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I'm tired of political correctnesse

Vampires of Death
07-05-2004, 05:53
***Warning some of what im about to write may be offencive***
(yes i do realize the incredible irony of writing a warning in front of a anti-politicial correctness speech but i do not wish to have a lawsuit or get this taken off the forum)
Political correctnoise began as a pity to the minorities in order to make them feel just as good (or as in many cases bad) as the majority and not be verbally discriminated against if only on a sub-conciouse level. Now at first only politicians (to atract and appeal to everyone minority and majority) used political correctnouse. Then one or two people that you know, the ones that like to be nice and kind, started using it as a way to be polit. Then from one or two people it became three or four, then five or six, and so on until the one or two that did not use politicla correctnouse were considered rude, uncarring, and racist even though many werent. Now for those of u that dont know or havent noticed this change i will elaberate. (if u have noticed and wish to read less skip the next paragraph)

Police man became police person or police woman. Mankind became (different things for different people). Stewardess became steward. N*****(and for those of u who dont know its the derogitory term for a man of african origan) became black which then became african-american (even though by then most of the people who merrit this title have never been to Africa or even find their tribes land on a map). Buisnessman became buisness person. The list goes on this is just some of the examples I can think of at ten at night and a caffine low.

Now this is rediculouse everywhere i go i run into this and im tired of it because its just so pointless and now most of those minorities have become majorities. Take my poll and tell me if ur sick of this to?
Janathoras
07-05-2004, 05:57
Hehehee, I agree with you on the general principle.

I'm fat, or at least plump - should I be called "slightly gravtitationally challenged"? :D
Philopolis
07-05-2004, 05:59
I am a mexican,french,dutch,german (and other nationalities i'm not sure I am) -american
Vampires of Death
07-05-2004, 05:59
again this is gonna hurt. I think you should be called plump and for asking that questian you should be called lardo but today people wil lcall you something like suffering from early stages of obesity. BTW thanks for giving me my next topic to talk about.
Demonic Furbies
07-05-2004, 06:00
correctness of anything, just about, is really outdated. so long as it is close enough, people get the idea. like spelling. i cannot spell to save my life, but my point gets accross well enough.
Kryozerkia
07-05-2004, 06:03
I think political correctness has gone too far. It should protect against discrimination, but, if someone is, for example "fat" or "handicapped"; included but not limited to... that is totally different because those words aren't offensive, unless the person is VERY sensitive; even then they are not by any means derogatory like many others are...
Vitania
07-05-2004, 06:04
I found this great site explaining the origins of political correctness:

http://individual.utoronto.ca/alexander/pc/
Philopolis
07-05-2004, 06:07
you know what else I get tired of? when ever a kid is depressed or something, the doctors always have to pull a disorder out of their arse. it happened to me, when I was 11 I was put on some pills that really f**ked me up. I gained weight, lost sleep, slept all the time etc. I even slept through classes.
07-05-2004, 06:07
In general, political correctness is about not offending anyone. As such, I'm in favor.

It doesn't hurt me a bit to change which term I use for someone, and I'm gratified when they'll do the same for me. And it just makes sense, when you're talking about someone, not to call them something they don't want to be called. Unless you're TRYING to make them mad.

Some people go a bit overboard, but honestly I'm somewhat on their side as well... It really doesn't negatively impact my life in any way to be careful with my words.
Kryozerkia
07-05-2004, 06:09
I found this great site explaining the origins of political correctness:

http://individual.utoronto.ca/alexander/pc/

WOW! :shock: this is a good site! ;) and not just because it;s at U of T, but because it presents the concept in a concise manner, while still giving enough information at the same time.
07-05-2004, 06:12
I don't like being told what I can and cannot say. The majority of these morons that advocate political-correctness atevery turn need to be executed for the sake of the gene pool. Well, many at least need a severe beating.
Jeem
07-05-2004, 11:15
I am a mexican,french,dutch,german (and other nationalities i'm not sure I am) -american

I cannot understand why americans do this! You are american, you have an american passport or would be eligable for one, you were born in america and raised in america and yet you say things like im a german-american. (not you Philopolis, but generic exampleman)

Why? Unless you have dual nationality you are not an italian-american, just an american!

You have no claim on italy, germany, france or any of the old countries that your ancestors came from. You left those countries through choice and can no longer claim a connection.

Embrace your american identity and get off this ridicoulous labelling craze that you seem to have.

Nothing personal but it just gets me irritated to hear people say they are irish-american in a loud american accent with no knowledge or understanding of the "old country" except what they can find in books or other media. Get a life!

:twisted:
Jay W
07-05-2004, 11:28
***Warning some of what im about to write may be offencive***
(yes i do realize the incredible irony of writing a warning in front of a anti-politicial correctness speech but i do not wish to have a lawsuit or get this taken off the forum)
Political correctnoise began as a pity to the minorities in order to make them feel just as good (or as in many cases bad) as the majority and not be verbally discriminated against if only on a sub-conciouse level. Now at first only politicians (to atract and appeal to everyone minority and majority) used political correctnouse. Then one or two people that you know, the ones that like to be nice and kind, started using it as a way to be polit. Then from one or two people it became three or four, then five or six, and so on until the one or two that did not use politicla correctnouse were considered rude, uncarring, and racist even though many werent. Now for those of u that dont know or havent noticed this change i will elaberate. (if u have noticed and wish to read less skip the next paragraph)

Police man became police person or police woman. Mankind became (different things for different people). Stewardess became steward. N*****(and for those of u who dont know its the derogitory term for a man of african origan) became black which then became african-american (even though by then most of the people who merrit this title have never been to Africa or even find their tribes land on a map). Buisnessman became buisness person. The list goes on this is just some of the examples I can think of at ten at night and a caffine low.

Now this is rediculouse everywhere i go i run into this and im tired of it because its just so pointless and now most of those minorities have become majorities. Take my poll and tell me if ur sick of this to?So what should we call a person who can't spell? Alphabetically Challenged?
Kryozerkia
07-05-2004, 12:52
So what should we call a person who can't spell? Alphabetically Challenged?
In this case, a self-righteous raving fanatical n00b. ;)
Upper Orwellia
07-05-2004, 12:57
So what should we call a person who can't spell? Alphabetically Challenged?

Stupid, lazy, or dyslexic. It doesn't take much effort to use a spellchecker, so someone who doesn't use one either doesn't know how to, can't be bothered to, or doesn't see the problem. Dylsexic people rock by the way, and tend to have a good sense of humour. And as for all the typos I make, well I admit I'm too lazy to install a British spellchecker...

People's thoughts and all of our communication is constrained by our language. When our only word for an African-American is n***** then this puts ideas into people's minds which shouldn't necessarily be there. Black might be a more useful term, but that's not as descriptive, and can you use black to describe an Irish person? (Over here we have several "white" people attending anti-racism groups who identify as Irish, because the Irish still face prejudice over here.)

Political correctness is just a way of neutralising the worst parts of a language. As soon as I start calling all teenagers destructive druggy spongers then people tend to get offended. As soon as I call them young people I've established that I think that they're people, and I've also described them too. I always preferred to be called "Young person" to "Teenager", and now I'm a student I still prefer it. A lot of people see students as even more wasteful than teenagers, but then most people haven't been a student in the past decade or so.

Anyway, Vamps of Death, would you rather be called:
"A stupid*, hateful and incoherent bigot" or
"A person with a different opinion."?

Both statements are denfensible, but the second one overlooks the bad spelling, for example, and gives you just as much space to develop your point as anyone else. The first one insults and ridicules you before you have a chance to reply, and this tends to get a counter-productive response. The point is that you should be on the receiving end of political incorrectness quite a bit before you think about slamming political correctness. If you honestly do prefer the first version, as it gives you the right to do the same, then that's fair enough. However, the second version tends to get you more friends, and achieve more on a day to day basis.

Remember that everything you think and do is constrained by your language, and try to change that!

Aidan

(* See the bit above about being stupid, lazy or dyslexic, and if I got it wrong then I apologise)
Clappi
07-05-2004, 13:17
Ah, they plaintive cry of the white male!

"I'm sick of political correctness!"

which means,

"I want to be offensive about other people without becoming a social leper and/or getting beaten up!"

If you want to say something, say it: just don't whine about the likely consequences.
07-05-2004, 13:36
Watch out. The PC posse will be after you.
>_>
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They ride in unexpectedly and try to get everyone to conform to their language. It first started as crippled, then the PC posse came along and started calling them handicapped, now some people are starting to use handicapable. But the posse is wrong. If you have an injured or missing limb that inhibits your ability to do stuff that you otherwise could do, you’re a cripple. It’s as simple as that.

Being a cripple however is a specific term. Handicapped is a more general term and can be used for any disability. Some people don’t like to be reminded of their specific disability. In this case I do have some advice for you. Instead of avoiding it, deal with it. Know your limitations and find a way to work around situations. If you give up and just try to live off of disability benefits, than I have no sympathy for you. Most demons detest those who try to live off of free handouts and will treat you most cruelly when you cross over.
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Out of all the demons in this world, none is more frightening than man.
And yes, I am a Demon bent on torturing souls and frightening little children.
Garpland
07-05-2004, 13:36
I found this great site explaining the origins of political correctness:

http://individual.utoronto.ca/alexander/pc/

WOW! :shock: this is a good site! ;) and not just because it;s at U of T, but because it presents the concept in a concise manner, while still giving enough information at the same time.

Er, no, it's a one-sided fact-free collection of nonsense statements of the "PC = Communism" variety that presents weak links as concrete evidence, throws a few big name quotes into the hat for fake gravitas and completely fails to back up any of its ranting conjecture with any reasoned argument or historical background.

I can understand why middle-class white males feel disenfranchised by PC, but rhetoric of quality this low isn't going to do them any favours.
Spoffin
07-05-2004, 15:03
I'm tired of political correctnesse
And spelling correctness apparently


Why do you need to bitch about this? If you don't want to be politically correct then you're looking to offend people anyway, so its pretty weird that the only people you do care about offending are the evil Liberal PC Nazis.
Spoffin
07-05-2004, 15:07
I found this great site explaining the origins of political correctness:

http://individual.utoronto.ca/alexander/pc/Thats the most absurd site I've ever seen.

Political correctness= COMMUNISM!!!


Its not that much effort to say police officer instead of policeman, or stablehand instead of stable lad. But it is pretty pathetic to rave against modifying these simple terms very slightly so that they don't have an implication of sexism or racism or any other kind of ism.
Berkylvania
07-05-2004, 16:14
Ah, they plaintive cry of the white male!

"I'm sick of political correctness!"

which means,

"I want to be offensive about other people without becoming a social leper and/or getting beaten up!"

If you want to say something, say it: just don't whine about the likely consequences.

It is interesting to note which posters are in agreement with the initial statement. Not saying it means anything, I just find it interesting.
Ecopoeia
07-05-2004, 17:17
Die, poisonous double post! Die, die, die!
Ecopoeia
07-05-2004, 17:17
Political correctness was well-intentioned but ill-advised. I say 'was' because it hasn't really been an issue (at least in the U) for a few years now. Even the Daily Mail has given up describing socially responsible actions as "political correctness gone mad".

Am I politically correct? Guess so. I believe that our race is 'humankind' or 'humanity'; I eschew the use of the word 'man' or 'mankind' to describe us. That said, I had a very interesting conversation with a feminist (well, I'm a feminist but of a different flavour) who argued that some women wish to 'reclaim' mankind for both genders. Technically, 'man' should be the root word that encapsulates all of us, with 'woman' and to represent the genders. The PC variant still has the root word ('man') defining the male.

Language [i]is important, it affects our thinking at the very least on a subconscious level. However, I don't subscribe to the extreme PC tendency to find bland, supposedly inoffensive words and phrases to describe everything that may give rise to some form of offence.

Here endeth the incoherent ramble.
Jeruselem
07-05-2004, 18:07
I deny being an intellectually challenged individual with an excessive dietary allocation and vertical disadvantage!

=

I'm not stupid, fat and short.

Makes our language more complicated than required ...
Greyenivol Colony
07-05-2004, 18:25
i'm for political correctness, there is a point that it was invented to pander to minorities. and that's good, cos minorities need pandering, without it people may, without even noticing, get offended. so when you way it up, it comes between having to stick in a few extra syllables or iratating a fellow human being. the people who are against it are either fighting to protect a right (which apparently they have) to be an asshole towards fractions of the community, people joining the bandwagon or people who just don't like speaking.
Garaj Mahal
07-05-2004, 20:51
What is so bloody difficult about being so-called "politically correct"? For me it's second nature and extremely easy.

