NationStates Jolt Archive


September 11 2009/2013

Superpower07
08-05-2004, 02:35
Personally I'm worried about these two dates. In 2009 the Freedom Tower will be complete and in 2013 the WTC complex will be finished. Are we possibly facing an attack of greater-than-before proportions on these two days? It just scares me
Colodia
08-05-2004, 02:36
September 12, 2001: OMG! Protect t3h L.A. towers!!!!111!!11!!!!!1shift!!!1337@!!!!

September 11, 2002: W/e....

September 11, 2003: Omg! Protect t3h nation!!!1!1!!!!1!
Berkylvania
08-05-2004, 02:37
Well, I wouldn't worry too much about 9/11/13 date. Doesn't they Mayan calender run out in 2012? Or was it an asteroid that was supposed to hit us? Point is, good money's on us not even being here then. :D
08-05-2004, 02:58
No, I think that the asteriod hits in '23.
Whittier
08-05-2004, 02:59
Nothing will happen. It is all in your imagination.
Colodia
08-05-2004, 02:59
Well, I wouldn't worry too much about 9/11/13 date. Doesn't they Mayan calender run out in 2012? Or was it an asteroid that was supposed to hit us? Point is, good money's on us not even being here then. :D

typical, right around the time I'll be 21 :roll:
Kwangistar
08-05-2004, 03:01
I think the Freedom Tower will probably be pretty resistant. If they wanted to damage, I'd imagine they'd hit it during construction.

Although if the people do a good job construction the Towers and the complex, a terrorist attack shouldn't be a worry. Attacking the WTC site again would be a bit of terrorist grandstanding, Bin Laden's, although delusional, is also at the same time quite smart in an evil sort of way, and these operations take quite a while to plan and get the resources for. I doubt he would "waste" terrorists on a hopeless plan.
Berkylvania
08-05-2004, 03:02
No, I think that the asteriod hits in '23.

Was it '23? All I remember is we have two big doomsday scenarios and one of them is going to be rather disappointed.
08-05-2004, 03:02
The new unlucky number is 11. 9/11, 3/11, 11/11. Catch my drift? And I'm gona be watchin' my ass on Tuesdays. Oh crap the 11th day of May falls on Tuesday!
oh shit, oh shit, oh shit.
Expensive Territory
08-05-2004, 03:04
What we need is a decoy WTC to throw off the terrorists the next time they try something. Won't they feel stupid when they crash a plane into something that just deflates :D .
Colodia
08-05-2004, 03:04
What we need is a decoy WTC to throw off the terrorists the next time they try something. Won't they feel stupid when they crash a plane into something that just deflates :D .=

:lol:
The Great Leveller
08-05-2004, 03:05
The new unlucky number is 11. 9/11, 3/11, 11/11. Catch my drift? And I'm gona be watchin' my ass on Tuesdays. Oh crap the 11th day of May falls on Tuesday!
oh shit, oh shit, oh shit.

Because that is a really unfortunate day. My birthday :D
Colodia
08-05-2004, 03:08
The new unlucky number is 11. 9/11, 3/11, 11/11. Catch my drift? And I'm gona be watchin' my ass on Tuesdays. Oh crap the 11th day of May falls on Tuesday!
oh shit, oh shit, oh shit.

Because that is a really unfortunate day. My birthday :D
lets have a party

I'll bring the big screen TV, the CNN channel, and surround-sound speakers
The Great Leveller
08-05-2004, 03:12
The new unlucky number is 11. 9/11, 3/11, 11/11. Catch my drift? And I'm gona be watchin' my ass on Tuesdays. Oh crap the 11th day of May falls on Tuesday!
oh shit, oh shit, oh shit.

Because that is a really unfortunate day. My birthday :D
lets have a party

I'll bring the big screen TV, the CNN channel, and surround-sound speakers

Your a bit early.







Just bring them anyway, I've never watched CNN
08-05-2004, 03:13
What we need is a decoy WTC to throw off the terrorists the next time they try something. Won't they feel stupid when they crash a plane into something that just deflates :D .

Yes. And they'll fly deflatable airplanes into the towers.
Colodia
08-05-2004, 03:13
The new unlucky number is 11. 9/11, 3/11, 11/11. Catch my drift? And I'm gona be watchin' my ass on Tuesdays. Oh crap the 11th day of May falls on Tuesday!
oh shit, oh shit, oh shit.

Because that is a really unfortunate day. My birthday :D
lets have a party

I'll bring the big screen TV, the CNN channel, and surround-sound speakers

Your a bit early.







