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I am curious as to if The Red Arrow ever came back in the form of a different nation. I hope not, but I do not know and do not feel like searching because I know there is at least one kind person who wants to add another post to their post count by telling me. :lol:

He's gone to FUA, which explains his suicide I suppose.

He's already started posting. On O'Reilly shouting done a son of the WTC bombing victims. Quite good OReilly, hints that he can talk to the dead.

I hope he does return.

His posts at least sparked debate, and IMHO were far superior to the "last to post wins", "word games", "do something to previous poster", or "temple to the mods" type posts.

And, he stuck around to defend and debate his posts, unlike some who post and run.

Vale TRA, R.I.P.
:cry:

I hope he does return.

His posts at least sparked debate, and IMHO were far superior to the "last to post wins", "word games", "do something to previous poster", or "temple to the mods" type posts.

And, he stuck around to defend and debate his posts, unlike some who post and run.

Vale TRA, R.I.P.
:cry:

He seemed to only flame, not debate. I hate him. I wish him death on NationStates and kind of hope for pain and suffering upon him in real life. 8)

I hope he does return.

His posts at least sparked debate, and IMHO were far superior to the "last to post wins", "word games", "do something to previous poster", or "temple to the mods" type posts.

And, he stuck around to defend and debate his posts, unlike some who post and run.

Vale TRA, R.I.P.
:cry:

He seemed to only flame, not debate. I hate him. I wish him death on NationStates and kind of hope for pain and suffering upon him in real life. 8)

Right little charmer you.
Is this your usual attitude to those who disagree with you?

On O'Reilly shouting done a son of the WTC bombing victims. Quite good OReilly, hints that he can talk to the dead.
Oh, oh, I remember that one. That was when he cut off a grieving father who mentioned that he was against the war in either Afghanistan or Iraq, insisting that his son would have wanted the US to go out and get revenge. What a heartless insensitive idiot.

Here's what he just posted on FUA if anyones interested.

Transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor" featuring Bill O'Reilly and Jeremy Glick

Glick, whose father was killed in the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, reported that after the interview O'Reilly said to him, "Get out of my studio before I tear you to fucking pieces."

Begin transcript:

Bill O'Reilly: In the "Personal Stories" segment tonight, we were surprised to find out than an American who lost his father in the World Trade Center attack had signed an anti-war advertisement that accused the USA itself of terrorism.

The offending passage read, "We too watched with shock the horrific events of September 11... we too mourned the thousands of innocent dead and shook our heads at the terrible scenes of carnage -- even as we recalled similar scenes in Baghdad, Panama City, and a generation ago, Vietnam."

With us now is Jeremy Glick, whose father, Barry, was a Port Authority worker at the Trade Center. Mr. Glick is a co-author of the book "Another World is Possible."

I'm surprised you signed this. You were the only one of all of the families who signed...

Jeremy Glick: Well, actually, that's not true.

O'Reilly: Who signed the advertisement?

Glick: Peaceful Tomorrow, which represents 9/11 families, were also involved.

O'Reilly: Hold it, hold it, hold it, Jeremy. You're the only one who signed this advertisement.

Glick: As an individual.

O'Reilly: Yes, as -- with your name. You were the only one. I was surprised, and the reason I was surprised is that this ad equates the United States with the terrorists. And I was offended by that.

Glick: Well, you say -- I remember earlier you said it was a moral equivalency, and it's actually a material equivalency. And just to back up for a second about your surprise, I'm actually shocked that you're surprised. If you think about it, our current president, who I feel and many feel is in this position illegitimately by neglecting the voices of Afro-Americans in the Florida coup, which, actually, somebody got impeached for during the Reconstruction period -- Our current president now inherited a legacy from his father and inherited a political legacy that's responsible for training militarily, economically, and situating geopolitically the parties involved in the alleged assassination and the murder of my father and countless of thousands of others. So I don't see why it's surprising...

O'Reilly: All right. Now let me stop you here. So...

Glick: ... for you to think that I would come back and want to support...

O'Reilly: It is surprising, and I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why it's surprising.

Glick: ... escalating...

O'Reilly: You are mouthing a far left position that is a marginal position in this society, which you're entitled to.

Glick: It's marginal -- right.

O'Reilly: You're entitled to it, all right, but you're -- you see, even -- I'm sure your beliefs are sincere, but what upsets me is I don't think your father would be approving of this.