"PC" language is designed to make society more mature, fair & peaceful. And I think it has done so. What's wrong with that? How does it hurt anybody unless they just can't stand the effort of being a better and more thoughtful person?

Many of the people who get upset about "PC" are generally lazy, ignorant fcuks who don't want themselves or society to change for the better. Especially if that means giving up their traditional unfair advantages.

Being skilled with language means having good grammar *and* polite usage. It's a sign of intelligence and maturity.
HotRodia
07-05-2004, 21:03
What is so bloody difficult about being so-called "politically correct"? For me it's second nature and extremely easy.

"PC" language is designed to make society more mature, fair & peaceful. And I think it has done so. What's wrong with that? How does it hurt anybody unless they just can't stand the effort of being a better and more thoughtful person?

Many of the people who get upset about "PC" are generally lazy, ignorant fcuks who don't want themselves or society to change for the better. Especially if that means giving up their traditional unfair advantages.

Being skilled with language means having good grammar *and* polite usage. It's a sign of intelligence and maturity.

Quite right.

Except the last bit. Being skilled with language can have something to do with "good" grammar or not. Being skilled with language certainly doesn't mean one is polite, or mature. When I was younger, I was very skilled in several languages but I was neither polite or mature, and I didn't practice proper grammar very often either.
Japaica
07-05-2004, 21:14
F*** the fat people.
F*** the gays.
And F*** everyone else that is being a pussy and telling people to be more politically correct.

We can't even call Mexicans hispanic anymore. Now we have to use the term latino.
Meriador
07-05-2004, 21:30
If there is no political correctness then why do you persist in going on about it, if i was not being politically correct then i could call you many things but the point is that political correctness is a way of calling someone something without insulting them. It is also a way of saying things without being racist or prejudice in somecases.

I am absoloutly outraged that you have the nerve to come here and say that it is wrong.

I'm sorry if i have offended you in any way but this is just what i think is right.
Soviet Haaregrad
07-05-2004, 21:32
N*****(and for those of u who dont know its the derogitory term for a man of african origan) became black which then became african-american (even though by then most of the people who merrit this title have never been to Africa or even find their tribes land on a map).

I'm pretty sure black is the 'proper' term again. And saying ****** at anytime was a pretty good way to get yourself knocked out. The term used in the 20s and 30s was negro or coloured.
Kwangistar
07-05-2004, 21:36
I don't have a problem with political correctness in itself, however I think today its gone too far (and applied unfairly, because the "right-wing infected corporate media" blasts Trent Lott to the point of resigning, yet dosen't pick up on Byrd's or Bustamante's uses of the n-word.
Expensive Territory
07-05-2004, 21:44
Ah, they plaintive cry of the white male!

"I'm sick of political correctness!"

which means,

"I want to be offensive about other people without becoming a social leper and/or getting beaten up!"

If you want to say something, say it: just don't whine about the likely consequences.

We prefer the term "melanin deprived individuals with external genitalia," :lol:

I think that most of us complain because these rules only apply to us. Any other group of people can say whatever they want, and if anybody complains they'll be labeled a racist.
HotRodia
07-05-2004, 21:47
N*****(and for those of u who dont know its the derogitory term for a man of african origan) became black which then became african-american (even though by then most of the people who merrit this title have never been to Africa or even find their tribes land on a map).

I'm pretty sure black is the 'proper' term again. And saying ****** at anytime was a pretty good way to get yourself knocked out. The term used in the 20s and 30s was negro or coloured.

Yeah. Nobody will knock you out for saying "black" nowadays. N****, if you are not of African descent and a are stranger, will earn your ass a beat down for sure.
Caveymen
07-05-2004, 21:49
I'm more against actual political renaming and redefinition


Affirmative Action
Implied : Action which is correct ("Affirmative" means correct, and "Action" is normally good as well)
Actual : Preferential treatment *for a particular minority group. (See : Apartheid, Racism)

American interest
Implied : The interest of Americans.
Actual : The interest of American corporations. This term is used by politicians that wish to start a war, without explaining the specific reasons they are doing it.

