NationStates Jolt Archive


Why do you support YOUR political party

C-Bass
06-05-2004, 03:27
No names, no stereotypes, no disrespect, PLEASE.

Just state why you have chosen your party.
The Holy Saints
06-05-2004, 03:30
im guessing democratic socialist falls under 'independant'

its my party(all of em are socialist, im moderate socialist, still far left here....) in norway, but i cant vote in the US, and i wouldnt vote at all here b/c the socialist candidate sucks and all the other parties aren't worth giving the vote if i couldnt vote socialist.
06-05-2004, 03:32
I don't support any party.
I am independent.
Super American VX Man
06-05-2004, 03:32
I'm just primarily libertarian (a bit of liberal in me, but not enough to take priority). I like the government to limit its activities and let people do what they want, within reason.
Dempublicents
06-05-2004, 03:37
I can't really say why I am what I am without seeming to insult someone. But I chose independent because I can think for myself and don't need some political party to tell me who to vote for.
Letila
06-05-2004, 03:43
I don't support any political party.

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"But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality."
Free your mind! (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html)
I like big butts!

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Side Four
06-05-2004, 03:46
I am a Democrat because I believe in the regulation of big buiness, preserving the environment, and equality for all.
Eridanus
06-05-2004, 03:48
I'm a green. I like the environment, let's keep it nice
Letila
06-05-2004, 03:51
What happened to you being anarcho-communist, Eridanus?

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"But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality."
Free your mind! (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html)
I like big butts!

http://www.angelfire.com/mo3/terrapvlchra/images/steatopygia.jpg
Free Soviets
06-05-2004, 03:52
i support my party because we know how to party.
06-05-2004, 03:58
I am a Independent who votes Republican, But I don't support anybody.
Ashmoria
06-05-2004, 04:25
i just became a registered democrat this year because new mexico democratic party had a caucus for their presidential candidate this year and it vote it in i had to be a member

in general i prefer the underlying reality of the democratic lies to the underlying reality of the republican lies.
Lithuanighanistania
06-05-2004, 04:37
One word: kick-backs.
Kryozerkia
06-05-2004, 04:38
Whoever isn`t the biggest jackass of the moment...
Dakhanavar
06-05-2004, 04:43
Well I believe the truth always lies in the middle so thats why I'm an independant. Mote it be.
Free Soviets
06-05-2004, 04:47
Well I believe the truth always lies in the middle so thats why I'm an independant. Mote it be.

the middle of what exactly?
Kryozerkia
06-05-2004, 04:48
Well I believe the truth always lies in the middle so thats why I'm an independant. Mote it be.

the middle of what exactly?

Political spectrum
Madesonia
06-05-2004, 04:49
I'm a greeny!
Free Soviets
06-05-2004, 04:58
the middle of what exactly?

Political spectrum

between what poles? socialism and neoliberalism? stalinism and 'anarcho'-capitalism? anarchism and fascism? anarchism and stalinism? democrats and republicans?
Kryozerkia
06-05-2004, 04:59
the middle of what exactly?

Political spectrum

between what poles? socialism and neoliberalism? stalinism and 'anarcho'-capitalism? anarchism and fascism? anarchism and stalinism? democrats and republicans?

Likely between the extremes of his nation's political spectrum.
06-05-2004, 05:01
Well, I was a member of the Socialist Workers 'Party' here in the UK for ten years. I'm blushing with shame even as I write. I don't have a good word to say about that so...er... :|
Soviet Democracy
06-05-2004, 05:01
I am a socialist. Though I am more of a capitalistic socialist, I am still a socialist. I would most closely relate to a democrat on this poll because I am not a very left-wing socialist. Liberal socialist, yes. Far left-wing socialist, no.
06-05-2004, 05:02
Libertarian. I used to be a democrat, but it seems like now they're getting closer and closer to republicans. Gotta love moderate America.
Free Soviets
06-05-2004, 05:02
Likely between the extremes of his nation's political spectrum.

eh, maybe.

i'm of the opinion that there isn't such a place, because politics isn't really bipolar. there is no meaningful middle.
Free Soviets
06-05-2004, 05:04
Though I am more of a capitalistic socialist, I am still a socialist.

wha? i don't get it. like new labor or the psoe 'socialist', or more like market socialism?
Nimzonia
06-05-2004, 05:27
I've never been motivated to vote before, but I may vote Lib Dem next time the opportunity arises.