Glick: Well, actually, my father thought that Bush's presidency was illegitimate.

O'Reilly: Maybe he did, but...

Glick: I also didn't think that Bush...

O'Reilly: ... I don't think he'd be equating this country as a terrorist nation as you are.

Glick: Well, I wasn't saying that it was necessarily like that.

O'Reilly: Yes, you are. You signed...

Glick: What I'm saying is...

O'Reilly: ... this, and that absolutely said that.

Glick: ... is that in -- six months before the Soviet invasion in Afghanistan, starting in the Carter administration and continuing and escalating while Bush's father was head of the CIA, we recruited a hundred thousand radical mujahadeens to combat a democratic government in Afghanistan, the Turaki government.

O'Reilly: All right. I don't want to...

Glick: Maybe...

O'Reilly: I don't want to debate world politics with you.

Glick: Well, why not? This is about world politics.

O'Reilly: Because, No. 1, I don't really care what you think.

Glick: Well, OK.

O'Reilly: You're -- I want to...

Glick: But you do care because you...

O'Reilly: No, no. Look...

Glick: The reason why you care is because you evoke 9/11...

O'Reilly: Here's why I care.

Glick: ... to rationalize...

O'Reilly: Here's why I care...

Glick: Let me finish. You evoke 9/11 to rationalize everything from domestic plunder to imperialistic aggression worldwide.

O'Reilly: OK. That's a bunch...

Glick: You evoke sympathy with the 9/11 families.

O'Reilly: That's a bunch of crap. I've done more for the 9/11 families by their own admission -- I've done more for them than you will ever hope to do.

Glick: OK.

O'Reilly: So you keep your mouth shut when you sit here exploiting those people.

Glick: Well, you're not representing me. You're not representing me.

O'Reilly: And I'd never represent you. You know why?

Glick: Why?

O'Reilly: Because you have a warped view of this world and a warped view of this country.

Glick: Well, explain that. Let me give you an example of a parallel...

O'Reilly: No, I'm not going to debate this with you, all right.

Glick: Well, let me give you an example of parallel experience. On September 14...

O'Reilly: No, no. Here's -- here's the...

Glick: On September 14...

O'Reilly: Here's the record.

Glick: OK.

O'Reilly: All right. You didn't support the action against Afghanistan to remove the Taliban. You were against it, OK.

Glick: Why would I want to brutalize and further punish the people in Afghanistan...

O'Reilly: Who killed your father!

Glick: The people in Afghanistan...

O'Reilly: Who killed your father.

Glick: ... didn't kill my father.

O'Reilly: Sure they did. The al Qaeda people were trained there.

Glick: The al Qaeda people? What about the Afghan people?

O'Reilly: See, I'm more angry about it than you are!

Glick: So what about George Bush?

O'Reilly: What about George Bush? He had nothing to do with it.

Glick: The director -- senior as director of the CIA.

O'Reilly: He had nothing to do with it.

Glick: So the people that trained a hundred thousand Mujahadeen who were...

O'Reilly: Man, I hope your mom isn't watching this.

Glick: Well, I hope she is.

O'Reilly: I hope your mother is not watching this because you -- that's it. I'm not going to say anymore.

Glick: OK.

O'Reilly: In respect for your father...

Glick: On September 14, do you want to know what I'm doing?

O'Reilly: Shut up. Shut up.

Glick: Oh, please don't tell me to shut up.

O'Reilly: As respect -- as respect -- in respect for your father, who was a Port Authority worker, a fine American, who got killed unnecessarily by barbarians...

Glick: By radical extremists who were trained by this government...

O'Reilly: Out of respect for him...

Glick: ... not the people of America.

O'Reilly: ... I'm not going to...

Glick: ... The people of the ruling class, the small minority.

O'Reilly: Cut his mic. I'm not going to dress you down anymore, out of respect for your father.

We will be back in a moment with more of THE FACTOR.

Glick: That means we're done?

O'Reilly: We're done.

End transcript

I kind of miss TRA. He was interesting.

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On O'Reilly shouting done a son of the WTC bombing victims. Quite good OReilly, hints that he can talk to the dead.
Oh, oh, I remember that one. That was when he cut off a grieving father who mentioned that he was against the war in either Afghanistan or Iraq, insisting that his son would have wanted the US to go out and get revenge. What a heartless insensitive idiot.

