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*** As everything i write this may offend so of you so dont read if you easily offended***

Obesity. What is Obesity some of you may ask. Well the technical term is:

Pronunciation: O-'bEs
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin obesus, from ob- against + esus, past participle of edere to eat -- more at OB-, EAT
: excessively fat

Now for any of you outside the united states I forget how many but a huge number of americans 'suffer' from obesity. For those of you who do live in america and watch our poor excuse for a news program (except Jon Stewart the only good one out there) then you have heard 'suffering from obesity' every day it makes it sound like something you can catch like a cold. (its like d*** i cant come to school/work today i caught a bad case of obesity). You have also heard a fat guy go 'i ate mcdonalds and its there fault im fat'. I am tired of fat people blaming their non existing sex-life their lack of social skills and all of the bad things assoicted with obecity such as a bad heart and a bunch of health problems on fast food or other things they cant control. What you couldnt notice you were putting on a few pounds so you just kept on eating those fat soaked fries. I am here to present one simple fact ITS YOUR FAULT YOU FAT!!!! EXCEPT IT!!! does this irritate you as much as me?

to be obese don't you have to weigh like 300+ lbs? i don't know how people get that big. that's more than two of me...

aye, it does.

You Have to weigh 20 percent above your desired body weight to be obese.

And in no case should that be allowed!... Unless they have a gland problem or something....

we dont like obesity. its gross. go exercise!!!

You Have to weigh 20 percent above your desired body weight to be obese.

And in no case should that be allowed!... Unless they have a gland problem or something....

I'm pretty heavy, but if my 'desired' body wieght is 400 punds, does that mean I'm not obese?

You Have to weigh 20 percent above your desired body weight to be obese.

And in no case should that be allowed!... Unless they have a gland problem or something....

I'm pretty heavy, but if my 'desired' body wieght is 400 punds, does that mean I'm not obese? Desired body weight is what's the perfect weight compared to your body type/height/other things... For example, my perfect weight is 130 ....I'd have to be 156 to be technically called obese.

I double posted....
tee hee...

Check your bmi. Judging by my age and height I should weigh in at 165 I weigh in about 160 so I'm healthy though at one point I was obese I started eating better and excercising more and now maintain however I am not annoyed by obese people really unless they are affecting me in some way which is rare usaully I have no problem I just feel bad for them being fat sucks

For those who do things like sue McDonalds because they're overweight, yes, exercise more and stop eating those french fries...but there are also others who are larger than what society accepts because of genetics. I don't think it's fair to those people.

The BMI ranges for healthy weight is like 18.5 to 24 or something...I'm 21...? But yeah, here's a site where you can find yours out...

http://nhlbisupport.com/bmi/bmicalc.htm

Anyway, my point is that for everyone, it's not always their fault.

we dont like obesity. its gross. go exercise!!!

I do! I didn't exercise for three months and I gained 20 pounds...! Ugh! I'm being good and exercising again.

I made a topic seeing how many ways we Americans can get fat

I made it up to 19 ways, I think 5 ways alone were birth-related

I made a topic seeing how many ways we Americans can get fat

I made it up to 19 ways, I think 5 ways alone were birth-related

link? Sounds in a strange perverted way...interesting...

I made a topic seeing how many ways we Americans can get fat

I made it up to 19 ways, I think 5 ways alone were birth-related

link? Sounds in a strange perverted way...interesting...

I really dont have the time to search through a bunch of pages of my history to find it, sorry

I made a topic seeing how many ways we Americans can get fat

I made it up to 19 ways, I think 5 ways alone were birth-related

link? Sounds in a strange perverted way...interesting...

I really dont have the time to search through a bunch of pages of my history to find it, sorry

...AW!! Then, maybe we should start a new one!

I made a topic seeing how many ways we Americans can get fat

I made it up to 19 ways, I think 5 ways alone were birth-related

link? Sounds in a strange perverted way...interesting...

