Right to Return' ?

Now you are wondering why the UN has not stepped into the area??

beats me
Slap Happy Lunatics
10-05-2004, 07:25
Israel is the jewish state and New york has more jews then Israel. Thats why America will agree with Israel, no matter vote. Both countries are controlled by jews. Israel is America's bitch. :lol:

Uh, New York City has 8 million people in it. Jews are a decreasing minority. Let's give them about 1.5 million. There are what about 300 million people in the US? Jews tend to vote Democratic and liberal. Bush is a Republican conservative.

Your village called, they need you back.

:shock:
Slap Happy Lunatics
10-05-2004, 07:36
Israel has immunity from any accountability of their actions because of the Americans.. this is a fact that I have shown time and again on this forum. Why on earth would Israel want the UN in the country? I'm sure the fear is the truth might come out. Which would sicken the world.. It's not exactly like the Israeli's haven't committed war crimes just like Palestine. Only difference is the media only ever reports on it when it's the Palestinians doing it.

Does that include the vaunted BBC? Here is what really happens. The Palestinians blow up a bus killing civillians and children. They get on the news for it. Israel retaliates by killing some Palestinian terrorists. They get on the news for it.

Have innocents been killed by Israel? Yes. The difference is it is not intentional.

Why is that so hard to accept?

:shock:
Squi
10-05-2004, 08:15
I am trying to avoid long drawn out arguments but people should look up the historical UN involvement in the region before commenting. Look at the UN Sinai force first, and the UN peacekeeper activities in Lebanon and Beruit next. Look at these forces and the problems they had and one can get an idea of the difficulties UN forces in the region have.
Stephistan
10-05-2004, 11:24
Israel has immunity from any accountability of their actions because of the Americans.. this is a fact that I have shown time and again on this forum. Why on earth would Israel want the UN in the country? I'm sure the fear is the truth might come out. Which would sicken the world.. It's not exactly like the Israeli's haven't committed war crimes just like Palestine. Only difference is the media only ever reports on it when it's the Palestinians doing it.

Does that include the vaunted BBC? Here is what really happens. The Palestinians blow up a bus killing civillians and children. They get on the news for it. Israel retaliates by killing some Palestinian terrorists. They get on the news for it.

Have innocents been killed by Israel? Yes. The difference is it is not intentional.

Why is that so hard to accept?

:shock:

Because that's not the whole truth.. and UN vetoed resolutions by the Americans prove that.
Tyrendia
10-05-2004, 11:43
Was not Israel created and supported by a UN mandate?
Were the Palestinians not moved out of the new Israel by UN mandate?
Did not the UN support the lack of a 'Palesinian Right to Return' ?

Now you are wondering why the UN has not stepped into the area??

beats me




Your post is incorrect from it's first letter.
The UN did vote on Israel's issue, and did decide on making two nations for the two people. Then, Israel declared independence, in the teritory given to it by the UN. Israel was then attacked by Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, Egyapt and forces from almost all of the islamic factions in the region. When those attacked, the Palestinians living in Israel, were told by the ATTACKERS, to evacuate, and return when Israel is crushed. That did not happen. So they, who most of them were evacuated by their own will, now want to get back to Israel, with their uncles and cousins and grandmothers form third degree, so the Israel will have a jewish minority. That is the problam right now, Gaza is not.

As I wrote in my earlier post. You people, sitting in Europa, never knew danger, and are not neutral. You are hipocrit and corrupt, and don't have anything better to do than stick your nose in other people's matters. Seize that. For your opinions do not matter, nor are based upon facts or truly knowing the situation. You can argue about the bombing in spains. Why dont the UN enter into Catalunia or Checnia? Eh?


Oh, and Bonilika, you are a fool.
Hudecia
10-05-2004, 14:27
The UN can't be expected to do anything right. Somalia, Cyprus, Sinai, Lebanon, Rwanda, Cambodia, etc...

The Israelis have learned not to trust the UN peacekeeping forces. Last time the Arab states attacked Israel they (the Arab states) simply ordered the UN out of the 'buffer zones'. Israel was left thinking "Yeah, right, the UN was REAL (sarcastic) helpful."

