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Personally, I find the concept of good and evil horrible.

It justifies war and violence imho.

eg - Iraq is evil thus we must use violence to remove the evil from it. we are good guys. support us.

Are you talking in absolutes or relatives?

Iraq being 'evil' was not the main reason for going to war.

but the concept of evil (saddam is an evil dictator) was used to rally the country to get behind the government

NO.

I can't find an all emcompassing definition of "evil." The only thing i can think that is evil off the top of my head is the murder or injury of someone, consciously and with intention of receiving satisfaction.


The lines between the two commonly become gray....

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There is some absolute concept of good out there, I just know it . . . it is humanity's goal to find it; this is why we are always fighting

how about a smirk at the murder of baby? you don't think that's evil?

silly people.

how about a smirk at the murder of baby? you don't think that's evil?

silly people.

How about if the baby was going to grow up to be Hitler? Evil and good are both, unfortunately, relative.

how about a smirk at the murder of baby? you don't think that's evil?

silly people.

I laugh at abortions all the time.

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how about a smirk at the murder of baby? you don't think that's evil?

silly people.

murder of a baby as opposed to the murder of an adult? aren't we all human beings? why should age make a difference?

the action is that of hate. evil is something we use to justify hate and violence

Of course there's good and evil. Women with really big butts are good and governments are evil.

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I like big butts!

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Of course there's good and evil. Women with really big butts are good and governments are evil.

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"But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality."
Free your mind! (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html)
I like big butts!

http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/eddy_the_great/steatopygia.jpg

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You are an odd one, you know that?

Of course there's good and evil. Women with really big butts are good and governments are evil.

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"But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality."
Free your mind! (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html)
I like big butts!

http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/eddy_the_great/steatopygia.jpg

Finally. Clarity. :D

*sigh*

governments are evil...

you sound like you're using the same tactic governments use to justify their wars -- x is evil, so you must be in favor of evil if you favor x

on a smaller scale: whats "appropriate" and whats not -- skin, in our society, is inappropriate (upper arm, legs, buttocks). why? because it's associated with something "sexual." but why are we afraid of sex? because we're told so -- just another way to manipulate people.

if evil = 1
and good = .999~

than if
1/3 = .333~
2/3 = .666~
3/3 = .999~
AND
3/3 = 1!


It's proven, good = bad

Of course I believe in good and evil..while there may be indeed shades of grey...but both aspects.yes...of that I never had any doubt..when I see pictures of a man helping a dog out of a swollen river...or putting a pistol to a man's head with a smile on his face..oh yes...good and evil are abundant in man/woman.

Good and evil are purely imaginary. "Evil" is simply what one's culture condems. For example: cannibalism. In our (and almost all) cultures, cannibalism is considered an evil, ghastly ritual, something that should be considered only under the most extreme circumstances. However, cannibalism was once thought of as normal in many places, and there is considerable genetic evidence that it was actually performed by every race at some time or another (don't ask for names, I don't remember). Clearly, Evil, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.

Also, I am the greatest person in the world.

Of course there's good and evil. Women with really big butts are good and governments are evil.

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"But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality."
Free your mind! (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html)
I like big butts!

http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/eddy_the_great/steatopygia.jpg

What would happen if women with really big butts were running the government? Does government become good, or do the women become corrupt?

So why hasn't JayW gotten in on this one yet?
I have more but no time right now (hopefully reply before this link crashes and burns). Gotta go practice.

whatever good is, i sure as hell am not it.

What would happen if women with really big butts were running the government? Does government become good, or do the women become corrupt?

Now that's a good question.

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"But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality."
Free your mind! (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html)
I like big butts!

http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/eddy_the_great/steatopygia.jpg

Personally, I find the concept of good and evil horrible.

It justifies war and violence imho.

eg - Iraq is evil thus we must use violence to remove the evil from it. we are good guys. support us.
Who says Iraq is evil?
Who are the good guys?
How exactly does the concept of good and evil justify war and violence?

people it really comes down to Hobbes, Locke, or Rousseu ( think i am spelling it right). Basically i believe in Rousseu noble savage saying humans are born good and become corruted by sociciety. Unlike hobbes who says people are naturally evil and create a evil vile nasty brutish world and Locke who states tabula rossa, all people are blank slates and how they are rased determines how they act. The point the Rousseu was making is that your first natural instimct or your consciemce is that if in the woods and you see some one hurt you want to help them. Now it is society that corrupts you and makes you wonder if that person is decieving you are going to rob you.

also to the Iraq question it is not good and evil I personally think the war is a sham but it was not becuase he was evil or people think he was evil it was because all humans have certian rights to life and those rights must eb protected. Now I am not saying who should or if we wanted oil all I am saying is that people in Iraq have human rights and those should be protected as tghey should eb protected else where. Why we step in now and not for stalin or other dictaors is up to one self to decide.

of course theres evil, how else can you explain hitler, or mao, or pol pot. the list goes on. its a very real thing im afraid, but in this modern age i think we live in a grey area for the most part.

Personally, I find the concept of good and evil horrible.

It justifies war and violence imho.

eg - Iraq is evil thus we must use violence to remove the evil from it. we are good guys. support us.
Who says Iraq is evil?
Who are the good guys?
How exactly does the concept of good and evil justify war and violence?

1.) take a look at the news... we call saddam evil (axis of evil)
2.) exactly what i was trying to point out. we use "good" to get the support of other people
3.) we're good; you're evil -- we must "liberate" you by carpet bombing you

1. Cats are evil.
2. Cats exist.
3. Therefore, evil exists.

1. Panties are good.
2. Panties exist.
3. Therefore, good exists