He obviously makes a habit out of it. This time it was the other way around, he told the son that the father wanted the US to act the way it did.

btw what time is this program on? (GMT preferably but I'll be able to convert it easily)

I believe the fascist bigot is on at 8pm EST

I believe the fascist bigot is on at 8pm EST

Is that NS board time? (ie GMT-4)

On O'Reilly shouting done a son of the WTC bombing victims. Quite good OReilly, hints that he can talk to the dead.
Oh, oh, I remember that one. That was when he cut off a grieving father who mentioned that he was against the war in either Afghanistan or Iraq, insisting that his son would have wanted the US to go out and get revenge. What a heartless insensitive idiot.

I think you're talking about the Jeremy Glick incident, where it was actually a son who said his father would have been against the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. But he wasn’t attacked because of his anti-war views. What happened was that O'Reilly found the phrasing and statements made in an anti-war ad to be offensive in their anti-American connotations.

One such passage read:
"We too watched with shock the horrific events of September 11... we too mourned the thousands of innocent dead and shook our heads at the terrible scenes of carnage -- even as we recalled similar scenes in Baghdad, Panama City, and a generation ago, Vietnam."

To O'Reilly, and plenty of others reading that statement, that ad is establishing a moral equivalency between America's actions in our wars/military ventures and the terrorist attacks of 9/11. Baghdad, Panama City and Vietnam obviously all were violent events, as all military conflicts are, and the US has commited atrocities in at least two of those conflicts. But to imply that the acts of violence within the US's action in the last three examples, equated to or resembled the terrorist attacks of September 11th – the willful killing of innocents in the pursuit of a fanatical Islamist agenda- is sickening. Also, IIRC Glick accused O’Reilly of attempting to use 9/11 to serve his own agenda. If anything, O'Reilly was the one who really got attacked this time around.

Anyway, on the subject of RA: I'm glad he's gone. IMO, he dumbed down the forum with his caricature-like Leftist rhetoric.

On O'Reilly shouting done a son of the WTC bombing victims. Quite good OReilly, hints that he can talk to the dead.
Oh, oh, I remember that one. That was when he cut off a grieving father who mentioned that he was against the war in either Afghanistan or Iraq, insisting that his son would have wanted the US to go out and get revenge. What a heartless insensitive idiot.

I think you're talking about the Jeremy Glick incident, where it was actually a son who said his father would have been against the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. But he wasn’t attacked because of his anti-war views. What happened was that O'Reilly found the phrasing and statements made in an anti-war ad to be offensive in their anti-American connotations.

One such passage read:
"We too watched with shock the horrific events of September 11... we too mourned the thousands of innocent dead and shook our heads at the terrible scenes of carnage -- even as we recalled similar scenes in Baghdad, Panama City, and a generation ago, Vietnam."

To O'Reilly, and plenty of others reading that statement, that ad is establishing a moral equivalency between America's actions in our wars/military ventures and the terrorist attacks of 9/11. Baghdad, Panama City and Vietnam obviously all were violent events, as all military conflicts are, and the US has commited atrocities in at least two of those conflicts. But to imply that the acts of violence within the US's action in the last three examples, equated to or resembled the terrorist attacks of September 11th – the willful killing of innocents in the pursuit of a fanatical Islamist agenda- is sickening. Also, IIRC Glick accused O’Reilly of attempting to use 9/11 to serve his own agenda. If anything, O'Reilly was the one who really got attacked this time around.

Anyway, on the subject of RA: I'm glad he's gone. IMO, he dumbed down the forum with his caricature-like Leftist rhetoric.

he gave liberals a bad name.

On O'Reilly shouting done a son of the WTC bombing victims. Quite good OReilly, hints that he can talk to the dead.
Oh, oh, I remember that one. That was when he cut off a grieving father who mentioned that he was against the war in either Afghanistan or Iraq, insisting that his son would have wanted the US to go out and get revenge. What a heartless insensitive idiot.

I think you're talking about the Jeremy Glick incident, where it was actually a son who said his father would have been against the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. But he wasn’t attacked because of his anti-war views. What happened was that O'Reilly found the phrasing and statements made in an anti-war ad to be offensive in their anti-American connotations.

