NationStates Jolt Archive

Well it is interesting how we always hear about warmongering men and how we seek to solve everything with fists (not really a bad solution - I mean just look at Iraq and what a great job we are all doing).

But...

What about warmongering women?

Throughout history we have had some pretty awful female leaders that made men appear weak and who ruled quite forcefully:

1. Boudica
2. Cleopatra
3. Hatshepsut
4. Queen Mary
5. Agrippina the elder and younger

(any more just mention them - no Thatcher doesn't count because she doesn't qualify a a warmongering woman)

I wonder if there are any or will be any more women who cause trouble (nagging houswives excluded :wink: ) for society. I wonder if women could possibly lead us into a third world war?

Is the modern woman capable of war...or are women today too feminised and adverse to violence?

I think that the sheer force in which menopause comes in, they would have enough strength to take down al-Qaeda.... ;)

I disagree with you about Thatcher....

She waged war to win an election. Was very pro 'peace through firepower' as well...

as long as she's hot :wink:

"Could there ever be a modern totalitarian state under a woman?"

Just ask most boyfriends! :P

Interestingly many of the Americans posing with their Iraqi friends in the recent prison photos are women. I wonder if they can use PMS as an excuse in military court...

Of course there can be. And there will be. I am sure of that.

PMS is a powerful ally... and a powerful enemy. For both parties involved.

Sure there can be just elect Hillary and see. :lol:

Sure there can be just elect Hillary and see. :lol:

Dang, you beat me to it.

Sure there can be just elect Hillary and see. :lol:

Dang, you beat me to it.
Hillary's going to run and win in 2008, I'll bet on it..

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Sure there can be just elect Hillary and see. :lol:

Dang, you beat me to it.
Hillary's going to run and win in 2008, I'll bet on it..What is really scary is she is one Democrat that I would even consider voting for. More than I can say for any of the males they have offered in the 28 years (since I have been old enough to vote).

Depends on where they become dictator of. :P

I disagree with you about Thatcher....

She waged war to win an election. Was very pro 'peace through firepower' as well...

Wrong. She didn't start the war, Argentine did. Maggie just won it.

Go read a history book!

:twisted:

Catherine the Great, The Dowager Empress of China, "Bloody Mary" and her successor Elizabeth 1 of England, all come to find fairly easily.

I don't doubt that women can be as oppressive as men.

Golda Meir, Margaret Thatcher, Indira Ghandi were thrown up by democratic processes, but IMHO were disasters for their nations.

Winni Mandela was pretty violent, too.

Margaret Thatcher, Indira Gandhi, Golda Meir all come to mind.

A woman ruler would be refreshing and fairly interesting i'm sure. She had better be an upbeat funky woman who sees why we shouldn't have to pay v.a.t on sanitary products, and legalise abortion in all states (birth rate will decline-nae unprepared, unwanting child-mothers).
I also reckon wifies around the world would feel a lot safer with a female president, though we would probably get more pissed off if she did something 'wrong' (invading/colonating countries, wasting billions on shiny tanks and T.N.T, ecetera), being the first representative of the female race in the most powerful position on Earth.
Any sane woman in the presidency who does not believe herself to be the Terminator will hold more of my trust than any blokes i've seen standing on the box in my lifetime.

:twisted: :twisted: ..PREPARE FOR 'XX' DOMINATION.. :twisted: :twisted:

Thatcher...woman :lol: Sorry.

"Could there ever be a modern totalitarian state under a woman?"

Just ask most boyfriends! :P
I was a totalitarian dictator with my ex-boyfriend, now I'm a docile reformed Liberal with my new one... He tamed me...rowr!

Women are ruthless enough without giving them political power. I say eliminate sufferage and return the world to peace! :wink:


Like that one Steph?

I doubt any women would... ;)

:lol: trying to get a reaction is all. :oops:

:lol: trying to get a reaction is all. :oops:
Not at this time of day; all the fish who bite the flamebaits are out and you're left with the night owls like me who are still up and going strong and haven't had a cup of coffee yet....

Iiiiiff you're happy and you know it...wear a dress...and pretend you're Margaret Thatcher!

That's what he does.

Iiiiiff you're happy and you know it...wear a dress...and pretend you're Margaret Thatcher!

That's what he does.

*falls over laughing hysterically*

Charlotte Church in Wales from 1998 to 2002.

She oppressed all the socialist idiots. :twisted:

Stephistan would make a good dictatress :shock:

1. Boudica
2. Cleopatra
3. Hatshepsut
4. Queen Mary
5. Agrippina the elder and younger


Er, Agrippina the elder? Wasn't she wife of Germanicus and therefore never even an empress? Apologies, my knowledge is somewhat flavoured by I, Claudius, but I'm pretty sure only one Agrippina acted as a dictator.

There have been many female 'powers behind the throne'; Messalina springs to mind.

Also - Catherine the Great of Russia should be in the list.

Where's Queen Victoria of England on the list?

Victoria was the Head of State of a vast empire, but she didn't control it; she wasn't a dictator.

Nor was the British Empire, let alone the UK, totalitarian.

1. Boudica
2. Cleopatra
3. Hatshepsut
4. Queen Mary
5. Agrippina the elder and younger


Er, Agrippina the elder? Wasn't she wife of Germanicus and therefore never even an empress? Apologies, my knowledge is somewhat flavoured by I, Claudius, but I'm pretty sure only one Agrippina acted as a dictator.

There have been many female 'powers behind the throne'; Messalina springs to mind.

Also - Catherine the Great of Russia should be in the list.

Germanicus was heir to the throne at one stage and his wife exerted immense influence.

Yes Messalina was rather nasty...don't forget Poppea either.

And then there is Helen Clarke...PM of New Zealand :lol: :lol: :lol: