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I hate Christians

Whittier
06-05-2004, 09:40
Christians are the root of all evil. Everything bad thing that has happened is because of them. God is punishing America for the hypocrisy and evil of the Christians.
Everything is their fault. I hate them all. They are all liars. The only good christian is a dead christian. Since the day I was born they have tried to kill me and they always demonize me no matter what I do.
The best thing for America is to ban all christians from the government and the military. This will be my platform when I run for office again.
Colodia
06-05-2004, 09:42
Your platform doesn't beat my platform

"Vaporize the seperation of powers and give everything to the Executive branch, legalize music downloads, and ban the RIAA and our criminals to Canada"
Bodies Without Organs
06-05-2004, 09:43
Christians are the root of all evil.

Aside from the fact that this is all blatant flame-baiting...

...so you are claiming that evil did not exist until slightly over 2000 years ago?
Meulmania
06-05-2004, 09:45
Christians are the root of all evil.

Aside from the fact that this is all blatant flame-baiting...

...so you are claiming that evil did not exist until slightly over 2000 years ago?

Exactly think about what you say Whittier.
Nebbyland
06-05-2004, 09:46
I'm hoping that this is supposed some sort of ironic statement I'm afraid it might not be.

I'm not christian, but hating someone for whtat they believe is in my opinion wrong.

I'm not going to further this argument any more.
Janathoras
06-05-2004, 09:48
...so you are claiming that evil did not exist until slightly over 2000 years ago?

Heh-heh-heh. I like that. Then, of course, if you believe the Bible, the _world_ didn't exist more than 6000 years back, so X-tians being the source of evil for about a third of its existence is kind of neat...

Now, where can I learn more about being evil (they didn't teach that in Sunday school...)?
Bodies Without Organs
06-05-2004, 09:50
...so you are claiming that evil did not exist until slightly over 2000 years ago?

Heh-heh-heh. I like that. Then, of course, if you believe the Bible, the _wordl_ didn't exist more than 6000 years back, so X-tians being the source of evil for about a third of its existence is kind of neat...


Well, technically that isn't the Bible, just Archbishop Usher's interpretation of one particular set of assertions contained within it.
Whittier
06-05-2004, 09:53
Christians are the root of all evil.

Aside from the fact that this is all blatant flame-baiting...

...so you are claiming that evil did not exist until slightly over 2000 years ago?

Exactly think about what you say Whittier.
It is a proven fact around the world that they are the root of all evil. They don't even follow Jesus teachings.
Whittier
06-05-2004, 09:54
I'm hoping that this is supposed some sort of ironic statement I'm afraid it might not be.

I'm not christian, but hating someone for whtat they believe is in my opinion wrong.

I'm not going to further this argument any more.
I hate them because they are anti freedom. Because they seek to force their religion on people who don't agree with it.
Bodies Without Organs
06-05-2004, 09:54
Christians are the root of all evil.

Aside from the fact that this is all blatant flame-baiting...

...so you are claiming that evil did not exist until slightly over 2000 years ago?

Exactly think about what you say Whittier.
It is a proven fact around the world that they are the root of all evil. They don't even follow Jesus teachings.

...so you are claiming that evil did not exist until slightly over 2000 years ago?

C'mon, if you are just going to play troll, you can at least try and answer people's responses to your trolling: a simple 'yes' or 'no' would suffice.
Bodies Without Organs
06-05-2004, 09:56
I'm hoping that this is supposed some sort of ironic statement I'm afraid it might not be.

I'm not christian, but hating someone for whtat they believe is in my opinion wrong.

I'm not going to further this argument any more.
I hate them because they are anti freedom. Because they seek to force their religion on people who don't agree with it.

Whereas you are seeking to force your worldvies on people who don't agree with it...
Whittier
06-05-2004, 09:56
Christians are the root of all evil.

Aside from the fact that this is all blatant flame-baiting...

...so you are claiming that evil did not exist until slightly over 2000 years ago?