The UN is not an unbiased body. Last time Israel tried to pass a resolution condemning attacks on Israeli children the Muslim states used their block to vote it down. Even though they had just passed an almost identical resolution condemning attacks on Palestinian children. (the Israelis took the Palestinian resolution and copied it word for word, changing only the word Palestinian to Israeli). See www.un.org

War crimes/ crimes against humanity are only commited by the Palestinian side in my opinion. Israelis target militant leaders and their weapons. Palestinians target civilians. Even though both sides end up killing civilians the Palestinians are the ones guilty of war crimes because it was intentional. Past attempts to say that Israeli troops commited crimes like these ended up being invalidated (take Jenin for example)

Clinton and Barak offered Arafat everything except the right to return... and Arafat rejected it. The problem for the failure of diplomacy lies in his lap and Hamas (which believes in a Palestinian and Israeli state living side by side... so that they can launch more attacks against Israel)
Bonilika
10-05-2004, 16:25
Jews are a decreasing minority. Let's give them about 1.5 million.


Most of the jews in America and the rest of the world tend to move to Israel because they think its their land. Why can't jews and muslims see that they worship the same God?. If they both realized this, the whole middle east problem will be solved.
So if Israel is made up of American jews, then the US is only going to do what they think is best for them.
Schrandtopia
10-05-2004, 20:23
Why can't jews and muslims see that they worship the same God?.

well...because they don't
Schrandtopia
10-05-2004, 20:24
Why can't jews and muslims see that they worship the same God?.

well...because they don't
Slap Happy Lunatics
10-05-2004, 23:54
Jews are a decreasing minority. Let's give them about 1.5 million.


Most of the jews in America and the rest of the world tend to move to Israel because they think its their land. Why can't jews and muslims see that they worship the same God?. If they both realized this, the whole middle east problem will be solved.
So if Israel is made up of American jews, then the US is only going to do what they think is best for them.TRA? Is that you?
Slap Happy Lunatics
11-05-2004, 00:27
Israel has immunity from any accountability of their actions because of the Americans.. this is a fact that I have shown time and again on this forum. Why on earth would Israel want the UN in the country? I'm sure the fear is the truth might come out. Which would sicken the world.. It's not exactly like the Israeli's haven't committed war crimes just like Palestine. Only difference is the media only ever reports on it when it's the Palestinians doing it.

Does that include the vaunted BBC? Here is what really happens. The Palestinians blow up a bus killing civillians and children. They get on the news for it. Israel retaliates by killing some Palestinian terrorists. They get on the news for it.

Have innocents been killed by Israel? Yes. The difference is it is not intentional.

Why is that so hard to accept?

:shock:

Because that's not the whole truth.. and UN vetoed resolutions by the Americans prove that.Which resolutions, authored by whom and what do they prove? Here is a list SC VETOES (http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/membship/veto/vetosubj.htm)

:shock:
QahJoh
11-05-2004, 00:43
Jews are a decreasing minority. Let's give them about 1.5 million.


Most of the jews in America and the rest of the world tend to move to Israel because they think its their land.

Please cite a source for that statement.

Why can't jews and muslims see that they worship the same God?. If they both realized this, the whole middle east problem will be solved.

That's a highly debateable. And indeed, many Jews and Muslims already believe they worship the same God.

So if Israel is made up of American jews, then the US is only going to do what they think is best for them.

What? Care to explain that one again? :?
Hudecia
11-05-2004, 18:57
Muslims claim that their god is the same as the Jews, however, they claim that theirs is a 'revision', like Christianity. All three religions... in principle believe in the same 'god'.

In reality all three have different dogmas with respect to what that god is like.
Stephistan
11-05-2004, 21:09
Israel has immunity from any accountability of their actions because of the Americans.. this is a fact that I have shown time and again on this forum. Why on earth would Israel want the UN in the country? I'm sure the fear is the truth might come out. Which would sicken the world.. It's not exactly like the Israeli's haven't committed war crimes just like Palestine. Only difference is the media only ever reports on it when it's the Palestinians doing it.

Does that include the vaunted BBC? Here is what really happens. The Palestinians blow up a bus killing civillians and children. They get on the news for it. Israel retaliates by killing some Palestinian terrorists. They get on the news for it.

Have innocents been killed by Israel? Yes. The difference is it is not intentional.

Why is that so hard to accept?

:shock:

Because that's not the whole truth.. and UN vetoed resolutions by the Americans prove that.Which resolutions, authored by whom and what do they prove? Here is a list SC VETOES (http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/membship/veto/vetosubj.htm)

:shock:

I've posted this before, but here, let me make it easier on you..

UN Security Council Resolutions on Israel since 1948


Res 101 (Nov 24, 53): Expressed 'strongest censure' of Israel for the first time because of its raid on Qibya.

Res 106 (Mar 29, 55): Condemned Israel for Ghazzah raid.

Res 111 (Jan 19, 56): Condemned Israel for raid on Syria that killed 56 people.

Res 127 (Jan 22, 58 ) : Recommended Israel to suspend its no-man's zone in Jerusalem.

Res 162 (Apr 11, 61) : Urged Israel to comply with UN decisions.

Res 171 (Apr 9, 62): Determined 'flagrant violation' by Israel in its attack on Syria.

Res 228 (Nov 25, 66): Censured Israel for its attack on Samu in Jordan.

Res 237 (June 14, 67): Urged Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees.

Res 248 (Mar 24, 68 ) : Condemned Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan.

Res 250 (Apr 27, 68 ) : Called on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem.

Res 251 (May 2, 68 ) : Deeply deplored Israel's military parade in Jerusalem and declared invalid Israel's acts to unify Jerusalem as its capital.

Res 256 (Aug 16, 68 ) : Condemned Israeli raids on Jordan as 'flagrant violation'.

Res 259 (Sep 27, 68 ) : Deplored Israel's refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation.

Res 262 (Dec 31, 68 ) : Condemned Israel's attack on Beirut airport destroying the entire fleet of Middle East Airlines.

Res 265 (Apr 1, 69): Condemned Israel for air attacks on Salt in Jordan.

Res 267 (July 3, 69): Censured Israel for administrative acts to change status of Jerusalem.

Res 270 (Aug. 26, 69): Condemned Israel for air attack on villages in southern Lebanon.

Res 271 (Sep 15, 69): Condemned Israel's failure to comply with UN resolutions on Jerusalem.

Res 279 (May 12, 70): Demanded withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon.

Res 280 (May 19, 70): Condemned Israeli attacks against Lebanon.

Res 285 (Sep 5, 70): Demanded immediate Israeli troop withdrawal from Lebanon.

Res 298 (Sep 25, 71): Deplored Israel's change of status of Jerusalem.

Res 313 (Aug 8, 72): Demanded Israel stop attacks against Lebanon.

Res 316 (June 26, 72): Condemned Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon.

Res 317 (July 21, 72): Deplored Israel's refusal to release Arabs abducted from Lebanon.

Res 332 (Apr 21, 73): Condemned Israel's repeated attacks against Lebanon.

Res 337 (Aug 15, 73): Condemned Israel for violating Lebanon's sovereignty.

Res 347 (Apr 24, 74): Condemned Israeli attacks on Lebanon.

Res 425 (Mar 19, 78 ) : Called on Israel to withdraw its forces unconditionally from Lebanon.

Res 427 (May 3, 78 ) : Called on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon.

Res 444 (Jan 19, 79): Deplored Israel's lack of cooperation with UN peace forces.

Res 446 (Mar 22, 79): Determined Israeli settlements as a 'serious obstruction' to peace, and called on Israel to abide by the Geneva Conventions.

Res 450 (June 14, 79): Called on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon.

Res 452 (July 20, 79): Called on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories.

Res 465 (Mar 1, 80): Deplored Israel's settlements and asked all member States not to assist Israel's settlement programme.

