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Does communism suck or what?

08-05-2004, 03:15
Communism must be the worst form of goverment on the world, after fascism. "Oh, it's a good theory!" you say. Guess what: WHO CARES? It just doesn't work! Am I right or what?

UP WITH CAPITALISM!

TRY AND STOP US, LIBERALS! THE UNITED STATES WILL ENSLAVE THE WORLD!!!!
Colodia
08-05-2004, 03:16
I dunno, does it suck? And if it does, what does it suck?


I'm an imperialist liberal. My goal is the oval office. Get my drift? :wink: (No, seriously)
Letila
08-05-2004, 03:18
When it is done properly, it is the best economic system.

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Berkylvania
08-05-2004, 03:19
Helloooooooooooooo Flamebait!
08-05-2004, 03:23
When it is done properly, it is the best economic system.



That's the whole thing, it can't be done properly. It's too good for mere humans.
Kwangistar
08-05-2004, 03:23
Ideally it dosen't, realistically it does.
The Great Leveller
08-05-2004, 03:26
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5412/twisted.JPG

Thanks for clearing that up.
Monkeypimp
08-05-2004, 03:33
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5412/twisted.JPG

Thanks for clearing that up.

hahahahahaha
Letila
08-05-2004, 03:33
That's the whole thing, it can't be done properly. It's too good for mere humans.

How? What makes it impossible for work to be replaced by fulfilling activities that leave the doer enriched rather than bored?

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"But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality."
Free your mind! (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html)
I like big butts!

http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/eddy_the_great/steatopygia.jpg
The Great Leveller
08-05-2004, 03:35
hahahahahaha

I know. I have too much time on my hands.
Madesonia
08-05-2004, 03:35
I think it would work with a woman in charge....
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Berkylvania
08-05-2004, 03:36
I think it would work with a woman in charge....
..

Would these be the good, yet possibly corrupted by power and therefore potentially evil big-butted women from the other thread?
Letila
08-05-2004, 03:38
Evil big-butted women, now there's an oxymoron.

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"But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality."
Free your mind! (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html)
I like big butts!

http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/eddy_the_great/steatopygia.jpg
Madesonia
08-05-2004, 03:38
I think it would work with a woman in charge....
..

Would these be the good, yet possibly corrupted by power and therefore potentially evil big-butted women from the other thread? I was just refering to myself... I've always wanted to be a Communist leader.. just for a day..
Berkylvania
08-05-2004, 03:40
I think it would work with a woman in charge....
..

Would these be the good, yet possibly corrupted by power and therefore potentially evil big-butted women from the other thread? I was just refering to myself... I've always wanted to be a Communist leader.. just for a day..

And what would you do if you were a Communist leader just for a day?
Madesonia
08-05-2004, 03:41
I think it would work with a woman in charge....
..

Would these be the good, yet possibly corrupted by power and therefore potentially evil big-butted women from the other thread? I was just refering to myself... I've always wanted to be a Communist leader.. just for a day..

And what would you do if you were a Communist leader just for a day? Why crush all of those who are unworthy of me... of course!
Berkylvania
08-05-2004, 03:42
I think it would work with a woman in charge....
..

Would these be the good, yet possibly corrupted by power and therefore potentially evil big-butted women from the other thread? I was just refering to myself... I've always wanted to be a Communist leader.. just for a day..

And what would you do if you were a Communist leader just for a day? Why crush all of those who are unworthy of me... of course!

I like your style. :D
Madesonia
08-05-2004, 03:43
Thank you!
Berkylvania
08-05-2004, 03:44
You are welcome!
Madesonia
08-05-2004, 03:46
Would you do about the same thing in a seat of power like that, or something different?
Therealsovietunion
08-05-2004, 03:51
Communism does work, if done well. unfortunately, it is also inherently near-impossible to DO well. the only true communism that has ever worked was the Native Americans. the problem lies in that it fails to factor in basic human emotions, like greed. if one man works hard, he gets the same as the guy who does nothing. so he does nothing, too. then everyone else follows suit. also, in, say the Soviet Union, it could not possibly be equal if the gavernment lives in an opulent palace (kremlin) while the peasents live in a shack. effectively, a perfect system, made for a perfect world. too bad this world just ain't perfect.
Shroomton
08-05-2004, 04:07
in America you put "In God we Trust" on your money...in Soviet Russia...they have no money
Greater Valia
08-05-2004, 04:13
in America you put "In God we Trust" on your money...in Soviet Russia...they have no money

that from king of the hill?
Berkylvania
08-05-2004, 04:14
in America you put "In God we Trust" on your money...in Soviet Russia...they have no money

that from king of the hill?