I think I live in a Conservative stronghold, though (our MP was Ted Heath for ages), so it probably won't make much difference.
Monkeypimp
06-05-2004, 05:40
I'll be voting greens next time because they are the only decent left-wing party here. They also aren't willing to sacrifice their beliefs to get votes or a coalition.
BackwoodsSquatches
06-05-2004, 05:41
Althou I will vote for Kerry in the next election, and I too am a bit of a liberal....Im not a democrat.
In fact, I dont really seem to conform to any established party.
Global Peoples
06-05-2004, 05:42
It's my party.

And I'll cry if I want to.
The Great Leveller
06-05-2004, 05:42
I'll vote Lib-Dems, as they are the only alternative to labour near me
Sliders
06-05-2004, 05:46
very libertarian, because I don't believe in big government- but I do believe in defense and protection from nonvictimless crimes
Polish Warriors
06-05-2004, 05:50
I vote straight ticket Libertarian due to the fact that it is increasingly becoming a rarity that anyone thinks for themselves or takes responsibility for thier own actions. But this presidential election I'm voting for the lesser of two evils (Kerry) just cause I will not tolerate another national embarrasment like we had last time eventhough the U.S. barely had 50% voter turnout which is sickening in and of itself.
Sliders
06-05-2004, 05:51
I vote straight ticket Libertarian due to the fact that it is increasingly becoming a rarity that anyone thinks for themselves or takes responsibility for thier own actions. But this presidential election I'm voting for the lesser of two evils (Kerry) just cause I will not tolerate another national embarrasment like we had last time eventhough the U.S. barely had 50% voter turnout which is sickening in and of itself.
tsk tsk
Soviet Democracy
06-05-2004, 06:32
Though I am more of a capitalistic socialist, I am still a socialist.

wha? i don't get it. like new labor or the psoe 'socialist', or more like market socialism?

Market Socialism.

I believe in small business, but I also support global healthcare, free schooling through college, basic food, basic shelter, and basic clothing provided. I still think people should be allowed to rise and fall but be given a basis to go off of if they were born into poverty.
Eridanus
06-05-2004, 06:38
What happened to you being anarcho-communist, Eridanus?

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"But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality."
Free your mind! (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html)
I like big butts!

http://www.angelfire.com/mo3/terrapvlchra/images/steatopygia.jpg

Still a bit of that too. I was choosing political parties, and Greens match that best.
06-05-2004, 06:41
I'm a libertarian But I dont think that Business should have so much power. So I vote Independant
Free Soviets
06-05-2004, 06:42
Still a bit of that too. I was choosing political parties, and Greens match that best.

stick with the anarchists - where the political party really is a party
06-05-2004, 06:43
What happened to you being anarcho-communist, Eridanus?

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"But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality."
Free your mind! (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html)
I like big butts!

http://www.angelfire.com/mo3/terrapvlchra/images/steatopygia.jpg

He probably grew a brain.
Ise
06-05-2004, 07:07
Let's see... I am generally conservative on moral issues, left of center on economic issues, more or less moderate on war/military issues, a strange issue-by-issue person if you talk about law enforcement...

The list goes on, but in the end I'm probably right of center.