I really dont have the time to search through a bunch of pages of my history to find it, sorry

...AW!! Then, maybe we should start a new one!

screw it. I got one minute to bump it up

Yipee!!

For statistical pupposes they figure obese to be 30 pounds or more overweight (which is pretty close to the 20% figure for the average person). Given that definition, about 2/3 of America qualifies. Thats why the diet industry is so big. They prey upon the laziness of the average American, who is looking for a magic pill or effortless way to drop that extra baggage. In truth the only way is excercise. I'm 43 and eat whatever I want and maintain my 23 BMI easily, simply because I excercise and keep an active lifestyle. All you got to do is get your heartrate up to 140 bpm for an hour a day. You don't even have to do it all at once, you can do two 30 minute sessions or three 20 minute.......

it irks me that people, who have been going to for the past 10 years, ordering the fatiest thing on the menu, and eating it for all 3 meal, sue the fast food restaurants they went to for getting them fat. WTF is up with that?

it irks me that people, who have been going to for the past 10 years, ordering the fatiest thing on the menu, and eating it for all 3 meal, sue the fast food restaurants they went to for getting them fat. WTF is up with that?

They are too cheap to buy better things...

But, it's not only that but the combination of carbs and protien isn't always a good thing. Why do you thing vegetarians are so slim? They don't eat a lot of protien... (for example)
[edit -- sorry, I had meant to say protien, not carbs....]

Found it, page 29 of my history :?
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=128585&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

I don't eat fast food or junk food or much soda and I work out alot and spend time outdoors alot. I am sevent day adventist but still eat meat (beef chicken fish but no pork) I'm one of those slim veggie people but I still eat the meat :D yummie! And I love my fresh baked bread wheat yum.

it irks me that people, who have been going to for the past 10 years, ordering the fatiest thing on the menu, and eating it for all 3 meal, sue the fast food restaurants they went to for getting them fat. WTF is up with that?

They are too cheap to buy better things...

But, it's not only that but the combination of carbs and protien isn't always a good thing. Why do you thing vegetarians are so slim? They don't eat a lot of carbs... (for example)
Vegetarians don't eat a lot of carbs? Perhaps you're thinking vegan. My friend who is a vegetarian only eats carbs. Bread, cereal, and potatoes. Period. She's gonna die before she hits 23. (she is still very slim, incidentally)
Anyway, as it's been said, there are some people who are overweight due to gene problems and nothing else, and probably a handful of people are obese due only to gene problems- but the vast majority are obese because they eat a lot and they don't eat healthily. My boyfriend is overweight (though not obese) for that reason- but I'm trying to get him in shape...It'll be easier next year when we're not on meal plan- and even easier when he has to eat what I cook for him BWAHAHAHA...I'm not gonna have any fat children... (man, that sounds mean....it's not supposed to- if my kid has a gland problem I'll still love him, but he's definitely gonna eat his veggies)

EDIT: cook...I said cook...

dp

Many disgusting, gluttonous obese people beg off on the genetics card.
Often friends of mine have related how frustrating this is to them, especially when proper eating habits and exercise, merely on a stricter regimen, tend to help even the most disadvantaged.
Personally, i merely accept it as a valid argument, and as the best reason for simply executing the stupid porkers. With overpopulation rampant, and projection graphs looking even grimmer, the gene pool could use some chlorine. Chalk one up for the best and brightest, kids.
Often too, people claim psychological reasons for their weight problem. (Again, see the social darwinsim answer) The common response to that is that obesity tends to compound feelings of worthlessness and inferiority, often inciting either learned helplessness or defensive belligerence in the face of their problems. After long thought, all i can suggest is the usual healthy ways of responding to psychological crisis: channel your negativity in a positive manner. Get a punching bag; maybe you'll burn some of the Big Mac you ate, the caloric content of which should sate you for a full day; but lucky for you, Mc Donalds gave you the "health conscious" option, and you chose the Diet Coke. Enjoy aspartame-induced cancer in later life. It should complicate that sling assembly you're going to need to get off the special needs bed to the toilet. Or why not take up rock climbing, like i used to? i was once a small, skinny, undersized wuss; but i applied my own weight to my underused, noodly arms and chest; and now i sport a healthy, athletic build! If my measly ninety-five pounds can do so much for my dessicated flesh, imagine what your apocalyptic bulk could do for you! If you could hang your water-fat bag of flesh from your corpulent arms and torso, imagine the incredible mass and tone you could generate! Even something as general and mundane as aerobics would help! Just remember to drink plenty of heavily salted water if you're going to do serious cardiovascular work. It helps absorb that "water retention" you keep telling your coworkers about at the office barbecues, as you pile the hot dogs on your plate, and only rarely leads to dehydration and heatstroke.
i'm glad my humble nutritional advice could be a service to those of you in need. i hope to see the new, sexy, trim you this summer! It should be a refreshing change from the old, flabby, pasty you that somehow wedged itself into that all-but illegal swimwear.

Pietas, Fidelis, Gloria,
The Lord God-Emperor of Chaosmanglemaimdeathia.

Im a Brit and I just found out on another thread that the US gallon is smaller than the British one (4.5L British vs 3.8?L US) so do you still measure the weights the same or do you have different measurements for that too?

I weigh approx 80kg (approx because I hate the metric system, and the French)

In real measurements I currently weigh 12St 8lbs = 176lbs.

My ideal body weight is 10st 7lbs = 147lbs which makes me just on the borderline of obesity.

Why? Not genetics! I like good food, I have an office job and sit around all day and when I get home at the end of the day I am too tired/lazy to do excercise......till now.

For the last 5 weeks I have been going to the gym every morning and eating a calorie controlled diet in order to reach that ideal weight.

I think it is just a case of getting in a routine. Once it becomes routine to be dropped off at the gym at 0630 every morning and do a workout five days a week then it is easy.

In case you are wondering I started off at 13st 5lbs (definetely obese).

:twisted:
The Tyrant of Jeem (aka Magneto)
Patron Saint, Robert the Befuddled

Apparently my BMI used to be 23. Then I excercised for a few months and it went up to 26, indicating that I'm now overweight.

Course if I slim down again, I probably won't be able to bench more than my own body weight anymore. Guess I'll just remain one of America's overweight citizens.

On that note, I have to wonder if body builders are being included in the obesity statistics.

Interesting note: Towards the end of my 12 years in the US I weighed about 20 kg too much. Then I moved back to my homeland Sweden and a year later I had a nice BMI of 23 (and still do). Go figure.

Ah, the increase is from muscle...

I am only annoyed by obesity if the person in question complains about it. It's self-inflicted. Deal with it.

I am only annoyed by obesity if the person in question complains about it. It's self-inflicted. Deal with it.
If it's not... Sometiems, it's a side affect of medicine and the medical condition.

It's very relative. Technically, I'm obese. I weigh 250 lbs. and I'm 6'0". But I'm in better shape than alot of people who weigh 50 lbs. less than me. I run 2 miles a day and I go to the gym every night. I'm a powerlifter. So, obviously, I have to weigh alot. But I'm not obese in the traditional sense of the word. So you can figure that there are plenty of people that are included in that "2/3 of Americans are obese" statistic that are like me. Like I said, it's all relative.

Oh, I agree. I'm onverweight, but only a small part of it is real fat (that crap on my stomach that I just can't get rid of...) the rest is muscle from working out.

Oh, I agree. I'm overweight, but only a small part of it is real fat (that crap on my stomach that I just can't get rid of...) the rest is muscle from working out.

Oh, I agree. I'm overweight, but only a small part of it is real fat (that crap on my stomach that I just can't get rid of...) the rest is muscle from working out.