Res 467 (Apr 24, 80): Condemned Israel's military intervention in Lebanon.

Res 468 (May 8, 80): Called on Israel to rescind illegal expulsion of two Palestinian Mayors and a Judge, and to facilitate their return.

Res 469 (May 20, 80): Strongly deplored Israel's failure to observe the Council's order not to deport Palestinians.

Res 471 (June 5, 80): Expressed deep concern at Israel's failure to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention.

Res 476 (June 30, 80): Reiterated that Israel's claims to Jerusalem are 'null and void'.

Res 478 (Aug 20, 80): 'Censured in the strongest terms' Israel for its claim to Jerusalem in its 'basic law'.

Res 484 (Dec 19, 80): Declared it imperative Israel re-admit two Palestinian mayors.

Res 487 (June 19, 81): Strongly condemns Israel for its attack on Iraq's nuclear facility.

Res 497 (Dec 17, 81): Decided Israel's annexation of Syria's Golan Heights is 'null and void' and demanded that Israel rescind its decision forthwith.

Res 498 (Dec 18, 81): Called on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon.

Res 501 (Feb 25, 82): Called on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops.

Res 508 (June 6, 82): Demanded Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and un-conditionally from Lebanon.

Res 515 (July 29, 82): Demanded Israel lift its seige of Beirut and allow in food.

Res 517 (Aug 4, 82): Censured Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions and demanded Isreal withdraw its forces from Lebanon.

Res 518 (Aug 12, 82): Demanded Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon.

Res 520 (Sep 17, 82): Condemned Israel's attack into West Beirut.

Res 573 (Oct 4, 85): Condemned Israel vigorously for bombing Tunisia in attack on PLO Headquarters.

Res 587 (Sep 23, 86): Took note of previous calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon and urged all parties to withdraw.

Res 592 (Dec 8, 86): Strongly deplored the killing of Palestinian students at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops.

Res 605 (Dec 22, 87): Strongly deplored Israel's policies and practices denying human rights of Palestinians.

Res 607 (Jan 5, 88 ) : Called on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly requested it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention.

Res 608 (Jan 14, 88 ) : Deeply regreted that Israel had defied the UN and deported Palestinian civilians.

Res 636 (July 6, 89): Deeply regreted the Israeli deportation of Palestinians.

Res 641 (Aug 30, 89): Deplored Israel's continuous deportation of Palestinians.

Res 672 (Oct 12, 90): Condemned Israel for violence against Palestinians at Jerusalem's Haram Al-Sharif.

Res 673 (Oct 24, 90): Deplored Israel's refusal to cooperate with the UN.

Res 681 (Dec 20, 90): Deplored Israel's resumption of deportation of Palestinians.

Res 694 (May 24, 91): Deplored Israel's deportation of Palestinians and called on it to ensure their safe and immediate return.

Res 726 (Jan 1, 92): 'Strongly condemned' Israel's decision to resume deportation of Palestinians from 'Palestinian territories... including Jerusalem.'

Res 799 (Dec 19, 92): Deplored Israel's mass deportation of some 400 Palestinians and called for thir immediate return.




Vetoes cast by the United States to defend Israeli crimes:



Sep 10, 72: Condemned Israel's attacks on Southern Lebanon and Syria. Vote: 13 to 1 in favor with 1 abstention.

July 26, 73: Affirmed the rights of Palestinian people to self-determination, statehood and equal protections. Vote: 13 to 1 in favor with China absent.

Dec 8, 75: Condemned Israel's air strikes and attacks in southern Lebanon and its murder of innocent civilians. Vote: 13 to 1, with 1 abstention.

Jan 26, 76: Called for self-determination of Palestinian people. Vote: 9 to 1 with 3 abstentions.

Mar 25, 76: Deplored Israel's altering of the status of Jerusalem, which is recognised as an International city by most world nations and the United Nations. Vote 14 to 1.

June 29, 76: Affirmed the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people. Vote: 10 to 1 in favour with 4 abstentions.