Nonetheless, I don't want to support a political party because neither the Democrats or Republicans do what they think is right, just stick with what will help them and their party politically. When Ted Kennedy is mocking his opponent because he's Mormon he isn't encouraging equality for all, and when Arnold (I dare not spell the current governor of California's last name) is going out and... well I don't even know the extent of his sex scandals... that's not conservative morals. The other thing I don't like about political parties is that they breed places where you can't disagree with the popular opinion, like talk radio where liberals are attacked and the NS forum where conservatives are to be shot on sight (not to bash anyone, but it's true) *prepares to dodge rotten vegetables*.
Vitania
06-05-2004, 07:42
There is no Libertarian party in Australia. The closest thing is the Liberal Democratic Party, which I am an active member of, but it isn't registered.
Incertonia
06-05-2004, 07:44
For local elections, I generally support the Green Party whenever it's reasonable (i.e. it won't mean electing a conservative Republican). I tend to agree more closely with their aims and goals than with any other party, but I also realize that my support can have bad consequences, so in statewide and national elections, I'm a Democrat, because of the major parties, they most represent my positions on the environment, labor laws, corporate regulation, and both civil and social justice. Unfortunately, that means I find myself voting against a candidate more often than I vote for a candidate, but I'm a bigger believer in incremental change than I am in ideological purity.
Colodia
06-05-2004, 08:08
Because I seem to hold liberal views, why wouldn't I support my own/similar views?
Philopolis
06-05-2004, 09:08
I depend on no party
Cromotar
06-05-2004, 09:15
I support (and have positions in) the liberal party of Sweden (which is a LOT different than American liberals, btw).
C-Bass
08-05-2004, 03:54
I support (and have positions in) the liberal party of Sweden (which is a LOT different than American liberals, btw).

can you explain
Panhandlia
08-05-2004, 04:06
I freely say it, I am a registered Republican. My views tend to be more Libertarian than Conservative, on the overall, but I realize that voting Libertarian means a vote for a Democrat (and I have yet to find a Democrat I can agree with more than 25% of the time...though Joe Liebermann did flirt with that number, however, I think he needs to move to the Right.)
C-Bass
08-05-2004, 04:18
I freely say it, I am a registered Republican. My views tend to be more Libertarian than Conservative, on the overall, but I realize that voting Libertarian means a vote for a Democrat (and I have yet to find a Democrat I can agree with more than 25% of the time...though Joe Liebermann did flirt with that number, however, I think he needs to move to the Right.)

lieberman was one of the most liberal candidates
Incertonia
08-05-2004, 04:19
I freely say it, I am a registered Republican. My views tend to be more Libertarian than Conservative, on the overall, but I realize that voting Libertarian means a vote for a Democrat (and I have yet to find a Democrat I can agree with more than 25% of the time...though Joe Liebermann did flirt with that number, however, I think he needs to move to the Right.)

lieberman was one of the most liberal candidatesWhat the hell are you smoking?
Kwangistar
08-05-2004, 04:21
I support my political party (Republicans) because I agree with thier platform the most. Simple as that.
C-Bass
09-05-2004, 06:32
I freely say it, I am a registered Republican. My views tend to be more Libertarian than Conservative, on the overall, but I realize that voting Libertarian means a vote for a Democrat (and I have yet to find a Democrat I can agree with more than 25% of the time...though Joe Liebermann did flirt with that number, however, I think he needs to move to the Right.)

lieberman was one of the most liberal candidatesWhat the hell are you smoking?

uh nothing. very original joke there

you tell me why he wasnt
Selfstate
09-05-2004, 09:33
Libertarian party with which I agree on over 90% of the issues. They are the only ones who really stand for social and economic freedom and dont sell out for votes.
Callisdrun
09-05-2004, 09:51
I am a democrat. I believe that the welfare of the Earth makes national issues, such as economies, petty, in terms of relative importance. I believe in regulation of big business to ensure that the little man, the common man, does not get stomped on. All of us are people, and equals. Though I am a Christian who believes that God loves us all, I am against government favoritism in religious matters, and strongly support the seperation of church and state, and hence I believe that what two adults do in privacy is no one's business but their own. I don't have a problem with the United States having the most powerful military in the world, but with that military comes a responsibility to use it sparingly, and I think that having it should not come before having the best public education system in the world.
Free Soviets
09-05-2004, 18:01
Libertarian party with which I agree on over 90% of the issues. They are the only ones who really stand for social and economic freedom and dont sell out for votes.

that's cause they haven't been elected yet.
Temme
12-05-2004, 04:43
I'm a Canadian NDP (the socialist party) because I agree with them on economic issues. I'm a Christian, so I don't believe them on some of their social stances. I think marijuana should be decriminalized but not legalized, and I try to look after the environment. I can't stand corporations, and I'm not a big fan of small businesses.
Marineris Colonies
12-05-2004, 05:09
Libertarian party with which I agree on over 90% of the issues. They are the only ones who really stand for social and economic freedom and dont sell out for votes.

that's cause they haven't been elected yet.