Well, if you work on your abdominal exercises, you can get rid of that. But it depends on what kind of workout routine you have. Me, I have a low-rep, high-weight workout that streses multiple exercises for each muscle group. My workouts can last 3 hours. As a result, I get exhausted. It may not seem it, but when you're getting towards those last few sets in your routine, your body is drawing upon your fat reserves for energy to make it through. If you didn't have adequate fat reserves, your body would start burning muscle to make it through, quite counterproductive. That's just me. I need to have a little fat (my gut and between my ears :) ) in order to perform my routine.

Ab work does not remove the spare tire: diet, and aerobic exercise does.

I'm supposed to weigh 120 and I wigh about 125....

i don't mind when people are carrying a few extra pound, i know i am. but i really mind when i see actual obesity; that's just disgusting, to bury a good body under unhealthy habits and laziness, in the form of rolls of flub.

my mom, who i love dearly and respect more than just about anybody ever, is seriously overweight. for years we had arguments about it, because it would interfere with her life and stop her from doing things she wanted. she couldn't come on a rafting trip with me because of her weight. she couldn't fit comfortably into airline seats. she couldn't come swimming with me because she wouldn't wear a swimsuit. yet she was eating HORRIBLE foods, putting soul cream on everything, eating chips all the time, and taking tripple portions at almost every meal. she wouldn't exercise and she was having health problems.

about a year and a half ago something changed. i don't know what it was, since i have been away at school, but when i came home she was totally making over her life. no crazy diets, no radical exercise changes, just slowly and carefully making over her lifestyle. she was changing what she ate and when, and was finding small ways to exercise, like taking the stairs instead of an escalator. that's how it has to work; you can't just go on a diet because eventually you will go off it. you can't just start some crazy intense work out routine, because you'll never be able to stick to it. you have to find a way to really LIVE healthy, if you ever want to be healthy.

I hate that some people don't care about their bodies and yet are healthier then me and I try to keep fit. They make me hate people in general because they are ingrateful for nature has given them! I told this to someone I was close to when I was feeling hurt once... I was born differently abled than others -- no, no visible handicap, but, let ie suffice to say that at 21 years old, I have a kidney disease and I secretly hate my friends who are overweight because they are othwise perfectly healthy.

to a small minority it's a genetic deformity, just like giantism. It's not their fault.

To the other 98% of the US population.

GET OFF YOUR @SS AND DO SOMETHING!


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"Everyone, please, bow your heads, and pretend to be serious."

to a small minority it's a genetic deformity, just like giantism. It's not their fault.



Oh, who are you kidding?

Pietas, Fidelis, Gloria,
Chaosmanglemaimdeathia

*** As everything i write this may offend so of you so dont read if you easily offended***

Obesity. What is Obesity some of you may ask. Well the technical term is:

Pronunciation: O-'bEs
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin obesus, from ob- against + esus, past participle of edere to eat -- more at OB-, EAT
: excessively fat

Now for any of you outside the united states I forget how many but a huge number of americans 'suffer' from obesity. For those of you who do live in america and watch our poor excuse for a news program (except Jon Stewart the only good one out there) then you have heard 'suffering from obesity' every day it makes it sound like something you can catch like a cold. (its like d*** i cant come to school/work today i caught a bad case of obesity). You have also heard a fat guy go 'i ate mcdonalds and its there fault im fat'. I am tired of fat people blaming their non existing sex-life their lack of social skills and all of the bad things assoicted with obecity such as a bad heart and a bunch of health problems on fast food or other things they cant control. What you couldnt notice you were putting on a few pounds so you just kept on eating those fat soaked fries. I am here to present one simple fact ITS YOUR FAULT YOU FAT!!!! EXCEPT IT!!! does this irritate you as much as me?

Not nearly as much as badspellers and otherwise butcherers of the English language do... (yeah, you with the EXCEPT IT...that's ACCEPT it, right?)