Change - This term is generally used to suggest that a particular idea is good because it is newer. But, seldom are the effects of this "change" fully examined. Newer is not always better. Remember? Nazism was change. Communism was change. Prohibition was change. 'Jim Crow' laws were change. Democracy was change?. Ok, so sometimes change is good. But, when a politician asks for 'change', one should consider whether or not the cure is really any better than the disease.

Department of Defense
Implied - Department concerned with the defense of America's borders
Actual - Department concerned with maintaining of American principles around the world through acts of large-scale terrorism.

Feminist
Implied - One who wishes to be more feminine, and wishes to protect feminine ideas and custom.
Actual - One who wishes to be more masculine, and destroy differences between the sexes.

Free Elections
Implied - The masses are free to choose any person they wish to run their government.
Actual - The masses are free to choose between the two candidates we choose for them... and if possible, even that is prohibited.

Gun Control
Implied - Laws which will control guns, and keep weapons out of the hands of criminals.
Actual - Laws which criminals will ignore, but which will keep weapons out of the hands of potential victims.

National security
Implied - The security of the nation.
Actual - The security of those in power. The security of our colonies. (See: neo-colonization)

Terrorist Attack
Implied : *When an evil group ruthlessly attacks peaceful citizens for no reason whatsoever.
Actual : When we upset a group so much, they fight back as best they can against our superior forces. *America is a "good" country because we bomb the hell out of terrorist nations. (I'm sure if some other great Empire would have interfered with Washington DC's conquest of the South in the way we interfered with Iraq reclaiming its own southern region, we would bomb the hell out of them too.)
QahJoh
07-05-2004, 21:50
I found this great site explaining the origins of political correctness:

http://individual.utoronto.ca/alexander/pc/

Yeah, sounds like a great site. PC was invented by Communists... Good to "know". :roll:

I think there's a fine line between basic commond decency and politeness, and PC stupidity. I basically try to walk that line. I basically have determined some things that I do consider "legitimate" to get offended over, and some that I don't. I don't spend my life trying to not offend people. Because frankly, at the end of the day, I don't care THAT much about what other people think.

That said, when I am "un-PC", I try to have a point. I don't want to offend people just for the hell of it, but rather to make them laugh, or think, or preferably both.
Janathoras
07-05-2004, 22:04
We can't even call Mexicans hispanic anymore. Now we have to use the term latino.

I didn't think 'Latino' meant either Mexican or Hispanic (the first which is a citizen of Mexico in my mind, and the latter more of a person from Spain or Portugal) but a person living in Latin America... but I may be wrong.

Yours truly,
slightly gravitationally challenged :wink:
Yugolsavia
07-05-2004, 22:59
quote="Philopolis"]I am a mexican,french,dutch,german (and other nationalities i'm not sure I am) -american[/quote]

If you are born here you are american. However since you have so much nationalitys you are not any of them you are american so be proude of it. By the way nice typing.

Ah, they plaintive cry of the white male!

"I'm sick of political correctness!"

which means,

"I want to be offensive about other people without becoming a social leper and/or getting beaten up!"

If you want to say something, say it: just don't whine about the likely consequences.

I?m tired of this white devil crap. Not all of us are racist and weak. It?s morons like you that are asking to be treated equaly but at the same time talk about exterminations of white people. You need a life. Also it is morons like you that cause all the problems in the world. Your attitude is of some potsmoking rastifarin would say, ?I am a complete loser who sits on my ass and complains but it is okay I do nothing about it because it?s the white mans fault.? By the way racism goes both ways buddy.

If there is no political correctness then why do you persist in going on about it, if i was not being politically correct then i could call you many things but the point is that political correctness is a way of calling someone something without insulting them. It is also a way of saying things without being racist or prejudice in somecases.

I am absoloutly outraged that you have the nerve to come here and say that it is wrong.

I'm sorry if i have offended you in any way but this is just what i think is right.

Yes I don?t believe in calling a black person a ****** but at the same time I have got to say they are african american. Why can?t I say he is black. Or with a hispanic person why do I have to call him latino. And whenever I talk to some of my friends when I say black instead of african american. It is stupid and a waste of oxygen. And besides you support free speech but you are stating everyone must say this crap. Please. Also a minority can say whatever they whant but the majority will do the same thing and they are labeled a racist.
Elvandair
07-05-2004, 23:58
We can't even call Mexicans hispanic anymore. Now we have to use the term latino.