Just bring them anyway, I've never watched CNN

it's awesome. Flashy lights, pretty images, big words!
Expensive Territory
08-05-2004, 03:18
What we need is a decoy WTC to throw off the terrorists the next time they try something. Won't they feel stupid when they crash a plane into something that just deflates :D .

Yes. And they'll fly deflatable airplanes into the towers.

Didn't realize that Valujet was still in business.
New Cyprus
08-05-2004, 03:23
I don't personally think we have to much to worry about. With all the steps taken to prevent such acts now, it is doubtful they will be able to get past the airport security. And by then, all unidentified aircraft in the US will probably get shot down anyway! :shock:
Sarzonia
08-05-2004, 03:30
I don't personally think we have to much to worry about. With all the steps taken to prevent such acts now, it is doubtful they will be able to get past the airport security. And by then, all unidentified aircraft in the US will probably get shot down anyway! :shock:

I think our airport security is VERY shaky... if a college kid could get stuff past security to prove a point, we have a LOT of work to do to prevent another 9/11-esque attack.

As for doomsday scenarios, the thing I'd be worried about is if Bin Laden got hold of nukes and dropped them on New York and Washington.
Slap Happy Lunatics
08-05-2004, 03:45
The new unlucky number is 11. 9/11, 3/11, 11/11. Catch my drift? And I'm gona be watchin' my ass on Tuesdays. Oh crap the 11th day of May falls on Tuesday!
oh shit, oh shit, oh shit.

Because that is a really unfortunate day. My birthday :D

WWI ended on 11/11 at 11 AM, but that is so last century!

LOL!

:shock:
Akawaa
08-05-2004, 03:50
"I'd be worried about is if Bin Laden got hold of nukes and dropped them on New York and Washington."


Comforting..... :? :? :? :shock:
Slap Happy Lunatics
08-05-2004, 03:59
I don't personally think we have to much to worry about. With all the steps taken to prevent such acts now, it is doubtful they will be able to get past the airport security. And by then, all unidentified aircraft in the US will probably get shot down anyway! :shock:

On 2-26-93 they used a Ryder truck. On 9-11-01, jets. Next time it will be something else.

I think NYC is due for a hit between now and election day. It will come when we least expect it, how we least expect it, in a place we least expect it. When the guard has the day off.

Now where did I put that gas mask, my radiation suit and my duct tape?

:shock:
Cuneo Island
08-05-2004, 04:00
Personally I'm worried about these two dates. In 2009 the Freedom Tower will be complete and in 2013 the WTC complex will be finished. Are we possibly facing an attack of greater-than-before proportions on these two days? It just scares me

There's always a possibility but we shouldn't constantly live in fear. I'm sure Pearl Harbor scared the hell out of people and they were probably expecting a repeat attack, but nothing happened.
Brindisi Dorom
08-05-2004, 04:03
No, I think that the asteriod hits in '23.

Nope, the earthquake that separates the Western United States from the rest of America happens in 2023.
Expensive Territory
08-05-2004, 04:03
Now where did I put that gas mask, my radiation suit and my duct tape?

:shock:

Don't forget your parachute.
CanuckHeaven
08-05-2004, 04:04
Personally I'm worried about these two dates. In 2009 the Freedom Tower will be complete and in 2013 the WTC complex will be finished. Are we possibly facing an attack of greater-than-before proportions on these two days? It just scares me
If you live in fear than the terrorists have done far more than destroy buildings. They have planted seeds that robs one of their happiness. So be the best you can be today and enjoy your life the best you can. Be positive, loving and kind, and be good to your neighbour.

If nothing happens in 2009 or 2013, then you will have worried for 5/9 years for nothing?
Berkylvania
08-05-2004, 04:06
No, I think that the asteriod hits in '23.

Nope, the earthquake that separates the Western United States from the rest of America happens in 2023.

Wait, wasn't that when the Yellowstone supercaldera was supposed to blow and cover the mainland of Northern America in five centimeters of lava? Or was that 2032?

So many disasters, so little time.
Slap Happy Lunatics
08-05-2004, 04:54
"I'd be worried about is if Bin Laden got hold of nukes and dropped them on New York and Washington."


Comforting..... :? :? :? :shock:

Actually it is extremely plausable. There are many ready to go devices floating around since the USSR closed shop. Additionally there is a load of "unaccounted for" plutonium floating around. It is interesting to hear in security circles that they do not have the capacity for a full blown nuke, but the danger of a small, localized (relatively speaking) dirty bomb is easy enough to accomplish.