Many disgusting, gluttonous obese people beg off on the genetics card.
Often friends of mine have related how frustrating this is to them, especially when proper eating habits and exercise, merely on a stricter regimen, tend to help even the most disadvantaged.
Personally, i merely accept it as a valid argument, and as the best reason for simply executing the stupid porkers. With overpopulation rampant, and projection graphs looking even grimmer, the gene pool could use some chlorine.

You disgust me. As a collegiate distance runner, I'm not someone you would think has ever dealt with this issue...but I have. In elementary school and through the beginning of sixth grade, I was very overweight. I suppose it was because I ate too much and stayed indoors reading instead of exercising. Whatever it was, IT SUCKED. Fortunately, as I am living proof of, obesity is not permanent. So yeah, there goes your argument about (the now debunked) social darwinism, douchebag. Here's one former fatty that could run 5 miles before you could huff your way to the local Dairy Queen. Shut up
PS Social darwinism, eugenics, naziism--all similar and all definitely not cool

Hmmm, I visited this thread because obesity has been getting a lot of attention in British politics recently and it's really started to bug me so I wanted to let off some steam, in some anti-obesity monologue. As it happens this thread seems to have attracted a lot of extreme views and mine would have been very moderate by comparison, defeating the object. I guess I'll just quietly withdraw back to the sidelines.

I'm obese, health-wise, and the idea of it motivates me to start doing something about it. It's a personal problem, not a pandemic as some state.

I should just move to France. There, only 9% of the population is overweight/obese.

BTW I'm about 6' and weigh 150 lbs, so I'm not overweight/obese

Oh goody. Look how fcukin' happy, how utterly overjoyed we all are at yet another group of people we can LAUGH AT and HATE.

Gee, we can't be racist anymore, sexism & homophobia are uncool, so all the LOSERS in the world who *need* to have some class of person to kick around to inflate their sad little egos are now targetting the obese. WTF have these people ever done to you?

I'll bet every one of you has a family member or neighbour or teacher whom you like very much who happens to be fat. How would they feel if they knew how hateful, disgusting and laughable you secretly think they are?

Most of you who've posted on this thread should be *ashamed* of yourselves for your joy in stomping on others - even if that's only through words you're contributing to hatred.

Yes, I'm fat. Through diet & exercise I've lost 80 lbs and I'll bet I'm in better health than most of you. I'm also happily married - how many of you are? So get fcuked you heartless bastards :x

Wow, this thread is turning nastier than a Gay Marriage/Iraq War combo thread. :cry:

My BMI is 26, I need to lose a good 15 pounds. I don't look fat at all though. This summer is going to be workout heaven though

Oh goody. Look how fcukin' happy, how utterly overjoyed we all are at yet another group of people we can LAUGH AT and HATE.

Gee, we can't be racist anymore, sexism & homophobia are uncool, so all the LOSERS in the world who *need* to have some class of person to kick around to inflate their sad little egos are now targetting the obese. WTF have these people ever done to you?

I'll bet every one of you has a family member or neighbour or teacher whom you like very much who happens to be fat. How would they feel if they knew how hateful, disgusting and laughable you secretly think they are?

Most of you who've posted on this thread should be *ashamed* of yourselves for your joy in stomping on others - even if that's only through words you're contributing to hatred.

Yes, I'm fat. Through diet & exercise I've lost 80 lbs and I'll bet I'm in better health than most of you. I'm also happily married - how many of you are? So get fcuked you heartless bastards :x

Cry me a river.

Whiner.

Wow, this thread is turning nastier than a Gay Marriage/Iraq War combo thread. :cry:

Well, by far the nastiest stuff was written long before I showed up here. And don't you think a fat person would be justifiably enraged at what's been said? Go back and read some of it.

If you are fat, it is your fault. You can rectify your fatness, by dieting and exercise, something which I am doing to become slim.

End of friggin story.

First off,

http://nhlbisupport.com/bmi/bmicalc.htm

Stupidest site ever.
According to it, I should be 160lbs to be at 22% Body Fat.
What a crock of sh*t.