I didn't think 'Latino' meant either Mexican or Hispanic (the first which is a citizen of Mexico in my mind, and the latter more of a person from Spain or Portugal) but a person living in Latin America... but I may be wrong.

Yours truly,
slightly gravitationally challenged :wink:

Everyone who comes from a spanish speaking origin is considered "Hispanic." Latino is for Latin America specifically. Who said you can't call them that? Latino is just the more recently used term. I think it came from Spanglish, actually, you know since so many Spanish words are being integrated into the English language.
Elvandair
07-05-2004, 23:58
We can't even call Mexicans hispanic anymore. Now we have to use the term latino.

I didn't think 'Latino' meant either Mexican or Hispanic (the first which is a citizen of Mexico in my mind, and the latter more of a person from Spain or Portugal) but a person living in Latin America... but I may be wrong.

Yours truly,
slightly gravitationally challenged :wink:

Everyone who comes from a spanish speaking origin is considered "Hispanic." Latino is for Latin America specifically. Who said you can't call them that? Latino is just the more recently used term. I think it came from Spanglish, actually, you know since so many Spanish words are being integrated into the English language.
Elvandair
07-05-2004, 23:58
We can't even call Mexicans hispanic anymore. Now we have to use the term latino.

I didn't think 'Latino' meant either Mexican or Hispanic (the first which is a citizen of Mexico in my mind, and the latter more of a person from Spain or Portugal) but a person living in Latin America... but I may be wrong.

Yours truly,
slightly gravitationally challenged :wink:

Everyone who comes from a spanish speaking origin is considered "Hispanic." Latino is for Latin America specifically. Who said you can't call them that? Latino is just the more recently used term. I think it came from Spanglish, actually, you know since so many Spanish words are being integrated into the English language.
Elvandair
07-05-2004, 23:58
We can't even call Mexicans hispanic anymore. Now we have to use the term latino.

I didn't think 'Latino' meant either Mexican or Hispanic (the first which is a citizen of Mexico in my mind, and the latter more of a person from Spain or Portugal) but a person living in Latin America... but I may be wrong.

Yours truly,
slightly gravitationally challenged :wink:

Everyone who comes from a spanish speaking origin is considered "Hispanic." Latino is for Latin America specifically. Who said you can't call them that? Latino is just the more recently used term. I think it came from Spanglish, actually, you know since so many Spanish words are being integrated into the English language.
Aryan Supremacy
08-05-2004, 03:54
Political correctness is all about redefining the language to suit the needs of liberals. Institutions or concepts that liberals disaprove of, and the words, definitions and nomenclature associated with them, are subtly assaulted by the manipulation of the language. New words and terms are substituted for old ones, but the newer words are more vague, less concise and move the focus of the word onto another point that the liberals approve more of. An example would be the word Negro, or Mongoloid. Both refer to specific racial groups, and since liberals disaprove of anything to do with race, the terms are changed to African-American and Asian. Both of which are far more sloppy, generalised and vague; and, besides being incorrect, they also take the focus off of race and move it onto geographic location. This leads to arguments when people use PC terms such as "Asian" are mocked with arguments like "but Asia is the largest continent and contains people of many different cultures and colours". Ive also heard people say that Charlize Theron is African-American since she comes from Africa and now lives in America. Thus the focus of a word is shifted to try to undermine people who use that word.

Patiotism and Nationalism are another 2 examples. Originally both meant the same thing, love of ones country. Yet now liberals are trying to impose their own perceptions on the words. To be a patriot in PC terms now means to be a liberal who accepts all immigrants as countrymen if they were born in the same state, and only see race and nationality as relitively unimportant things as long as you agree with "our" views, ie liberalism. To be a Nationalist in PC terms means you reject liberalism and its norms and is therefore a term of abuse, intended to make you out as stupid, violent and homicidal.

Anybody who has read 1984 will understand political correctness is merely another term for what Orwell called Newspeak.
Expensive Territory
08-05-2004, 03:59
Anybody who has read 1984 will understand political correctness is merely another term for what Orwell called Newspeak.

Good call.