Apr 30, 80: Endorsed self-determination for the Palestinian people. Vote: 10 to 1 in favour with 4 abstentions.

Jan 20, 82: Demanded Israel's withdrawal from the Golan Heights. Vote: 9 to 1 in favour with 4 abstentions.

Apr 2, 82: Condemned Israel's mistreatment of Palestinians in the occupied West Bank and Ghazzah Strip and its refusal to abide by the Geneva Convention protocols of civilised nations. Vote: 14 to 1.

Apr 20, 82: Condemned an Israeli soldier who shot 11 Muslim worshippers in the Haram Al-Sharif near Al Aqsa Mosque in the Old City of Jerusalem. Vote: 14 to 1.

June 8, 82: Urged sanctions against Israel if it did not withdraw from its invasion of Lebanon. Vote: 14 to 1.

June 26, 82: Urged sanctions against Israel if it did not end its invasion of Beirut, Lebanon and withdraw. Vote: 14 to 1.

Aug 8, 82: Urged cut-off of economic aid to Israel if it refuses to withdraw from its occupation of Lebanon. Vote: 11 to 1 with 3 abstentions.

Aug 2, 83: Condemned continued Israeli settlements in occupied Palestinian territories of the West Bank and Ghazzah Strip, denouncing them as an obstacle to peace. Vote 13 to 1 with 1 abstention.

Sep 6, 84: Deplored Israel's brutal massacre of Arabs in Lebanon and urged its withdrawal. Vote 14 to 1.

Mar 12, 85: Condemned Israeli brutality in southern Lebanon and denounced the Israeli 'Iron Fist' policy of repression. Vote: 11 to 1 with 3 abstentions. Sep 13, 85: Denounced Israel's violation of human rights in the occupied territories. Vote: 10 to 1 with 4 abstentions.

Jan 17, 86: Strongly deplored Israel's violence in southern Lebanon. Vote 11 to 1 with 3 abstentions.

Jan 30, 86: Deplored Israel's activities in occupied Arab East Jerusalem which threatened the sanctity of Muslim holy sites. Vote 13 to 1 with 1 abstention.

Feb 6, 86: Condemned Israel's hijacking of a Libyan passenger plane on 4 February. Vote: 10 to 1 with 1 abstention.

Jan 18, 88: Strongly deplored Israeli attacks against Lebanon and its measures and practices against the civilian population of Lebanon. Vote: 13 to 1 with 1 abstention.

Feb 1, 88: Called for Israel to abandon its policies against the Palestinian uprising that violate the rights of the Palestinians, to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention and formalise a leading role for the UN in future peace negotiations. Vote: 14 to 1.

Apr 15, 88: Urged Israel to reaccept deported Palestinians, condemned Israel's shooting of civilians, called on Israel to uphold the Fourth Geneva Convention and called for a peace settlement under UN auspices. Vote: 14 to 1.

May 10, 88: Condemned Israel's May 2 incursion into Lebanon. Vote: 14 to 1.

Dec 14, 88: Strongly deplored Israel's commando raids on Lebanon. Vote: 14 to 1.

Feb 17, 89: Strongly deplored Israel's repression of the Palestinian uprising and called on Israel to respect the human rights of the Palestinians. Vote 14 to 1.

June 9, 89: Strongly deplored Israel's violation of the human rights of the Palestinians. Vote: 14 to 1.

Aug 11, 89: Demanded Israel return property confiscated from Palestinians during a tax protest and allow a fact-finding mission to observe Israel's crackdown on the Palestinian uprising. Vote: 14 to 1.

Mar 5, 90: Called for a fact-finding mission on abuses against Palestinians in Israeli occupied lands. Vote: 14 to 1.

(Sources: Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, Washington, DC)

nuff said!
Berkylvania
11-05-2004, 21:23
Apparently, people are very fond of ripping people apart in the Middle East. This won't win Hamas militants any supporters.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3705399.stm

Israel isn't doing right by the Palestinians, but Hamas supporters are fooling themselves if they think they are supporting anything other than underdog thugs and hoodlims.