Exactly think about what you say Whittier.
It is a proven fact around the world that they are the root of all evil. They don't even follow Jesus teachings.

...so you are claiming that evil did not exist until slightly over 2000 years ago?

C'mon, if you are just going to play troll, you can at least try and answer people's responses to your trolling.
We are not talking 2000 years ago. I am talking the here and now. All modern christians are evil. They do satan's bidding.
Mutual Liberty
06-05-2004, 09:56
That's discrimination man, you should hate all rambling cult idiots who are good for nothing but starting wars, spilling blood and holding women and homosexuals back thousands of years.

Oh, and supporting the system of wage slavery.

So let's see, in no particular order:

Christians
Muslims (used to be one myself)
Jews

Hmm... I was gonna list some more, but I realized I don't so much "hate" most of these people as pity. The preachers I hate though, like imams, priests and rabbis.
Whittier
06-05-2004, 09:57
I'm hoping that this is supposed some sort of ironic statement I'm afraid it might not be.

I'm not christian, but hating someone for whtat they believe is in my opinion wrong.

I'm not going to further this argument any more.
I hate them because they are anti freedom. Because they seek to force their religion on people who don't agree with it.

Whereas you are seeking to force your worldvies on people who don't agree with it...
unlike the christians, I am not holding a gun to anyone's head.
If you offend the christians, they put you in jail for it.
I don't jail people just for disagreeing with me.
Ascensia
06-05-2004, 09:59
I have the feeling the complaints of the originator will eventually fade into a pain-filled scream without an end.
Marineris Colonies
06-05-2004, 09:59
Then, of course, if you believe the Bible, the _wordl_ didn't exist more than 6000 years back...

"Moreover, dear friends, do not ignore this: with the Lord, one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years like one day."
- 2 Kefa (2 Peter) 3:8, Complete Jewish Bible by David H. Stern

"Do not forget this one thing, dear friends: with the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day."
- 2 Peter 3:8, The Teen Study Bible (NIV), Zondervan

The universe is 6000 years old, 6 billion years old, 600 years old, 6 mins. old, 6 hours old, 600000 billion years old...trying to fit (EDIT: a god which exists outside) of time onto a timescale is only going to cause headaches. :wink:
Cromotar
06-05-2004, 10:05
People who hate are the root of all evil, whether that reason is religion, politics, or whatever. You can't judge an entire religion based on some of its practitioners. (And no, I'm not Christian myself.)
06-05-2004, 10:07
There was a time when I hated christians and christianity in general. Now I'm Dating a preachers daughter. Funny world we live in isn't it?

Jim
The Atheists Reality
06-05-2004, 10:09
There was a time when I hated christians and christianity in general. Now I'm Dating a preachers daughter. Funny world we live in isn't it?

Jim

and the great one arrives! :D
New Fuglies
06-05-2004, 10:11
Hate the behavior, not the person! :wink:
Undead Demons
06-05-2004, 10:22
I don't know why I am replying to this but...

My grandparents are both Christian. They are anything but evil. As for not following Jesus' teachings, that was a long, long time ago (back in the middle ages, when even the pope decided that it was ok to kill as long as you did it "honourably", and the cardinal of britain ordered an entire village massacred because someone splashed him accidentally). And that was hundreds of years ago, if not over a thousand years ago. As for modern Christians, can you give me any proof that all Christians are Satanists? Can you give me proof that all Christians are evil? It's like saying that all Muslims are evil using the actions of Osama Bin Laden as proof. I certainly don't believe that for a minute. I know a very good family of Muslims. And when, in modern times, has not being Christian been punnishable by imprisonment?
06-05-2004, 10:25
There was a time when I hated christians and christianity in general. Now I'm Dating a preachers daughter. Funny world we live in isn't it?

Jim

and the great one arrives! :D

The title is "Greatness" not Great One" :lol:

Jim
Whittier
06-05-2004, 10:27
Christians are my enemies and it is my purpose in life to destroy them and their culture.
Therefore, prostitution should be legalized cause the Christians are offended by it.
Bayorta
06-05-2004, 10:28
I hate people whp hate Christians. Why? Because they are usually idiots and or Nazis. WHITTIER IS A LITTLE NAZI BSTARD!