There is Representative Ron Paul (14th District Texas) (http://www.house.gov/paul). He ran as a Republican (and was fiercely opposed by said Republicans), but he is a life member of the Libertarian Party and also ran as a Libertarian candidate for President.

Plus, there is a whole mess 'o Libertarians in various public offices all over the nation, although mostly at the local level:

http://www.lp.org/organization/officials.php
Free Soviets
12-05-2004, 05:15
that's cause they haven't been elected yet.

There is Representative Ron Paul (14th District Texas) (http://www.house.gov/paul). He ran as a Republican (and was fiercely opposed by said Republicans), but he is a life member of the Libertarian Party and also ran as a Libertarian candidate for President.

Plus, there is a whole mess 'o Libertarians in various public offices all over the nation, although mostly at the local level:

http://www.lp.org/organization/officials.php

what i mean is that they haven't gained significant power yet, so they haven't been given the chance to sell out. if they ever become a major party they will in a heartbeat. electoral politics requires it.
Incertonia
12-05-2004, 05:18
lieberman was one of the most liberal candidatesWhat the hell are you smoking?

uh nothing. very original joke there

you tell me why he wasntQuite simply, he's the kind of guy who not only voted for the War in Iraq, he continues to foster the lie that 9-11 and the Iraq war are linked. Add to it that he's in favor of legislation to limit violence in movies and video games and there's no way he was one of the most liberal candidates for President. Hell, Howard Dean was an avowed centrist and he was more liberal than Lieberman.
Squi
12-05-2004, 06:45
Hmm. Registered Independant (actually No Party Affiliation). Often identified as a Conservative or Republican. Parties most aligned with my ideologies are the Libertarians (either Euro or American, but American is closer than European version). Actual voting record is erratic, mostly Republican or Libertarian for the last 10 years, but I went Democratic for the primary this year and have never not voted for anyone because of the party they're in (although I have voted for some). So how should I respond?
12-05-2004, 07:19
I support a fence. There are quite a few people sitting on it.
Brindisi Dorom
12-05-2004, 07:26
I don't see Socialist on your poll options.
C-Bass
14-05-2004, 03:05
I don't see Socialist on your poll options.

there's no socialist party in my country, the US
Berkylvania
14-05-2004, 03:10
I don't see Socialist on your poll options.

there's no socialist party in my country, the US

Actually, there is a socialist party, C. In fact, there are several:

www.sp-usa.org

www.socialistaction.org

www.socialistequality.org

www.slp.org

www.themilitant.org

Hell, there's even a Nazi party.

www.americannaziparty.com
Imperial Ecclesiarchy
14-05-2004, 03:45
www.politicalcompass.org is a great website. You will be surprised what you find.

I am a moderate republican, because they are closest to my ideology. I can do this because I belive that Capitalism is a better enforcer of order than any government can ever claim to be, and we do not pretend that there are worse problems than the mainainence of intra- and international order. We have retreated too far from what America undeniably is, a democratic REPUBLIC, with roots in the Judeo-Christian beliefs of its founders.
My priorities? Science, the space program, inflation, diplomacy, the lack of a solid moral center, the military, and the implementation of free trade.
Revolutionsz
14-05-2004, 06:09
Im a more like a libertarian...

but Im not a hardcore "fan" of any particular party
Nimzonia
14-05-2004, 06:16
I'm definitely going to vote Lib Dem next time... Charles Kennedy would make a great PM! We could have a prime minister who is actually likeable, instead of Blair, who, face it, is marginally less popular than prostate cancer.
Collaboration
14-05-2004, 06:19
I try to be a realist with my vote; it always seems to come down to the lesser of two evils.

Please don't throw away a vote on Nader just to "make a statement".
Sliders
15-05-2004, 04:24
I try to be a realist with my vote; it always seems to come down to the lesser of two evils.

Please don't throw away a vote on Nader just to "make a statement".
Well can we vote for Nader (or in my case, libertarian candidate, Gary Nolan) because we agree with his ideology and not with that of John Kerry or George Bush?
Cause that's why I'm doing it- not to make a statement, just to make a change!