One such passage read:
"We too watched with shock the horrific events of September 11... we too mourned the thousands of innocent dead and shook our heads at the terrible scenes of carnage -- even as we recalled similar scenes in Baghdad, Panama City, and a generation ago, Vietnam."

To O'Reilly, and plenty of others reading that statement, that ad is establishing a moral equivalency between America's actions in our wars/military ventures and the terrorist attacks of 9/11. Baghdad, Panama City and Vietnam obviously all were violent events, as all military conflicts are, and the US has commited atrocities in at least two of those conflicts. But to imply that the acts of violence within the US's action in the last three examples, equated to or resembled the terrorist attacks of September 11th – the willful killing of innocents in the pursuit of a fanatical Islamist agenda- is sickening. Also, IIRC Glick accused O’Reilly of attempting to use 9/11 to serve his own agenda. If anything, O'Reilly was the one who really got attacked this time around.

Anyway, on the subject of RA: I'm glad he's gone. IMO, he dumbed down the forum with his caricature-like Leftist rhetoric.

he gave liberals a bad name.

Yeah. I remember there was a rumor going around once that he was really just a right-winger trying to make the left look bad. Wouldn't surprise me.

Is this your usual attitude to those who disagree with you?

Obviously not, if you have paid any attention to my posts in NationStates. That is my normal attitude towards those I deem as morons. TRA was nothing but a stupid teenager that copied and pasted articles from leftist news. I am a liberal myself, but he just gave a bad name to those who swing to the left on the political spectrum. I thought he was nothing more than a idiotic flamer who deserves nothing more than a deletion.

Yeah. I remember there was a rumor going around once that he was really just a right-winger trying to make the left look bad. Wouldn't surprise me.

He has called me that many times before. :lol:

I hate him, what can I say?

Is this your usual attitude to those who disagree with you?

Obviously not, if you have paid any attention to my posts in NationStates. That is my normal attitude towards those I deem as morons. TRA was nothing but a stupid teenager that copied and pasted articles from leftist news. I am a liberal myself, but he just gave a bad name to those who swing to the left on the political spectrum. I thought he was nothing more than a idiotic flamer who deserves nothing more than a deletion.

A typical RA post seemed to be:

-Conservatives are religious right extremists/fascists/nazis/[insert fringe group here].
-Leftist rhetoric repeated ad naseum.
-Cut & Pasted articles, with little if any commentary on them other than "BUSH IS EVIL!!!111" or similar ideas.
-The left is always right, and you're evil/selfish/a repressive bastard if you disagree.

Yeah. I remember there was a rumor going around once that he was really just a right-winger trying to make the left look bad. Wouldn't surprise me.

He has called me that many times before. :lol:

I hate him, what can I say?

What did that make Letila to him then? Center-left? :lol:

yeah, I remember that rumor

to TRA, letila was hitler

Is this your usual attitude to those who disagree with you?

Obviously not, if you have paid any attention to my posts in NationStates. That is my normal attitude towards those I deem as morons. TRA was nothing but a stupid teenager that copied and pasted articles from leftist news. I am a liberal myself, but he just gave a bad name to those who swing to the left on the political spectrum. I thought he was nothing more than a idiotic flamer who deserves nothing more than a deletion.

A typical RA post seemed to be:

-Conservatives are religious right extremists/fascists/nazis/[insert fringe group here].
-Leftist rhetoric repeated ad naseum.
-Cut & Pasted articles, with little if any commentary on them other than "BUSH IS EVIL!!!111" or similar ideas.
-The left is always right, and you're evil/selfish/a repressive bastard if you disagree.

You hit the nail right on the head, American Militarists.

By the way, does your name reflect your political point of view? If so, telegram me.

i liked red, i don't care if he was a closet republican.

sure he was a bit of a reformist parlimentarian democratic tailist, but heck true revolutionary marxists are rare as hen's teeth these days.

yeah, I remember that rumor

to TRA, letila was hitler

No, no... Hitler believed in the primacy of the state. That's an insult to Hitler.

If Letila really was an Anarchist, he's to the left of TRA. Way, way, way to the left. Beyond socialism, beyond communism...

yeah, I remember that rumor

to TRA, letila was hitler

No, no... Hitler believed in the primacy of the state. That's an insult to Hitler.