Secondly, they dont force their religion upon the world. You cant blame people for trying to spread their religion FFS. But they dont force people. You havent experienced what its like in a non-Christian country. Then you may change your opinion.
The Atheists Reality
06-05-2004, 10:28
There was a time when I hated christians and christianity in general. Now I'm Dating a preachers daughter. Funny world we live in isn't it?

Jim

and the great one arrives! :D

The title is "Greatness" not Great One" :lol:

Jim

The Unholy Lord Of Damnation?
Whittier
06-05-2004, 10:28
For the same reason,
polygamy should be legalized
animal sacrifice should be legalized
the burning of bibles should be done more often
Whittier
06-05-2004, 10:29
I hate people whp hate Christians. Why? Because they are usually idiots and or Nazis. WHITTIER IS A LITTLE NAZI BSTARD!

Secondly, they dont force their religion upon the world. You cant blame people for trying to spread their religion FFS. But they dont force people. You havent experienced what its like in a non-Christian country. Then you may change your opinion.
Fuck off.
Whittier
06-05-2004, 10:30
We need more nudity on tv. Cause it offends the christians.
Whittier
06-05-2004, 10:31
Brothers should do their own sisters
that offends christians too.
The bible is good for toilet paper.
06-05-2004, 10:31
The Unholy Lord Of Damnation?

Not bad! I like It.

But you forgot the and Hellfire! :P

Jim
The Atheists Reality
06-05-2004, 10:31
Brothers should do their own sisters
that offends christians too.
The bible is good for toilet paper.
STOP
The Atheists Reality
06-05-2004, 10:32
The Unholy Lord Of Damnation?

Not bad! I like It.

But you forgot the and Hellfire! :P

Jim

The Unholy Lord Of Damnation, hellfire and suffering?
Whittier
06-05-2004, 10:32
From now on, I will use the Bible to wipe my ass with.
Detsl-stan
06-05-2004, 10:33
Drunken Xtians are okay. Sober ones are another matter... :wink:
The Atheists Reality
06-05-2004, 10:33
From now on, I will use the Bible to wipe my ass with.
why are you doing this Suicide?
Whittier
06-05-2004, 10:34
From now on, I will use the Bible to wipe my ass with.
why are you doing this Suicide?
suicide? I am immortal. I cannot die.
06-05-2004, 10:34
From now on, I will use the Bible to wipe my ass with.
why are you doing this Suicide?

Let Him.

And I'll take the title, now. thanx.

Jim
The Atheists Reality
06-05-2004, 10:34
From now on, I will use the Bible to wipe my ass with.
why are you doing this Suicide?
suicide? I am immortal. I cannot die.

you're killing a december nation! why?
Sdaeriji
06-05-2004, 10:35
I give Whittier 24 hours. He's obviously an attention-whore.
Whittier
06-05-2004, 10:36
From now on, I will use the Bible to wipe my ass with.
why are you doing this Suicide?
suicide? I am immortal. I cannot die.

you're killing a december nation! why?
Damn, you're right.
Offend the christians and everyone on earth hates you.
Sdaeriji
06-05-2004, 10:37
From now on, I will use the Bible to wipe my ass with.
why are you doing this Suicide?
suicide? I am immortal. I cannot die.

Are you done Shake? That took forever.

Forever?...I...am forever. I AM IMMORTAL!
The Atheists Reality
06-05-2004, 10:37
From now on, I will use the Bible to wipe my ass with.
why are you doing this Suicide?
suicide? I am immortal. I cannot die.

you're killing a december nation! why?
Damn, you're right.
Offend the christians and everyone on earth hates you.

you're flaming, which happens to offend everyone
Whittier
06-05-2004, 10:37
Ok. I will stop posting things that offend the christian hypocrites.
06-05-2004, 10:37
Damn, you're right.
Offend the christians and everyone on earth hates you.