Now just watch out that you don't become an unperson for pointing out one of the liberal agendas.
Lodian Romastism
08-05-2004, 04:03
i personally do not think it is the words like n**** that are evil just the racist F****** A**hole who should be smacked
West - Europa
08-05-2004, 09:59
Political correctness is destroying politics and drives the populace in the hands of extremists. I'd hate to call myself a racist, but moderates like myself despise "political correctness" that defies common sense.

Take Belgium for instance. Lots of Morrocan youths annoy the shit out of locals and think they can get away with anything, but you have to watch out what you say about them or it's "racism". Last thing I heard they were trying to build a mosque without a building licence. Not on my watch they won't.

Same with Israël. They're major assholes but call them anything derogatory and you're an anti-semite.
The Great Leveller
08-05-2004, 10:05
Political correctness is destroying politics and drives the populace in the hands of extremists. I'd hate to call myself a racist, but moderates like myself despise "political correctness" that defies common sense.

Take Belgium for instance. Lots of Morrocan youths annoy the shit out of locals and think they can get away with anything, but you have to watch out what you say about them or it's "racism". Last thing I heard they were trying to build a mosque without a building licence. Not on my watch they won't.

Same with Israël. They're major assholes but call them anything derogatory and you're an anti-semite.

Because so many liberals support Isreal :roll:

For me, PC is annoying, I never use derogatory language but some PC terms are just stupid. Like Metabolically challenged, differently abled etc.
Free Soviets
08-05-2004, 10:16
Anybody who has read 1984 will understand political correctness is merely another term for what Orwell called Newspeak.

just because people call you a racist fuck-tard when you call someone a '******', that does not mean that the english language is being diminished for the purpose of restricting the range of possible thoughts. quite the opposite, really.
Roania
08-05-2004, 10:19
I, too, am tired of political correctness. I yearn for a world where I can call a moron a moron, a policeman a policeman, and a stupid, moronic piece of *expletive deleted* a Democrat.

Sadly, that's not going to happen. And perhaps things are better...
08-05-2004, 10:22
today i heard a guy who was fishing refered to as a "fisher" what the hell is that?

he is a fisherman, hes fishing and hey look at that!
hes a man too,
what a perfect way of describing him
Free Soviets
08-05-2004, 10:33
today i heard a guy who was fishing refered to as a "fisher" what the hell is that?

he is a fisherman, hes fishing and hey look at that!
hes a man too,
what a perfect way of describing him

do you often find yourself at baseball games confused and angry at the fact that they aren't called pitchermen and catchermen? they do have basemen, after all.

language is living, we can change it if we want. and enough of us do that you'll just have to keep up.
Garaj Mahal
09-05-2004, 02:06
...F*** everyone else that is being a pussy and telling people to be more politically correct.

Hey it takes more cojones to stand up for a minority viewpoint like mine than being just another of you scared-by-PC SHEEP. In today's reactionary climate, the person who defends PC is the braver one by far.

We can't even call Mexicans hispanic anymore. Now we have to use the term latino.

Ooh poor baby! What a horrible task that is - it's just way too hard!!

Hey even if Mexicans want to change their title every single year, I'll happily oblige them. Know why? Because it's absolutely no skin off anybody's ass and it's just so damned easy to! So why wouldn't I at least be willing to do that for them if that's what they'd like?

Try lightening-up and growing up. Be open-minded and happily change your language usage frequently throughout your life. You'll even learn to like it.
The Global Market
09-05-2004, 02:07
www.newspeakdictionary.com

The true face of political correctness.

The problem is not hate speech, it is hate itself. In a free society, I frankly have teh right to offend whoever the hell I want.
Cuneo Island
09-05-2004, 02:08
For.


The dumb blonde thing is not politically correct and my wife is usually considered a dumb blonde.
The Global Market
09-05-2004, 02:13
I found this great site explaining the origins of political correctness:

http://individual.utoronto.ca/alexander/pc/

WOW! :shock: this is a good site! ;) and not just because it;s at U of T, but because it presents the concept in a concise manner, while still giving enough information at the same time.

The Newspeak Dictionary is nice too: www.newspeakdictionary.com
Tuesday Heights
09-05-2004, 03:05
As long as your opinion doesn't hurt someone, I don't see why you have to be politically correct.