If Letila really was an Anarchist, he's to the left of TRA. Way, way, way to the left. Beyond socialism, beyond communism...


petty bourgeois ultra leftists may posture at the farthest left possible, but when it comes to actual political programs and actions they rapidly collapse into the left liberal wing of the capitalist parties.

i liked red, i don't care if he was a closet republican.

sure he was a bit of a reformist parlimentarian democratic tailist, but heck true revolutionary marxists are rare as hen's teeth these days.

You call him a true revolutionary marxist? Hah! If he was he would not be wasting his time with NationStates. 8)

i liked red, i don't care if he was a closet republican.

sure he was a bit of a reformist parlimentarian democratic tailist, but heck true revolutionary marxists are rare as hen's teeth these days.

You call him a true revolutionary marxist? Hah! If he was he would not be wasting his time with NationStates. 8)


where better to recruit young cadres than a site which caters to teens and young adults interested in politics and how nations are and should be run.

petty bourgeois ultra leftists may posture at the farthest left possible, but when it comes to actual political programs and actions they rapidly collapse into the left liberal wing of the capitalist parties.

I have one thing to say to you... LONG LIVE THE IMPERIALIST-CAPITALIST REACTIONARY BOURGEOIS!

Now back to the mines with you.

where better to recruit young cadres than a site which caters to teens and young adults interested in politics and how nations are and should be run.

How about a site that is not full of stupid teens who like to rebel against what their parents and society says by going communist and thinking they are cool and intelligent because of it?

where better to recruit young cadres than a site which caters to teens and young adults interested in politics and how nations are and should be run.

How about a site that is not full of stupid teens who like to rebel against what their parents and society says by going communist and thinking they are cool and intelligent because of it?

Name 4. Seriously, now. Name four sites where the communists are like that? This one has the highest ratio of real communists to pseudo-communists I've seen.

where better to recruit young cadres than a site which caters to teens and young adults interested in politics and how nations are and should be run.

How about a site that is not full of stupid teens who like to rebel against what their parents and society says by going communist and thinking they are cool and intelligent because of it?

you don't want to recruit jaded political sophisticants, you want raw young idealist who can be molded through political education into disciplined and loyal comrades.

Name 4. Seriously, now. Name four sites where the communists are like that? This one has the highest ratio of real communists to pseudo-communists I've seen.

Well, I use to be one. I know how they think. They are very idealistic. I know, I use to be. Now I am a lot more realistic which is why I have turned from communism to market based socialism.

And that comment I made was an exageration, but hopefully you got my point.

you don't want to recruit jaded political sophisticants, you want raw young idealist who can be molded through political education into disciplined and loyal comrades.

AKA brainwashing? Taking a young mind that is experimenting with a philosophy and educating them in the ways that you want? I do not like this, I really do not like this. :cry:

AKA brainwashing? Taking a young mind that is experimenting with a philosophy and educating them in the ways that you want? I do not like this, I really do not like this. :cry:

Well, well, well... cracks appearing in the revolutionary front? Oh, what a shame.

Brainwashing is the tool of mindless despots and people who can't gain the trust of their people through their own means. Now who is Imperialist? That's imperialism against people's own minds.

However, what Red here probably meant was taking people who are already communists and putting them on the side of his own communism. Like...say...Stalinists and normal Marxists... bad example.

Hmmm...

Well, well, well... cracks appearing in the revolutionary front? Oh, what a shame.

Brainwashing is the tool of mindless despots and people who can't gain the trust of their people through their own means. Now who is Imperialist? That's imperialism against people's own minds.

However, what Red here probably meant was taking people who are already communists and putting them on the side of his own communism. Like...say...Stalinists and normal Marxists... bad example.

Hmmm...

I still do not like the idea. I believe teens should grow older before they commit themselves to any political or religious movement. This way they can experience more than just living under their parent's roof. They can get out into the real world to see what life is really like. I admit, I have not yet moved out of my mother's house. But I am a senior and almost out. But I have already calmed down in political views and believe that teens should not commit to any political movement until they have grown more (I am specifically talking about teens around the age of 15).

you don't want to recruit jaded political sophisticants, you want raw young idealist who can be molded through political education into disciplined and loyal comrades.

AKA brainwashing? Taking a young mind that is experimenting with a philosophy and educating them in the ways that you want? I do not like this, I really do not like this. :cry:

brainwashing is what people with power do to the american populous every day, political indoctrination is an important mpart of the democratic centrism of the vanguard party. the party line exists so that the party can be an effective tool of political change. without it the party would have no ability to focus tightly enough to resist the constant onslaught of bourgeois propaganda.