I'm thinking Yakov Smirnov (sp?).
Shroomton
08-05-2004, 04:14
100% correct on both accounts you are
Shroomton
08-05-2004, 04:16
in america, you have electromagnetic zero point fluctuators, in russia, zero point fluctuates you <---- i stole that one from www.somethingawful.com if you havent heard of it...funniest website on the interweb
Greater Valia
08-05-2004, 04:16
in america, you have electromagnetic zero point fluctuators, in russia, zero point fluctuates you

www.somethingawful.com well, i like you already!!! :D
HARU
08-05-2004, 04:17
Bah...communism...too much red tape. :roll:
Shroomton
08-05-2004, 04:17
i can tell this is the beginning of a great friendship
Shroomton
08-05-2004, 04:20
never mind communism, check this out

www.commujism.com

its from Maddox, the guy behind www.maddox.xmission.com hes yet another person i envy....i wish i had talent *swallows bottle of prozak*
Free Soviets
08-05-2004, 08:51
the only true communism that has ever worked was the Native Americans.

nah, primitive communism existed all over the place before the rise of states. some of the best semi-modern examples occur in africa and asia.

the problem lies in that it fails to factor in basic human emotions, like greed. if one man works hard, he gets the same as the guy who does nothing. so he does nothing, too. then everyone else follows suit.

except that it doesn't fail in that respect at all. the mere existence of the possibility of free riding does not disallow some form of sanctions against people who free ride beyond what others are willing to allow. and if too many people try to free ride then there is nothing to distribute anyways, so free riding has no benefit. and, of course, there are other rewards beyond material goods that people tend to value more anyways.

also, in, say the Soviet Union, it could not possibly be equal if the gavernment lives in an opulent palace (kremlin) while the peasents live in a shack.

which should be your first clue that they weren't even trying.
Filamai
08-05-2004, 10:33
Evil big-butted women, now there's an oxymoron.


Oprah Winfrey
Free Soviets
08-05-2004, 10:34
Evil big-butted women, now there's an oxymoron.


Oprah Winfrey

he's got you there, letila
Colodia
08-05-2004, 23:17
Would this be a fine time to bring up the giant picture of a Nazi 15 yr old Dictator?
Johnistan
09-05-2004, 01:33
Human beings are flawed, the reason capitalism suceeds so much because it exploits and uses those flaws to work. But after awhile, society becomes too flawed and it falls apart. Then some sort of communistic system comes up, it doesn't work and the system crashes. People return to capitalism, and the cycle continues.
Letila
09-05-2004, 01:38
Human beings are flawed, the reason capitalism suceeds so much because it exploits and uses those flaws to work. But after awhile, society becomes too flawed and it falls apart. Then some sort of communistic system comes up, it doesn't work and the system crashes. People return to capitalism, and the cycle continues.

No, it creates those flaws by raising people to value wealth above all else.

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"But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality."
Free your mind! (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html)
I like big butts!

http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/eddy_the_great/steatopygia.jpg
The Global Market
09-05-2004, 01:45
Communism sucks but they have by far the best music (english.sovmusic.ru)
Letila
09-05-2004, 01:48
Yes, democratic economics and ensuring that people have what they need are so bad. Why is being ordered around or starving such a nice alternative?

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"But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality."
Free your mind! (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html)
I like big butts!

http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/eddy_the_great/steatopygia.jpg
Cuneo Island
09-05-2004, 01:48
Communism blows the big one.

If we were communists here in the US, I would not be posting from this kick ass luxury Manhattan condo.
Free Soviets
09-05-2004, 03:00
If we were communists here in the US, I would not be posting from this kick ass luxury Manhattan condo.

unless there were enough luxury condos for everyone who wanted one...
Superpower07
09-05-2004, 03:07
Communism must be the worst form of goverment on the world, after fascism. "Oh, it's a good theory!" you say. Guess what: WHO CARES? It just doesn't work! Am I right or what?

UP WITH CAPITALISM!

TRY AND STOP US, LIBERALS! THE UNITED STATES WILL ENSLAVE THE WORLD!!!!

Umm . . . Mr. Joseph McCarthy, I am a liberal who embraces Capitalism :roll:
Tuesday Heights
09-05-2004, 03:09
I'll say what I always say in these threads: Communism is perfect on paper, but humans mess perfection up at the drop of a hat.
Our heroes Che Marx
09-05-2004, 03:13
this kid that started this topic has to be a fuckin retard im an ardent communist and support it through and trough and im only fuckin 15!



-che
Free Soviets
09-05-2004, 03:13
TRY AND STOP US, LIBERALS! THE UNITED STATES WILL ENSLAVE THE WORLD!!!!

Umm . . . Mr. Joseph McCarthy, I am a liberal who embraces Capitalism :roll:

all liberals do. its what makes 'em liberals as opposed to socialists. a lot of right wingers just can't make distinctions finer than "us vs. eeeeevil". if liberals are not us, they must be eeeeevil. communists are also eeeeevil. therefore liberals are communists.

and for my next trick i'll pull fiscal responsibility and 'small government' out of record-setting reckless spending...
Free Soviets
09-05-2004, 03:15
this kid that started this topic has to be a f--- retard im an ardent communist and support it through and trough and im only f--- 15!

i assume from your name that you are some sort of a marxist. mind if i ask which branch?
Yugolsavia
09-05-2004, 03:44
It is to perfect because we all have human tendencys and communism goes aganst them.
Free Soviets
09-05-2004, 03:48
It is to perfect because we all have human tendencys and communism goes aganst them.

what, every possible form of communism? how so?