If you start out with everyone on Earth hating you, then it doesn't matter who you offend, now does it?

Jim
Sima Can
06-05-2004, 10:38
I hate people whp hate Christians. Why? Because they are usually idiots and or Nazis. WHITTIER IS A LITTLE NAZI BSTARD!

Secondly, they dont force their religion upon the world. You cant blame people for trying to spread their religion FFS. But they dont force people. You havent experienced what its like in a non-Christian country. Then you may change your opinion.
f--- off.

Wow.... you express your opinion and everyone is meant to listen anf agree. when someone elses says anything not liking to your years you tell them to f--- off... it tells u all about how hypcrictical you are.

I am a Christian and to my understanding christainity is about forgiveness not only via Jesus by us as humans as well. No one (Human) is perfect not even one, so how can u expect someone to follow the Ten Commandments 100%. Anyway in the bible it is said (once again from what I interpret) that the ten commandments are no longer needed, Jesus is the way of grace and it is only by grace we can enter into heaven.

Do not associate the people who use GOd and Christainity as their shield for their actions. There are people out there who say they do things in the name of Christ but are only really fattening their own pockets.
Sdaeriji
06-05-2004, 10:38
Are you okay Shake?

Okay...I'm not immortal. But I think the branch can hold IT'SNOTHOLDING!!!
Whittier
06-05-2004, 10:38
Damn, you're right.
Offend the christians and everyone on earth hates you.

If you start out with everyone on Earth hating you, then it doesn't matter who you offend, now does it?

Jim NO, cause then everyone is your enemy.
imported_Celeborne
06-05-2004, 10:39
I hate people whp hate Christians. Why? Because they are usually idiots and or Nazis. WHITTIER IS A LITTLE NAZI BSTARD!

Secondly, they dont force their religion upon the world. You cant blame people for trying to spread their religion FFS. But they dont force people. You havent experienced what its like in a non-Christian country. Then you may change your opinion.

I do not hate christians, but I do think that the modern Christian church has become in many ways the worst institution in the world. Notice I said institution and not faith ? Let me explain, as a religion/faith/spirituality, christianity is really very nice. Turn the other cheek and help people and all.Christ had some very good ideas, and people should try to live up to them. As an institution christianity has been responsable for some of the greatest crimes against humanity in recent history.
And as a historical note, in many cases christianity was forced on people. In North America, native americans were forced to go to church or they were beaten, they also were kept from performing thier native rituals by the church.
In africa , non christians were hanged to provide an example to those who refused to convert.
Hungry people have been refused food until they convert.
Just some examples for you. And I have been to a non-christian country before, and it looked much the same as a depressed christian country.
Jesu Cristu
06-05-2004, 10:39
What you say to me I respond to you with a voice of a great tumult of men, "I LOVE YOU!" Perhaps you have not met the right Christian, but my faith teaches me to love my neighbor, to help those in need, and to accept all forms of life.

Blessed are they who arepersecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Matt 5:10

so again I say to you with the multitude of the Most High, "I LOVE YOU!"
Sima Can
06-05-2004, 10:40
I hate people whp hate Christians. Why? Because they are usually idiots and or Nazis. WHITTIER IS A LITTLE NAZI BSTARD!

Secondly, they dont force their religion upon the world. You cant blame people for trying to spread their religion FFS. But they dont force people. You havent experienced what its like in a non-Christian country. Then you may change your opinion.
f--- off.

Wow.... you express your opinion and everyone is meant to listen anf agree. when someone elses says anything not liking to your years you tell them to f--- off... it tells u all about how hypcrictical you are.

I am a Christian and to my understanding christainity is about forgiveness not only via Jesus by us as humans as well. No one (Human) is perfect not even one, so how can u expect someone to follow the Ten Commandments 100%. Anyway in the bible it is said (once again from what I interpret) that the ten commandments are no longer needed, Jesus is the way of grace and it is only by grace we can enter into heaven.