It does not take into account Age, muscle mass, and density. Never, ever base your obiestity on those online calculators, goto the gym and do it yourself.

According to that site I am 28% body fat. Well according to my own Body Fat analysis from Weight Training, I am 18% Body Fat. I play Rugby, I have alot of Muscle Mass, meaning more weight. So I can be short and heavy, doesn't mean Im fat though.

Oh and about this Aspertain in Diet Coke business.. yeah you drink about 3 gallons a day, of pure Aspertain and you'll get Cancer. Not a can or two of it mixed in with coke or pepsi. However, it will convince your body that you are not full, and you will continue to eat, paste your regular hunger.

Wow, this thread is turning nastier than a Gay Marriage/Iraq War combo thread. :cry:

Well, by far the nastiest stuff was written long before I showed up here. And don't you think a fat person would be justifiably enraged at what's been said? Go back and read some of it.

I did read it. People are cruel, it's sad but true. I try to ignore it and believe better about folks, but threads like this make me wonder.

Congratulations on losing those 80 lbs. Good for you. In a way, being overweight can be as hard to "kick" as any addiction.

Cry me a river.

Whiner.

...

If you are fat, it is your fault. You can rectify your fatness, by dieting and exercise, something which I am doing to become slim.

End of friggin story.

Hmm, well, yes, you can lose the weight, but what about an ugly personality? You're pretty much stuck with that. :roll:

If you are fat, it is your fault. You can rectify your fatness, by dieting and exercise, something which I am doing to become slim.

End of friggin story.

Of course being fat was my fault; did I say it wasn't? And I am working on solving the problem with great success.

But nobody of any body size or lifestyle deserves to be treated like s**t and hated for it. Hatred & intolerance are a thousand times more gross and ugly than any body shape is.

To be a mature & decent person means you accept & respect everybody no matter what they look like. Right?

What's wrong with fat people? You take up too much space. You wanna be fat, it affects everyone else. Planes are small enough without sitting next to your overlapping self. They have seats in the movie theater that are like 2-3 times as big as normal. Why... people making out??? NOOO Fat people. And props to the person who made fun of the fat people blaming restaurants. Stop super sizing the triple supersized food and walk around instead of sitting. Your mamma didn't pop you out like that, no way you should be. And for the fat women...if you've got rolls or a gut, the only skin that should be showing is your face, and even that could be too much. (excludes people with REAL medical problems, like thyroid)

DIET people, try it!

What's wrong with fat people? You take up too much space. You wanna be fat, it affects everyone else. Planes are small enough without sitting next to your overlapping self. They have seats in the movie theater that are like 2-3 times as big as normal. Why... people making out??? NOOO Fat people. And props to the person who made fun of the fat people blaming restaurants. Stop super sizing the triple supersized food and walk around instead of sitting. Your mamma didn't pop you out like that, no way you should be. And for the fat women...if you've got rolls or a gut, the only skin that should be showing is your face, and even that could be too much. (excludes people with REAL medical problems, like thyroid)

DIET people, try it!

Ladies and gentlemen of NationStates, please join me in a round of applause for Richard Simmons. You can buy copies of his videotapes in the lobby!

If you are fat, it is your fault. You can rectify your fatness, by dieting and exercise, something which I am doing to become slim.

End of friggin story.

Of course being fat was my fault; did I say it wasn't? And I am working on solving the problem with great success.

But nobody of any body size or lifestyle deserves to be treated like s**t and hated for it. Hatred & intolerance are a thousand times more gross and ugly than any body shape is.

To be a mature & decent person means you accept & respect everybody no matter what they look like. Right?

I don't hate fat people, I never said that. I just hate ones that refuse to take responsibility for their body and blame in on McDonald's or "genetics". It doesn't just apply to fat people, for basically anyone.

Obesity is something that took The Atheists Realty completely by surprise...