:shock:
Colodia
08-05-2004, 05:38
I don't personally think we have to much to worry about. With all the steps taken to prevent such acts now, it is doubtful they will be able to get past the airport security. And by then, all unidentified aircraft in the US will probably get shot down anyway! :shock:

I think our airport security is VERY shaky... if a college kid could get stuff past security to prove a point, we have a LOT of work to do to prevent another 9/11-esque attack.

As for doomsday scenarios, the thing I'd be worried about is if Bin Laden got hold of nukes and dropped them on New York and Washington.

I doubt the kid was bringing 5 men's worth of weapons
Slap Happy Lunatics
08-05-2004, 07:12
I don't personally think we have to much to worry about. With all the steps taken to prevent such acts now, it is doubtful they will be able to get past the airport security. And by then, all unidentified aircraft in the US will probably get shot down anyway! :shock:

I think our airport security is VERY shaky... if a college kid could get stuff past security to prove a point, we have a LOT of work to do to prevent another 9/11-esque attack.

As for doomsday scenarios, the thing I'd be worried about is if Bin Laden got hold of nukes and dropped them on New York and Washington.

I doubt the kid was bringing 5 men's worth of weapons

The kid is not the point. He is illustrative of how permeable security screening is. If he can do it what about an trained, determined group with deadly intent?

Never underestimate your enemy's ability or his determination. Soon after the 2-26-93 WTC attack our initial shock turned to derision. The WTC became a shining example of adequate security. Underground public parking was eliminated. The raised deck plates and balustrades were strong enough to stop a speeding truck. 'S' turns were added to the entries and exits. Heavy planters 10' in diameter and 4' deep formed a further deterrent at all other potential access points. State of the art lighting, ventilation and evacuation materials were installed on the interior. The enemy adapted tactics to render all these preparations irrelevant.

We go through airport security and they make a grand show of it all. Shoes are removed, objects are double checked, metal is detected, granny's nailfile and knitting needles are confiscated. The public is made to feel safe. But really we are far, far behind the curve.

You don't need to be Special Forces or an ex-con to know nylon monofilament garrotes, honed plastic cards or bag bottoms, toothbrushes with embedded safety razors, zippers, on and on and on are deadly weapons in trained determined hands. What will a pilot do when crew and passengers are being killed? Will he call in an airstrike or will he surrender his craft? Will a flight attendant be coerced into gaining access to the cockpit?

The government can't stop the flow of drugs into this country. That "war" has been going on since Richard Nixon declared in in 1971. The government can't even stop cons, in maximum security, from having weapons. Why should we trust that they have the airports, which are much less controlled than a prison, free from security lapses and breeches?

The fact is they can't.

:shock:
Colodia
08-05-2004, 07:15
War on Drugs =/= War on Terrorism

besides, we're dealing with us Colombians when it comes to drugs :wink:
Slap Happy Lunatics
08-05-2004, 07:41
War on Drugs =/= War on Terrorism

besides, we're dealing with us Colombians when it comes to drugs :wink:

Bureaucracy=layers of ass covering

ass covering=false appearance of management

false appearance of management=stagnation, inefficiency and waste

stagnation, inefficiency and waste=Incompetence

Yanno what I mean?

:shock:
Colodia
08-05-2004, 07:43
War on Drugs =/= War on Terrorism

besides, we're dealing with us Colombians when it comes to drugs :wink:

Bureaucracy=layers of ass covering

ass covering=false appearance of management

false appearance of management=stagnation, inefficiency and waste

stagnation, inefficiency and waste=Incompetence

Yanno what I mean?

:shock:


Me no speak-ehhh....deh Englisssss
Artoonia
08-05-2004, 07:47
Now where did I put that gas mask, my radiation suit and my duct tape?

You don't keep your duct tape within eyesight at all times? You're a much braver man than I (or perhaps, just less handy).
Philopolis
09-05-2004, 04:41
well,. I never accept anything without a sicentific basis and I reject the idea that the world will end in 2012, or whatever. besides, wasn't the mayan calendar used by priests? PRIESTS...nothing more to say :wink:
Berkylvania
09-05-2004, 04:42
well,. I never accept anything without a sicentific basis and I reject the idea that the world will end in 2012, or whatever. besides, wasn't the mayan calendar used by priests? PRIESTS...nothing more to say :wink:

And, to be fair, the Mayan's didn't exactly say what would happen, we just sort of infer that it's a doomsday event since the calender runs out.

I'm ignoring the priest comment because the last thing we need is to turn this into another religious free-for-all thread. :D
Selfstate
09-05-2004, 06:07
We have nothing to fear except nuclear war with Russia or China.

Even a small nuke wont do much damage in a modern urban city.