Do not associate the people who use GOd and Christainity as their shield for their actions. There are people out there who say they do things in the name of Christ but are only really fattening their own pockets.
Undead Badgers
06-05-2004, 10:41
Christian n. - One who follows the teachings of Christ inasmuch as they do not interfere with living a life of sin

--Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
06-05-2004, 10:42
people will twist anything into everything. not all christians r evil.
Whittier
06-05-2004, 10:43
What you say to me I respond to you with a voice of a great tumult of men, "I LOVE YOU!" Perhaps you have not met the right Christian, but my faith teaches me to love my neighbor, to help those in need, and to accept all forms of life.

Blessed are they who arepersecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Matt 5:10

so again I say to you with the multitude of the Most High, "I LOVE YOU!"
I followed God will, but he abandoned me! ANd let every evil thing on earth happen to me. He allows all the evil people to prosper. Those of us who followed his commands to the letter have unfairly suffered.
Whittier
06-05-2004, 10:44
Christian n. - One who follows the teachings of Christ inasmuch as they do not interfere with living a life of sin

--Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
That is an accurate discription.
Sdaeriji
06-05-2004, 10:50
Shake: (to Happy Time Harry) This is a magic cliff here, like in The Highlander. So you will become the Highlander, and you'll roam the earth forever *trying* to kill yourself, but you won't be able to, because you'll be immortal! Won't *that* suck, little man?

Meatwad: Well, actually, that sounds kind of cool.

Shake: Yeah, it does.

Meatwad: Then I'm gonna do it.

Shake: No you're not! *I'm* doing it!

Frylock: Shake, wait! The Highlander was just a movie, I mean-

Shake: Oh, Frylock. The Highlander was a documentary, and the events happened in real time. I remember. There were cliffs. And magic. And Mel Gibson.

Happytime Harry: Uh, Braveheart....

Shake: (to Happytime Harry) Oh you think you're the expert? Let's see how much your ass knows about flying!
Belgian Immigrants
06-05-2004, 11:01
I am not sure quite how the Christian Church is evil in any way. Admittedly there are many variants of the Christian church and some of them are a little weird, but, personally I've never seen the church promote or condone any kind of action which is evil or hurts others. Some of the views held in Christianity may be seen as outdated and derogatory towards certain commonplace groups in society, but you must remember that the bible was written over 2000 years ago when homosexuality was not seen as it is today, and is interpreted in the wrong way when it is read today, and also women's rights were not accepted so you can't really judge the smaller and supposedly "more important" aspects of the christian faith.
Whittier, your views hold no ground in todays society and you have absolutely NO backing to your views, so "go sit in your tower" to quote Jack Black.
Jesu Cristu
06-05-2004, 11:08
You have heard that it is said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy." But I say to you, love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be the children of your heavenly Father, for he makes his sun rise on the bad and the good, and causes rain to fall on the just and the unjust.
Matt 5:43-45

and to complete the Beatitudes
Blessed are the poor of spirit; for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are they who mourn; for they shall be comforted.
Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the land.
Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied.
Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.
Blessed are the clean of heart, for they will see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the children of God...
Blessed are you when they insult you and persecute you and utter every kind of evil against you [falsely] because of me. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward will be great in Heaven. Thus they persecuted the prophets before you.
Matt 5:3,4,5,6,7,8,9,11-12
Invisible Poo
06-05-2004, 11:36
What you say to me I respond to you with a voice of a great tumult of men, "I LOVE YOU!" Perhaps you have not met the right Christian, but my faith teaches me to love my neighbor, to help those in need, and to accept all forms of life.

Blessed are they who arepersecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Matt 5:10

so again I say to you with the multitude of the Most High, "I LOVE YOU!"
I followed God will, but he abandoned me! ANd let every evil thing on earth happen to me. He allows all the evil people to prosper. Those of us who followed his commands to the letter have unfairly suffered.