Brainwashing is commercials

brainwashing is what people with power do to the american populous every day, political indoctrination is an important mpart of the democratic centrism of the vanguard party. the party line exists so that the party can be an effective tool of political change. without it the party would have no ability to focus tightly enough to resist the constant onslaught of bourgeois propaganda.

Gosh darn it, didn't I tell you to get back to the mines? Look, are you really a Communist? What type? Marxist? Stalinist? Engelist? Bolshevik? Menshevik? Leninist?

What? And don't you realise the cold war is over? We (being me, and my fellow Capitalists) won.

brainwashing is what people with power do to the american populous every day, political indoctrination is an important mpart of the democratic centrism of the vanguard party. the party line exists so that the party can be an effective tool of political change. without it the party would have no ability to focus tightly enough to resist the constant onslaught of bourgeois propaganda.

Gosh darn it, didn't I tell you to get back to the mines? Look, are you really a Communist? What type? Marxist? Stalinist? Engelist? Bolshevik? Menshevik? Leninist?

What? And don't you realise the cold war is over? We (being me, and my fellow Capitalists) won.


lapsed trotskyist playing a neo maoist

brainwashing is what people with power do to the american populous every day, political indoctrination is an important mpart of the democratic centrism of the vanguard party. the party line exists so that the party can be an effective tool of political change. without it the party would have no ability to focus tightly enough to resist the constant onslaught of bourgeois propaganda.

Gosh darn it, didn't I tell you to get back to the mines? Look, are you really a Communist? What type? Marxist? Stalinist? Engelist? Bolshevik? Menshevik? Leninist?

What? And don't you realise the cold war is over? We (being me, and my fellow Capitalists) won.


lapsed trotskyist playing a neo maoist WUAH? :shock: wtf are you talking about? never mind, i dont care

brainwashing is what people with power do to the american populous every day, political indoctrination is an important mpart of the democratic centrism of the vanguard party. the party line exists so that the party can be an effective tool of political change. without it the party would have no ability to focus tightly enough to resist the constant onslaught of bourgeois propaganda.

Gosh darn it, didn't I tell you to get back to the mines? Look, are you really a Communist? What type? Marxist? Stalinist? Engelist? Bolshevik? Menshevik? Leninist?

What? And don't you realise the cold war is over? We (being me, and my fellow Capitalists) won.


lapsed trotskyist playing a neo maoist WUAH? :shock: wtf are you talking about? never mind, i dont care

red guard revisionists was created to be a neo maoist(the red guard were the ultramaoists of the cultural revolution in china). in real life i was a member of a trotskyist party(the spartacist league) in the mid 80s for a brief period of time before i became disillusioned a dropped out, therefore i'm a lapsed trotskyist in the way a person who fell away from the catholic church is a lapsed catholic.

brainwashing is what people with power do to the american populous every day, political indoctrination is an important mpart of the democratic centrism of the vanguard party. the party line exists so that the party can be an effective tool of political change. without it the party would have no ability to focus tightly enough to resist the constant onslaught of bourgeois propaganda.

Gosh darn it, didn't I tell you to get back to the mines? Look, are you really a Communist? What type? Marxist? Stalinist? Engelist? Bolshevik? Menshevik? Leninist?

What? And don't you realise the cold war is over? We (being me, and my fellow Capitalists) won.


lapsed trotskyist playing a neo maoist WUAH? :shock: wtf are you talking about? never mind, i dont care

red guard revisionists was created to be a neo maoist(the red guard were the ultramaoists of the cultural revolution in china). in real life i was a member of a trotskyist party(the spartacist league) in the mid 80s for a brief period of time before i became disillusioned a dropped out, therefore i'm a lapsed trotskyist in the way a person who fell away from the catholic church is a lapsed catholic.


huh? ok, you're still a dirty communist to me :D

huh? ok, you're still a dirty communist to me :DNothing like going straight to the point!

huh? ok, you're still a dirty communist to me :DNothing like going straight to the point!

The Red Arrow used to stick around to debate his posts.

Some post their propaganda and run.

Sound familiar?

huh? ok, you're still a dirty communist to me :DNothing like going straight to the point!

The Red Arrow used to stick around to debate his posts.

Some post their propaganda and run.