Whittier, it may seem that God has abandoned you, but he will never leave you. If you think everything bad has happened to you, I urge you to read Job. It is one of the most encouraging books of the Bible when you are enduring tough times and as you will see, Job's entire life caved in on him (he lost his livestock, his fields, his sons, pretty much everything) yet he still maintained his faith. Because of his faith, God richly blessed him beyond anything he had imagined before. "The LORD blessed the latter part of Job's life more than the first." - Job 42:12
Maintaining faith through hard times is the hardest thing to do as a Christian, yet we are called to be ever faithful, and "press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus." - Phillipians 3:14. The bible tells us we will suffer in this life, but it also says "we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal." - 2 Corinthians 4:18. The suffering we endure on Earth is short lived and is worth eternal happiness. Also, noone here on earth has lived a perfect life, we have all fallen short of God's commands. Sure, some people live more in accordance with the commandments than others, but good works will never get anyone to heaven. That is why Christ came to live the only perfect life and sacrifice himself so we can live eternally. No matter how good you are, you will never reach heaven but by the grace of God. That is all there is to it. We are not perfect. We can't be. But if we will just accept the gift God has given us through Jesus, we will receive eternal life.
As far as christians being the root of all evil, most christians are in fact trying to fight off what we believe are the evils of this world, things that draw people away from God. True, there have been times in history and even places in the world today where christians did some very evil things when trying to force their religion on people. But not all christians are like that, and most christians will not try to force christianity onto anyone. However, we are called to spread God's love and teachings throughout the world. "But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth." - Acts 1:8. We are not called to force it upon people, but to be living examples. Most christians fail to live up to this calling. But God forgives us because we are mortal and are not perfect. We are also called to forgive one another. To forgive christians who do not live according to their faith. To forgive all people, including christians, for the evil they have done. You are correct that christians are evil. All people are evil. But christians are saved despite our sins.
Rahlise
06-05-2004, 11:58
Christianity is a fairy tale IMHO.

I'm glad you have something (religion) but it's not for me, I don't believe in 'Gods' or heavens and hells....much the same as I don't believe in Santa or the Tooth fairy.

I'd encourage every Christian to think on the possibility of your God not existing....after all, you are always saying that we non believers should try and accept that he does exist......middle ground anyone?

I had an interesting thought the other night while having a spliff wih my mate.

lets assume for a second that God / Jesus / The holy ghost or whatever does exist (he doesn't but lets assume he does)......now apparently we were all created in 'Gods Image' - every single one of us.

So based on that idea.....would it not be reasonable to expect that those amongst us who do not believe would not be denied heaven because if we are made in his own image then some of us must have been made not believing in God for a reason.

So should non-believers be persecuted because of the way God made them?

Not that he does exist mind!! I'm happy for everyone to have their belief, as long as no one expects me to share it.
Upper Orwellia
06-05-2004, 12:02
Christians are offended by torture. By Whittier's logic, Whittier should be tortured all day, every day until s/he dies. And Whitter should also be pimped out, stripped of possessions and all his/her loved ones killed.

If you want to hate something then hate the number 2. That makes about as much sense as hating Christians.

Aidan
Sdaeriji
06-05-2004, 12:04
Christians are offended by torture. By Whittier's logic, Whittier should be tortured all day, every day until s/he dies. And Whitter should also be pimped out, stripped of possessions and all his/her loved ones killed.

If you want to hate something then hate the number 2. That makes about as much sense as hating Christians.

Aidan

Good call. I'll get right on all of that. Well, except hating 2. 2 is a kick ass number.
Jesu Cristu
06-05-2004, 22:25
God created man a rational human being, conferring on him the dignity of a person who can initiate and control his own actions. "God willed that man should be 'left in the hand of his own counsel, ' so that he might of his own accord seek his Creator and freely attain his full and blessed perfection by cleaving to him."
-Sirach 15:14

Freedom make man responsible for his acts to the extent that they are voluntary. Progress in virtue, knowledge of the good, and ascesis enhance the mastery of the will over its acts.

Remember that Original Sin came from a will of man, who chose to disobey the Father.
Stephistan
06-05-2004, 23:42
Well, that was an interesting flamey, flamebait read.. on that note..

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