Sound familiar?

What TRA did was hardly debate. "I'm right, you're wrong," doesn't count.

huh? ok, you're still a dirty communist to me :DNothing like going straight to the point!

The Red Arrow used to stick around to debate his posts.

Some post their propaganda and run.

Sound familiar?

What TRA did was hardly debate. "I'm right, you're wrong," doesn't count.

He would at least reply to posts in the thread he created.
Some do not even do that. :roll:

The Red Arrow was entertaining, but a bit of a flammer. Debating with him was never civilized, or even a debate. Rather, it turned into shouting matches in Latin (as we both know some Latin).

huh? ok, you're still a dirty communist to me :DNothing like going straight to the point!

The Red Arrow used to stick around to debate his posts.

Some post their propaganda and run.

Sound familiar?

What TRA did was hardly debate. "I'm right, you're wrong," doesn't count.

He would at least reply to posts in the thread he created.
Some do not even do that. :roll:

Well, that's true.

The best example I remember of the TRAs idea of debate was his defending some point by saying his father said real life was just like the Sopranos.

:lol:

[red guard revisionists was created to be a neo maoist(the red guard were the ultramaoists of the cultural revolution in china). in real life i was a member of a trotskyist party(the spartacist league) in the mid 80s for a brief period of time before i became disillusioned a dropped out, therefore i'm a lapsed trotskyist in the way a person who fell away from the catholic church is a lapsed catholic.
Goodness, you're the first Spart I've ever heard about on Nation States.
Yeah, this post means nothing but I was so suprised I had an outburst. Heh.

am i the second spart???


If you want to DEBATE or FLAME the Red Arrow, he is now at FUA.

for the link, check Page 18 of the OFFICAL NATION WEBSITE LISTING sticky.

am i the second spart???

ROFL! No!

If you want to DEBATE or FLAME the Red Arrow, he is now at FUA.

for the link, check Page 18 of the OFFICAL NATION WEBSITE LISTING sticky.
Yeah but ask yourself, 'am I ponce' , first. If you find yourself saying 'yeah, I am a ponce', then stay here.

[red guard revisionists was created to be a neo maoist(the red guard were the ultramaoists of the cultural revolution in china). in real life i was a member of a trotskyist party(the spartacist league) in the mid 80s for a brief period of time before i became disillusioned a dropped out, therefore i'm a lapsed trotskyist in the way a person who fell away from the catholic church is a lapsed catholic.
Goodness, you're the first Spart I've ever heard about on Nation States.

somebody else was one, but i forget who. mallberta, maybe?

i'm kinda surprised that the maoist international movement doesn't have a mim nation to relay all the latest happenings in maoism to us.

[red guard revisionists was created to be a neo maoist(the red guard were the ultramaoists of the cultural revolution in china). in real life i was a member of a trotskyist party(the spartacist league) in the mid 80s for a brief period of time before i became disillusioned a dropped out, therefore i'm a lapsed trotskyist in the way a person who fell away from the catholic church is a lapsed catholic.
Goodness, you're the first Spart I've ever heard about on Nation States.

somebody else was one, but i forget who. mallberta, maybe?

i'm kinda surprised that the maoist international movement doesn't have a mim nation to relay all the latest happenings in maoism to us.


are they the ones who refer to their comrades by numbers in their paper, i remember someone who did that. i always had a soft spot for chairman bob and the revolutionary communist party and their long extremely uncatchy slogans mixed in with the occasional catchy but extremely politically vague one.

http://rwor.org/i/m/avakian3.gif
Bob is one creepy lookin' feller though. :shock:

http://rwor.org/i/m/avakian3.gif
Bob is one creepy lookin' feller though. :shock:

that picture's gotta be about 25 or 30 years old too.

the sparts never show any pictures of chairman robertson(at least i think that was the chairman's name back in the 80s)

i always had a soft spot for chairman bob and the revolutionary communist party and their long extremely uncatchy slogans mixed in with the occasional catchy but extremely politically vague one.

heh, chairman bob. you'd think someone would figure out that it just sounds silly to chant about chairman bob.

haha, from wikipedia's article on bob:

"As a result of these demonstrations, Avakian went underground, where he has remained since. Rumours circulate as to his possible location, but it is most commonly stated that he lives in Paris. Reasons for his continued exile seem to be murky."

sounds like an anarchist wrote up that one.